60g 2' Cube Build Thread

[binaryterror]

So I am starting a new tank. A 60g cube, 25"x24"x24" which will be rimless and made by glasscages.com with 1/2" glass. I plan on turning it into a mixed reef. With the limited space I have under the stand (only 30" tall), I am going to have 2 10g sumps. One on a small stand about 6" tall which will be the fuge. The fuge will then drain directly into the main 10g sump with the skimmer and return pump. We will just have to see how this all fits in there. It's going to be a TIGHT fit for sure!

For circulation I am using a Reeflo Dart pump for a closed loop system. One intake which will be located underneith the rocks, and 2 outlets, both coming in from the bottom of the tank in the front two corners. For a return I am using a Gen X PC-X 55HP Pump. Now all of these powerful pumps will create an enormous amount of flow. That is why I am going to put a ball-valve on the outputs of each pump to tune the flow to my likeing.

For filtration I will be using a small sand bed (1"-3") in the display. I am also having a 10g dedicated refugium that will house a DSB of about 6" and LR rubble and a nice wad of chaeto. I am also going to have 60lbs.+ of rock in the display. The skimmer is a Euro-Reef ES5-2.

Lighting will be a Hamilton Reefstar pendant with a 250 watt ballast. I have a 20k bulb and a 14k bulb but I am not sure which bulb I will use yet.

I am going to pick up the tank tonight so I will post pics when I get back.

Wish me luck!

[jaydubh11]

I ordered a tank from glasscages about a year ago with the same dimensions.

What are you planning on keeping?

[TXAlbert]

Goodluck dude!!! The skimmer arrives on Tuesday!!!

[edwing206]

I'm about to setup a tank just like yours. It's a 60 gallon AGA black rimmed tank. It's gonna have a Giesemann MH fixture too. I'm definitely going to be tagging along! Be sure to post pics!

[60Cubed]

I have a 60cube...........I need a bigger tank already! I love the dems......but they run out of room really fast. Will tag along and listen.

[binaryterror]

I am posting this from my phone and we are on our way back from Columbus now back to Cleveland! The tanks looks amazing and the stand looks great as far as I could tell while checking the stuff out. I have a question though... on the phone glasscages told me to wait at least a week before putting any water in it. Yet on a paper in the tank it says wait 3 weeks. Do I really need to wait 3 weeks before I can add water? Thanks and pics to come tomorrow since we wil be getting home too late and need to get to be haha. Updates to come!

[binaryterror]

I plan on keeping mostly LPS with some leathers/softies and a couple nice SPS once I have the tank really established. Fish-wise I plan on 2 true Percula clowns with a carpet anemone. Also possibly a flame angel and a yellow tang and maybe even a copperband butterfly if my tank is doing really well down the road. But generally I am looking for alot of smaller fish as opposed to a few bigger fish.

[binaryterror]

Pics of the equipment I have at the moment:

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Pics of the tank and stand come tomorrow!

[60Cubed]

If they say not to, I wouldn't. They know their product better than anyone else. Looks good. You will be happy with that Euro-reef skimmer. I run one on mine as well.

[mightymouse]

Mind if i ask how much the tank is shipped im thinking of getting one of the same dimensions. Also 2 questions wont 2 feet not be enough swimming room for the tang/angel and second why not run the sump before the fuge so you lose less critters so more food gets to your tank.

[tydtran]

looking forward to seeing your progress

[binaryterror]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13480621#post13480621 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mightymouse
Mind if i ask how much the tank is shipped im thinking of getting one of the same dimensions. Also 2 questions wont 2 feet not be enough swimming room for the tang/angel and second why not run the sump before the fuge so you lose less critters so more food gets to your tank.

That's a good point. I don't have anything set in stone yet so I can always change it to that. I just figured that the return pump in the refugium might suck up alot of sand and chaeto. I don't really want to have to make a baffle in there either.

Any ideas on that though? It seems logical to me...

