Thors 450 Build Thread!!!!!!!

[thor32766]

I started with a 90 and then went to a 220. I bought a few tangs from a fellow reefer for the 220 and things just took off. After a couple years with the 220 I wanted out. I just couldn't bare the thought of getting rid of my prized Orange Shoulder Tang. So I went out and bought the 450. That is where this story begins.

Here is the stand done with the several coats of killz to protect it.
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I bought this 230 gallon tank from someone to build my sump/Refugium out of. It worked out great, being its only 5 feet long. Tangers from this board and I in the pic are putting the walls into place in the tank.
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Tangers here making some adjustments to the sump/ref
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[thor32766]

Walls completely into place.
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Stand with sump slid into place. We actually had to lift the stand up to place the sump under it.
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Tank on Stand!!!
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[thor32766]

You can see the 220 gallon next to the 450. We had to empty the 220 and move it across the room. I was putting the 450 in the place of the 220, but wanted the tank to cycle. Stressful to say the least. Tough catching the fish I have they are pretty big. We learned the best way to move big fish was to trap them in corners and catch them with buckets. Works out great!!!
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/thor32766/pic443.jpg
Sump and some plumbing into place.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/thor32766/pic455.jpg

Oceans Motions setup with plumbing. Mounted real nice.
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[tangers]

that's it....? I know you got more. Looks like you have some good help.

[thor32766]

The shot with someone in it.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/thor32766/pic482.jpg

Tangers (on the left) and I. Without Tangers help this simply would not have been possible. The Builder of Dreams I call him.
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Finally water in the tank!!!!!
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[Tangwich]

This is going to be a great build. Details on your current fish (how many and sizes) Any pictures of them in your 220?

[thor32766]

I have a ton of pics will be posting here and there. I will continue to throw in details. I am a tang fanatic you will see. Thanks tangwich I can see you are appreciative of the tang species also!!!

[thor32766]

Tank cycling through with my chromis, Tangers joked they probably think they are back in the ocean. They were the only fish in there for quite awhile.
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This was my original skimmer Precision Marine XL 2. I sold it thinking the tank was going down with the thought of moving. Later sold it and still to this day I am fighting with FedEx because they destoyed it in shipping!!!!!
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Jumping ahead here is the tangs finally in their home.
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[thor32766]

My servant Tangers putting the skin on the stand.
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more stand pics
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I keep employee moral high. Proof with the smile in the picture!!
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[thor32766]

The new skimmer after the old one was sold. Reeflo 250 Pro Kit was put into place. The placement of the stand worked out great. You can partly see my little fish room that is behind the tank.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/thor32766/fishpics004.jpg

Newer pics with a lot better camera.

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a shot of the stand completed!!!!! Thanks again to my employee Tangers!!!
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[Tangwich]

WOW, you weren't kidding about loving Tangs...those Naso's are huge and incredibly beautiful. Were they all in your 220g? I have subscribed as I know this is going to be a very nice build thread. Is this going to be a reef tank or FOWLR? Any details on your English Bulldog? I also love English Bulldogs and was so close to getting a pup, but after taking into consideration the fact that my house is two stories and I know that it would have a hard time going up stairs, I decided otherwise : (
Lastly, have you thought of keeping an Achilles or Powder BLue tang? I have never been successful with Powder Blues but currently have an Achilles (5-6 inches) that's doing VERY well with my other 3 tangs in my 225g (Purple, Yellow and Yellow Belly Blue tang).

[thor32766]

Specs
450 gallon Tank
230 gallon Sump/Refugium
Super Dart Return
Super Dart Closed Loop
(2) Nova Extreme T5 54Wx8
Reeflo Orca 250 Pro Kit with Iwaki 40xlt feed
Aqua C XP Phosban Reactor
AC JR with DC8

Fish
Black Tang
(3) Yellow Tangs
(2) Hippo Tangs
Red Sea Sailfin tang
Sailfin Tang
Vlamingi Tang
Naso Tang
Blonde Naso Tang
Purple Tang
My Beloved Orange Shoulder!!!!

