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reeflover2
09/13/2008, 01:48 PM
Thinking of purchasing a pair of rhomboid wrasses.
They have become available in our area.
Quarantine or not to?
Are these fish suceptable to disease like other fish?
What would be ideal quarantine procedures in your opinion?

microbubbles
09/13/2008, 02:15 PM
i would qt them for sure. i believe zemuron can chime in here. i think he recommended a 1/2 dose of copper then a full dose again if necessary. also, if there's a lot of external wounds, he recommends nitrofurazone. then deworm with prazipro.

i have NO idea where to obtain nitrofurazone. maybe someone else can help.

hth

reeflover2
09/13/2008, 04:14 PM
You recommend those procedures if there is no signs of disease?

CeeGee
09/13/2008, 04:20 PM
deworm with prazipro twice. I have lost a couple of fairies to what appears to be internal parasites when I did the recommended dosage with prazipro. I have since been recommended to do it twice.

zemuron114
09/13/2008, 05:09 PM
most fairy wrasses need to be dewormed. Prazi pro works well (you can get it on ebay or google it) Do not use copper or other meds unless you need to. You will see any signs of disease within the first 3-5 days. Nitrofurazone is hard to find, i actually get mine from a wholesaler out of LA.

furazone green works as well, but i find it to be not as effective.

reeflover2
09/13/2008, 05:56 PM
Nitrofurazone - What do you use this for?
Is this instead of copper or cupramine?
The LFS has had them for three days now. I was going to wait a week before getting them. Good idea?

CeeGee
09/13/2008, 10:07 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13347656#post13347656 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reeflover2
Nitrofurazone - What do you use this for?
Is this instead of copper or cupramine?
The LFS has had them for three days now. I was going to wait a week before getting them. Good idea?

if you don't want the fish it is a good idea. Fairy wrasses go quick. They are very popular.

bradleyj
09/13/2008, 10:44 PM
Do you treat your fish before you sell them DJ ?
I've gotten quite a few fairies from my lfs that buys from you.
(You know who I'm talking about) And I haven't had any issues with the fish that he has gotten from you. Scotts, Flames and Rhomboids.

zemuron114
09/14/2008, 04:34 AM
I use to use prazi pro on all my fish but ran out recently (its pricey and shipping to HI is a pain) but i use nitrofurazone often. Nitro is used for external wounds such as sores, fin rot, nipped fins, and can be used to internal infections as well with a higher dose. Works very very well so far :)

how big are the fairies?

bradleyj
09/14/2008, 08:18 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13349788#post13349788 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by zemuron114


how big are the fairies? [/B]

All of my fish are getting BIG.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/tileman/Canon%20XSL/IMG_1238.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/tileman/Canon%20XSL/100mm%20macro/IMG_2194.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/tileman/Canon%20XSL/100mm%20macro/IMG_2206.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/tileman/Canon%20XSL/100mm%20macro/IMG_2247.jpg

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snorvich
09/14/2008, 02:35 PM
Nice pictures! Nice top that you did not show.

zemuron114
09/14/2008, 11:13 PM
brad, your tank has grown in really nicely. looks full of life!

CeeGee
09/15/2008, 12:02 PM
Brad,

What is the trick to getting a flame wrasse that will thrive?

I had one but right before I was going to move him to the display tank (qt for six weeks) he bit the dust. I had ordered one before him and it arrived doa.

They are one of my faves but I am skeptical about ever trying another as they seem so delicate and they are pricey to boot.

BTW yours is awesome.

Philwd
09/15/2008, 12:27 PM
I've had no luck with flames. Got one from LA that was supposed to be de-wormed and died in 2 months. Just overnight. Got another straight from Hawaii but he died during de-worming. Poor fish seemed to be just infested.

bradleyj
09/15/2008, 01:36 PM
My Flame and many others have come from my LFS that orders from DJ. Have your LFS get them from him. I have real good luck with all of my wrasses just keeping them fed well and good water perameters. Keeping them in the tank is the trick, you have to have a good top like Snorvich says.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/tileman/IMG_0336.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/tileman/100_4666.jpg

CeeGee
09/15/2008, 01:46 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13358106#post13358106 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bradleyj
My Flame and many others have come from my LFS that orders from DJ. Have your LFS get them from him. I have real good luck with all of my wrasses just keeping them fed well and good water perameters. Keeping them in the tank is the trick, you have to have a good top like Snorvich says.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/tileman/IMG_0336.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/tileman/100_4666.jpg

who is DJ?

LargeAngels
09/15/2008, 02:08 PM
DJ = Zemuron114.

bradleyj: What's your temp? I've had much better luck with wrasses keeping the temp down to mid 70's.

snorvich
09/15/2008, 02:19 PM
I keep mine at 78 F

Philwd
09/15/2008, 02:26 PM
I agree DJ's are top notch. My lineatus and laboutei females and rhomboid male are from him. I try and keep mine below 79.

bradleyj
09/15/2008, 02:26 PM
Mine is at 77-78 always.

zemuron114
09/16/2008, 04:47 AM
well i appreciate the comments :)

i honestly believe most of the troubles originate from decompression issues. they are a deep wrasse for the most part and are usually pinned by the collectors (which is actually fine in most cases) if the collector knows what he is doing, they will be fine in the long run. I had one my friend caught for almost 2 years but he died during a tank spike (along with about 12 other fairies :() keep temp below 80, well fed, and QT with prazi pro, and you should be good to go. It shouldn't take long to de-worm (couple weeks)

large angels - i agree 100%. I think most people lose more fairies (and fish in general) to high temps.

z's_N_p's
09/16/2008, 03:44 PM
thanks for the heads up with the temp... good to know when I get some nice wrasses later on.. :)

scchase
09/16/2008, 04:13 PM
Hmm never lost a fairy to high temps yet and my tank routinly gets up to 86 and is full SPS go figure. Now jumping on the other hand stupid fish can find the craziest ways to get out or to somewere were I cant get them.

LargeAngels
09/17/2008, 09:59 AM
Some fairy's may do well at higher temps. But generally they tend to do better at lower temps. Many of these fairy wrasses live in deep water which is cooler. Just like many other fish, such as angels, that come from deeper water do better in colder tanks.

bradleyj
09/17/2008, 10:21 AM
Whats your average temp that you maintain Large Angels?
What is the age of your oldest wrasse? I would love to be able to support these fish to a ripe old age.

LargeAngels
09/17/2008, 02:23 PM
Average temp. is 76°F. I think the oldest is about 4 years.

Macimage
09/17/2008, 07:32 PM
How low do you let your tank go LargeAngels?

Thanks!
Joyce

LargeAngels
09/18/2008, 06:31 AM
I think the controllers turn the heaters on at 75°F and the Chiller at 77°F.

Macimage
09/18/2008, 09:00 AM
Thanks! Just checking to see where others are running their tanks.

Joyce