[binaryterror]

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[GoBigOrGoHome]

Nice lookin tank, man. Those close-ups make it look like the glass isn't siliconed at a 90 degree angle... more like 88. Illusion? Hope so. I'm lookin forward to seeing this one filled.

[binaryterror]

It does look like that but the camera kind of warps the picture.

Update wise, I bought some stain today and I am going to begin staining now so pics will be up tonight or tomorrow!

[primer7]

So much for taking pride in your work, they could have spent a little on attention to detail...good luck on the build.

[binaryterror]

I suppose I shouldn't have posted those pictures. I am very satisfied with glasscages and those pictures make it seem like they make shitty tanks when they don't. So please don't think that the tanks are crap because I support them 100% and love my new tank.

On topic: I have a bit of a problem... there is no way my small 10g sump will be able to handle the tank drainage in the case of a power outage. So the only other thing I can think of is use a big plastic container of some sort and wedge it in there and be sure that it can handle the overflow drainage. Can anyone else think of anything?!

[Snailpowered]

Good luck with gthe build I just finished my build of a GC tank. I wasnt totally impressed with the silicone job on mine either. Im sure your tank will look great! I wished i would have done a closed loop on mine like you have. Keep the pics comming!!

[edwing206]

You could looks for a high tank. Like a 20H. For the sump.

[binaryterror]

Hmm.. I will have to buy a taller tank for sure. Just I don't have that big of a space to fit it into the stand.

[binaryterror]

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[ludnix]

Pretty exciting! I love rimless tanks with a single pendant. It looks pretty sleek.

Maybe you could build a sump out of acrylic to accommodate your needs. Otherwise a 20H sounds good since it has the same footprint as the 10 gallon.

[CeeGee]

If that sticker says not to add water for 3 weeks I would wait 3 weeks. That company does not have the best track record and if anything goes wrong with that tank you are SOL from what I have read from others that have had problems with their products.

Looking good so far though!

[Anemonebuff]

I use a 20 high for my sump on my 125 and handles the drainage. You could also use check valves.

[binaryterror]

Here are some pics of the old rock I am drying out. What can I use to kill all the phosphates in the rock? I've heard of bleach and chlorine so far...

And the live sand in the bag I am not using as live sand. My friend gave it to me. I know it isn't live and I am still going to cycle.
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[binaryterror]

Any ideas on how to totally kill the rock?

[binaryterror]

Some pics of a little rockwork I tried today. I am just messing around with the rock I have and will most likely be adding another 30lbs.+ of bulkreefsupply base rock.

Also, I bought a new sump that will hopefully be able to handle the overflow in the event of a power outage. I just put the baffles in today as well.

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[binaryterror]

Well I talked to glasscages and where the paper said 3 weeks before you add water, it actually means you need to wait 3 weeks from the manufacture date. So that means I can add water this Wednsday! My stand is almost finished as well and pics will be posted asap!

[Capt_Cully]

That's really sharp!

Only caution I have is in the sump. I hope the return section is on the right. If it's on the left it's gonna run dry quickly. Just a tip, you may already have that covered, but I thought I'd pass on a rookie mistake i've made in the past.

Great looking tank and stand though. I LOVE cubes, AND, rimless reefs. Nice job!!!!

[binaryterror]

Well it is an external pump so shouldn't it balance itself out? If it pumps more water than it will get more water.

[binaryterror]

Yes? No?

[spleify]

Lookin good, can't wait to see it come together!

I am a big fan of cube's I have a 60 gal cube (http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1343381) myself.

Spleify

[binaryterror]

Yeah I have been following your thread for awhile now haha.

[Redbellyjx]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13495412#post13495412 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by binaryterror
Well it is an external pump so shouldn't it balance itself out? If it pumps more water than it will get more water.

I think his concern is with evaporation. it only looks like about a half gallon max in that section of the left. if thats your return section, that is the section that water evaporation will show itself, because its the lowest point in your tank. if you have an ATO, you should be fine; if not, you would need to top off everyday to prevent your pumps from runnign dry.

