Started Brightwells Neo-Zeo Today

[plyle02]

I have been running prodibio, but the lfs just received the full line-up, so I dumped the active carbon in the phosban reactor and replaced with the Neo-Zeo media. This tank has just been established, brand new. All the corals moved from a previously established tank, so I thought I would create a thread to document my results. The only upcoming change is to replace the 10k bulb with a phoenix 14k bulb in my aquamedic 250 watt pendant. Anyway, here is my starting point, a FTS, notice how ****ed my corals are right now, all browned out......

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp331/plyle02/DSC01175.jpg http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp331/plyle02/DSC01174.jpg

[arre]

nice rock work

[plyle02]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13696094#post13696094 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by arre
nice rock work

Thanks,
shallow tank, not many options....

So I have dosed the Microbacter, and will start dosing the Bio-Fuel in about 2 weeks, depending on tested nutrient levels. I also purchased the Restor, Replinish, Koral Color, and Aminos. I will also continue to use Zeo-Sponge Power, and Coral Snow. I have been using voka in combination with the zeo products, aminos, and the full prodibio system. I must admit that my previous tank was starting to show very nice colors, but since this tank is new, I decided to give the Brighwell products a shot.........

[docalatamu]

sweet, I didn't even know Brightwell had any AA products out

[DesigDiver]

theres a dedicated thread on NeoZeo already...go back a page or so...i also started a 120 recently and it is running the NeoZeo so it would be interesting to see your results..

[Todd March]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13696935#post13696935 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by docalatamu
sweet, I didn't even know Brightwell had any AA products out

Oh yeah, of course! If there is any sort of aquaria supplement or original chemical system on the market that works, Brightwell's gunna copy it and rush there version to market, rest assured!

[CHUBAKAH]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13698183#post13698183 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Todd March
Oh yeah, of course! If there is any sort of aquaria supplement or original chemical system on the market that works, Brightwell's gunna copy it and rush there version to market, rest assured!
Well at least he wasn't as fast as Prodibio, or Fauna Marin.
Of course you won't point those guys out right?
:rolleyes:

To the original thread starter, I am in my ninth or tenth week. My results have been outstanding to say the least.

I met and had the chance to speak to Chris Brightwell last Sunday for about 45 minutes before our club meeting. I'm going to post some of my notes in the other thread we have going, which should help everyone in starting, and maintaining this system.

Best of luck!

[am3gross]

yes and keep the pics coming! i want to see the progress!

[Paulairduck]

That cube is sweet, Is that 3/4 inch acrylic?

Take it slow, the corals, are already stressed.

[plyle02]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13705337#post13705337 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Paulairduck
That cube is sweet, Is that 3/4 inch acrylic?

Take it slow, the corals, are already stressed.

Actually 1' thick acrylic....lol.... It is really a tank, no pun intended.....

As far as going slow, I added the media to a reactor, got it going, and already see positive signs, as far as polyp extension go. I am using only the bacter product and the media at this point. Nothing to really update at this point, I am in to day 3 now, I am seeing corals that were stressed coming back though....

[NaH2Ofreak]

Are you seeing any ABNORMAL brown algae growth? Diatom increase?

Dennis

[jjoos99]

How is neo better then dosing vodka and adding the aminos. sounds as if there are alot of different products to add once this is up and running.
Thanks
Jeff

[plyle02]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13708780#post13708780 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NaH2Ofreak
Are you seeing any ABNORMAL brown algae growth? Diatom increase?

Dennis

No algae in sight, only 4 days in now, have not see anything abnormal yet, I do see the corals getting lighter tissue coloration...

[plyle02]

lol.....I posted 1' acrylic, I meant my tank is 1" acylic... Thought I would point it out before anyone else had the chance......

[CHUBAKAH]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13708780#post13708780 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NaH2Ofreak
Are you seeing any ABNORMAL brown algae growth? Diatom increase?

Dennis
I posted the answers to that. and some other questions here (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1467662)

[NaH2Ofreak]

CHUBAKAH, how exactly do YOU know what is growing or not growing in plyle02's tank? I asked HIM....the answer to my question is not in YOUR link. Chill out! You're running all over this board trying to defend Brightwell NeoZeo when Brightwell Neozeo dosent need any defending. It's a new method that people are discussing. There is no need to field and defend every question/comment about it that you percieve to be be negative. Relax brother!

