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UmpaLumpa
11/17/2008, 07:34 PM
I've been cooking some rock and have noticed a few of these attached. This one fell off. What is it?
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n73/umpalumpa_04/whatisthis.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n73/umpalumpa_04/whatisthis2.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n73/umpalumpa_04/whatisthis3.jpg
UmpaLumpa
11/17/2008, 08:00 PM
I should mention that this appears to be some kind of filter feeder.
The top part opens up as shown in the picture below.
ETA: ugh I ment to enlarge that part, oh well you get the idea.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n73/umpalumpa_04/opens.jpg
chrismunn
11/17/2008, 08:05 PM
is it a mollusk?
scrmbld33
11/17/2008, 08:08 PM
tagging along, had something similar a while back, but nobody knew what he was.
heres mine
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c187/scrmbld33/fish002a.jpg
Rendos
11/17/2008, 08:09 PM
Barnacle?
UmpaLumpa
11/17/2008, 08:31 PM
i don't think its a barnacle after googling a few pages of pictures of barnacles
pagojoe
11/17/2008, 10:51 PM
It's an Ark Clam (family Arcidae) but I can't tell which species for absolutely certain. The best view for a species-level ID is horizontal so you can see the length-to-width ratio and the overall outline of one of the valves (shells). My best guess is that it's a baby Turkey Wing, Arca zebra:
http://www.jaxshells.org/turkey.htm
Scrmbld33's also looks to be a clam, but I don't think it's in the same family, since it appears to have flutes on the shell. Do you have other pics of it? It might be a venerid clam in the same family as this one (with rather exaggerated flutes):
http://www.george-shells.com/upd4/callanaitis_disjecta_39.jpg
and (disregard the non-shell pics):
http://images.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&q=bassina&btnG=Search+Images
If you have side-view pics, I can probably narrow down the ID.
Cheers,
Don
pagojoe
11/18/2008, 07:29 AM
Here are a couple more species for Umpa to consider, both Indo-Pacific rather than Florida/Caribbean:
http://www.conchology.be/en/availableshells/searchresultsgallery.php?family=ARCIDAE&species=Arca navicularis#f
http://www.conchology.be/en/availableshells/searchresultsgallery.php?family=ARCIDAE&species=Arca ventricosa#f
The crosshatched sculpture looks more like Arca ventricosa, but the shape is closer to Arca zebra or Arca navicularis. It could also be a different species that I haven't come across in my cursory internet search (maybe more likely). I'll let you know if I find a better match.
Cheers,
Don
UmpaLumpa
11/18/2008, 09:04 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13767581#post13767581 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by pagojoe
It's an Ark Clam (family Arcidae) but I can't tell which species for absolutely certain. The best view for a species-level ID is horizontal so you can see the length-to-width ratio and the overall outline of one of the valves (shells). My best guess is that it's a baby Turkey Wing, Arca zebra:
http://www.jaxshells.org/turkey.htm
Scrmbld33's also looks to be a clam, but I don't think it's in the same family, since it appears to have flutes on the shell. Do you have other pics of it? It might be a venerid clam in the same family as this one (with rather exaggerated flutes):
http://www.george-shells.com/upd4/callanaitis_disjecta_39.jpg
and (disregard the non-shell pics):
http://images.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&q=bassina&btnG=Search+Images
If you have side-view pics, I can probably narrow down the ID.
Cheers,
Don
I can take as many pics as you need. I will take a large side view when I get off work.
pagojoe
11/18/2008, 01:21 PM
Hey Umpa,
I can see yours well enough that I would probably recognize the animal if I found it, assuming it's not one of the species I already mentioned. Scrmbld's clam is a different matter, since I can only see it from the edge. I'll actually check some books this evening and see if I can come up with a better ID on yours.
Cheers,
Don
UmpaLumpa
11/18/2008, 04:43 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13771025#post13771025 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by pagojoe
Hey Umpa,
I can see yours well enough that I would probably recognize the animal if I found it, assuming it's not one of the species I already mentioned. Scrmbld's clam is a different matter, since I can only see it from the edge. I'll actually check some books this evening and see if I can come up with a better ID on yours.
Cheers,
Don
Your the closest one so far but this "clam" is triangular. its like a boat almost. It has a "hull" and a "deck" Its all hard shell too. The "deck" opens up on on the "bow" side like with the "stern" side acting like the hinge. It opens up like a beak on a bird but the top beak would be flat like a "deck" would be on a boat, whereas the hull would be the lower part of the beak.
UmpaLumpa
11/18/2008, 05:14 PM
Ok here are the requested side pictures. I also have one in my tank of the side of a rock that happened to be open when I was taking the side pics. Yes I know I have an algae problem, thus the reason I am cooking my rock.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n73/umpalumpa_04/detail.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n73/umpalumpa_04/detail2.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n73/umpalumpa_04/detail3.jpg
BTW does anyone know what kind of worm that is off to the left of the "clam"
justinl
11/18/2008, 06:45 PM
Arcidae clams are triangular. your worm is a sipunculid; a peanut worm. harmless detritivore.
pagojoe
11/19/2008, 01:33 AM
Yes, it's an Ark Clam for sure. The closest one I've found is Guido Poppe's "Arca species" (meaning he's not sure of the ID, although it may be a variation of Arca avellana):
http://www.conchology.be/en/availableshells/shellsforsaledetails.php?uniquenumber=418333#f
More pics, Arca avellana with and without periostracum:
http://www.conchology.be/en/availableshells/shellsforsaledetails.php?uniquenumber=143452#f
http://www.conchology.be/en/availableshells/shellsforsaledetails.php?uniquenumber=148352#f
Cheers,
Don
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