My 300 Gallon Half Hexagon Reef Tank Build!

[BILLYO382]

Well ladies and gents as far as some you may now and see I did go ahead and purchase the 300 Gallon X petco koi pond tank. I have leak tested it and it holds water great. However in lifting the tank off the stand I was surprised to see that the base is only a eurathane plastic material very flimbsy in appearance that holds the water on the bottom. The tank itself is glass on 6 sides with a rimless top and plastic bottom, just look at the pict's I provided. But back to what I was saying about the bottom of the tank. It is really odd, but it is braced like 2 " around the bottom with glass and the rest is the plastic base. So if the bottom gets cut or cracks thats it. Ive never seen a tank made like this before. But it holds water fine, so Im going to be cautious in installing it in the house and putting a deep sand bed inbetween the rocks and sand, lol. But the bottom was like hot glued to the base of the stand that it was resting on, no foam or anything inbetween, just the 1/8" thick plastic bottom, lol. And the stand was very flimbsy looking but surprissingly sturdy and strong. Essentially is was made out of all 3/4 plywood with a few 2 x 4's. Anyhow my stand is going to be overbuilt like I did on my last build for my 270 tall reef tank I had. The tank dimesions itself are 94.125" long x 38" wide x 21" tall. Anyhow Ill post a few prelim veiws of the stand I have in mind and you guys let me know if you think I should add or take away any bracing. Also let me know if youve seen a tank built like this one before and how the rested on the stand, etc. Thanks in advance for all of your comments and help. Please refrain from any flaming or chastising in this build thread. Thanks :strooper:

A couple pictures of the tank & leak testing it.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/ICEMAN330824/11012008085.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/ICEMAN330824/11012008086.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/ICEMAN330824/2-2.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/ICEMAN330824/11052008100.jpg

[BILLYO382]

old stand that im scrapping. :rollface: Notice how weak looking it is with the bracing made of 3/4 plywood and small pieces of 2 x 4's only on the sides. its a wonder how the tank shear weight didnt collapse this weak looking stand. Wood stregth is somthing else. Wait until I build my overbuilt stand. lol

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/ICEMAN330824/11052008096.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/ICEMAN330824/11052008098.jpg

My Best picture of the tank thus far, is of my Mermaid & future wife

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/ICEMAN330824/11012008082.jpg:strooper:

[burky_tc]

Looks like it should be a pretty nice tank to start with. Hopefully that bottom holds up..never really seen or heard of anything like it. Just curious how you got this from Petco? Going out of business or what?

[BILLYO382]

My stand ideas

I pland onbuild a 2 x 8 platform for the stand to rest on to give me a taller stand height. The reason I have to build this 8" base is because my door limits me to 35" opening to get the sand thru. So my stand will be 34" and base will be 8" givning me a total height of 42" tall stand. Just look at some of my prelim ideas in my 3D models.

Tank, Stand and Base
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/ICEMAN330824/T1.jpg

Stand (Made of 4 x 4 and 2 x 4)
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/ICEMAN330824/T2-1.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/ICEMAN330824/T5.jpg

Base (Made of 2 x 8)
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/ICEMAN330824/T3.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/ICEMAN330824/T4.jpg

Please lend me all of your experince and suggestions in whether or not my tank stand and base with have sufficent lateral and vertical support, etc. Also please note that the entire thing will be covered in 3/4" plywood with door access, etc. Thanks in advance again for your tips and help. :bum:

[BILLYO382]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13692895#post13692895 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by burky_tc
Looks like it should be a pretty nice tank to start with. Hopefully that bottom holds up..never really seen or heard of anything like it. Just curious how you got this from Petco? Going out of business or what?

I bought the tank from a guy that worked there for get this $400 lol. Too good a deal to pass up for a tank that size reef ready and closed loop drilled. :lol: But thanks

[RocketEngineer]

BILLYO382,

I have two issues with your stand design and a suggestion.

My first issue is that the load path for the weight of the stand is through the screws, not the wood. If you look here (http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1169964) you will note that the legs of the stand are directly between the top and bottom frames of the stand. This means that the tank load travels through the top frame, down the leg, and into the bottom frame with the screws only serving to hold everything in place.

Second issue is the idea of using 2X4's for the top frame. Due to the lengths involved, you may want to consider going up to 2X6s or 2X8s in order to keep the bottom from deflecting. The stiffer the top frame, the less likely you are to have bottom deflection issues. Along the same lines a nice thick sheet of plywood on top wouldn't be a bad idea.

