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belgian_waffleman
10/31/2008, 08:43 AM
Question and caution

I have small piece on an Aussie alien eye favia ( 5or 6 eyes) and I have this laying loose on a rock. For some reason it got blown over onto my war coral and killed 3/4 of that .

So, I decided to move the favia where is is a little more secure. No one of the fish must not have liked it there and flicked it of the rocks.
It landed against one of my Japanese Dendro polyps and instantly killed it. The polyp, including it's base are now white. :mad2:

The question is, do people glue there frags down, so this can't happen? What do you do during the acclimation period?

Also I want the word at there that these favias are real stingers.


Waffleman

kpendarvis
10/31/2008, 09:10 AM
You can glue frags to a small rock with gel super glue so they won't turn over. Best done out of water. And on frags with no artificial base.
Or you can use the reef puffy stuff which hardens underwater. That is my favorite for large pieces or frags with the conical bases.
For small things like favia, as soon as I receive them in the mail, I immediately glue or putty each to a rock about the size of a gold ball. Now they can acclimate without being turned over or tossed around by crabs and snails.

natan
10/31/2008, 09:32 AM
I glue mine to a heavy and not so small flat limesone rock. This way nothing of that nature should happen.

crvz
10/31/2008, 09:43 AM
I glue smaller frags in place, absolutely. There's way to much that can move them around, and too many times I've come in and seen some new prized piece upside down on the floor of the tank or leaning against a more potent/damaging coral.

kev apsley
10/31/2008, 11:43 AM
yes glue favia down and chalice are killers as well, glue them down and then you can move them later if you need to find a better spot, also, give tme at least 3-4" all around, their sweepers are very long

Sheol
10/31/2008, 07:18 PM
Many corals will kill others, if they can. favia are rough, but others are real killers. Acans can kill also..

Matthew

belgian_waffleman
10/31/2008, 10:41 PM
Thanks for the feedback everyone.

I placed the favia in the sand for now, gatto get me more superglue gel so that I can glue these bad boys to rocks:D

Waffleman

crvz
11/01/2008, 12:17 AM
My wife is always harassing me when I buy superglue at the grocery store. She's sure I buy it everytime I shop (which is most of the time, so really she shouldnt be complaining I suppose ;)).

Canarygirl
11/03/2008, 08:46 PM
you can use the reef puffy stuff which hardens underwater

are you talking about underwater epoxy? The two part stuff that you mix together?

belgian_waffleman
11/03/2008, 11:06 PM
I would think that, that is what Kpendarvis means.
There are a couple different brands for the putty.
I have used the D&D aquatics epoxy or Holdfast. These are all 2 part stuff and all of these harden over time under water

Waffleman

RokleM
11/04/2008, 09:32 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13675659#post13675659 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Canarygirl
are you talking about underwater epoxy? The two part stuff that you mix together?

There are numerous brands that can be used, but here (http://phishybusiness.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=183&products_id=715) is an example.

MrGoodKat00
11/04/2008, 12:03 PM
I would use glue over the expoxy.

oddballs
11/04/2008, 05:37 PM
As to using the glue over the epoxy,a lot of the time frags/corals are to lg to be secured with glue alone .I have found that the super glue gel and the 2 part used together work really well.

belgian_waffleman
11/04/2008, 11:44 PM
I agree with oddballs.

With the putty, you can sculpt a bit as well.
a lot of lps's are encrusting it is a lot easier to transition from one surface to another if there is no gap or jagged edge. This can be easily accomplished using the putty.

m2c
Waffleman

sutec13
11/09/2008, 02:26 AM
I have a couple of these frag stations. They don't accomodate all plug sizes BUT for plugs that fit, it locks them in so inverts/fish can't move them and you can still pull them out and move them.

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=18976

JenDub
11/09/2008, 09:05 AM
As a general rule. any time 2 corals of different species touch someone is gonna get hurt; that's how new reefs are formed and new real estate is claimed in a crowded & competitive habitat

belgian_waffleman
11/09/2008, 05:54 PM
all my frags are now glued down and nicely spread out so that this won't happen again (hopefully)
On a positive note, my Japanese dendro polyp is coming back. The base is starting to get it's color back and I have about a 1/4 of the polyp that shows a little extension.

Waffleman

Sheol
11/09/2008, 09:12 PM
Ditto on glue, I tried that double bind epoxy. Stuff was useless. Of course, even with glue, my Killer Clownfish knocked a fair sized Platygyra off the LR..

Matthew

RokleM
11/10/2008, 09:29 AM
A lot of people when using epoxy use the glue/epoxy/glue method. It works VERY well.