[binaryterror]

Well I thought if I keep the water halfway up the middle baffle, then won't the entire water level lower from evaporation?

[spleify]

binaryterror, where did you get the sump at? Did you make it yourself?

I think what these folks are referring to is most people use the baffles for dispersing bubbles and the baffles actually set the height of the water level.

If you can I would remove the baffles and set them up a little differently, like make a larger return section, and get baffles that will be a little taller to set the level of water. Check out my thread if you like to see how I did mine.

HTH

Spleify

[binaryterror]

Well I can always make the right chamber the return section with the skimmer. Then I would have the overflow drain into the right section.

[spleify]

Yes you could, I am just afraid that will defeat the purpose of the baffles.

It will still work, just not as efficiently as it possibly could. JMO

HTH

Spleify

[binaryterror]

Alright I think I am starting to understand. But what would happen if I put the pump in the right chamber? I guess I am not seeing how it would empty itself out.

[spleify]

Well, it wouldn't necessarily empty itself out per say. If you choose a level you want to maintain, taking into consideration the amount of water that will drain back out of the display when the pump turns off, you can target that level for top offs. You just won't be getting all of the benefit out of the baffles you have installed.

In a "conventional" sump the last chamber(return section) is where you will see you're evaporation from. For example, my sump is 20" tall, my baffles are 15" tall my return section is 15 X 15 X 8 so that is where I see my evaporation from.

In you're case you will have to fill the sump much higher than the baffles you have installed to get any kind of beneficial use out of you're sump(water volume).

How tall is the sump? How tall are you're baffles? It may help to take a look at a few different sumps to get an idea of what some other folks have done with there set ups.

I hope this helps and I hope it makes sense.

Spleify

[GoBigOrGoHome]

Yeah... if water has to overflow into the return section, that is the section that the water gets to last, and that water doesn't have to overflow to anywhere, because it is pumped up, so all evaporation is shown there. Are you still doing 2 separate tanks for sump/ fuge?? If so, AGA makes a 15 high that is the same footprint as the 10gal, just 6" higher.

[binaryterror]

The tank with the baffles is a 15g high, and I am still using a 10g as a refugium which will drain directly into the 15g.

[GoBigOrGoHome]

okay cool... thought it looked like one. about that "live rock". You might want to run it underwater with a ton of flow moving over it for a little while..... use just straight RO I would think, as that will do the best at dissolving whatever water-soluble organics and phosphates remain there. Maybe you would want to run a phophate reactor while you're doing this too?
Also, as much as that "live sand" may not be true live sand, it does have bacteria in it, and, IME, speeds the cycle along quite nicely.

[binaryterror]

Can I run it in fresh water? I have a 25g trach can filled with RO/DI water so I can stick it in there with some pumps. I want it all to die pretty much. I have been drying it out for about a week now.

[binaryterror]

My return pump finally arrived today so I can begin plumbing as soon as I get my sumps drilled!

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This is what I don't like... the output comes out at a slight angle. Why? I have no idea. It doesn't seem like it will be a problem, but it will be tricky for sure.

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[GoBigOrGoHome]

Yeah... if you don't care about anything living in the rock, if there is anything to begin with, go ahead and soak away in freshwater.
With regards to the pump:
1. those are great pumps.
2. When you mount it in your stand, put some shims under the side with the output. This will fix your output angle to straight up. I had the same thought on mine.

[binaryterror]

Alright I got the stand downstairs and put the tank on it. It looks great!

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Although I ran into a pretty big problem. The hole in the front of the stand isn't big enough to fit both of my sump tanks in there, and in my frenzy of trying to squeeze it in there I broke the 10g I was going to use as my refugium. So I have no idea how I am going to get them both in there...

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[binaryterror]

Would a 5g fuge be too small?

[binaryterror]

Well I have a spare 2.5g tank that fits in there perfectly right where I want it. Should I even bother with a 2.5g fuge? Will it even do anything on a 60g tank?

