HELP!!!! Used aqurium which one!!!!! newbie

[oldsatly]

howdy yall, after wanting to start a sw aqurium for a long time and coming here and seing all the crazy beautiful corrorl and mushrooms make me want to creat my own. i already have a fresh water tank goin. is this a good deal for a tank.
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/for/747291415.html

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/hsh/747927378.html

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/for/748189742.html this one says best off er what would be a good offer for it.

or does any body on here have one theyed like to sell. thx for all your help .
this site looks great.

[oldsatly]

this one looks good but id have to scrape the blue of the bak.
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/for/753481721.html

[firemancorbin]

RU planning a reef tank or just fish?

Buddy.

[oldsatly]

defently a reef tank fo sure, im new to this pardon the dumb questions do u have to choose which type of reef you want . i really want some of those mushrooms plants.

[kau_cinta_ku]

different corals require diffrent lighting. shrooms though don't require much.

from what I seen in those ads I suggest just getting the tank and getting your own equipment. the saltwater one IMO had crap for useable stuff.

[welcome]

[oldsatly]

thasts what i was kinda thinkin but which tank. lol.

[oldsatly]

the last one i posted there with the blue.... yea im want to build my stand as well, since carpentry is in my blood. im giddy as a school girlabout this, so much knollege on this site.

[oldsatly]

can any yall recomed good coarals to buy also for beginer, but from lookin around the site somthing that can be traded in the future.

[kau_cinta_ku]

if you planning on building the stand and such yourself then I wouldn't get any of those. you can just buy a brand new 75 gal. tank only for those prices.

as for good beginner corals I suggest green star polyps, shrooms, kenya tree's, leathers, zoas, ect.

[FBNitro]

If you want to build your own stand, don't buy a used tank. Just get a new one IMO.

You might want to try here:
http://www.canreef.com/ If you insist on a used tank. This is where the Vancouver Reef Network guys hang out.

[oldsatly]

o n what would be a good offer for that one with the blue on the back with out any of the equipment with it. kau.inta.uk.
or any yall see anything good that i missed. all your help is geatly appracheated people.
its the whole vancouer seartch for aquirems. http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/search/for?query=aquarium&minAsk=min&maxAsk=max

[Sk8r]

There is about a month of setup involved: don't buy any livestock until your tank is set up and cycled. That means live rock, sand, salt water, and enough running time for the tank's bacteria to grow and start processing. Takes from 1-4 weeks depending on various things, mostly quantity and quality of the live rock. Mushrooms and the softies (type of coral) you want are easy keepers with medium-grade lighting, prolific and good learning curve. They ARE animals, not plants, and have the habit of getting up and moving if discontent, so don't think of it as "planting" a tank. They don't have a mind, but they are stubborn and persistent.

[oldsatly]

y r u saying to buy a new tank rnt they a lill more expensive what are the advantages . y r u staying dont buy a used one if i want to build a stand. . n sorry wut does this IMO mean new to this enternt slang. thx for the link ill be lookin at that.

[oldsatly]

so when ur starting new tank you just let the wanter sit with some live rocks sand and salt for 1. 4 weeks. yea i have no problems with that, as with anything the more time n enegy u put into it the better ital be.

[firemancorbin]

There is no need to buy a new tank you can find great deals on tanks all the time. i would recommend ya look around don't just jump on the first tank ya find. I also would recommend a reef ready setup!


Buddy.

[firemancorbin]

just get your water tested at your LFS. or you can test it yourself.

[firemancorbin]

Just to give ya an Idea on used tanks I purchased my current tank it is a 150 oceanic RR with Stand and Canopy for $500.

[Sk8r]

Do be careful that whatever tank you buy---NOBody has ever used copper or medications in it---particularly copper. Seawater aggressively dissolves metals, and it becomes a poison lethal to invertebrates, corals, etc--- continuing to leach out of the tank's seams into the new salt water. This is one reason either to buy a salt rig that has only been used for saltwater, or a new tank, unless you really think you can trust the memory of the guy you're buying from.

[kau_cinta_ku]

I would offer him 75.00 for the tank. as your not gonna use the stand anyway it is a waste of money to pay extra for it. that is why we say just buy a new tank as they are not that expensive. the tank is gonna be the cheap part of this hobby. also you can look for areef ready tank. (a tank that has built in overflow)

IMO= in my opinion

after you get the LR and sand let the tank sit for 1-6 weeks to cycle.

[oldsatly]

thx for all the info huge help yall.,
so do u guys think that one with the blue back ground would be good. ill wont rush out though ill keep my eyes open for a while.

[firemancorbin]

Sure it would work!

[oldsatly]

u guys think this is a good deal... http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=43340

[firemancorbin]

What all does it come with? lights? Stand? Sump?etc???


Buddy.

[kau_cinta_ku]

wow around here you can buy a new one for cheaper than that.

[oldsatly]

or if anybody sees any good deals on here , all yall keen eyes n knolege would help.

[oldsatly]

dsnt sound like it comes with anything. yea a lil pricy me thinks.

[firemancorbin]

Look at some setups and see what you like the best so you can plan for something similar. We looked for several weeks before we bought our 1st tank and grew from there!


Buddy.

[FBNitro]

There's a reef swap meet out in Ladner in September if you can wait that long (maybe not for the tank, but for lights, skimmer etc it might be worth waiting to see what people bring)... preliminary info is on the canreef board in the Lower Mainland section.

[oldsatly]

i want somthing thats really white so colores pop out from all the coarl n fish. with like a ridge runing down the center, ill have no problem desigin it.lol i love makin up fish tanks. only done fresh water so far. yea mabey ill stop buy the fish store n chek out the new tanks.