My suggestion is to not build an 8" riser but to instead, assemble the stand in place. Cut and dry fit all of the pieces in the garage / workshop / driveway. Once everything fits, take the legs out of the structure and carry the top and bottom frames inside separated. Then put the legs back in and you should be good to go. This way you don't have to worry about lining the two frames up perfectly to one another.

Just my thoughts on the subject.

[Owen28GT]

What I want to know is, where can I get one of those particular Mermaids?

[dismalorb]

Nice Dutch Aquarium Systems tank! I bought a used 180 (same type of flat-back hex, just smaller) for $500 off Craig's List a few years back. You got that one for a STEAL! Those aren't cheap tanks by any means, just try to not sniff the wood trim on the bottom after a while... MAN it'll reek!

I'm excited to see how this one goes.

Cheers to ya!

[dustin273]

That looks like a pretty stout stand. I just finished building my stand on Sat. for my 400g glass tank, but it's not even close to as stout as yours. I was told by many people the stand I built was overkill?!?!? I'm about to post a thread to see what others think. If mines overkill your design should be fine.

Here's some pics of mine. Let me know you're thoughts.

http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq30/dustin273/PB060321-1.jpg

http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq30/dustin273/PB060324-1.jpg

http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq30/dustin273/PB060322-1.jpg

[dismalorb]

heh. You're dealing with over a ton of weight... I don't really think you can go overkill when it comes to protecting that investment. :)

[dismalorb]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13692896#post13692896 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by BILLYO382
My stand ideas

I pland onbuild a 2 x 8 platform for the stand to rest on to give me a taller stand height. The reason I have to build this 8" base is because my door limits me to 35" opening to get the sand thru. So my stand will be 34" and base will be 8" givning me a total height of 42" tall stand. Just look at some of my prelim ideas in my 3D models.

Please lend me all of your experince and suggestions in whether or not my tank stand and base with have sufficent lateral and vertical support, etc. Also please note that the entire thing will be covered in 3/4" plywood with door access, etc. Thanks in advance again for your tips and help. :bum:

I just had a 450g acrylic built through Envision, and my suggestion would be to have a nice steel stand (with powder coating or rhinolining) made. With all that saltwater you're bound to have some spills, and you wouldn't want a wooden stand to rot. :)

[dustin273]

Very true...however my equipment will not be going under the cabinet ,so I won't be spilling to much water other than what come off my hands. Well, a steel stand is probably much stronger, but i already have the wood stand finished.

[BILLYO382]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13693524#post13693524 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RocketEngineer
BILLYO382,

I have two issues with your stand design and a suggestion.

My first issue is that the load path for the weight of the stand is through the screws, not the wood. If you look here (http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1169964) you will note that the legs of the stand are directly between the top and bottom frames of the stand. This means that the tank load travels through the top frame, down the leg, and into the bottom frame with the screws only serving to hold everything in place.

-----------------------------------MY answer------------------------
I understand you point and dealt with this same issue on my previous build of a 270 tall tank that had a stand footprint of 6' long x 2'wide x 3' tall. I built the stand 42" tall out of 2x8 and 4 x 4 the same exact way I have above with the screws carrying the load, I just didnt have a center 4 x 4 beam in the middle of the stand like I do on this one. But needless to say that stand was overbuilt but It held up fine for a year, now is bieng used by a guy i sold the tank to. Anyhow I understand your point and considered notching the 4 x 4 to accept the 2 x 4 but I thought it would be to much work and morw than enough. Im just unconforable with the overall shape of the tank thats why Ive added that center 4 x 4. However I respect you opinion. But for a example look at the skimpy stand that was holding the tank for years above in the pict's I posted. :lol:

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Second issue is the idea of using 2X4's for the top frame. Due to the lengths involved, you may want to consider going up to 2X6s or 2X8s in order to keep the bottom from deflecting. The stiffer the top frame, the less likely you are to have bottom deflection issues. Along the same lines a nice thick sheet of plywood on top wouldn't be a bad idea.

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Here again I understand your point but, I think that with the way I have the 4 x 4's spaced the load should be carried evenly and not be deflected to snap the 2 x 4's. The main reason I went with 2 x 4 is because I want to have as much room under the stand as possible right now it is about 26" inside hieght room for skimmer and sump etc. Also I would go with a 3/4" sheet of plywood for the skin and base for this stand I thought that would be thick enough.
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My suggestion is to not build an 8" riser but to instead, assemble the stand in place. Cut and dry fit all of the pieces in the garage / workshop / driveway. Once everything fits, take the legs out of the structure and carry the top and bottom frames inside separated. Then put the legs back in and you should be good to go. This way you don't have to worry about lining the two frames up perfectly to one another.