Dennis

[plyle02]

OK,
to get on track, so everyone stays in the right frame of mind.... I am merely creating a thread to document my findings, test results, experiences, etc... I know about the other thread, I find the knowledge, experiences, data, and shared information quite valuable. I wish to share my results, and if anyone is inerested in sharing info, thoughts, opinions or whatever, it's cool.... I will be running the system exactly as outlined in the directions with the exception of restor, mainly due to the corals adjusting to fragmentation, my new tank, and lighting. Thanks......

[NaH2Ofreak]

I apologize for interrupting your thread plyle and appreciate you sharing your experience. I think this is a very promising system and love the fact that it is a fraction of the cost of the competition. Being as it is new, I think an open discussion of it should be allowed.

Dennis

[plyle02]

No need for apologies bro.... I appreciate any feedback, I just did not create this thread to compete with another thread, I guess I am just sharing my new tank, and I just so happened to choose the Brightwell line-up for this setup. I really don't understand chemistry and biology all that well, so this thread is not intended to be a Q&A thread....lol..

[NaH2Ofreak]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13711650#post13711650 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by plyle02
I really don't understand chemistry and biology all that well, so this thread is not intended to be a Q&A thread....lol..

LOL! I think "observation" is better than "guessing" any day of the week!

Dennis

[GatorWPB]

Hey Plyle, how is the Zeo media doing in a phosban reactor? Is it completely filled?
Also, what pump are you using and do you feel that it sufficiently cleans off the film on the stones?
Im concerned that for my 65g one phosban reactor would not be large enough to fit all the rocks that I will need.
Thanks for the info, I will be closely following your thread also.

[plyle02]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13712099#post13712099 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GatorWPB
Hey Plyle, how is the Zeo media doing in a phosban reactor? Is it completely filled?
Also, what pump are you using and do you feel that it sufficiently cleans off the film on the stones?
Im concerned that for my 65g one phosban reactor would not be large enough to fit all the rocks that I will need.
Thanks for the info, I will be closely following your thread also.

I am using a Mini-Jet 606, it is adjustable as far as flow goes. I also trim down on the ball valve, the instructions indicate that you should run for the 1st 2 weeks at 25gph. Next, ramp up to 50gph, then once through the initial startup stages, set to 100gph. As far as the reactor goes, the box indicates to use 200 grams of media for 100 gallons. The box is 1000 grams, I have a 50 gallon tank, so divided the media into approximately 10 parts, so essentially one box of media gets me 10 portions. So, to directly answer your question, the media fills the reactor to maybe 1/4 or 1/5th of the total volume in the reactor. I doubt you would have to fill the total reactor for your tank, given that you only have 15 gallons more capacity. Good Luck!

[Todd March]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13712421#post13712421 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by plyle02
I am using a Mini-Jet 606, it is adjustable as far as flow goes. I also trim down on the ball valve, the instructions indicate that you should run for the 1st 2 weeks at 25gph. Next, ramp up to 50gph, then once through the initial startup stages, set to 100gph. As far as the reactor goes, the box indicates to use 200 grams of media for 100 gallons. The box is 1000 grams, I have a 50 gallon tank, so divided the media into approximately 10 parts, so essentially one box of media gets me 10 portions. So, to directly answer your question, the media fills the reactor to maybe 1/4 or 1/5th of the total volume in the reactor. I doubt you would have to fill the total reactor for your tank, given that you only have 15 gallons more capacity. Good Luck!

How often are they recommending changing out the media...?

[GatorWPB]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13712421#post13712421 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by plyle02
I am using a Mini-Jet 606, it is adjustable as far as flow goes. I also trim down on the ball valve, the instructions indicate that you should run for the 1st 2 weeks at 25gph. Next, ramp up to 50gph, then once through the initial startup stages, set to 100gph. As far as the reactor goes, the box indicates to use 200 grams of media for 100 gallons. The box is 1000 grams, I have a 50 gallon tank, so divided the media into approximately 10 parts, so essentially one box of media gets me 10 portions. So, to directly answer your question, the media fills the reactor to maybe 1/4 or 1/5th of the total volume in the reactor. I doubt you would have to fill the total reactor for your tank, given that you only have 15 gallons more capacity. Good Luck!
Thanks again.
Have you read the Brightwells PDF document on Neo Zeo Method?
So based on the directions in the PDF, Im looking at having 500g or more of the rock media.
This is what it says as far as amount of stones to use:

The following recommendations are based upon extensive testing and will produce
the best results in most aquaria:
Weeks 1 and 2: Place 200 g each week of NçoZeo for each 100 US-gallons (378.5 L) in
the entire aquarium system into an appropriate media reactor; adjust the rate of water
flow through the reactor to ~25 gph (94.6 lph). Add 2.5 ml MicrôBacter7 per 100 USgallons
daily.
Weeks 3 and 4: Add 200 g each week of NçoZeo for each 100 US-gallons (378.5 L) in
the entire aquarium system into the media reactor; increase water flow through the
reactor to ~50 gph (189.3 lph). Add 1 ml MicrôBacter7 and Reef BioFuel per 100 USgallons
daily.
Week 5: Add 200 g of NçoZeo for each 100 US-gallons (378.5 L) in the entire aquarium
system into the media reactor; increase water flow through the reactor to ~100 gph
(378.5 lph). Add 1 ml MicrôBacter7 and Reef BioFuel per 100 US-gallons daily.
Once the first 5 weeks of usage has passed, adjust the dosage of MicrôBacter7 and Reef
BioFuel according to the appearance of the system, the inhabitants, and as dictated by
the water parameters. Refer to the instructions on each of the afore-mentioned
supplements’ labels for additional information. Every six-weeks, change 25% of the
NçoZeo media and add 1 ml MicrôBacter7 and Reef BioFuel per 100 US-gallons daily
for one week before resuming normal dosing schedule.

[CHUBAKAH]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13711373#post13711373 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NaH2Ofreak
CHUBAKAH, how exactly do YOU know what is growing or not growing in plyle02's tank?
Dennis
Because he answered it two posts above mine? :lol:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13711373#post13711373 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NaH2Ofreak
Relax brother!
Dennis
Seems it is you who needs to relax. I was only trying to steer you in the right direction.

:smokin:

Again, GL plyle02

[plyle02]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13712719#post13712719 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Todd March
How often are they recommending changing out the media...?

During the startup, looks like the media gets completely changed after 2 weeks, then 4 weeks, then once established, every 6 weeks changing 25%. The 1000gram media was only like $15...

[Mykel Obvious]

Glad you are here... will be nice to follow a dedicated user thread from setup

However, I think Gator is right... it looks like you should be adding 100g (based on your 50 gallon system) per week until you reach 500g at 100gph at week 5 and then start changing 25% 6 weeks later... at least that's what I got from reading the PDF

I'm really thinking about going with this method myself... I need to find a canister filter that will hold about 650g of rock and have enough flow that I can just open the valve to flush them out... any ideas??

GL and keep us informed

[plyle02]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13713248#post13713248 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Mykel Obvious
Glad you are here... will be nice to follow a dedicated user thread from setup

However, I think Gator is right... it looks like you should be adding 100g (based on your 50 gallon system) per week until you reach 500g at 100gph at week 5 and then start changing 25% 6 weeks later... at least that's what I got from reading the PDF

I'm really thinking about going with this method myself... I need to find a canister filter that will hold about 650g of rock and have enough flow that I can just open the valve to flush them out... any ideas??

GL and keep us informed

Gotcha,
I assumed it was to dump and change, but instead you continue to add 100 grams to the exisiting media? My directions are the same, I missed the each week part, and the adding to the existing media, good thing I am only in the 1st week...lol... Ok, now I can see how the reactor chamber will fill up, makes total sense....

Sorry Gator, for the mis-info....

I think I am on track now, so I will update each week with a new pic and any other new info.

[GatorWPB]

I may still try to use my phosban reactor and maybe get a second reactor if i need more volume for the stones. and i may use a quiet one 1200 (296 gph) pump.
the other option is to get an internal canister filter but i dont know much about them.

[GatorWPB]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13713304#post13713304 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by plyle02
Sorry Gator, for the mis-info....

I think I am on track now, so I will update each week with a new pic and any other new info. not a problem. thought i would share the info i had. also, your experience is helping me before i start the program.

[plyle02]

Gator,
I still feel the one chamber will be enough for me, but at 500grams, I can see it filling to the rim, so for the 65gallon tank, you may end up needing the second chamber. You could still use 1 pump, maybe rated slightly higher gph.

I plan on disconnecting the hose in and output, shaking the container with media vigoursly, then hooking back up to get the mulm/ film out of the reactor. We'll have to wait and see......

