Ultra AlgeaX

[aeroaustin]

Hi,

I wonder when Ultra AlgeaX will be in stock, I can't find item on site, How much the product cost is?

Can I sign it up for notice for product arrive in stock?

[C. Schuhmacher]

HI Austin

The product is on the way so it will be in the us in the next 3 or 4 days
Greets Claude

[Stoneyscoral]

I have plenty coming, you will be sure to get some.

Pricing is available at www.cherrycorals.com/equipment All items show "out of stock" but by the time my shipment hits my doors the site will be complete and stock added.

This is a sister site to help manage the growing number of quality products that we carry.

Thanks,

Todd

[Stoneyscoral]

Ultra AlgeaX has arrived!!!

I have quite a long list of folks interested and since the Fauna part of the site is not yet complete I will be contacting individuals directly to arrange for shipping. If for some reason I have missed you please contact me again and we will sort it out.

I can ship everyone's AlgeaX orders Monday morning!!!

[aeroaustin]

you got pm'd

[C. Schuhmacher]

Hi

For everyone !

If you want contact us after arrival of Ultra Algea X
We help you with the dosing and treatment

Greets Claude

[cpreefguy]

I PMd you about ordering as well, I have some hair algae that needs to go!

[C. Schuhmacher]

Hi

Can you show me with a picture which kind of hair algea you have ?
Greets claude

[cpreefguy]

Ill try to get a pic of the hair algae tomorrow. Im also trying to get rid of algae like this, it seems to irritate my SPS (reddish in the middle of the pic):
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c66/wantedwrx/DSCN8857.jpg

[C. Schuhmacher]

HI

Can you post me your water parameter and also
do a Po4 test like i write in the manual

Greets Claude

[Stoneyscoral]

1.) Dosing

Dose in the evening after the lights are out, the photosynthestics of the algae will not work during the night so the algae X will better work

10 ml Algae X of 200L Water every 2 days
DO NOT OVERDOSE AND CALCULATE THE LITRES EXACTLY !!!!
Dose every 2 days until the algae has gone but not more than 21 days at a time

Important !

lighting interval max 6 hours/day
Blue light can be on for 10 hours
Make sure you Heavily skim!!
No water change or Dosing of any Trace Elements during treatment
No Ozone , Carbon , Zeolith or Absorber during Treatment

3.) When to use Algae X


Algae X works against every Algae ( not against bacterias !!! )
o Derbesia, and other feather algae
o Bubble and Goldalgeas, Halimeda calcerous algae's
o Caulerpa
o Bryopsis Algea need longer treatment
Dinoflagellates (brown pest )

If Dinoflegalletes comes back after a few days then dose again for some days until all Dinos have gone

It does not work against Cyanobacteria !

4.) Problems

If you dose correctly the product is harmless against all corals and other invertebrates Algea X has been tested for 10 years without negative effect

Redox potential will fall slightly

Sea Urchin and Clams can be harmed after longer use or overdosing

Caulerpas in Mud Filter or Refugium can be harmed also. Remove it.

To much die back of algae can send back the poison which is in the algae so please remove all algae by hand if its possible

The water can become a little bit cloudy

Tridacna clams can also harmed if you treat against dinoflagellates
Corals Polyps may close for a few days


I can't get the equipment site done in time so the AlgeaX products are live and ready to ship at

http://www.cherrycorals.com/home.php?cat=130

[dg13]

Has Ultra Algae X been tested with red dictoya algae? If so, will it get rid of it?

Thanks.

[C. Schuhmacher]

hI

Can you show me a picture of the algea ?
greets Claude

[MSHUR]

Claude,
Do i have to take zeo reactor out and for how long?

mike

[RokleM]

Originally posted by MSHUR
Claude,
Do i have to take zeo reactor out and for how long?

mike

Directions were posted. I'd imagine during the whole treatment.

Originally posted by Stoneyscoral
No Ozone , Carbon , Zeolith or Absorber during Treatment

[C. Schuhmacher]

Hi

And also no waterchange :-)
Greets Claude

[MSHUR]

Hi,

Do i have to do waterchanges after the streatment?

thankx, Mike

[aeroaustin]

can keep filter socks?

No two parts solution allow? for calcium?

How long it take treatment after start to put carbon and waterchange?