------------------------My answer---------------------------
I understand your point here to. The reason I want to build the two, base and stand is so when I move it will be a easy and quick removale and setup again. I will be screwing or bolting the stand to the base, and am not conserned with linig it up exactly as I will be able to just fine.
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Just my thoughts on the subject.

Thanks for all your thought and ideas..BTW your build post of a stand is quite good and helpful.

[BILLYO382]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13693612#post13693612 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Owen28GT
What I want to know is, where can I get one of those particular Mermaids?

Sorry bro. Ive known mine since high school. lol. So I dont know where to begin to tell you to look. I guess the mall, pool hall, movie, church. Where ever you see a pretty one snatch'em up before the next guy. lol :bum:

[BILLYO382]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13693673#post13693673 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dustin273
[B]That looks like a pretty stout stand. I just finished building my stand on Sat. for my 400g glass tank, but it's not even close to as stout as yours. I was told by many people the stand I built was overkill?!?!? I'm about to post a thread to see what others think. If mines overkill your design should be fine.

I think your stand looks really professional. I agree if they say your stand is overbuilt then i know mine will be, lol. It looks like you used all 2 x 4's, im just too scary to risk it. But you stand exterior looks real professional. I like it. :eek2:

[BILLYO382]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13693778#post13693778 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dismalorb
I just had a 450g acrylic built through Envision, and my suggestion would be to have a nice steel stand (with powder coating or rhinolining) made. With all that saltwater you're bound to have some spills, and you wouldn't want a wooden stand to rot. :)

Yeah I had a steel stand quoted out, but steel is real expensive now adays, so Im going with the wooden stand, besides I built a wooden stand similar to this one for my 270 I used to have and it worked out great.

[dustin273]

THX!

I wish I would have known about this site prior to building my stand...I may have designed it different?? Who knows?!?!

[Bax]

I have little to add except, that, is an awesome tank!

[BILLYO382]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13695176#post13695176 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Bax
I have little to add except, that, is an awesome tank!

LOL. Thanks for the compliment. :cool:

[BILLYO382]

Ok I think I have come up with my final tank stand design. Main change between this one and last is i remove the center 4 x 4 and added a groove piece to brace inbetween the front and back of the stand to carry the middle load evenly. Also I added alot of cross braces to help dispurse the load to the 4 x 4's from the 2 x 4's. I think that the 4 x 4's will carry all of the load to the ground and the 2 x 4's will just spread out and balance the weight and will be fine. Please still let me know your opions but I think im set on this design.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/ICEMAN330824/T.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/ICEMAN330824/T1-5.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/ICEMAN330824/T2-5.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/ICEMAN330824/T5-2.jpg

[BILLYO382]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13752474#post13752474 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SexyReef
nice tank!!

Thanks. Let me know what you think of my build so far. IM updating the post below. thanks again

[BILLYO382]

Hi ladies and gents, Im just updating my progress a little with some work ive been doing on the stand and base for the stand. I changed up my design a little from the cad plans above with some of the bracing but the stand and base are both really stout. See the pictures below. I have to take some more pictures of them together, b/c Ive added the exterior skin and doors and trim. Im now sanding the stand and prepaing to stain it. I also purchased a 75 gallon All Glass Tank that I will be using as a sump and I purchased a skimmer that I should have by friday. I just need to buy a couple pumps and plumbing stuff and im good to go.

P.s-Just wondering if anyone knew if I could drill a all glass 75 Gallon tank or if they were temperd glass. thanks in advance.


TOP OF STAND

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/ICEMAN330824/11212008116.jpg

BOTTOM OF STAND

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/ICEMAN330824/11212008110.jpg

BOTTOM OF BASE FOR STAND

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/ICEMAN330824/11212008120.jpg

Skimmer to be here by Friday. Same as the MRC-2.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/ICEMAN330824/234c_1.jpg

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[Shekki]

You should add 2x4's to the 4x4's so the top frame rests on the 2x4's. As it is now, all the weight is distributed over a handful of screws.

[BILLYO382]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13868136#post13868136 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Shekki
You should add 2x4's to the 4x4's so the top frame rests on the 2x4's. As it is now, all the weight is distributed over a handful of screws.

