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feefer2
07/02/2008, 09:36 AM
Hello, can any body tell me if they tryed this and what they think of it ,they clam less water changes and better water and less chemicals .thanks http://www.ecoaqualizer.com/aquarium-x.htm

Skeptic_07
07/02/2008, 09:46 AM
its a magnet. completely useless and unfounded claims made there. read:
http://www.rexgrigg.com/debunked.htm

Reefugee
07/02/2008, 09:53 AM
Sounds like a bunch of BS to me. It appears that they are using a bunch of "scientific" terminology to try to impress potential buys. My favorite statement was:

" Water simply flows through the ECO-AqualizerTM unit, where the internal reaction chamber ionizes the passing water molecules." Interesting, I thought water molecules were already ionized (H+ and OH-).

Also - there's a lot of chemistry terminology that is incorrectly used. "Reactivity is the molecular interactions between water molecules." Some of the physics doesn't make sense to me either. Sounds like they must have developed a cold fusion technology to power this time.

The claim seems to be too good to be true. But I could be wrong.

Michael
07/02/2008, 09:58 AM
load of garbage, ridiculous statement, cant see how it will work, it may have some benefits, but water changes to replenish element levels are going to be needed in reefing, those statements just seem like a load of crap to me

Freed
07/02/2008, 10:00 AM
They DON'T work. It's a section of PVC with some magnets taped to it with electical tape. TOTAL SCAM. DO NOT BUY INTO IT.

Hop
07/02/2008, 10:15 AM
:lol: We were doing so well and now this is popping up again a couple times a week:lol:

Yes, this item is a scam and how they are still selling these things, I have no idea. Someone really should have filed a claim with the BBB or law suit against them by now.

Skeptic_07
07/02/2008, 10:31 AM
The Earth's Magnetic Field and the Suns Radiating Wavelengths are natural forces which contribute to the missing links in achieving aquarium perfection.

right.. so the problem is i dont have GRAVITY in my tank? :rolleyes:
WHO WOULDVE THOUGHT??!?! :lol:

Reefugee
07/02/2008, 10:31 AM
Hey - there are people STUPID enough to purchase magnetic bracelet.

twoodall
07/02/2008, 10:43 AM
In the words of John Mayer's song "Gravity" .... Gravity, stay away from me.... Gravity.... keeps bringing me down...

xJake
07/02/2008, 10:52 AM
http://www.reefs.org/library/testing/ecoaqualizer

AZDesertRat
07/02/2008, 10:54 AM
Ya, and it also gives your car better fuel mileage, reduces the chlorine usage in your swimming pool and makes your arthritis go away! Right.....

abulgin
07/02/2008, 11:14 AM
What is "NASA’s space age far infrared radiation" and how do tape, pvc, magnets and water creat that?

Freed
07/02/2008, 11:17 AM
I feel as though my oxygen level in my bloodstream is so much higher from just seeing the results in the link above!! WOW, this is just amazing!!!!

Bruno3047
07/02/2008, 02:35 PM
Alright, everyone. Go ahead and laugh.

But one day....

What???

seapug
07/02/2008, 02:41 PM
my standard response every time this piece of junk gets brought up:

http://www.costonstock.com/_gallery/_WM/0015-0603-2508-5928_WM.jpg

MinibowMatt
07/02/2008, 02:53 PM
LOL!

tanker
07/02/2008, 02:53 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12865543#post12865543 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by abulgin
What is "NASA’s space age far infrared radiation" and how do tape, pvc, magnets and water creat that?

We would need a scientist to answer that.

Hello...Any on Reef Central??

sandsurfsd
07/02/2008, 02:54 PM
Where do i sign up to buy one

Bruno3047
07/02/2008, 02:54 PM
Seriously.

I wonder what the company's annual revenue from eco-aqualizer sales is.

Anyone want to venture a guess?

scrmbld33
07/02/2008, 02:57 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12867248#post12867248 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Bruno3047
Seriously.

I wonder what the company's annual revenue from eco-aqualizer sales is.

Anyone want to venture a guess?



7 million, guessing they sell 100000 units at 70$,

AZDesertRat
07/02/2008, 02:58 PM
Probably quite a profit. I think most of the people who buy it are too embarassed to return it for a full refund.

stuccodude
07/02/2008, 03:09 PM
im busted, i bought one cause my LFS was running one and i was modeling my tank after his display tank, so coincidense he sells them but i will say from day 1 i never had a algea bloom of any sort ever but i run a uv too. i even started with tap/well water (not knowing) and had phosfates for almost a year. could be luck or the uv or maybe that eco thing, who knows.