[spleify]

***EDITED***

I suppose it would be better than nothing.
I may suggest you try and find someone that can make you an acrylic one that is as big as possible.

I also have a 60 gal cube, and my sump/refugium is 30 gal.

I made my own acyrlic sump.

5 gallons is pretty small, but I guess it's better than nothing.

HTH

Spleify

[binaryterror]

Well would it be better than no fuge?

[binaryterror]

Ok then... I guess I will post an update.

I got a American DJ model-100A today.

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Here is my current setup under the tank. Nothing is final yet, as I still need to get opinions on the refugium.

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[binaryterror]

Anyone?

[spleify]

Sorry binary, I edited my last post on the previous page.

Yes, something is better than nothing.

The set up is looking good so far, just need to work on that filtration.

Spleify

[brian is cool]

cool tank man

[binaryterror]

Thanks

[GoBigOrGoHome]

Too bad that 10 doesn't fit down there... I'd hunt around to find something with the same footprint but a little taller or something.... that can be effective, but the margin for error on a 2.5 is just so little..

[cashman95]

Looking good....I am following this build, as I have been there done that!

Nice.....

Check out my build thread for some ideas that might help you!?!?!?!

Brian

[binaryterror]

Well I am still using the 15g tall tank as the main sump. And what I am going to do in place of the 2.5g fuge is baffle out a section of the 15g and have my fuge in there. That way I will have sufficient room for the pumps, as well as some room for my ATO tank.

And thanks cashman95. I have been following your thread for some time now!

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[binaryterror]

Well I have been working hard this morning to get some more stuff on the tank done. I powerwashed the dry rock I had. I will let that dry for awhile. I also recieved me diamond hole-saw in the mail today, so I might try a little drilling before I do it on the actual sump. Lastly, I got some acrylic at Lowes and cut a baffle out for the refugium section. That is already in place and drying as we speak.

And now, of course, some pics!

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[binaryterror]

Well I tried drilling a hold into the 15g sump and it cracked, so I got some help from a local reefer and he is building me a custom acrylic sump. So I am going to incorporate my fuge, skimmer, and return section all into the one sump and that will save me a ton of space under the stand for the ATO tank and the large external pumps.

I also got some locline and misc. parts from marinedepot today but my camera ram out of batteries so pics will be coming tonight!

This weekend I am also picking up the sump, so I will be sure to post pics when I get it back here. And once I finally have the sump I will begin to finally start plumbing! I doubt I will get water in it by the end of this weekend as I don't want to rush anything and want to make sure everything is done right the first time.

[GoBigOrGoHome]

wow that's rough. At least you'll get something that fits your needs a little bit better than the 15. I'm growing anxious to see this filled.. probably nothing compared to how you're feeling though...

[binaryterror]

Today I cut out the styrofoam under the tank to fit the bulkheads, and also fitted the bulkheads. It is looking good! I also took some pics of the misc. equipment I got from marinedepot today as well.

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Is it ok if I mount my pumps like this?
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[binaryterror]

Many thanks to DEERE G here on reefcentral for making me an awesome sump! It fits perfect and will do nicely.

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[slumpysix]

The foam you have used may crush over time. You should consider using "closed cell foam" which would hold up. You can locate it at any home depot. It's pink in color mostly and take a piece of yours with and compare. Just a thought...
Nice tank by the way... always fun to watch a build... :)

[binaryterror]

I'll look into that for sure. Thanks for the heads up.

With the skimmer though, you can kind of see in the picture above with my skimmer in the 15g tall. The neck with the union is so far below the rim of the tank that it seems like it is going to be a real pain to empty. Any ideas on what I can do?

[adtravels]

You really don't need a fuge under that tank, its too small to make much of a difference anyway and it will restrict your space when you decide on any upgrades but seeing that the sump has been made you may as well try it.
I went from a fuge to fugeless and put in a bigger skimmer I feel much happier now
before
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Now
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icould only fit a deltec mc500 before and it was not performing so well
I now have an octo extreme 160 and it pulls alot more crap with the same bioload

My tank is and sps dominated 60 cube like yours.