Christmas Island Emperor
Goldflake Angel
Regal Angel
Scribble Rabbit
Swallow Tail Angel
Christmas Wrasse
Pair of Blue Throats
(5) Blue Chromis
(3) Yellow Tail Damels
Blue Damsel
Mandarin
Purple Psuedochromis
Starry Blenny
Tons of hermits snails and cukes.

[HomeSlizzice]

WOW, nice collection of beautiful tangs as well as some beautiful angels. Nice job :thumbsup: :D

[masharp1126]

Very nice healthly looking fish, LOVE that Orange Shoulder. Is this FOWLR or will you be adding corals?

[tangers]

where's the emp???

[thor32766]

Tangwich-Love my bulldogs. I have a boy and a girl and they are the greatest dogs in the world to me. I have been lucky(knock on wood) they have both been very healthy no problems. I want another one, but the girlfriend has enough trouble controlling the two when I am not there!!! Thats awesome to be able to keep an achilles!! They are tough fish to get established. Never thought of keeping a PBT or achilles with my tang load. Was not sure if they could handle what my red sea would hand down. She is a whopping 12" and is very tough on new fish.

Thanks Homeslizzice!!!!

Masharp1126- I used to have a ton of zoos till the regal declared war on them!!! Now I have quite a few different mushrooms and couple leathers that are starting to take off. I will continue to add mushrooms here or there. Thanks for the orange shoulder comment she is by far and away my favorite fish. She actually made the tang slideshow a couple months ago on ReefSlides.

[thor32766]

I didnt even recognize she wasn't in the pics. I will post one later of the big girl.

[ricks]

Those are some nice looking Tangs. I have (5) in my 500 and sure enjoy them.

Your sump looks full how do you handle the back flow from the tank???

Happy Reefing

[thor32766]

Thanks ricks. I have never had any problems with the sump overflowing even with all the power outages we have here in florida. I guess the size of the sump helps.
Yeah tangs are very entertaining to say the least!

[JRaquatics]

Great work. Good thing you have the Reeflo 250 on that tank with those gorgeous large tangs. Your orange shoulder alone makes the upgrade worth it.

[thor32766]

Thanks JRaquactics. I swear by my Reeflo that thing is simply awesome!!! Thanks for the comments.
Couple random pics of fish and the tank. Hopefully you guys will enjoy!
Emperor
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/thor32766/fishpics003.jpg
Regal
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/thor32766/fishpics002.jpg
Tank shot
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[Tangwich]

Here's a good question that no one has asked...what do you feed and how much food do you go through on a daily or monthly basis? also, any vitamins or supplements?

[thor32766]

Daily schedule
Mornings 3 full sheets of nori along with 2 large leafs of Romaine Lettuce.
Early evening I have frozen mixture of shrimp, mysis, formula 1 and 2. Krill, garlic selcon and zoe. I premake it once every couple months. This way when I come home I just defrost the food on RO/DI water and in it goes. I also throw in two more large leafs of romaine.
Tangs should be fed often. In the ocean they are grazers and eat all day long. A lot like cows. So when we put them in the home aquarium and feed less often they become more aggressive and territorial towards food. HTH.
thanks again tangwich!

[samson78945]

those are some biggggg tangs!!! everything looks very healthy!

[rottbo]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13376916#post13376916 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tangers
where's the emp??? http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/thor32766/fishpics004.jpg right here if you look real close

awesome fish

[thor32766]

Thanks rottbo!

[lusenut2]

I saw the 220 when it was up and running. That tank was amazing, I could only imagine the 450 how it looks in person. lol

[thor32766]

Thanks lusenut!

[roktsintst]

what are the dimensions of the 450?

[Pacific Reefs]

SeaWorld in your house! I'm waiting for the sea otter to swim out of there. I can't wait to see this tank again...unbelievable.

http://www.travelkamchatka.com/images/seaotter.jpg

[tangers]

Thanks for all the kind words. I think it was more fun building it rather than work so the pleasure was all mine. By the way have you smoothed over the 3,000 gallon with the misses yet??? Looking back at the pics I think we could easily do it!

[thor32766]

roktsintst- 96x36x30 is the measurements.
Pacific, still waiting on the permits for Clyde and Seamore!!!! Thanks
Yeah, tangers working on the specs now!!!

