LED mini light

[Giga]

I can't seem to find any infomation on this light. Can it be bought separate?

[michael_cb_125]

Yes it can, I think that they are around $800.00
~Michael

[Giga]

woh guess I should have expected that kind of $$$ so cool though

[Giga]

can anyone point me to technical data on this light. Like how does it not overheat having 18 3W cree leds in small space?

[percula]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13893291#post13893291 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Giga
can anyone point me to technical data on this light. Like how does it not overheat having 18 3W cree leds in small space?

Here you go: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1455491&perpage=25&pagenumber=3

[Opsanus tau]

Mine has been running 8.5 hours a day for almost two months, yes the top of the unit gets warm, but apparently someone at ELOS knows what they are doing,..there is O heat coming from the bottom of the lamp,(well,..comparitivly,..just vaguely warm, a compact fluorescent would put out more heat ).

Keep in mind also that these lights were tested for 6 years prior to the release, (as per some ELOS dude who shall remain anonymous)-Dave

[LoneStarSA]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13893291#post13893291 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Giga
can anyone point me to technical data on this light. Like how does it not overheat having 18 3W cree leds in small space?

Basically the aluminum housing they are mounted in acts like a giant head sink. Almost NO heat transfered down to the tank :)

[Opsanus tau]

If you are looking for a "negative" about the light , I would consider color temperature, to be an aesthetic issue in this case.,..very 10,000K.
IMO/IME but I'm a real knit-picking color snob -Dave

[LoneStarSA]

I don't think it has a overpowering '10k' color like a yellow XM 10k shows ;)

[todd03blown]

yea this light is very bright and I dont see any yellow what so ever...very bright white with a touch of blue hue.

[Opsanus tau]

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[todd03blown]

Sounds like you maybe woke up on the wrong side of the bed perhaps?

[Giga]

What drives all 18 Cree at once? From the little that I know I thought you could drive like 6 in a seires?

[wayne in norway]

Saw one of these for the first time a couple of days ago and was very impressed, so hoping to get back and measure it soon, but it was on a tank next to an e-power 150W, and didn't seem to be shamed (and the e-power tested very well a month or so ago). Good white colour, good distribution, good intensity

But that 6 years of testing is so much nonsense tho'. LED's like this were not available 3 years ago, let alone 6.

[elosusa]

We have been experimenting with LEDs for 4 years now and this is our first we have produced for sale. Of course these LEDs were not available then but this does not mean we have not been working and learning for this time. While others introduced LEDs we were waiting for the LEDs to become powerful enough. Hope that helps clear up any confusion.

[trueisb2]

one quick question, is there anyway to dim your Elite to simulate sunrise and sunset instead of turn it on and off because I thought you can do that with LED.

Thanks, srry to hijack this thread. M still playing with my Elos Mini.

[erichatesmice]

Just want to chime in, it's major bright, far brighter than the Solaris G Series I owned. It is also amazing how they were able to incorporate all that lighting in a small housing, even smaller power brick, and no noise (no fans). It really is an advance in LED fixtures in terms of engineering.

I just wish the color was not so 10k. It is a very crisp white in my eyes, with no hint of yellow but no hint of blue either. The colors of the coral I've been in my tank are pleasing, but not eye-popping (i.e. red is more of a dark maroon, blue is more purple, purple is more brown, etc). With my Solaris, I was able to adjust color temp and sunset/sunrise cycles with the built-in controller... you might be able to adjust sunrise/sunset cycles with a controller you'd have to buy (like the $1.8K Biotopus) but certainly not color temp.

[Opsanus tau]

"I just wish the color was not so 10k. It is a very crisp white in my eyes, with no hint of yellow but no hint of blue either. The colors of the coral I've been in my tank are pleasing, but not eye-popping"


Thank you ,..I also said,....."very 10K"..never said yellow, ,....then someone put words in my mouth,.."like yellow".....I get mad,... then I get read the riot act from the moderators?????????????
Sorry beerguy,...no one likes having words put in their mouths.

I should have stated it more like erichatesmice,..I too feel the corals are good looking, but compared to some other cooler colored systems I am running,..seems stark in comparison,..."not eye popping", but nice.

and I have absolutely!!!! have sps growth after only about 8-10 weeks into set up.

again,..sorry beerguy -Dave

[trueisb2]

I agree that the light is not very yellow but IMO there is not blue hint whatsoever.

Well except there are 3 blue LEDs and if you look at the light directly u ll see a hint of yellow I guess lol however, if u look at ur tank, there is no blue hint at all.
As for the temp, Elite does raise the temp 1F after hours of operating (I live in LA so i might b coz the weather is always hot anyway), and there are 3 degree different bw my sump and my main tank.

Overall, I like the Elos minus the micro bubbles such a pain to figure out how to get rid off.

[erichatesmice]

Jesse, is there any possibility of a rev 2 of this light with a higher color temp. I am beginning to notice that my corals pop much more under my friend's 20K lighting.

Or can you offer any suggestions for supplemental lighting that would make the light noticeably bluer?

[elosusa]

yes of course and a few have even ordered e-lites with a mix of colors. As you can see from our range of halide bulbs we prefer a 10-12k temperature but to change the LED mix in the e-lite in the future is possible for sure. The main reason we picked this temperature was mainly because we wanted the e-lite to be powerful enough for most anything people decided to keep in the MINI and if we were to add more blues, which add very little besides color, we would sacrifice performance. This is also why we decided to wait to sell an LED fixture because we wanted to be sure that the LEDs available were powerful enough. Today the e-lite has the most powerful LED available and we will continue to take the most powerful LED available and as they become more powerful it will be easy to add more blue and maintain very good performance.