ReefingMadness
07/02/2008, 04:32 PM
My tank is looking better and I just thought of buying one. Imagine when I get it in the tank. LOL

Freed
07/02/2008, 04:40 PM
Don't they use these on the open reef in Australia?

sabbath
07/02/2008, 04:51 PM
I have submersible pumps in my system. So I must have the magnet thing covered.
















:lol: :lol: :lol:

chatyak
07/02/2008, 05:13 PM
I hear they include a manual about how to not to cry upon using the product seeing as how you just got owned.

abulgin
07/02/2008, 05:16 PM
We can all joke because we know better, but the sad thing is that this $hit happens all the time in this hobby. Unscrupulous "inventors" make tons of money off of unsuspecting hobbyists by selling complete junk. Becuase Eco5000 isn't robbing widows and orphans or charging 37 percent interest, however, the will likely continue to sell useless crap without any consequences. They do sell a rotating fish tank, however.

MinnFish
07/02/2008, 09:50 PM
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/164904images.jpg

sentencedme
07/02/2008, 10:22 PM
Hey guys,
Buy my crap for $20 a pound. It purifies the magnetic shield of the spectrum where it ionizes my testicular functionality. Great for fresh and Saltwater. This dong is the best in town... I promise.......

lol

Flipper62
07/02/2008, 10:59 PM
Hey!!!!


LETS ALL SAY IT TOGETHER...............PET ROCK....scammm
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm238/flipper62_photos/petrock.jpg

the whelk
07/02/2008, 11:23 PM
sounds like bs

liquidfunk
07/09/2008, 06:12 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12867331#post12867331 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by stuccodude
im busted, i bought one cause my LFS was running one and i was modeling my tank after his display tank, so coincidense he sells them but i will say from day 1 i never had a algea bloom of any sort ever but i run a uv too. i even started with tap/well water (not knowing) and had phosfates for almost a year. could be luck or the uv or maybe that eco thing, who knows.

You need a new LFS.

ser_renely
07/09/2008, 06:38 PM
laundry rock?

Saltz Creep
07/09/2008, 07:28 PM
They don't work for aquariums but if you put them against your temples they'll get rid of the migraine you developed from getting ripped off.

tony45power
07/09/2008, 08:02 PM
i bought one about 8 months ago and never changed my water. my levels are good 0 phosphates no ammonia 0 nitrates.

MinnFish
07/09/2008, 10:26 PM
What about trace elements? No water changes, no replenishing trace elements without dosings?

[WDT]TardFarmer
07/10/2008, 09:19 AM
I acquired one of these off of a 150 gallon setup that was given to me by a guy who did not realize how much work a saltwater setup is. You know the type, A guy with lots of $$$ and thinks salt is cool so he will go and buy a bunch of fish like a big volitans some clowns an anemone a big eel and a grouper and throw them in a tank after a week of cycling. Then wonders why his clowns have all disappeared the anemone is dead, the grouper is swimming on it's side, the eel was found on the floor looking like jerky and somehow the volitans is still kicking.

Anywhoo he bought one of the ecolizer things It apparently did not do what it was supposed to since there was algae everywhere

Skeptic_07
07/10/2008, 09:22 AM
magnets do not clean the water.. its just isnt possible.

tush
07/10/2008, 02:59 PM
if you want to see how gullible people can be when things are advertized by scare tactics - google water purification magnetic.
... its scary....i worked in the industry (water purification) and saw some of these sales tactics used.
there is no controlled study that has been done that magnets do anything to water quality - unless you drop a bucketfull of lead shavings into it!
:)

tony45power
07/13/2008, 08:07 PM
i was kidding with my post lol, i amm suprised no one is busting my chops! best this i added to clean my water was my skimmer and refugium!

RicksReefs
07/13/2008, 08:25 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12870739#post12870739 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Flipper62
Hey!!!!