[SSpiro]

Stunning..!

[burton14e7]

You look like a pretty tall fellow and that stand comes up pretty high on you. How tall is the stand??

Here is Chuck aka the Chuckinator aka Chuck 4000. He goes up the stairs way faster than he goes down but he's fine.


http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w119/burton14e7/chuck.jpg

[StripestheEel]

Some of those fish are huge!

What are some of the sizes of them?

The unicorn, Naso's look big!

[thor32766]

The stand is 42" tall. I wanted to have it so when you walk up to you its right in your face. Chuck is adorable! Bulldogs are so entertaining.
The naso with the large streams in close to 14" I would say. Hes a big boy. Most of my fish are pretty big. All of them except the(naso) i have had over three years and all of them have more then tripled in size.
The most ridiculous growth is the vlamingi. He went from 3 inches or so to 10" now. Thats in a little over a year.

[Grouperhead]

Great looking tank. Love the goldflake angel especially.

[thor32766]

hey thanks grouperhead!! The goldflake is one of the most active fish I have ever seen. he is all over the tank. He never stops.

[CharChar15]

Wow Gorgeous tangs!!!!

[tangers]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13400902#post13400902 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Grouperhead
Great looking tank. Love the goldflake angel especially.
that fish never stops!! just to eat and barely that! one of my favorite fish in the tank, the "flakes" look awesome under the lights.

[DaveG99]

you got an emporer angel now! NIce! I am moving into my girl friends place for a couple months and I am setting up a 40 gallon breeder there. I am bored with the 46 gallon bow front. I only have one fish right now too its just a six line wrasse. Next year when I move to a place more permanent with my girl friend I am building a custom rimless 36"x24"x18" tank and going full blown SPS! Man do I miss Florida. They charge $13 for emerald crabs around here! And I saw a royal gramma for $26 the other day. I remember them for $6 sometimes in orlando.

[thor32766]

Yeah remember our day trips to keys!!!! "Man I got the wrong size wetsuit!!!!!!!!!" That was halarious! Still can't believe the news I heard from you the other day!

[DaveG99]

yep. Im gonna be a daddy! I am excited about it.

Hey does your angel eat your coral?

[ivgonmad]

wow, what are the dims of the 450?

[thor32766]

ivgonmad- the measurements are 96x36x30

WD- congrats on that!!!! Yes the Emp devours zoo's and I have even witnessed her eat some of my mushrooms. For some reason she doesent touch mushroom that have texture to them. Like for example hairy mushrooms.

[tangers]

Have you re-done the rock work yet? Are you still planning on doing it if not?

[BangkokMatt]

Great looking tank Thor - and good to put a face to the name :)
Have you still got the Genicanthus in there. I can't see them.

[thor32766]

Hey thanks Bangkok. Yeah still there. I will have post some more pics. Are fish pretty crazy over there as far as availability?
tangers working on getting some penductors of some kind and then will rework the rocks and plumbing. Cant wait taking vacation time to get my tangs some more current!!!

[jdogg2432]

Your water level in the sump looks like it's pretty close to the top. I'm assuming you tested that it doesn't overflow in the event of a power outage.

Just an observation.

[BangkokMatt]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13459307#post13459307 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by thor32766
Are fish pretty crazy over there as far as availability?


Availability has improved a great deal over the past couple of years. We now get pretty much anything that is being collected at the time - conspics, clarions, gem tangs, koi tangs - you name it. Prices are generally 30% cheaper than the US.

[erics3000]

Sweet tank...yours is the dimesions I should have goten...Your orange shoulder is beautifull..

[PaulieWalnuts]

like those fish a lot too....i know i love my tangs...in my 75...just wish i had room for a tank like that and the money lol...being a student sucks.

[thor32766]

bangkokmatt-So whens the gem tang coming to your tank!!!
Jd0gg2432- Here in florida we get tested pretty often with power outages. Done many a test to see. It also helps that my sump below is 230 gallons.
Erics3000- thanks the width of the tank helps. The orange shoulder is my baby. The whole reason for this tank!!!
Pauliewalnuts- Yeah I started with a 90 and that didnt last very long with my love of tangs. Then 220 was enough to hold them. So this went up. Maybe something bigger down the road. Once you go tang you never go back!