[oceanparadise1]

I would just buy a 75 reef ready. Wait for a good deal, i baught mine of craigs list for 65 bucks! And also i know people say to sit and wait, but i have had about 10 saltwater tanks and i have started each and every one off with a clown fish or damsel, and never lost one. Gives you something to look at. Just make sure you dont go cheap on lights!!!!

[oldsatly]

yea that way better then like 200 bucks fo that ugly blue backgroud on. thx for the info fbnitro,
so wuts the deal with these sumps i dont get it is it where all the conectins for the emqupment go when they get put into the watter. whats a sump for.

[oceanparadise1]

A sump adds water to your system. A 75gallon tank plus lets say a 40 gallon breeder for a sump, gives you a total of 115 gallons. The more water the more room for a mistake. Also i sump lets you place your skimmer,heater,fuge and anyother equipment in it so its out of site! Just helps things look better. I would paint the back of any tank you get black. Makes it so you dont see any cords and algea doesnt show up as well.

[oldsatly]

so u use the sump for breeding and placing all the gear in, y would u need to add water to the tank.... for when the levals drop because of evapration n to have to water on hand. is that right.

[oceanparadise1]

No, the water in the 40 gallon tank(you dont actually breed anything in it, its just the name of the type of tank) you place a pump in the sump that circulates water from the main display tank back to the sump, then from the sump to the display. This also cause surface skimming from the over from in the main tank.

[firemancorbin]

YES THAT IS RIGHT, ALSO FOR WATER CHANGES I HAVE A DRAIN SETUP SO I CAN DO WATER CHANGES.

[firemancorbin]

NO ON THE BREEDING PART SORRY MISSED THAT. OPPS!!!

[oceanparadise1]

Lol that was my mistake i forget hes a newbie :) i should have just said a 40 gallon tank! And yes it also makes water changes easy, esp if you get an auto top off unit and place a bucket or RO water next to it, you wont ever have to top it off, just do the water changes. Also i think you should do a lot more research on sumps and reef ready tanks before you buy anything at all.

[firemancorbin]

Totally agree with oceanparadise1. on learning about the hobby a little before ya get to involved!!!!

[oceanparadise1]

The biggest mistake you can make is rushing into a set up. Take your time ready about the difference in set ups. For a starter tank, i would not go smaller then a 75. The bigger the tank, the more room for error. Also do ALOT of research, enough untill you dont have questions anymore(which will never happen lol). Just do enough so you know about the different set ups and actually know what a sump is and how to set one up.

[oldsatly]

lol yea knolege is power eh. thx for all the info n help guys. im going to pass out now good night yall. any yall see any good tanks in vancouver let me know.
ez yall.

[kau_cinta_ku]

if you want colors to pop in the corals and fish I suggest going with a dark colored background. black is my preffrence

[oceanparadise1]

Yes black is nice, also make sure you get metal halides or T5HO with SLRS

[FBNitro]

There's a 75 gallon (I assume not reef-ready) on BuySell for $60.

http://www.buysell.com/root/detail/BC/Aquariums_Fish/986/68874437/75_GALLON_18_x4_60_obo.aspx

[oldsatly]

sweet nitro , ill give his a shout this mronin, n ask if hes used any medication in it or any coppers in it. cheers.

[nanoreef19]

i have a 55 with oak trim and new matching oak stand that was used for fw for sale.

[oldsatly]

how much u want for her, im proably gunna go with somthing bigger though like 75 gal or bigger like buddi said in a perviouse post about it being more forgiving, n the shippin might be a lill long distants eh. lol. thx fo tha offer

[oceanparadise1]

Salty, DONT go smaller then 75 for your first tank! Also i would MAKE SURE, it is reef ready. It will cost a little more for the set up but its worth it in the long and short run!

[oldsatly]

so what entails a reef ready, ive been divin in head first into the boards.
but what entails a reef ready aaqurium. like the 40g part segerated by a peice of glass from the rest of the tank or it haings of in the back like in that tank with the blue back gound. n whats with all the different sized peiced of glass in the sumps, thx

[oldsatly]

does any body know good website to order reef ready tanks.. n any other fourms i should be dipin into or is this the placce. i like it here. ill defenty post up my sw as i get here to gether here.

[oceanparadise1]

Dont buy one from a site. Go to a store. Cheaper, no shipping. A reef ready tank has a built in over flow that brings water down to the sump. THen in the sump you have a pump to bring water back to the tank. THe different pieces of glass in the sump make up the different chambers of the sump. The return chamber, the inlet where you use 3 pieces of glass as a bubble defuser, a refugium and a spot for you heater, and skimmer and anything else.

[oldsatly]

thx fo the info ocean!. so in the tank is the over flow slighty lowet that the height of the tanks so that it( overflowes) into it. n is a pump used to get the h20 from the over flow to the sump or is that y they talk about drillin tanks.

or do they drill tanks to insurt rods to hold coral up. im not really not sure on the last one lol.
n what does a new 75 gal sw ready tank run. do they coome with sumps or is it spereat

[oceanparadise1]

Sump just buy a 20 long. As far as the over flow, yes its lower and it gravity feeds the water to the sump.

[oldsatly]

eh fernadro, i just got a call back from that buy n cell numba tha lady said it sold in like 5 min lol. thx fo the link any way bro

[oceanparadise1]

Oldsalty, i think you should proof read you post, before you hit submit reply. Reading them is giving me a headach lol.

[oldsatly]

lol i know im a ramambler. thx for bering with me

could u explay to me though why u drill tanks.

[oceanparadise1]

Well if you buy a reef ready one, it will come pre-drilled. That is so the water can go from the sump to the tank and back to the tank.

[FBNitro]

Well if you want to go cheap on the tank...

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/hsh/760883893.html

48 or 72 bowfront, I can't tell which by the photo (call and ask for dimensions then look it up if you're interested). Ad says $25