LETS ALL SAY IT TOGETHER...............PET ROCK....scammm


the pet rock wasn't a scam. maybe a 70's inside joke, but we knew all it was, was a rock. :smokin:

Skeptic_07
07/14/2008, 09:47 AM
tony i was about to bust on you but i held my tongue and just posted something generic. I thought you were serious!!! I hate busting on ppl on the internets many ppl get PO'd :D

twoodall
07/14/2008, 09:04 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12941493#post12941493 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RicksReefs
the pet rock wasn't a scam. maybe a 70's inside joke, but we knew all it was, was a rock. :smokin:

I have sex stones listed in my ebay store. any takers?

what? no one wants my f(bip)ing rocks?

:lol:

RicksReefs
07/14/2008, 09:08 PM
expect a law suit from a little chinese guy named ben wa...

Jnodal
07/19/2008, 06:05 AM
Call me naive but I would actually like to hear from anyone that has used the eco-aqualizer, there seems to be nothing but remarks from skeptics but no reviews from individuals that has tried the product, can anyone help?????

Capt_Cully
07/19/2008, 07:55 AM
Honestly, I know several people that keep LPS and softie reef tanks and rarely do water changes. I have seen the tanks with my own eyes. One of them is the sickest seahorse and pipefish display I've ever seen. Complete with crazy aussie acans. the reef keeper prefers the nutrient rich environment and there is little issue with running lower Ca and Mag.

The other guy has a really nice in-wall 65 G. He used to test all the time and do waterchanges religiously and just kinda slacked off. He actually made it a year without a waterchange. He just let the corals kinda do their own natural selection. He has some HUGE beautiful orange yummas, beautiful euphillia species, and various other corals (it's been about 6 months since I've seen it).

Anyway, my point is, that thing may do nothing and the tank could pull thru. Can't help you with any actual product review, but IMO you might have just as good luck by rubbing peanut butter on the side panes of the tank's glass than you would using that thing.

Freed
07/19/2008, 08:00 AM
I don't do water changes religiously in my 180 and I can guarantee you without a doubt that my nitrates are 0, my ammonia is 0 etc. If I used one of these PVC pipes with magnets electrical taped to it I can guarantee you my params would be the same.

alextheromanian
07/19/2008, 08:12 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12864897#post12864897 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by feefer2
Hello, can any body tell me if they tryed this and what they think of it ,they clam less water changes and better water and less chemicals .thanks http://www.ecoaqualizer.com/aquarium-x.htm



69 dollars for a a few inches of pvc...its easyer for you to make your own and youll prolly end up paying 5$

its the same thing made by the same kinds of people who make those scam better gas mileage gadgets.

im going in the medical field and i must tell you even there there are a few who will sell you a wrist bracelet with a magnet on it and tell you it will cure almost any problem you have

on cars they say it realignes the metals in gas to make the gas burn cleaner and better and give you better gas mileage.

its a scam...and its got alot of misused chemestry and physics terms thrown around to impress you. they arent even used corectly.


also water does not stay in a cylinder the way they show it...its more of a net with layers than anyting

Batfly
07/19/2008, 03:53 PM
"Reactivity is the molecular interactions between water molecules." LOL :lol: i thought molecular interactions between water molecules was physics and chemistry. They say "This not only neutralizes impurities but triggers the Reactivity of water." It triggers physics and chemistry in the water. You should feel more jipped that your water comes out of your pipes lacking the laws of physics!

:mixed:

nmbeg
07/20/2008, 01:01 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12978952#post12978952 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Capt_Cully
you might have just as good luck by rubbing peanut butter on the side panes of the tank's glass than you would using that thing.
mmmmm.... peanut butter...........

alextheromanian
07/20/2008, 01:21 AM
seriously before this 5 dollar contraption priced at 70$ came out water lacked chemistry and physics. how ever did anyone get by before this came along?

answer is ...JUST FINE...

its like those 400$ better gas mileage contraptions that you put on your car and void the warranty/ break off and shoot pieces into your engine totaling it...

be VERY weary of this MAGNET stuff...if you look it up they claim it does anything from healing cancer to gas mileage to fish health.



if you REALLY want to see how this works FOR FREE!

point your owehead at your magnet cleaner and let me know if you notice a difference.

che25
07/20/2008, 09:35 AM
It is BS like this that keeps me a skeptic (in all things).

Que Viva James Randi!

For more info on skepticism, go to: http://www.theness.com/home.asp

che25
07/20/2008, 09:58 AM
If you are of the mind to indulge in some more BS pseudo-scientific gadgets, check this one out, and get your "Bio-Field" in check:

http://www.q-linkproducts.com/

Geez, if Madonna wears one, it's got to be true! That'll be $500 please!