[BangkokMatt]

lol - A gem is still way too expensive to watch my purple rip it to shreds.

[thor32766]

You know whats funny they most passive fish in my tank is my purple and hes a big boy. One of the biggest purples I have every seen. In my 3 yrs + of having him I dont think I have ever even seen him chase a fish. I guess it helps with the big boys in the tank.

[tangers]

my purple isn't that aggressive either. My red sea sailfin would be the first to rip anyone a new one.. and they are supposed to be peaceful.... lol...

BangkokMatt-So when are you going to send us 2 koi tangs? Do you take paypal? lol...

[erics3000]

HA funny I had a sailfin for about 3 years and when I moved him to my new tank he was in Heaven. He would pick on anything that was in the tank. I bought some cleaner shrimp put them in the tank and he ate them both. He would fly from one side of the tank to the other he loved the 8 feet compared to the 4 I had.It kinda sucked he jumped out of my tank and my dog got him...Reminds me I need to finish the screen covers.

Damm that is a sweet Orange SHoulder..great colors really bright...

[tangers]

that is crazy, sorry to hear about the jump!

[thor32766]

wow erics thats crazy. A sailfin jumping out pretty crazy stuff! Eating cleaner shrimp that guy was out of control. I checked out your build thread looks great can't wait to see the new fish you orderd in your tank!

[tangers]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13468190#post13468190 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by thor32766
wow erics thats crazy. A sailfin jumping out pretty crazy stuff! Eating cleaner shrimp that guy was out of control. I have never heard of that either!

[erics3000]

Yeah it hurt, I had him for a while. He was about 5 in and pretty fat. It was the 2nd fish I had to tell my dog to release from his mouth. He really loved the extra space and took off. I think next time I will go with at least 30 high so they can swim over rocks. I origanlly only wanted to go with 30 but went with the 25 because I was only going to use 250 mh and wound up using 400 anyway huhh. I shouldn’t have dropped the shrimp in during the day time, he figured anything that came from the top was his to eat.
hhhahahh

I have been wantin to add some more tangs soon. Just trying to get my parameters in spec and hook up my skimmer. How do yours get along??

[thor32766]

All mine get along great. I dont have any aggression at all. They are well feed which helps.

[Lowredranger]

we need a picture of a behind the tank setup

[stunreefer]

Holy smokin' Joe!!! :bum:

Awesome set-up Thor!

[thor32766]

hey jason. I will try to post some pics in a day or two.
Thanks stunreefer!!!
I will be posting some new pics soon with some new aquascaping.

[tangers]

Brians orange shoulder is one of the most amazing fish I have ever seen in person!

[thor32766]

Here's a little example of what a orca pro kit 250 can do!! A pic only a reefer could love!!!
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/thor32766/crap.jpg
My new collection cup. Picked it up on clearence from Linens and Things. Holds 3 gallons of water has a spout and fits perfect under my skimmer stand!!
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New 44 gallon brute with auto top off installed.
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[thor32766]

Random shot of my emp!
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/thor32766/crap013.jpg
My beloved Orange Shoulder. God she is so awesome!!!
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My big boy naso showing his beautiful streamers.
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[thor32766]

Vlamingi shot. This guy is growing like he is on steriods. His streamers are really starting to come along now!
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/thor32766/crap008.jpg
I redid the the right side of my tank to have bigger caves and came out pretty good. Here is three seperate shots.
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I also made some sweet nozzles for my closed loop that really worked out great. I will try to post those soon. Hope everyone enjoys the pics!

[T5PO]

Im inspired :eek2:

[tangers]

That skimmate was disgusting! New scaping looks tight! Much better! You better get some pics of the back before Jason gets ****ed!

[thor32766]

thanks for the comment t5po! Yeah I forgot to get those pics I will have to take some and post. Sorry Low Red Ranger.

[Lowredranger]

Hey i am here and you didn't get the pics up in time WTH!!!

So do you actually use your little nozzle on your skimmer collection cup?