[C. Schuhmacher]

Hi

Yes this you can

Two part also you can make the waterchange after the treatment 3 - 5 days later
greets

[dg13]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12946206#post12946206 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by C. Schuhmacher
hI

Can you show me a picture of the algea ?
greets Claude

There are pictures in my gallery. The one that says algae 7 is the best picture to show what it looks like.

Thanks.

[zt444a]

My order of Ultra Algae X should arrive tomorrow. I cannot wait to try this. I hope it works half as well as it seems to.

[dg13]

Still hoping to hear about the dictoya - thanks.

[cpreefguy]

I will get my order on Friday, fast shipping Cherry!

Claude,
I do not use a protein skimmer on my tank. Will this be a problem?

[C. Schuhmacher]

Hi

Yes it will be !!!!

You need a skimmer during treatment
without you can have massiv problems cause the oxygen level will fallen down

Greets Claude

[dg13]

Claude,

I am still waiting to hear from you as to if your product will treat red dictoya algae. You asked for a picture and I posted that I had pictures in my gallery - algae 7 being the best picture. I would like to order some Ultra Algae X, but want to be sure it will take care of red dictoya.

Thanks for your help.

[C. Schuhmacher]

Hi

Ahh now i see it
Yes it will kills them also but it can be take some days longer

Greets Claude

[zt444a]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12957300#post12957300 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by C. Schuhmacher
Hi

Yes it will be !!!!

You need a skimmer during treatment
without you can have massiv problems cause the oxygen level will fallen down

Greets Claude

Claude, should a good skimmer be enough to keep oxygen levels ok? Or would it be prudent to add an air source?

Oh and thanks for the quick ship Todd.... Get mine today...

Howard

[C. Schuhmacher]

Hi

No you need a skimmer
that is the only possibility
to remove the organic pollution which comes from the dead algeas outof the system
Greets

[dg13]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12957703#post12957703 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by C. Schuhmacher
Hi

Ahh now i see it
Yes it will kills them also but it can be take some days longer

Greets Claude

Thank you :)

[zt444a]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12957890#post12957890 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by C. Schuhmacher
Hi

No you need a skimmer
that is the only possibility
to remove the organic pollution which comes from the dead algeas outof the system
Greets

Maybe you misunderstood Claude, or I did. I have a good skimmer. I am also picking up a filter sock or two this afternoon.

I meant should I also use a supplemental oxygen source, to keep oxygen levels up?

Howard

[C. Schuhmacher]

HI

I think i missunderstand you sorry for my english
sometime hard to understand what i write :D

you did not need a separate air if you had a good skimmer :-)

Greets Claude

[zt444a]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12958916#post12958916 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by C. Schuhmacher
HI

I think i missunderstand you sorry for my english
sometime hard to understand what i write :D

you did not need a separate air if you had a good skimmer :-)

Greets Claude

Ok I got it this time Claude. My product is at the house now, and I will be trying it out tonight! Now if you had a magic potion for gorilla crabs...

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[C. Schuhmacher]

Hi

What is Potion for gorilla crab ?

:D

[cpreefguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12957300#post12957300 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by C. Schuhmacher
Hi

Yes it will be !!!!

You need a skimmer during treatment
without you can have massiv problems cause the oxygen level will fallen down

Greets Claude

Hmmm, this will delay my treatment a bit, unless I can find some way to hook my KZ Revolution S up to my 20g nano! :eek2:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c66/wantedwrx/DSCN8946.jpg

[Stoneyscoral]

Well...... the directions do recommend heavy skimming. I think that will do the job!!!!

[C. Schuhmacher]

Hi

Yes it will be enough :-D

Greets

[cpreefguy]

My friend is letting me borrow his Deltec skimmer, so looks like treatment is a "Go" starting Friday :beer:

[RokleM]

If you aren't running a skimmer now, I would highly suggest letting it run for a couple of weeks. It's possible it will take a little time to break in, a little time to "clean up" the current water, etc. Make sure it's operating fine, your levels are staying constant, the cleaner water isn't causing any bleaching of corals, etc.

I'm watching these threads to see the results myself. I'd hate to see multiple things change at the time dosing starts, and have false results or not know which of the changes caused issues (if something occurs).