[binaryterror]

I have heard of people that had algea problems in their tanks for years and then they added a fuge and it all went away. That is why I put the fuge in there. But if I DON'T put a fuge in there I could always use that space for a phosban reactor and a carbon reactor maybe?

[adtravels]

I put a thread on the sps forum about succesful tanks that are fugeless and got a very positive response before I made the switch.
I was worried about

1. algae in the tank too
2. phosphate and nitrate
3. pH swings

The algae in my display has if anything been less, with a definate increase in coraline growth (may be due to the large skimmer)
The phosphate and nitrate are the same as before, zero I use prodibio boiclean and voka dosing (may also be due to the large skimmer)
Ph now swings from 7.9 to 8.3 which is more than acceptable (look at any of the totm or consult the reef chem forum)

I also have a much easier time cleaning the sump as all I do is siphon detritus every 2 weeks as opposed to scraping all sorts of algae that grew with the light in the sump, it keeps algae out of the inside of the skimmer too.

up to you the key is having a kick *** skimmer if you go this way, my display is also BB with two vortechs and a wavysea.

[cashman95]

binaryterror,

From my experience, I have to agree with adtravels on the fuge idea. The size of that fuge would be better for pod cultivation. If you have an algae problem, adding a fuge is only going to mask the problem. The macro algae feeds on phosphates that are in your system, but doesn't solve the problem. If you have a problem, it has been my experience that in the long run, solving the problem rather than masking it works better! Find out where you seem to be getting a phosphate build up...Food, Fish waste, etc, and go from there! I also have to agree with adtravels on the size of the skimmer.......go BIG as you can! Maybe even try an external recirculating for more room.

I was once a fuge person, jumping on the idea that it was the problem solver, but found out that the fuge was also a contributor to the problem, allowing the build up of detritus to accumulate in that area.

As a last note, and one that I think has attributed to a large success in keeping phosphate levels down, is to blow off the rocks in the display weekly and vacuuming the sump during water changes. The water I take out when doing a water change is dark brown due to the settlement in the sump! Btw using a small recirculating pump on the return will allow low flow thru the sump which helps allow detritus to settle and then be vacuumed out.

Good luck with the build!

[binaryterror]

Well the thing is I do somewhat want a pod cultivator since I plan on getting a Mandarin down the road. Plus, the section is already there. What else am I going to do with it? I can't take the baffle out because it's cemented in there permanently.

[adtravels]

don't worry go with it if you have spent the money.
5 gives you the opportunity to try it and the upgrade and we all love upgrading.

as I said up to you.

[binaryterror]

Well I started a little plumbing over the weekend. I began making a Durso standpipe and the overflow return. I am going to be plumbing the pumps this weekend hopefully. I will post pics of the Durso this afternoon.

[nikkipigtails]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13573831#post13573831 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by binaryterror
I'll look into that for sure. Thanks for the heads up.

With the skimmer though, you can kind of see in the picture above with my skimmer in the 15g tall. The neck with the union is so far below the rim of the tank that it seems like it is going to be a real pain to empty. Any ideas on what I can do?

Do you have enough room under your tank to add a drain bucket/container for your skimmer? I've seen them on the larger set-ups where, instead of having to take off 5 gallons worth of skimmate, they have what looks like a small hole in the side close to the bottom of the collection cup then airline tubing attached to the hole so the skimmate drains into a separate bucket on the floor. I'm sure you could come up with a mini-version of that under your tank if you have room. Maybe have it drain into a 1L water bottle or something. At least you wouldn't have to tip a full cup of skimmate and risk spilling it all over everything.

[binaryterror]

I will most likely have to do that. It would make it easier for sure.

[binaryterror]

My ATO came in today thanks to www.autotopoff.com along with the Aqualifter pump for it. I hope the Aqualifter is strong enough because I am going to set the ATO tank beside the DT stand. Anyway, here are some pics!