The rock structure is looking good but i think everyone wants more pictures of that nasty skimmer sludge. lol

[thor32766]

what nozzle are you talking about? the drain nozzle? if so yes thats how it drains down to the collection cup. If thats what your talking about.

[tangers]

I think he's talking about the drain at the bottom. The one you use to empty the container.

[thor32766]

heck yeah I use that to empty it. Thats why I was so excited about it!!!

[Lowredranger]

Yea i was referencing when you said the your new container has a spout i just was wondering if you actually used it.

[Lowredranger]

lol i did not know if it worked or got clogged b/c of all that nasty stuff coming out of your skimer.

[thor32766]

The thicker stuff tends to stay in the cup up top and the fluid drains down to it, but it smells horrible when I do drain it!!! I love this cup it works exceptional! I can't believe you passed up the sand jason!

[Lowredranger]

oh shut up about the sand already i was considering calling James and having him get it if the guy hadn't already sold it to someone else.

[vsuboy]

wow i love all the tangs, i used to have a small orangeshoulder then i had to give him away cuz he got to big.

but your tank looks beautiul and the tangs are amazing.

[onebadgt]

tank is awesome!!!! love the orange shoulder tang

[thor32766]

Thanks for the complament fellas. Orangeshoulders are awesome fish!!!!

[thor32766]

Your to funny jason!!!!! how don't know how the slave puts up with you!

[Lowredranger]

lol. I think you know the answer to that one.

[murphysfish]

super cool ! love the tangs !

[thor32766]

thanks murphysfish! As you can see I love tangs too!!! Good luck on your 280!!!!
She does seem like a charitable person!!!

[Terence Trent]

Tank is one my favs...thinking of a similar set-up in the living room. Softies + Tangs, about 400G

Do you run into any humidity issues?

[thor32766]

yes I do. I run a humidafier in the living which helps, but fills up quite often. Still wouldn't trade any negatives for having the tank the living room. Its my church!! Afterwork bud light lime and my couch watching my tangs!!
Can't wait to see your thread terence when you start your tank!

[mindytoy]

how many tangs fo you have? they even look crouded in that 450 i cant believe ppl have some of the big ones in 55s.

[erics3000]

Yeah i agree with that. I wish I had my tank in my family room wall. It would be really cool to chill watch tv and check out the fish. AS long as it is set up to not glare on the tv I cant think of a better spot for a tank.

[Tangwich]

Hey Thor, not that you have to justify anything to anyone but would you happen to have a video recorder to shoot a small video so that the skeptics can see how big a 450 is in reality as opposed to pictures? Ok, ok, I just want to see a video of those beauties in your tank :D

[thor32766]

yeah I post something in photobucket. Thanks for support though tangwich. It is somewhat decieving because when I get close up to the tank they think it feeding time and its like summoning the clowns with a bell for food!! Its hard to see the depth the tank. Its 3 feet wide which helps out a lot.
mindtoy I have 13 total tangs. They have all been with me a minimum of almost 4 yrs now. A few of them almost 6yrs.
Thanks erics3000!! Love your tank also. wall seperaters are sweet! do you still have the white check?

[erics3000]

Thanks thor32766.

I lost him a new copper band when we had fires in my area. I was out of power for a few days running the generator on and off. That is still a little sore spot for me. A few weeks ago I found a 4 inch Achiles and he has been doing fine in my tank. Not to agressive at all..

[thor32766]

sweet an achilles. Good luck with him. Hope he does great! I will have to check out thread to see a pic.

[bkvreef]

Just for fun: next time you have a party, get together line up the drinks next to your skimmer collection. See how long until someones tastes the skimmate.

Sorry bad joke but I couldn't pass it up.

Beautiful tank!

I have my 220g in my family room and am also worried about humidity.

What type of dehumidifier do you have?

[CharChar15]

How is the auto topp off working?

[SteveJakubiec]

Really nice orange shoulder, how is the temperment on them? What does it like to eat?