A handful of screws? LOL. try 3 boxes of screws, lol. But I thought about what your saying. However since Ive added the exterior skin, doors, and trimmed out the whole thing. I would have to add them to the inside of the 4x4's only because the outsides are covered by the plywood skin. I have to post more pictures, but I will consider your idea. The stand is still over built I think. I built a 270 Gal stand the same way with wieght on the screws and not how your suggesting, but I might just spring for a couple more 2x4s and reinforce the inside of the 4x4s. thanks

[BILLYO382]

P.S.-before any flaming starts on my stand construction, please realize I am not a CARPENTER nor do I pretend to be. lol. SO take it easy on my stand. thanks

[xXReefXx]

very nice!!

[FL.Joe]

whats up, i just caught up with your thread. everything looks cool, are you planning a mix reef?

[birdman1979]

Instead of those skinny screws, have you thought about using some grade 8 lag bolts? I've used them for load bearing, and they are MUCH sturdier those screws you are using. They look like giant screws you turn into the wood using a wrench. You would have to pre drill a hole though.

[BILLYO382]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13887155#post13887155 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by FL.Joe
whats up, i just caught up with your thread. everything looks cool, are you planning a mix reef?

Ya, Im planning a sps anf lps mixed reef with a variety of fish. Thanks for checking out my post.

[BILLYO382]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13887200#post13887200 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by birdman1979
Instead of those skinny screws, have you thought about using some grade 8 lag bolts? I've used them for load bearing, and they are MUCH sturdier those screws you are using. They look like giant screws you turn into the wood using a wrench. You would have to pre drill a hole though.

No, I havn't thought of that but it would've been ok, just more work, lol. I reinforced the stand like a member suggested by adding 2x4's to the inside so that the screws aren't carrying the load alone. I'll post pictures below of the modifcations to the stand. thanks though.

[BILLYO382]

Here are some update photo's of the stand and base, the skimmer and 75 gallon sump, and where the tank will sit in my living room.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/ICEMAN330824/12052008129.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/ICEMAN330824/12052008132.jpg

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[klondike4001]

Looking good so far, keep it up.

[crvz]

Looks good indeed. Did you say what you plan on keeping in it? What are the long-range livestock goals?

[8BALL_99]

That will be pretty slick tank.. I like the shape. I'm very glad you added the 2x4s. Doesn't matter now but you would have been better off just using two 2x4s for the posts and cutting one short so the top frame would sit on it. I'd never trust screws to hold that top frame. Even more so since you said the bottom of the tank seems a little flimsy. At anyrate between the added 2x on the inside and the plywood outside it should be fine now.

[BILLYO382]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13899288#post13899288 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by crvz
Looks good indeed. Did you say what you plan on keeping in it? What are the long-range livestock goals?

Thanks. I want a mixed reef, with lps and sps with a varitey of tangs, and other various reef safe fish. No sure on a exact list yet but i'll get back to you on that one. lol.

[Gdubb]

Followed the link from MARSH, nice tank!! Going to be tagging along

Its going to be sweet in the living room.

I want to do a 300 marineland series tank in my livingroom as well

[sfsuphysics]

Pretty damn snazzy for not being a carpenter.

I'll add to the "I wouldn't....." with the whole placement of load, but it's your tank man, and at the very least it looks pretty :D

[mtome]

Great looking stand. Can't wait to see more........

[BILLYO382]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13902159#post13902159 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Gdubb
Followed the link from MARSH, nice tank!! Going to be tagging along

Its going to be sweet in the living room.

I want to do a 300 marineland series tank in my livingroom as well

Thanks for stopping by from Marsch I really appreciate it as im looking to make new friends in the club since im a new member.

[BILLYO382]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13902292#post13902292 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sfsuphysics
Pretty damn snazzy for not being a carpenter.

I'll add to the "I wouldn't....." with the whole placement of load, but it's your tank man, and at the very least it looks pretty :D

lol. thanks :strooper:

[BILLYO382]

Well I moved the stand into the house yesterday, even though my significant other didnt want me to, lol. But she was happy to get back the parking spot in the garage, lol. Anyhow moving on along. I had to take the front door off because it was too wide, but it came thru with a little rubbing and loving.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/ICEMAN330824/image004.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/ICEMAN330824/image005.jpg

Here's two sneak peak picts of the tank on the stand, the tank is sitting on a blancket I found lying around until I go buy some foam. Anyhow just seeing how its gonna look in its new home.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/ICEMAN330824/image003.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n317/ICEMAN330824/image002.jpg

P.s- Im gonna move the clock to the right over the TV to make sure no salt creep slowly kills it. Lol :lol:

[SnMan]

Any ideas on what you are going to use as far as lighting? Followed the MARSH link also.

[mcliffy2]

Looks very cool...the carpentry is quite good, wouldn't have known you were an amateur....