[plyle02]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13713878#post13713878 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by plyle02
Gator,
I still feel the one chamber will be enough for me, but at 500grams, I can see it filling to the rim, so for the 65gallon tank, you may end up needing the second chamber. You could still use 1 pump, maybe rated slightly higher gph.

I plan on disconnecting the hose in and output, shaking the container with media vigoursly, then hooking back up to get the mulm/ film out of the reactor. We'll have to wait and see......

Oh yeah, I plan on doing this process weekly.....

[Mykel Obvious]

plyle, what reactor are you using?

[plyle02]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13713970#post13713970 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Mykel Obvious
plyle, what reactor are you using?

phosban for now.....
See how it goes, the media is kinda large, easy to get flow in and around it, I think this will suffice....

[GatorWPB]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13714127#post13714127 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by plyle02
phosban for now.....
See how it goes, the media is kinda large, easy to get flow in and around it, I think this will suffice....
I think thats my idea as well. But I'll look into buying a ~300gph pump so I can increase the flow a couple times a week to release the biofilm. If I start with just one phosban reactor, I'll have a couple weeks before I would need the second reactor and one pump should be good enough for both. A phosban reactor is not expensive which is consistent with the whole neo zeo method, a more reasonably price alternative to zeovit and prodibio.

Cant wait to see the progress of your results plyle. Keep us updated.

[Mykel Obvious]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13714127#post13714127 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by plyle02
phosban for now.....
See how it goes, the media is kinda large, easy to get flow in and around it, I think this will suffice....

my bad, I meant what brand reactor

[plyle02]

2nd week in, just added another 25% of the media as instructed for week 2, continuing to dose 2.5ml of Bacter each day. So, far I have experienced zero algae issues at all, I have not brushed the glass yet since running the media and dosing the bacter. As far as my corals go, I have noticed most of my corals getting much lighter, so I have been overfeeding to get more nutrients in the water. I also switched my bulb from a 10k to a 14k phoenix, much bluer and much less stressfull on the corals as it is placed 6" above the water(250 watt). The corals are slowing showing a darker pigment, so I think all will be well. I also added a sleeper goby, he has re-arranged the tank, so my updated pictures will not look the same, I had to re-place some corals, due to him dumping sand all over them. The updated pictures will be posted later today.

[GatorWPB]

sounds great. You will definitely notice a change in colors with the change in bulb. So it may be a little tough to tell whether its a change from the Neo or the bulb.
Whichever it is, it will be a benefit.
Do you have close ups of the corals to show the change in colors?

[plyle02]

Gator, whats up! I will snap some photos later, and post them on the thread, it will be a couple of hours before the lights come on.... I will document the thread, both good, bad, and ugly... I will also use comparitive shots, and close up coral shots to document the changes made in coloration.
Thanks.....

[plyle02]

Turned on the lights a bit early, here are a few pics....

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[plyle02]

3rd week in, just added another 100grams of media to the reactor... This week I adjusted and used amino dosing everyday, fed the fish more, and noticed the corals piment darkening, which is a good thing... Tomorrow I will begin the Reef BioFuel, which I am thinking the amino dosing and fish feedings will probably need to continue... I have a very slight sheen of algae on the glass, still have not brushed the glass since starting the system. I think it will be required in a day or so. Nitrates are testing around 3-5ppm right now, and PO4 is not testing at all.
Here are my current params:
Temp: 78-79
Salinity: 1.025
Calcium: 400
Alk: 9.4 dkh
Mag: 1350
NO3: 3-5
PO4: Zero

I am using the ReefCon Program for tracking all my tested paramaters and any other general notes. I really enjoy testing the water, the daily dosing, monitoring, upkeep, etc... Obviously running a UNLS does require paying close attention to details, so once I am fully established in the system, I think the corals are going to color up very nicely......

[plyle02]

Here are the pics for the week, most of them of the same corals, or at least the ones I am watching closely. Some appear to be pretty washed out, they look much better this week, as hard as that may seem... They were almost bleached 2 weeks ago... Anyway here are some pics taken moments ago...

