View Full Version : Help me save this one!
brayden
11/10/2008, 11:02 PM
Alright...Here it is. I have been doing this for a few years and know some tricks of the trade, but have never been able to keep a Powder Brown, always due to ich. So I have a 3 inch Powder Brown in QT for about a week. No problems eating, came out of hiding after a couple days. He is the only one in the tank now and the water conditions are very good. It is a 30 gallon with good water movement, a sump, filter sock and running carbon. I noticed today some light signs of ich. Very small white spots scattered over him. WHAT is my BEST method of attacking this? I am thinking of medication that has worked on some of my other fish, since he is alone and it can not hurt anything else. But what about hypo or copper. I have not done anything else and would not know where to begin. So please mention something, but when you do, please take all the steps needed to perform the cure. Thank you for your help.
NOTE: I have had him for 10 days now and this is the first sign. He is still eating like a champ, so I still have a very good chance.
brayden
11/10/2008, 11:17 PM
Where is waterkeeper?
brayden
11/10/2008, 11:37 PM
Anyone?
raggie
11/10/2008, 11:45 PM
slice up a piece of garlic into the sump its a natural immune system booster and what is the water temp.?
brayden
11/11/2008, 12:36 AM
Water temp is 79
MileHighFish
11/11/2008, 12:37 AM
if the tang is active and eating well i have read they can fight this off. maybe you should give it alittle time? i'm no ich expert. sorry to hear about the issue.
brayden
11/11/2008, 01:27 AM
Alright, well I will do the suggestions that I have come up with and medication and hope for the best.
otrlynn
11/11/2008, 05:33 AM
I mean no offense by this, but have you read the thread on ich at the top of this forum? There is info about using either hypo or copper based medication for ich. Hopefully you will feel more comfortable treating after reading it, if you have not done so already. Your QT set up sounds great, but remember to remove the carbon if you use medication. Also keep in mind that ammonia can build up fast in a QT and do water changes several times a week. Post any problems back here and I'm sure someone will have answers. Good luck.
Paul_PSU
11/11/2008, 05:40 AM
I have used garlic treatment for a blue hippo I had. I soaked all the food in it and also put a couple drops in the tank each day. It took it about 2 weeks but got rid of all of it on him. Good luck.
agreeive?fish
11/11/2008, 06:40 AM
I use a 55g tank minum for qt of tangs... i have seen many tangs get stessed out in small qt tanks and be 100% better once moved to a larger qt tank... and i also use copper safe and it works for me with out fail,, but the directions on the bottle will not give you a theropudic dose.. put the recomended dose in on day 1.. every 12 hours later put in 1/4 dose untill you reach a double dose...and continue your normal qt procedures for one month.. ick will be gone in a couple days and if you leave the fish in the medicated tank for your 4 weeks that the copper safe is good for your ick problem will be gone unless you have ick in your display tank...
NirvanaFan
11/11/2008, 09:55 AM
I used a 29g tank to qt a small powder blue. After a few days in the tank he started showing signs of ich. Hypo worked very well to get rid of the ich. Just make sure you follow the steps. Check out the disease forum here on RC. There are some stickies at the top of the forum that are excellent reads. They detail the procedure down to a "T". Just make sure that if you decide to go with hypo, you have a refractometer. A swing arm hydrometer is just not accurate enough.
WaterKeeper
11/11/2008, 05:57 PM
He's here and, as was mentioned, see This (http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1500214). It will help save your tang.
kevin2000
11/11/2008, 06:19 PM
My 02
Qting is normally a 4+ week process .. a one week QT is almost worthless. Further ... putting any fish into a disease/parasite infested display tank doesn't make much sense .. QT or not.
If you want an ich free tank you need to remove all of the fish from the display tank and place them in one or more QT's. You then need to treat those fish (whether they show signs of ich or not) with either copper or hyposalinity (I prefer hypo especially with tangs). You also need to leave your display tank without any fish for about six weeks - any ich within the display tank will naturally die off without a fish to perpetuate its life cycle.
WaterKeeper
11/11/2008, 07:03 PM
I think I made that clear in the link I provided.
kevin2000
11/11/2008, 07:22 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13727617#post13727617 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by WaterKeeper
I think I made that clear in the link I provided.
No offence but everyone has an opinion ... and I don't think your link was sufficient and I don't agree with some of the info within that link.
brayden
11/11/2008, 09:58 PM
Do you think placing one of my cleaner shrimp in the QT may help out? I see two reasons. Number one they may clean some parasites off my powder brown. Number two, they can eat leftover food on the bottom to help keep the tank clean. Good idea or not?
kevin2000
11/11/2008, 10:08 PM
Cleaner shrimp really don't do much (if anything) in the control of ich and won't survive either copper of hyposalinity which are the two common ich cures.
Also remember that if you want an ich free tank you need to treat all of the fish (whether they show signs of ich or not) and leave your DT fish free for about six weeks.
Here's a link which discusses ich ... take some time and look at the diagram which outlines the ich life cycle as well as some of the commentary discussing common ich myths (including cleaner fish/shrimp).
http://atj.net.au/marineaquaria/marineich.html
Hope this helps.
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