Bailing light for noobs !

[Stenopus]

Hi there,

I am think about bailing light method instead to install calcium reactor.

Let's say that i have

kH 8
pH 8.1
Magnesium 1200
Calcium 390

So, please explain to us noobs like me what bailing light will build up ( just calcium and magnesium together with pH and kH or just calcium or just magnesium)?

What will be the right way to correct values to be:

Magnesium 1350
Calcium 430
pH 8.32
kH 10

thank you in advance.

[C. Schuhmacher]

Hi Stenopus

Which salinty you will have in your tank?
Greets claude

[Stenopus]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13221955#post13221955 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by C. Schuhmacher
Hi Stenopus

Which salinty you will have in your tank?
Greets claude

Hello Mr. Schuhmacher,

1.026 is salinity.

kind regards,
Stenopus

[C. Schuhmacher]

Hi

This is the specific gravity
could you give me the salinity
i am wondering why you want to make the parameters so high
Greets

[Stenopus]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13222264#post13222264 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by C. Schuhmacher
Hi

This is the specific gravity
could you give me the salinity
i am wondering why you want to make the parameters so high
Greets


I think that is obvius if specific gravity is 1.026 , than salinity is 35ppm, right ?

Anyhow, i like to have higher values.

kind regards,
Stenopus

[Stenopus]

No one to reply ?


:( :( :( :(

[C. Schuhmacher]

Hi

Sure but sometimes i must work :-D

Try to get down to 33 Salinity it is more stabil and better to control
then a to high value
The parameters can be not correct and the most measurement showed - 1 salinity to less
Greets claude

[Stenopus]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13229586#post13229586 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by C. Schuhmacher
Hi

Sure but sometimes i must work :-D

Try to get down to 33 Salinity it is more stabil and better to control
then a to high value
The parameters can be not correct and the most measurement showed - 1 salinity to less
Greets claude

Claude , I don't get it at all ! Can you explain it a little bit more.

So If I am going to start to use a bailing light methode I can't correct values for Magnesium and Calcium ? Why I have to put down salinity to 33 ? What is than a purpose of bailing light methode ?
I tought that 35ppm = 1026 is a default ratio.

As I understand you it is that you want from me to lower salinity because than I can correct values with bailing light methode ?

kind regards.

[RokleM]

Stenopus, I'm sure Claude will reply as well given due time... From what I've read of many of these products, the numbers they shoot for are WELL outside of the "safe range" that most of us in the US shoot for. Where here 8.5-11 is the safe range for dkh, many of these systems shoot for 6.5 dkh (which is well into the critically "dangerous" zone). Where 1.025-1.026 is recommended for salinity here by most if you're keeping corals, it seems to be that many using these products recommend more fish only settings of 1.020.1.023.

Partially things are lost in translation, but it's a COMPLETELY different way of thinking and contradicts what many experts here claim. Maybe right, maybe wrong, but just a different logic. I point to the AlgaeX thread where "cooking rock" was discussed (a debated but highly accepted practice by many here), and the statement was made that it make no sense to work with rocks in this fashion.

Reefkeeping is different all over the world, and it's becoming more obvious as these types of products go global and are partially written for a given "standard" that may not apply to many distribution locations.

[Stenopus]

I am so confused, I don't understand anything. What I taught it was that bailing light methode is good replacement for calcium reactor. I have problem with calcium and magnesium and i want to build them up. I want to buy bailing light package, but I don't know how to use it. I don't want to create some problems in my tank therefore i need advice. After all this conversations I am even more depressed and confused.

[C. Schuhmacher]

HI Stenopus

No problem i will explain it better

The parameter Calcium , Magnesium and dkH will work together and build the stability of the system.
You need all 3 parameters in a relationship together.

This is the reason why the balling light methode has this 3 parts
in the system.

With every part you can control one of this important parameters and it make no difference if you use it at a salinity of 35 or 33.

I want to say you with my explanation that you will have more stability
and easier handling if you take you salinity a little bit lower.

If you want to run on the 35 salinity is also not a problem
then you add the paramater which you want to make higher
Do this slowly and over a few days.
Start with Magnesium part then with calcium part.

Greets Claude

[C. Schuhmacher]

Hi Eric

Yes you are true sometime the thinking is different but the chemistry in a tank is the same whole over the world.
Some thinks are different in the kind of run a reef tank between germany and usa but i know due to my talks that the problems which the people have with their tanks the same is around the world.

Greets claude

[Stenopus]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13229952#post13229952 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by C. Schuhmacher
HI Stenopus

No problem i will explain it better

The parameter Calcium , Magnesium and dkH will work together and build the stability of the system.
You need all 3 parameters in a relationship together.

This is the reason why the balling light methode has this 3 parts
in the system.

With every part you can control one of this important parameters and it make no difference if you use it at a salinity of 35 or 33.

I want to say you with my explanation that you will have more stability
and easier handling if you take you salinity a little bit lower.

If you want to run on the 35 salinity is also not a problem
then you add the paramater which you want to make higher
Do this slowly and over a few days.
Start with Magnesium part then with calcium part.

Greets Claude


Claude ,
If I buy Fauna Marin Bailing light package did i get

Sodium chloride 'NaCl' free sea salt ? In bailing light manual there is no words about Sodium chloride 'NaCl' free sea salt and
i am wondering do i need it or if i am folowing manual its just says put all 4 products in RO water ?

kind regards.

[C. Schuhmacher]

HI

In the balling light system you did not need it if you make a regular water change
if not you can use the sodiumchloride seasalt to avoid ionic inbalance
Greets claude

[Stenopus]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13230252#post13230252 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by C. Schuhmacher
HI

In the balling light system you did not need it if you make a regular water change
if not you can use the sodiumchloride seasalt to avoid ionic inbalance
Greets claude

HI Claude,
I am changing 10 % of whole water in my tank pwe week, is it ok ?

So for the end what i have to do is , lower salinity to 33pm , than
for my tank which is 400 litres i need to add 80ml every day from
all of these 3 cans or 80ml will be total amount 27ml from every can ? Check with test kits Alkalnity , Ca and Mg every day.

kind regards.

[AQD_ottawa]

Hi Stenopus

If you are still confused please email me at sales@aqua-digital.com and I will go through everything step by step one on one tuition :)

The same offer goes to everyone.

[Stenopus]

Thank you,
AQD ottawa i will do that.