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[plyle02]

I am updating, despite the lack of activity, this creates a journal for me, the pics help to see growth and coloration. I am really starting to dial in, the colors are slightly morphing, no washed out nutrient starved corals at this point. I noticed a bit of STN towards the base a few corals, not pest related at all... Seems that every time a coral in my tank starts STN'N, neighboring corals do as well, must be a pathogen in the water column.
Anyway, I started using 5ml of restor each day, and the necrosis has seized and all corals are showing signs of improvement. The tissue is growing over the exposed skeleton, and I am certain the corals will be ok.
Here is a list of products I am using at this time....
1. Koral Kolor- 5 drops every 3 days
2. Patassion- 3 drops every 3 days
3. Restor- 5 ml per day(until tissue is completely restored)
4. Replinish- 5 ml per week
5. Vitamarin C- 5 drops every 3 days
6. Reef Snow- 5 drops every other night
7. Zooplanktos-L- 5 drops every other night(opposite reef snow)
8. Micro-Bacter- 3 drops a day
9. Reef Bio-Fuel- 5 ml per day(in the AM)
10. Coral Amino- 3 drops every other day(during feedings)

Other Products:
1. Lugols-3 drops per week
2. ESV Strontium- 5 drops per week
3. Zeovit Sponge Power- 3 drops every 3 days
4. CA- Oceans Blend- 12ml per day
5. Alk- Oceans Blend- 12ml per day
6. Mag- Oceans Blend- 5ml per week

* all dosing by hand, yes all dosing done daily by hand. I really enjoy this part of the system, not for everyone, but I am super anal about this tank/ project. I am under the values recommended, but this is a gradual approach. I do water changes weekly(10%), using IO salts buffered to tank water, well as best as possible... I am also striving for NSW values, as most ULNS generally prefer...
Here are my very consistent values:
CA-410
ALK- 8.0
Mag- 1350
Temp- 78
SG- 1.025
NO3 and PO4 don't register on my test kit(salifert)

I know this is alot of info, but I don't remember speaking to it in previous post....

Thanks for looking, I also read the other Neo-Zeo thread religiously, I don't post much, but really dig that tread!

Pics coming

[plyle02]

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[plyle02]

a couple more....

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[GatorWPB]

Plyle, the tanks looks AMAZING!! :eek1:

Thanks a bunch for posting your dosing regiment. I am about to enter my 5th week and will be purchasing the additional supplements shortly. I think I will only start with AAs (maybe Elos, not sure) Vitamin-C (brghtwell) and Koral-VM (brightwell) and then gradually start adding the others.

Looks like I should be able to get the 600-650g of stones in the phosban reactor, it will be maxed, but should be fine. I will upgrade to a larger pump, likely the quiet one 1200.

Also, I didnt realize you had a CBB, how is it doing? No problems with the corals? I am thinking about adding one to my tank, looking for a very small one myself, as I know I will be upgrading to a larger tank in about a year.

[plyle02]

Yeah,
This guy will be here until my next upgrade, or he gets too big... CBB's are hit or miss. So far so good, no sps picking, but he is picking at a trach brain, and hovers over the clam... My previous one didn't touch a thing, and LOVED aptasia. O well, I will keep a watchful eye....
Thanks for the kind words!

My corals have really shown nice color, early on they washed out, but are coming back strong. The colors are really taking on zeovit type colors, I really think I am dialing in... I have also noticed that weekly water changes are really helping too, the PE is always so nice after the W/C.

[markandkristen]

perry you snuck in that copperband looks nice!

[SunnyX]

Very nice and clean. :thumbsup:

I am wanting to try some of the Brightwell products as soon as my LFS starts carrying them.

[LunarDDS]

Wow, that is a pretty intensive dosing schedule. I don't know if i could pull that off. Kudos to you for taking the time. Looking at your setup I see a lot of coral that look like mine used to. My problem was lighting. How far off the water is that pendant? I upgraded to new reflectors and my corals colored up nicely. Just a thought for you.

[plyle02]

Mark: Lol.... I did sneak that copperband in the tank...

SunnyX: Coming from you I consider that a major compliment! I appreciate the kind words...

LunarDDS: I have a 250 watt aquamedic pendant, using the coralvue 20k bulb at 12" above the water line... The tank is only 15" deep, and I have a 3" sandbed, with the water line 2" from the top, so I am getting plenty of light on even the bottom of the reef... The dosing schedule is demanding, not for everyone, but I really enjoy the daily schedule, I love to tinker, this keeps me preoccupied, keeping my hands out of the tank

[volcom69]

Wow looking good, so let me ask you adding all this stuff is it making your glass get dirty faster with a film on it. I see your adding 5ml of bio-fuel in your tank im only doing 1.5 ml day in my 55 my i should up this uh. Anyways great lookin tank just seems like whenever i add other products with the biofuel i get a film on my glass, i even dose at half of what it says.