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/xonikcocker/IMG_0868.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/xonikcocker/IMG_0869.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/xonikcocker/IMG_0870.jpg



Oh, and here is the Durso I have been working on.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/xonikcocker/IMG_0867.jpg

[binaryterror]

Got alot of the plumbing shopping done today. I am sure I will need to go back but I got most of it for sure.

I also bought black PVC for the Durso standpip so I won't have to paint it anymore.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/xonikcocker/IMG_0872.jpg

[DEERE G]

Hello, The black pipe you have there is ABS. Are you going to slip fit the ABS into the PVC or thread it. The two do not glue/cement together properly. ( If that is what you are planning?) Everything seems to be going together well and looking good. If your plumbing job goes like mine , you will be going to the store again to buy some other fittings. lol Nice job. Keith

[binaryterror]

The only thing that the ABS will come in contact with that isn't ABS is the male thread->slip adapter. Plus this is for the Durso so I don't believe I even need to cement those 2 together since it isn't under any pressure.

EDIT: I noticed how alot of other people with PVC ball valves have red handles on them. I am wondering if the different colored handles mean anything?

[DEERE G]

That is true mine do just slip together right at the bulkhead. The valve handle does not determine anything IME. I noticed yours are diff. colors. Good to see you buying unions. I like to use them, they can make life easier in the future.

[binaryterror]

Yeah I will probably end up buying some more unions once I get the actual plumbing going and realize what I need to buy exactly.

[binaryterror]

I got almost all of the plumbing done under the tank and it is so crammed in there. There is little to no room left. Pics tonight

[binaryterror]

Alright I think I finally have the final layout for the plumbing. As you can see it is rediculously cluttered under there. I can't believe I thought I could fit a ATO tank in there!

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/xonikcocker/IMG_0881.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/xonikcocker/IMG_0879.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/xonikcocker/IMG_0880.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/xonikcocker/IMG_0883.jpg




Now, as you can see here the CL outlets are pretty large. I think this may be a problem actually. Does anyone have any better ideas to either make these smaller, or get a new fitting?

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/xonikcocker/IMG_0882.jpg

[nikkipigtails]

I know about tight plumbing...yours looks really good.
http://i26.*******.com/2r7tu9t.jpg

As far as the pvc fittings inside the tank, have you thought of using locline with a flare nozzle on the end? You may even be able to use a locline splitter (can't remember the actual name) so you can have 2 outputs per return and aim them where you want them.

[binaryterror]

I never thought of that because the Reeflo Snapper isn't pressure rated so I assumed that it would restrict the flow too much. Maybe I am wrong...?

[nikkipigtails]

I'm not sure if it would apply too much back pressure on the bottom of the tank. As far as restricting flow, with the locline, you can aim the nozzles where you want them so I don't think it would be too much of an issue. But that's just my opinion and it may just be an issue of trial and error.

[binaryterror]

I mean the locline only goes up to 3/4" and the output of the Snapper pump is 1.5", so I assumed it would restrict the flow alot. I am not worried about backpressure on the tank at all, that won't be a problem.

[nikkipigtails]

I have a Hammerhead and it has a 1.5" output and I have 3/4" pvc on the inside of my tank. IMO, it's a little too much flow out of the pvc but I also have 4 out puts. The good thing about the pvc is that it won't put as much back pressure on the pump so it'll last longer. The good thing about the locline is that you can hide it easier.

If you want to keep the pvc bc you're worried about restricting flow, use something to camoflauge the pvc.

What size are those BH's?

[binaryterror]

1.5" bulkheads. I am probably going to just get an adapter and use 3/4" locline.

[nikkipigtails]

sounds like a plan to me

[binaryterror]

Has anyone ever seen a 1.5" to 3/4" adapter with the 1.5" side being male and the 3/4" side being female? I am having the hardest time finding one.

[DEERE G]

You could buy a 1.5" plug then drill and tap the top for 3/4" NPT.

[DEERE G]

Forget that ^. You need Spears fitting 839-210 Reducer bushing thread x thread flush style. Spears.com