[cpreefguy]

RokieM,
Thanks for the advice, I just got the MCE300 running and Ill give it a week or two before starting the Algae X treatment

[MSHUR]

Ok guys, I just dosed 40 ml for my 225g.. MY skimmer went CRAZY!!!.. Coral lost PE for 80%... I will keep my fingers crossed..
Its scarry to look at my tank right now . My froggy close up...

mike

[cpreefguy]

Good luck Mike, keep us updated!

[MSHUR]

Thankx man....

Claude, When can i turn my skimmer on ?


mike

[C. Schuhmacher]

Hi

Did you use the treatment without Skimming now ?
Please turn the skimmer
If the skimmer went crazy there must be on overdose
so reduce the dosing - 20 % the next days
The Skimmer must run !
greets

[MSHUR]

HI,

Claude, Soon as i dose Algea-x , my skimmer went "crazy" and i had to turn it off , otherwise it will overfload.
I dosed 40ml for 225g of water, is this overdose?

mike

[zt444a]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12965481#post12965481 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MSHUR
HI,

Claude, Soon as i dose Algea-x , my skimmer went "crazy" and i had to turn it off , otherwise it will overfload.
I dosed 40ml for 225g of water, is this overdose?

mike

Mike did you take into account the live rock and sand in your tank, etc? Dosage is for actual water volume I believe. With my 90, Sump, skimmer and reactor, I figured my dosage at 21ml. My skimmer foamed a bit at first, but it settled down after just fine.

I am anxious to see what it looks like today after I get home. I might reduce my dosage to 20ml for the next treatment.

[MSHUR]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12966099#post12966099 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by zt444a
Mike did you take into account the live rock and sand in your tank, etc? Dosage is for actual water volume I believe. With my 90, Sump, skimmer and reactor, I figured my dosage at 21ml. My skimmer foamed a bit at first, but it settled down after just fine.

I am anxious to see what it looks like today after I get home. I might reduce my dosage to 20ml for the next treatment.
oh yes, i did..
I turn skimmer back on this morning , of cause i got crazy foam but after 30-40 min it settled. luckily i had 5 g og water prepeared.:)

[aeroaustin]

I got the Algea X,

ask you about dose, put solution in the sump or in the disply tank where the powerhead has current the saltwater?

mixed with saltwater then pour it in tank? or straight into tank?

[MSHUR]

I put solution in the sump...

[aeroaustin]

MSHUR,

Thanks, I will use the solution tomorrow.

[MSHUR]

Second round of dosing!

I dosed 30 ml instead of 40ml . Same thing happend with a skimmer...Overfload!!!!
Corals lost PE like two days ago...Water looks a little cloudy..

I just dont get it, how we can run skimmer with this meds..I only be able to restart my skimmer on a second day..

[C. Schuhmacher]

HI

What is PE ?

Greets Claude

[cpreefguy]

PE is Polyp Extension

[C. Schuhmacher]

HI

Ahh ok that is normal like i said it is a medication
Let the skimmer run it is not normal that the skimmer overfload
can you send me a picture of the skimmer ?
greets

[MSHUR]

Ok, I be able to turn my skimmer back on .. The same thing, only next morning i able to turn it on..

Claude, On my next dosing i will take a few pictures .

[MSHUR]

Here is a picture how skimmer working now...
Note: i dose Algea -x last night


http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c173/mshur/skimmerwithalgeax.jpg

[newsalt]

Got my AlgeaX yesterday. I plan on trying it starting tonight.

[RokleM]

MSHUR, based on the buildup only at the very top of the neck, it looks like you're skimming VERY wet. You might want to back it down just slightly. That would likely help.

[MSHUR]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12979304#post12979304 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RokleM
MSHUR, based on the buildup only at the very top of the neck, it looks like you're skimming VERY wet. You might want to back it down just slightly. That would likely help.
thats right, i do skim wet.. I run zeo and preferred wet skimming.

[RokleM]

As do I. However, when you're running a product like this, introduce epoxy, or any other product that causes a reaction like that to a simmer, you have to adjust accordingly. You have two options: No skimmer like you have been, or run slightly more dry temporarily so it still works during the process. I would think slightly more dry would be better than nothing at all.

[MSHUR]

Eric,
I tried that, even with "dry" adjustemnts it still overfload..
I really prefer to start skimming wet in 6-8 hours after dosing..

mike

[NaH2Ofreak]

MSHUR, any signs of the alge dieing off?

