new skimmer line? [Archive] - Reef Central Online Community

victor90

12/10/2008, 01:19 AM

Sorry Chad,

Anton has been developing a new standard line of cone skimmers It will be here soon the pricing will be competitive.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/DSCN5842.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/DSCN5846.jpg

victor90

12/10/2008, 01:30 AM

Chad
I think you are the only guy i know that runs two highend cones on a single tank
Maybe a third?

mavgi

12/10/2008, 02:40 AM

Very nice volute Sicce need to learn....

GSMguy

12/10/2008, 03:10 AM

That is really nice victor

Jim_S

12/10/2008, 03:12 AM

I hope you guys can blow those KO's right out of the water with those Victor! Nice work Anton!!!

victor90

12/10/2008, 04:07 AM

Wow
Jim_S is back hope your doing good!!

moo0o

12/10/2008, 05:26 AM

Its a sicce? i thought that pump looked familiar. looks nice victor!

Rwinfrey

12/10/2008, 07:52 AM

hey Victor post the other pics that you sent me everyone will like them:D

hahnmeister

12/10/2008, 02:21 PM

One of the biggest problems with Sicces is that they sputter at startup... the reason, as I have found, has to do with the meshwheel as the volute isnt very thick. When the motor starts, the impeller and its mesh gets sucked up against the volute face, causing friction... and then sputter... The easiest way around this has always been to twist the volute out a little... giving the impeller about an extra 1/8-1/4" of volute depth. If you could find a slightly longer ceramic shaft (or create a custom shaft support that held the shaft w/ a little more length), you would likely solve many of the startup problems with the Sicce pumps by making the volute about 1/4" thicker than stock.. Combine this with a 1" outlet, and you have yourself a winner.

chadfarmer

12/10/2008, 02:56 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13911790#post13911790 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ATB USA
Chad
I think you are the only guy i know that runs two highend cones on a single tank
Maybe a third?

if i have room, why not

Jim_S

12/10/2008, 03:03 PM

So it sounds like you come up with a solution to the start-up problems? Great news if thats the case! Another break through for ATB.

Watch out though!!!! You know swc is going to get their hands on that pump and send it to China to be copied.....

mavgi

12/10/2008, 03:11 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13914445#post13914445 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by hahnmeister
One of the biggest problems with Sicces is that they sputter at startup... the reason, as I have found, has to do with the meshwheel as the volute isnt very thick. When the motor starts, the impeller and its mesh gets sucked up against the volute face, causing friction... and then sputter... The easiest way around this has always been to twist the volute out a little... giving the impeller about an extra 1/8-1/4" of volute depth. If you could find a slightly longer ceramic shaft (or create a custom shaft support that held the shaft w/ a little more length), you would likely solve many of the startup problems with the Sicce pumps by making the volute about 1/4" thicker than stock.. Combine this with a 1" outlet, and you have yourself a winner.

It's Depend ..... to mach layer the pump will not start even with long shaft... the max i was pull with this pump was 35LPM but with difficulty . the pump will run and then can stop....

hahnmeister

12/10/2008, 03:44 PM

True, its not the ONLY possible problem, but I found it to be one of the most frequent.

GSMguy

12/10/2008, 05:00 PM

My sicce with ghetto volute and pinwheel starts every time, I have no doubt this airstar2 will outperform it in every way.

Mesh is the reason everyone thinks they have issues, mesh has issues...

Lagger

12/10/2008, 08:02 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13911739#post13911739 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ATB USA
Sorry Chad,

Anton has been developing a new standard line of cone skimmers It will be here soon the pricing will be competitive.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/DSCN5842.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/DSCN5846.jpg

Most excellent! :D

gcarroll

12/11/2008, 02:44 PM

JRaquatics

12/11/2008, 05:43 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13912211#post13912211 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jim_S
I hope you guys can blow those KO's right out of the water with those Victor! Nice work Anton!!!