One suggestion - you should probably look into upgrading the skimmer, especially since you indicate you want to keep SPS, that skimmer is WAY undersized for a 300g tank.

[RayAllen]

Very nicely done.

[JStorey]

You're going to need a bigger TV now to match the tank! lol

[BILLYO382]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13913473#post13913473 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SnMan
Any ideas on what you are going to use as far as lighting? Followed the MARSH link also.

Im thinking about going with two 36" fixtures (600watts) a piece, and suspending them from the ceiling. I want two as to space them apart from each other to better cover the tank. Each fixture will have two halides and 4 t-5's and 2 sets of lunar leds. thanks for asking I shoukld have said that earlier in the post, lol. Oh and thanks for coming in from marsh, glad to be apart again. Looking forward to meeting and greeting with you and everyone else at our next meeting.

[46bfinGA]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13913835#post13913835 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JStorey
You're going to need a bigger TV now to match the tank! lol

I was thinking the same thing. Time to Upgrade!

[BILLYO382]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13913596#post13913596 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mcliffy2
Looks very cool...the carpentry is quite good, wouldn't have known you were an amateur....

I thank you for your kind words. lol

One suggestion - you should probably look into upgrading the skimmer, especially since you indicate you want to keep SPS, that skimmer is WAY undersized for a 300g tank.

Ok, I will but I thought what I had would be sufficient, this skimmer is Identically built like the mrc mr-2 skimmer and the guy i bought it from had it on his 300 before he broke it down and it ran like a champ. But I'll look into a bigger skimmer. Thanks

BTW- heres a link for the skimmer im comparing it to. check it out

MRC MR-2 Skimmer (http://www.championlighting.com/product.php?productid=21009&cat=646&page=1)

[BILLYO382]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13913611#post13913611 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RayAllen
Very nicely done.

Thanks for the compliment. My head keeps getting bigger and bigger every time somone gives me one on the tank stand and build thus far. lol :smokin: :rollface: :strooper:

[Kreeger1]

You used treated lumber??? Thats a major no no. Treated lumber will shrink over time plus its treated with copper. I would pull those 4x4's and use cedar ones. Or start over IMO sorry to be a downer, giving good advice sometimes sucks to hear
Erik

[BILLYO382]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13913835#post13913835 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JStorey
You're going to need a bigger TV now to match the tank! lol

LOL. You know this is quite funny that you mention that. My girlfriend said the same exact thing as soon as I put the tank on the stand. She said wow, thats bigger than I thought it would be, you can even see the TV anymore, b/c your focuss is drawn to the tank. All I could do is smile and nod my head yea, your right, lol. :rollface: Well I guess I move the 42" LG into my master bedroom and get a 52" or 60" LCD, lol. Just another reason to upgrade TV's , lol :bum:

[BILLYO382]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13913936#post13913936 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Kreeger1
You used treated lumber??? Thats a major no no. Treated lumber will shrink over time plus its treated with copper. I would pull those 4x4's and use cedar ones. Or start over IMO sorry to be a downer, giving good advice sometimes sucks to hear
Erik

Thanks for the suggestion or late bad news advice, lol. :lol: But I have used treated 4 x 4's on all my previous tank builds (i.e.-110, 135, & a 270) and had them set up for a year plus each with not one failure problem or copper chemical realease agent problem, so I'll bite that bullet. Hopefully nothing happens but God forbid in five-ten years if it does I wont be mad at you for jumping in and saying I told you so. :rollface:

[RayAllen]

LOL, I guess you did use treated lumber. It will shrink up some but with the plywood casing and all the other support Im not sure if it will really effect anything in a negative way. I would paint the entire inside of the stand with a good primer though.

[BILLYO382]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13913991#post13913991 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RayAllen
LOL, I guess you did use treated lumber. It will shrink up some but with the plywood casing and all the other support Im not sure if it will really effect anything in a negative way. I would paint the entire inside of the stand with a good primer though.

Hey dont forget about the 2x4 castings inside the 4x4 for supprot to, lol. :D It took me 30min to cut and add those to the stand. lol. But seriously yea I did think about painting the entire inside with a primer or somthing to waterproof it.

[screwsloose]

just found your thread and i recall reading it a couple months ago and seeing your mermaid lol. so wheres the new tank going? next to this one?

[BILLYO382]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13922510#post13922510 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by screwsloose
just found your thread and i recall reading it a couple months ago and seeing your mermaid lol. so wheres the new tank going? next to this one?

Yes, not decided yet, lol.