koralia dc's instead of tunze's for a diy wavebox?

[gotbags-10]

I wanted to try and build one of the diy waveboxes. The big thread on here uses the tunze's because they're dc pumps. But now seing that koralia has come out with their version I didn't know if it might be possible to use one of them seing the price is deffinately a little better. I guess the only difference i could see would be the controller. Not sure if the one that is being used for the tunze's would work the same. Any input?

[Saltcity]

Hydor Koralia has a wavemaker.....
http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_ViewItem~SearchStr~hd00588~action~view~idProduct~HD00588~idCategory~FIWMEW~category~Hydor_Koralia _Wavemaker_Controller_2_Way_Basic_Saltwater_Aquarium_Supplies_Wavemakers_External~vendor~.html

[silverwolf72]

It should work, being DC you should be able to make a controller for it with out to much work.

[gotbags-10]

do you think i could make something like the tunze controller from the other wavebox thread here?

[BL]

I built Wavebox using Resun WM 15000. The Resun WM 15000 Pump is DC 24 Volt. Even Resun Wavebox doesn't work as good as Tunze's but the cost is very cheap.
The Resun Wavebox Controller based on this Circuit Diagram. Peter Z Wavemaker Circuit Diagram (http://w3page.com/fishline/gif/wave.jpg)
This Controller has capability to handle 2 Wavebox but I built only one.

Here are the pictures and video.

Inside of Resun Wavebox Controller.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/BL5/150%20G%20SPS%20Tank/ResunWBController.jpg


Resun Wavebox Controller's running.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/BL5/150%20G%20SPS%20Tank/DIYResunWBControllerRunning.jpg


Resun Wavebox in Tank Display.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/BL5/150%20G%20SPS%20Tank/ResunWavebox.jpg


Wave in tank video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm2Gkaf8EP4)


BL.
Almost All DIY 180 G SPS Tank Photo Gallery (http://picasaweb.google.com/RimbuRS/AlmostAllDIY180GSPSTank#)

[EnderG60]

koralia's are 12v a/c not DC.

[laverda]

EnderG60 is correct. They are AC pumps.

[smells like fish]

BL, That's some nice aquascaping. Love the happy face LEDs. LOL!
Thanks for sharing the video.

[titoreefs]

Thats exelent work you did there!!!

Can you provide more detail pics and info with the prosses of making the controller and a list of materials?

I also have those same WM and would love to put them on the operating table but sinse im NOT electrically inclined unfortunetly I cant read the schematics you provided :( :(

Sorry for my lack of knolege :confused:

And great job!

[jbarnaby]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13583787#post13583787 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by EnderG60
koralia's are 12v a/c not DC.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13587591#post13587591 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by laverda
EnderG60 is correct. They are AC pumps.

Actually you are both wrong. The new Koralia 12V pumps are 12V DC according to the manufacturer. Of course the manufacturer also says they will also just work with thier controller as well....I don't have any experience with these low power models but they really do look very efficient in thier energy usage...

These are the 12V Koralia's - http://www.hydor.it/prodotti/show?famprod=32

[stugray]

jbarnaby,

I have read that very wesite over&over.

Nowhere does it specify AC vs DC.

There have been many debates, but no-one that actually HAS one will put a DVM on it.

Stu

[tarzan]

Here (http://www.3reef.com/forums/filters-etc/hydor-koralia-12v-dc-alternate-power-source-49492.html) someone stated that it's a DC pump... I guess it makes sense.

If just somebody that owns one of the Koralia's wavemakers would connect one of the outputs to an oscilloscope, than we wouldn't have to wonder any more :D

[jbarnaby]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13594222#post13594222 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by stugray
jbarnaby,

I have read that very wesite over&over.

Nowhere does it specify AC vs DC.

There have been many debates, but no-one that actually HAS one will put a DVM on it.

Stu

I know I read it too...so I emailed them and asked that exact question...is it 12V AC or 12V DC and they specifically said that it was 12V DC....but they also said thier controller is the only way these will work as well...

Jeff

[EnderG60]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13597252#post13597252 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jbarnaby
I know I read it too...so I emailed them and asked that exact question...is it 12V AC or 12V DC and they specifically said that it was 12V DC....but they also said thier controller is the only way these will work as well...

Jeff

one of those is not true.

will someone just hook one up to a damn 12vDC power supply and see if it moves already.

[mabviper]

They are AC pumps. When they first came out, there was a thread about them being ac or dc. Somebody can probably search it in the forums but alas, I can't.

The cost of the controller indicates that it is an AC pump. As we know, controlling a DC pump is very simple, vary the duty cycle and you're good to go. Controlling an AC pump, however, requires you to have a variable frequency drive and those aren't cheap. Hence the high cost of Koralia controller.

I'm sure somebody did a test here; Plugged it into a 12v dc supply and it just clicked. Just search the forum ^^.

nm, i found the link.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1361588&perpage=25&pagenumber=4

[gotbags-10]

yeah mabviper i was reading tha tthread to. It seems the few who own them have plugged them into a 12vot supply and it did nothing but clicked a little. But there was one guy who lived in another country who said that his was in fact dc doing the same test, they were wondering if koralia just didnt' release the dc versions in the US yet (if ever). So they do exist just not here. Bummer!!!!!

[funbag]

The New Koralia Wavemaker is 12V "50Hz" AC Motor. With 12V "60Hz" AC power supply it may not spin properly.

[ransomed4ever]

Anybody ver try the resun pumps sold on ebay. I see they are dc and you have to get them from overseas, but they are a lot less expensive than tunzes.