Thanks,
Steve

[thor32766]

yeah the smell might give it away first!!!! Thanks for the complament!!! Circuitcity had a promo of them, its a sunbeam 50 pint. Works great. They were 99.99 brand new!!!! They didnt last very long and since they were a promotinal item circuity city no longer carries them.
Not sure if it will work the same for you, but I had a 220 with a 75 gallon sump along with a 90 gallon tank and 20 gallon sump, before and didnt have any humidity problems.
Now that I have over 700 gallons in the living it was very apparent, but never had a problem with it before.

The orangeshoulder is one of my most passive fish. She has the best personality in the tank. She is feed nori, romaine, brocolli, vitamin packed shrimp. She is very very active though.

[thor32766]

The auto top off is a JBJ and is working great. So happy I am no longer bringing the 5 gallon water jug back and forth!

[reefman8471]

How long have you had your larger fish (tangs and angels)? I was wondering how much they have grown under your care.

James

[FUA]

got tangs?

[thor32766]

hey reefman, a couple of them the yellow and sailfin I have had for over 6 yrs now. The majority of them I have had a little over 3 yrs. Just about all of them have grown 3 to 4 x their original size. an example is my red sea sailfin was around 4 inches when I got her three years ago, she is now around the 12 inch mark now. Hopefully I was able to answer you question.
Thanks FUA, Yes I have an addiction!!! This is why an upgrade is due in a year or so.

[Lowredranger]

Man by the time you get one tank up and running you are ready for another upgrade.

I am getting scared that i am not upgrading big enough to start!!!
Definitely not what Sonya wants to hear. lol

[thor32766]

yeah you still have time!!! You havent built a stand yet so you can still upgrade! Who is Sonya????

[Lowredranger]

lol. I will see how my job goes if it turns around i may try and collect all my equipment and possibly reconsider size/design.

I think i am going to drill the wall and put the skimmer in the garage.

I am going to have to look into my power consumption which has become my latest worry.

[Brandon M]

Any word from FedEx? You haven't responded to my PM's or emails in months.

[bullitr]

i was planning to have same dimension as your tank but unfortunately my wall on my new house allows me to have 24" only to be flush on the wall:(. anyway how the angel doing are you planning to have clams in the tank?

[thor32766]

I wouldnt dare try a clam with either of my angels. My regal and emp love clam on a half shell. They would probably love the addition a clam, but would be a pricey snack.

[erics3000]

I had an angle a few years back and than bought a clam. I learned the hard way. I wind up giving the angle to a friend. That made me realize you really need to know what your doing. If you dont want to give your fish a $50 treat.

[JRaquatics]

Tank is looking really good. Love your selection of fish. Your orange shoulder is definitely something to admire. If I ever get a larger setup that is the first tang I will add to my collection.

On a side note: keep an eye on leeks coming out of the spout of the collection container. After a while scum builds up and causes the valve not to close fully. I have my collection container set up the same way and works great but the valve needs to be cleaned every so often. You definitely don't want that toxic stuff leaking out.;)

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/thor32766/crap020.jpg

[PreacherMan607]

Great Tank and Fish Thor! I also love the tangs!

[thor32766]

thanks for the backup on that eric!
Thanks for the heads up on that JR I know the women of the house will appreciate that. She dosent seem to truly appreciate the smell that can come from a reeflo!!!! Yes my orange shoulder is my pride and joy!
Thanks preacherman. Yeah tangs are great fish!!! I attend counseling weekly on keeping away from fish stores!

[Lowredranger]

Well once you sell your Naso tang you can get a majestic Angel i think he would look real good in that tank, some more bright colors. lol

[erics3000]

I can back you up on a lot off stuff. hahhah Sad but true. I had a big star fish that my wife loved.

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z233/erics3000/Aquarium/DSC02932.jpg

I finally made it to a ORCA frag meet and 1 night later this. These mishaps really suck. It really kills me to loose livestock to my own ignorance. QT from now on. Patience and knowledge...

[thor32766]

Well altleast you might help someone else down the road from you lesson. Thats what its all about!

[Pacific Reefs]

Man I love this tank! Any more pictures?

[brodden]

how much do you feed these fish everyday? I bet it takes a lot... do you supplement the food at all with vitamins and minerals?