[volcom69]

One more question you seem pretty good with this, if my NO3 is at 2.5, and my po4 is at 0.03-0.04, for the past couple of weeks with dosing the bio-fuel at 1.5 ml you think i should raise this up to get my N and P to go down at all. Thanks

[d2mini]

Would the carbon/gfo reactors from Bulk Reef Supply be good for running this stuff?
Single stage or two stage?

[plyle02]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14011216#post14011216 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by volcom69
Wow looking good, so let me ask you adding all this stuff is it making your glass get dirty faster with a film on it. I see your adding 5ml of bio-fuel in your tank im only doing 1.5 ml day in my 55 my i should up this uh. Anyways great lookin tank just seems like whenever i add other products with the biofuel i get a film on my glass, i even dose at half of what it says.

The glass on the tank has certainly shown more algae than in the past, I have increased the bio-fuel, more than suggested. I am now seeing a reduction. This will occur no matter what, but when it shows after 4-5 days vs 8-10 like early on, it leads me to believe the nutrients are not quite as low. This is the reason I increased the bio-fuel. Go by recommended values until week 5, then start tinkering a bit more...

Also, nothing wrong with your NO3 and PO4, IMO, the corals need a bit of it. Let the system work for you, I believe it is a design to bring the values down...very slowly. GL :D

[plyle02]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14013110#post14013110 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by d2mini
Would the carbon/gfo reactors from Bulk Reef Supply be good for running this stuff?
Single stage or two stage?

Ultimately you need to achieve at least 100gph through the reactor, based on your tank size, you may be fine with one reactor, or you may need two... I am using a phosban reactor, and it seems to work just fine. The media is kind of large, so there is no proble gettting the flow through it. Not familair with those reactors, I would go with a standard media reactor....GL;)

[CoralCaps]

Good thread. I am starting the Neo-Zeo method very soon (might be using ZeoVit media since Premium Aquatics hasn't got their Neo-Zeo media in yet....we'll see). I like the positive results I've been reading about. Probably won't dose as many things as you but I'll just play it by ear (or eye, lol).

What test kit have you been reading your NO3 levels with?

[plyle02]

CoralCaps: I am testing with Salifert right now...
Thanks for reading....

[GatorWPB]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14014275#post14014275 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by CoralCaps
Good thread. I am starting the Neo-Zeo method very soon (might be using ZeoVit media since Premium Aquatics hasn't got their Neo-Zeo media in yet....we'll see). I like the positive results I've been reading about. Probably won't dose as many things as you but I'll just play it by ear (or eye, lol).

What test kit have you been reading your NO3 levels with? not to hijack, but I bought my starter pack (neo zeo rocks, MB7 and RBF) from **********.com, great customer service and great price.
my 5th week into the system, and I bought my ZeoVit AAs, and 4 Brightwell products for additives from PA (my favorite online retailer).

[magnoliarichj]

i had that light no matter what bulb i put in it i had the same look as you in my tank... change your light.

[plyle02]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14016104#post14016104 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by magnoliarichj
i had that light no matter what bulb i put in it i had the same look as you in my tank... change your light.

Could you give me more detailed info on this statement, I am trying to figure it out, just seems a bit vague to me. I don't feel that lighting is an issue at all... Thanks

[reefyourself]

Hey, im actually running this system in a brs reactor....with a maxi jet 1200 i only receive a max flow of 60 gallons per hour....is this enough???? I know that I need to get approximate 100 gallons per hour flow at the end of week 5....dont know if 60 is enough now...kind of worried....

What do I do?

[allsps40]

A MJ1200 should be giving you a lot more flow than 60 gph.
Plyle02 I thought you were using a Phoenix 14k but I saw a post that said you are using a 20??

[pimp2daizzo]

do you see any changes in your corals??? i started it and ran with it for awhile but just grew more green on the glass so i faded it out, but im thinking about trying ti one more time

[reefyourself]

maybe its because im going half inch from my maxijet into the brs reactor to 3/8 inch?????? Dont know why its cutting so much flow?

sorry for hijacking thread!

[saltygeek]

You guys do realize this thread is 2 years old right:)

[pimp2daizzo]

ya thats why i was asking if he saw any changes lol