[PhLipStyLz]

jesse - so does it cost extra to do a custom order for the e-lites? if customers are willing to sacrifice power for color temp, is that possible.. somethin like 8 blues, 10 whites?
i was hoping to get something in the 18-20k range

i have no idea what that would do to the color nor the power, but just wanted to throw an example out there...

[PhLipStyLz]

one other questions... i know you mentioned somethin in another thread regarding having seperate power chords for blues and whites and the reason why ELOS would not sell the e-lite like that... however, is it possible to do a custom order?
as much as i want the MINI, i dont know if i would be able to do without the sunrise/sunset effect (w/ actinic lighting)

[erichatesmice]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14161710#post14161710 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by elosusa
yes of course and a few have even ordered e-lites with a mix of colors. As you can see from our range of halide bulbs we prefer a 10-12k temperature but to change the LED mix in the e-lite in the future is possible for sure. The main reason we picked this temperature was mainly because we wanted the e-lite to be powerful enough for most anything people decided to keep in the MINI and if we were to add more blues, which add very little besides color, we would sacrifice performance. This is also why we decided to wait to sell an LED fixture because we wanted to be sure that the LEDs available were powerful enough. Today the e-lite has the most powerful LED available and we will continue to take the most powerful LED available and as they become more powerful it will be easy to add more blue and maintain very good performance.

Jesse, is there a way for someone who already owns the E-Lite like myself to upgrade their existing unit, either now or in the future? For example, can the LED board, or better yet individual LEDs, be swapped out in plug-and-play fashion?

[elosusa]

Sorry, didn't answer this. The e-lite is built as a unit and should be considered a bulb that does not need to be replaced, every 8-12 months as an MH bulb. If you have the e-lite you have a light that cannot be changed from it's current form but this does not mean we will not have, "add-ons" that will have more blue, moonlights, other functions, etc;) Hope that little hint helps for now but the e-lite will not change for a while as we will need to test new LEDs with a new power supply, temperatures, reliability, etc.

[PhLipStyLz]

Jesse - you mentioned "a few have even ordered e-lites with a mix of colors." For new System MINI orders, can customers order a custom mix of LEDs for the e-lite?

sorry, a little confused from your last response to erichatesmice...

[elosusa]

No problem. Yes they can order in specific color combinations but this is a custom order and it adds cost and a lead time to do this.

[erichatesmice]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14193107#post14193107 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by elosusa
Sorry, didn't answer this. The e-lite is built as a unit and should be considered a bulb that does not need to be replaced, every 8-12 months as an MH bulb. If you have the e-lite you have a light that cannot be changed from it's current form but this does not mean we will not have, "add-ons" that will have more blue, moonlights, other functions, etc;) Hope that little hint helps for now but the e-lite will not change for a while as we will need to test new LEDs with a new power supply, temperatures, reliability, etc.

Thanks for the info Jesse.

[PhLipStyLz]

Would you be able to PM me a quote/ballpark price for a custom order like that (to see if it’s even worth it)?
Or, even better, would ELOS be able to create a custom e-lite with two power cords, to control the white and blue LEDs independently? I know it’s a concern that one set of LEDs would be on longer than the other set, but at most, I would run the blues only 1 hr more per day than the whites. Simulate a 30 min sunrise, and a 30 min sunset.
If that’s a possibility, can you quote me on that as well.
Thank for all the responses thus far Jesse!

Philip

[elosusa]

Here is one in all blue. I got these in as a custom order and then a few in for the manta, e-power combo:

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/113960blue-lite-med.jpg

[PhLipStyLz]

ooh man!! that looks awsome, any pics with it shining over the tank?

[erichatesmice]

I agree that does look pretty cool. I see that you have finally filled that empty Elos Mini you have in the office with water and rock!

[trueisb2]

omg, is there a trade-in option for the "customized Elite"
I dont see myself spending another huge amount of $$$ for another Elite :(

[elosusa]

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/113960blue-lite1-med.jpg


http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/113960blue-lite2-med.jpg


http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/113960blue-lite3-med.jpg



http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/113960blue-lite4-med.jpg

iphone pics but you get the idea;)

[PhLipStyLz]

those blue LED's look great! Jesse-thanks so much for postin those. I'm guessin the bottom two pics are with the regular light (3blues, 15 whites)?

[elosusa]

yep that is correct.

[PhLipStyLz]

after speaking to a rep at one of the ELOS authorized dealers, i'm def going to place an order for a MINI System with a custom e-lite configuration!

would you have any literature on PAR values with different blue/white LED configurations? something to compare to with the 3blue/15white graphs that has already been posted

thanks again Jesse!

[PhLipStyLz]

Jesse - did you happen to run PAR tests on the all blue LED fixture?

[elosusa]

no my meter is in Italy at the moment but I wouldn't expect much from an all blue LED light. This is used to supplement the E-powers with color only.

[PhLipStyLz]

gotcha... my next question is probably best to discuss over the phone, but i figured i'd ask here first...

i've been discussing with a represenative at Phishy about a custom blue vs white LED configuration for the e-lite with the purchase of a MINI system. Would you be able to give recommendations to get a color temperature in the 18k-20k range? 5 blue, 10 white maybe? Also, would you have any PAR values for other cofigurations?

thanks again for all the help thus far!