[thor32766]

Thank Tom!!! I will post some more soon.
Hey brodden. Their daily feeding is this:
Morning
3-4 pieces of romaine lettuece along with 3 sheets of nori
Evening
Home made food with zoe, selcon,carrots, broccoli,nori,shrimp,mussles,garlic.

They eat often, but they are quite fat and happy.

[xXReefXx]

nice tank!!

[tangers]

Man, I am sure it looks a little thin in there now without big boy. You check into those convicts yet?

[thor32766]

I actually forgot I will call tommy today. I have one less tang now I dont know what to do!!!!!!!!!!! Your convict and copperband are rocking it. Their transition was flawless!!!!!!!! The coppeband thinks hes a tang since he hangs with the big boys!

[thor32766]

Thanks xreefX
hey tangers in a day or two I will take a pic of your fish so you can see them in a real home.

[Lowredranger]

Man you are cruel, the guy goes down to a 34g and your picking on him like that.

[tangers]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13867636#post13867636 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lowredranger
Man you are cruel, the guy goes down to a 34g and your picking on him like that.
Would you expect anything less..?

[Lowredranger]

no and would probably worry if he wasn't so cruel.

[thor32766]

New additions copperband and convict. These two are from tangers old tank. awesome fish both of them
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/thor32766/fish.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/thor32766/fish002-1.jpg

[thor32766]

here's my red sailfin. People who dont believe that red seas get big in home aquariums, heres mine that has grown from the 3-4 size I got her at and now shes a full blown 12"!!!!!
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/thor32766/fish007-1.jpg

[thor32766]

Random tank shots to follow:
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/thor32766/fish010.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/thor32766/fish011.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/thor32766/fish013.jpg

[thor32766]

more shots:
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/thor32766/fish014.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/thor32766/fish015-1.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/thor32766/fish016-1.jpg

[thor32766]

even more:
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/thor32766/fish017-1.jpg

got to have a skimmer foam shot!!! Love my reeflo!
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/thor32766/fish012.jpg

[Lowredranger]

Awesome shots as usual, glad to see you finally cleaned the tank on the ends. I see you got the convict to sit still long enough to get a clear picture, i think i might steal him...

I need a new camera your pics come out so awesome.

[erics3000]

Wow Great shoots

[tangers]

Looks good, it's amazing where a lot of cheap labor will get you!

Copperband and Convict look happy, though. Still probably lost in all that water!

[thor32766]

yeah they have adapted well. The coppeband is so funny he stands up to everyone and gets right and middle of everyone eating. Already loves to be hand feed. He has the same personality as my old one. I am so happy you moved now!!!
The convict is just ridiculous I can't believe these fish arent more popular. His cleaning ablilites beat any fish I have been around and has amazing colors to fit that awesome personality of his.

[JRaquatics]

Tank looks great. I am sure there is loads of activity in your tank with all those tangs. Nice convict, any reason why you didn't get more than one?

[thor32766]

i would love to have more. Tangers from this board moved back to Iowa, so he came from his tank. That was the only reason I got him. I havent been to a fish store in I dont know how long. If I move here soon I will be upgrading tanks and want a trio of them thats for sure.

[Pike614]

Hey Thor, I started a 450g exactly like yours in October, and just came acrossed your thread....sweet stuff. I also have the Reeflo 250...didn't mod it with the longer neck and collection cup yet though. Did you add the upgraded needle wheel also? It looks like you used a different pipe (or cut the stock pipe) from your skimmer return just below the neck...or did you use the super short pipe for the first riser? I am still trying to dial in my skimmer, but with only 5 tangs in my tank I think I am getting just about everything out I can. Thanks for the info!

[Leonardo_]

Great shots and beautiful fish. My convict tang is about the same size as yours. Does your convict also grows less fast then other Acanthurus?

Leonardo

[thor32766]

Hey Pike no not running the needle wheel just yet. I will be upgrading at some point. The drain is cut shorter for better performance, per Mike from reefspecialty. Mine works awesome and never has to be adjusted.
Thanks leonardo for the comments. No thats what is great about the convicts they dont explode with growth. Dont they have awesome personailites though?

thanks again

[Pacific Reefs]

Great pictures Brian. Hey I didn't see it on the thread but how thick is the acylic on the tank? It looks like 1"

[Pacific Reefs]

Great pictures Brian. Hey I didn't see it on the thread but how thick is the acylic on the tank? It looks like 1"

[thor32766]

yeah 1" tom.

