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Aj Flip
08/24/2008, 11:24 PM
after head loss its around 800gph with 3 exits into the tank

should i turn it down a bit and get more powerheads?

Purple Haze
08/24/2008, 11:27 PM
Depends on how big your drain(s) are.

Aj Flip
08/24/2008, 11:29 PM
drain is 1.5"
i use 2 1" u-tubes on the overflow box

shag26272
08/24/2008, 11:32 PM
sounds like a flood waiting to happen, I would go with a smaller pump. ive never used an overflow box before but I would think you wouldnt want to try to push it to its limits.

Aj Flip
08/24/2008, 11:45 PM
so ill just reduce flow with the ball valve?

Purple Haze
08/25/2008, 12:04 AM
No. Either redirect the excess flow back into the sump via a tee or move to a smaller pump. Reducing the flow with a ball valve will shorten pump life.

shag26272
08/25/2008, 12:05 AM
I doubt it will shorten the pump life, it will actually use less electricity.

Aj Flip
08/25/2008, 12:07 AM
just curious, why is it bad to have too much flow through the sump

Ness
08/25/2008, 12:33 AM
Loop in a chiller or maybe even a barrel for water changes. You could even T in your carbon/phosphate reactors, or an external skimmer to use up some of the excess gph.

flyyyguy
08/25/2008, 01:09 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13221611#post13221611 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Purple Haze
No. Either redirect the excess flow back into the sump via a tee or move to a smaller pump. Reducing the flow with a ball valve will shorten pump life.

false

it is no different than running more pipe or a higher lift creating more head.

depending on the pump, it will use less electricity and be less wear and tear on the pump to scale it back with a ball valve


use a ball valve on the output side. as long as you arent dead heading it, it will be fine and what you should do

besides...there is no point in moving any mroe water through your sump than you skimmer can process. water is surface skimmed out of the tank to be skimmed....this surface skimmed water is the dirties water in the tank.....dont intentionally set up yoru system to just recirculate it it without being skimmed....

skimming 100% of this waer is unrealistic without a immense amount of effort, but roughly match flows and you are at least making the effort

as said, T'ing off the return to power a small chiller or cansiter filter for gfo or carbon is a good idea as well if you use either. it can eliminate a pump or two

crvz
08/25/2008, 06:57 AM
agreed with Fly Guy, and have experienced the same thing by measuring electrical load on pumps. if you think about it, magnet driven pumps have free spinning impellers... the more you slow it down the less wear you'll have on the moving parts. the housing has no moving parts, so increasing the "load" due to head doesnt matter at all.