[MSHUR]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12979692#post12979692 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NaH2Ofreak
MSHUR, any signs of the alge dieing off?

YES, I NOTICE it after first dosing

[NaH2Ofreak]

Saweet!!!

Dennis

[Stoneyscoral]

MSHUR, what kind of algea are you dealing with. Its probably in this thread by I am feeling to lazy to read it again.

Glad to hear algea is affected on the first dose.

[MSHUR]

Todd,
i have green HA. Been fighting with them for 4 moth now.
I run zeo and my system have very low nutrients ,bu ti still have this crap:(. Hopefully in a coupel of days it will be gone.
i didnt have them a lot, but still was getting on my nerve:)

mike

[C. Schuhmacher]

HI

Which rocks you use ?
Greets Claude

[MSHUR]

Hi,
I have Marshall island LR. It was "cooked" for 3 month before i put it in my display tank..


mike

[C. Schuhmacher]

what means cooked ?

Greets Claude

[MSHUR]

Sorry...:)
I had my rock placed in the tub with skimmer only for 3 month

m

[aeroaustin]

Claude, or anyone?

can i feed normal scehdule while use algea X or suspension feeding for one day then

day one -- dose algae X then no feeding food?

next day -- no dose but feeding food?

or can do both and regular schedule?

[C. Schuhmacher]

HI

Yes you can feed normal

Why you cooked your live rock so long time ??
It make absolute no sense to work with the rocks on that way
Greets Claude

[aeroaustin]

Claude,

Thanks

[newsalt]

I did my first dosing of Ultra AlgeaX last night. I used 25ml on 130g net water volume. The skimmer did not overflow. What does the algea look like when it's dying off?

[MSHUR]

Claude,
i did that to make sure all algea die of and my rock is clean. It was last year anyways..:)

[newsalt]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12937275#post12937275 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Stoneyscoral
To much die back of algae can send back the poison which is in the algae so please remove all algae by hand if its possible
http://www.cherrycorals.com/home.php?cat=130

Can I siphon out dying algea? If I can, I would have to replace the water that gets siphoned out. That not really a water change, so can I do that?

[cpreefguy]

MSHUR,
Any updates for us?

[MSHUR]

well,
after 4 times of dosing i still have some algea left and i dont see any die off's either..
My skimmer still overflow any time i dose algea-x.i think , i will discontinue dosing and put back my zeoreactor


mike

[aeroaustin]

Claude mention that take time and keep dosage for 3 weeks, that is pretty long. Maybe try forother two or three dosage and see what is result..

same as me tonight will be my third dosage and some area has improved but other area has stubborn. I would keep trying until three weeks and see what is result..

[MSHUR]

i dont wanna run my tank without zeo reactor for 3 weeks.. I aldea notice my po4 climing up a bit

[RokleM]

That's not a bad sign MSHUR. The algae could be suffering, not uptaking po4 as rapidly, in turn causing the increase. I wouldn't necessarily assume it's due to your ZEO not being online. Personally I would continue as you're halfway there. The po4 is very easily removed once the treatment is complete via numerous means.

[MSHUR]

i know what you mean, but striping PO4 from the water might lead to basal TN

[C. Schuhmacher]

Hi Mike

To be impatient with a marine tank is not possible
you need time for the results

It is also better that the stuff need time cause the risk to kill all algeas at the same time will be to strong if the product is to strong

Algea X is like a medicine and a tank will shw reaction
I think in your case it will be need longer cause your skimmer overflow after dosing.

I see some tanks which didnt need a treatment with Algea X
only a litte bit more time with a good system like ULTRALITH

Greets Claude

[MSHUR]

Hi Claude,

I am very patient..:) My only problem here, is i dont want to run my tank without zeo reactor for long time... I notice Po4 is going up...

mike

[C. Schuhmacher]

HI

Let is raise a little bit up or stopped the dosing and work with zeolith
both is not possible

Greets claude

[newsalt]

Can you use Zeo Coral Snow while using AlgeaX?

[MSHUR]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13018525#post13018525 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by newsalt
Can you use Zeo Coral Snow while using AlgeaX?

I dont think so..

[newsalt]

Put in my 4th dose tonight. Algea is very "stringy" and has some bubbles. It is siphoning out very easy. However, some of it close to the rock is not siphoning off. While I'm doding, can I go in with a toothbrush and scrub the the algea off close to the rock?