[Pacific Reefs]

Nice that thing is bulletproof! If you remember Eric that came with me to your house that day...he just setup a 90g reef. He is hooked now. I'm sure it won't be long until he sets up a 8 footer too.

[thor32766]

Of course I remember him, you two have been the only ones that really enjoyed seeing my tank. Love your tank build. That stand you got from mflamb looks sick!!!!
the 90 will last 6months to a year. Tell him to start a tank fund on the side.

[Pike614]

Hey Thor,
I am considering adding a Purple tang... I already have a Naso, Orange Shoulder, Saildin, D. Sailfin and a Hippo. Most are about 4-6" in size now. Has your purple tang been aggressive towards your other tangs? If so which ones? Thanks!

[Lowredranger]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13958886#post13958886 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by thor32766
Of course I remember him, you two have been the only ones that really enjoyed seeing my tank. Love your tank build. That stand you got from mflamb looks sick!!!!
the 90 will last 6months to a year. Tell him to start a tank fund on the side.

What the heck do I not count I enjoy seeing your fish tank!!!:rolleyes:

[thor32766]

hey pike614 I must have a rare purple tang, because he is so laid back and doesent mess with anyone. I even have 4 other zebra's in there with him. I dont see much of a problem with the group you have. Just make sure and if possible add if at night and keep the lights off for a day or two. Also make sure and keep them feed while they all get to know each other. Let me know how it goes.
No jason you never count since I can't COUNT on you on the cornhole court!

[Lowredranger]

Count on me!!! Your supposed to be the professional here and you can't even beat someone who has never played in there life.:D

[Pike614]

sounds good. I think I'm rolling the dice by adding a Purple, Powder Blue and Powder brown, and a Yellow to the group all at once....we'll see!

[BigTuna321]

those are neat fish

[thor32766]

hey thanks big tuna!!!
pike are you going to QT those guys at all? I never tried PBT or powder brown with their history of being territorial and their diease attraction.

[Pike614]

hey Thor, not sure about the QT yet....it'd need to be a big QT set-up to house that many tangs....I have had a Powder Blue and he wasn't too bad in terms of territorial (he was in a 75g!) I've heard stories though...and don't want a bully in the tank. I had an amazing clown tang in the 450, too bad he was such a bully. I caught him and sold him to a local reefer.

[thor32766]

yeah its ashame about clowns they are so beautiful. Good luck with your boys and let me know how it goes.

[Pike614]

will do!

[DaveG99]

updates?

[count2k3]

Great looking tank, stand, and fish. Its amazing to see so many tangs co-existing. By the way I am in love with the orange shoulder.

[Reeftanks6]

This is a beautiful tank. Thumbs up. Love the tangs. I am a tang lover as i can see you are as well. Just beautiful.

[Nerd1717]

Very cool tank!

[HASBRO]

This tank is one of my favs. I need an update please and thanks.

[tangers]

This tank was taken down last year. He moved and downgraded.

[beex215]

thats terrible news. this is my first time seeing this thread and things were looking mighty fine,

[HASBRO]

This tank was taken down last year. He moved and downgraded.

Thats sad, nothing like a tank full of adult tangs.

[thor32766]

Thanks guys. Loved that tank. I moved and the new house didnt have the space for the 450. I downgraded to a 300 gallon tank.

[dahenley]

any new build thread or pictures of the 300??

[HASBRO]

any new build thread or pictures of the 300??

Show us a couple pics, do you still have that Orange shoulder tang?

[thor32766]

I will try to post some up in a couple days. No. The only Tangs i have are two blue hippos, yellow tang and my sailfin. I had them all the longest. Going on close to 9 yrs i think it is. I wanted a little less up kept and having that many fish water changes were a must. Thanks again for all your comments guys I really loved that tank.

[oceanslayer18]

you sir have made me jealous with your tangs lol and i know my sohal will be happy.

[fuzzy_dunlop]

Wow, that was an awesome tank.