[MSHUR]

Thats what i did..works good too:) Unfortunately there is some spots that i cant reach even with a toothbrush..

[newsalt]

I would probably put a sock on my overflow pipe into the sump to pick up any floating junk. Do you think it would be ok to run a Vortex DE filter after scrubbing to polish the tank?

MSHUR, do you have any pictures of your tank pre-AlgeaX and now?

[MSHUR]

I just change filter sock everytime i scrubb some algea. no, i didnt take any pics..

[DLANDINO]

Does this product also kill your coveted coralline?

[C. Schuhmacher]

Hi

After long dosings also the coralline algeas will die but this need much more dosings then a normal dosing.

Greets Claude

[aeroaustin]

Claude,

I wonder if Ultra algeaX can working on Culpera? grape and Blade? I noticed the some H.A has some died-off, that is good sign, I has increase dosage to 18 ml from 15 ml

but culpera has thrive grow fast, I wonder about this.

Maybe I need to pull some culerpa.

Also I was shocked to see bubble algae behind the rock and size is about 50 mm diameter, that is huge.. I will pull some big bubble algae from back of the tank.

[C. Schuhmacher]

Hi

We call Caulerpa higher algeas and they need longer to die
after long enough dosing they will died also
Grees Claude

[aeroaustin]

Thanks

I will keep that dosage, add one more week or two week?

[aeroaustin]

yesterday I miss dosage of ultra algae X, will effect if I miss dosage? so tonight I can dose? to make it up for miss yesterday?

[C. Schuhmacher]

HI

Why you miss one dosing ?
The dosing is every 2 days !

Greets Claude

[aeroaustin]

i went to emergency room for painful..

[C. Schuhmacher]

Hi

No i mean that i read you dose every day not every 2 days

If you miss one it is not a problem you start when you´re back again every 2 days Greets Claude

[aeroaustin]

Ok fine,

[cpreefguy]

What's the latest fellas?

[fatboyjoe]

I'm on my 7th dose, I dosed every 2 days, skimmer overflowed for about 24 hours each time. I let it overflow back into my sump for the first day then back into my overflow container the next day. I also have been running no lights on dosing day and like 4 hours on day two. I had light hair algea on about half my rocks and overflow. 90% of the algea has turned light green and looks like it's dying. It brushes off easy. I do have some stubborn spots that are still healthy looking. there in a hard to reach spot and I can't get to it. so far all corals look good.cheato has been in a 5 gal. bucket for 2 weeks and it also looks good. man, I hope this stuff works.

[fatboyjoe]

things look really bad today. my copperband butterfly was laying on it's side and breathing very heavy. I happed to have 30 gal. of water ready for a water change after the 21 day treatment which was due this weekend. I'm stopping the treatment 2 doses early. i did a water change and I'm running a couple of air stones in the sump. I ran some tests 4 hours after the water change.
ph-80
ammonia- 0
nitrate- 0
phosphate- less than .5 but not 0
calcium-440
mag- 1280
kh-8
I'm going to add some kent supper buffer to get ph and kh up a little.
my copperband still looks really bad, I don't think it's going to make it. I can't see any other reason for the sudden problem than using the algea-x.

[C. Schuhmacher]

HI

I answered you in the Fauna Marin Bord about this
greets Claude

[newsalt]

I ran out of AlgeaX. I dosed 11 times and the HA is about 95% better. I still have some stubborn spots but I'm going to stop for a while. One thing I noticed is that I'm getting "strings" of what looks like cyano. It's literaly strand coming off areas of the glass and coral branches. What could cause that? Also my tank has a very cloudy look to it. It's not crystal at all. What up with that?

[C. Schuhmacher]

HI

This will be the nutrition of the dead algeas
2 days after you stopped dosing add some carbon and
make the first 10 % water change
Control your Po4 level and add some adsorber like Powerphos or Ultraphos.
Ultraphos would be better cause it takes the yellow color out of the water and make your water crystal clear

Greets Claude

[Sullyman]

Claude, you can't use a calcium reactor for 21 days? Kalk drip is ok or not?
What effect will the medication have on my mangroves?

[C. Schuhmacher]

HI

Now i find the last post

Please remove the mangroves also from the system
you can put them during the treatment in a plastic container

greets claude