I second this. Great job on those volutes Victor. Actually makes the Sicce look like a decent, somewhat high end pump. Great work like always.

recife111

12/12/2008, 03:30 AM

nton has been developing a new standard line of cone skimmers
Any details?

victor90

12/12/2008, 02:23 PM

Sorry no updates yet

JCTewks

12/13/2008, 12:37 AM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13922671#post13922671 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JRaquatics
I second this. Great job on those volutes Victor. Actually makes the Sicce look like a decent, somewhat high end pump. Great work like always.

Don't you work for a company that retails a line of Sicce base skimmers? It sounds like you think they are junk?

mojo~

12/14/2008, 12:36 PM

Looks good. I like the red. Seems like the stand is getting popular. Warner Marine put theirs on one and now yours. Rubber feet as well. Looks good. I look forward to seeing more.

LCN

12/14/2008, 01:43 PM

The stand might look the same, but the built quality is not even close.

Konadog

12/14/2008, 02:29 PM

What skimmer is this pump being put on, is it a PW or Mesh?

victor90

12/14/2008, 03:07 PM

Kona
It is for a new line of conical skimmers
Currently right now it is a pinwheel but we are testing if you can make a meshwheel that is reliable

Konadog

12/14/2008, 03:18 PM

Thanks! Personally I like PW as they are more reliable. I've always wondered how you could correctly balance a MW.

What was the wattage of the pump in it's current configuration?

If this info is in another thread, please point me to it!

victor90

12/14/2008, 04:19 PM

It is 19 watts

Konadog

12/14/2008, 06:03 PM

:thumbsup:

OK, is there a time frame of when the new line of skimmers are coming out?

hansmatt

12/14/2008, 07:21 PM

ok...you've got my attention...will this be a less expensive version of the normal ATB cones then?

moo0o

12/14/2008, 07:50 PM

its suppose to be :)

hahnmeister

12/14/2008, 08:22 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13940268#post13940268 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mojo46825
Looks good. I like the red. Seems like the stand is getting popular. Warner Marine put theirs on one and now yours. Rubber feet as well. Looks good. I look forward to seeing more.
Putting the pump on a stand is typical of most askoll based pumps... so doing it on a Sicce isnt exactly new. In this case though, its not just a stand, but also a functional part of the impeller well.

mojo~

12/14/2008, 09:21 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13940625#post13940625 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LCN
The stand might look the same, but the built quality is not even close.
Not trying to get off topic but its kinda hard to tell the quality when nobody has seen these yet or the WM. Great way to dress up a Sicce though. Would be interested in what kind of #'s it has when all said and done.

victor90

12/16/2008, 05:34 PM

Picture of the single airstar
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/aaDSCN5916.jpg

Konadog

12/16/2008, 06:00 PM

:thumbsup:

Do you have the footprint sizes yet?

victor90

12/16/2008, 06:02 PM

Kona, I will have the pictures of the two pump model in the next few days
I will ask Anton for the info you request

Konadog

12/16/2008, 06:09 PM

Pictures are always a good thing :D

Thanks

GSMguy

12/16/2008, 08:22 PM

very nice

NuReef

12/16/2008, 09:05 PM

As far as the above skimmer, what is the difference between that one and a small, or is it comparable to a medium? What is the difference between these and the earlier line of skimmers?
THanx

anne08

12/16/2008, 09:15 PM

so how much ?...warner marine is around 699.99 if it ever going to come out....what is your price ?

victor90

12/16/2008, 09:22 PM

the main difference is the pump and these skimmers do not disassemble like the other models

hansmatt

12/16/2008, 09:37 PM

so more expensive pump, much better quality
less expensive to build because they do not come apart

more difficult to clean the guts of...
and lower price than the traditional small...
hmmm...sign me up!

moondoggy4

12/16/2008, 11:36 PM

VERY NICE Is the skimmer above rated for a 120 gallon tank. Thanks in advance

Lagger

12/17/2008, 12:23 PM

MMmm, me likes me some big red volute!!! :D

These new one-piece skimmers look just like originals, cool!

JRaquatics

12/17/2008, 01:37 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13932528#post13932528 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JCTewks
Don't you work for a company that retails a line of Sicce base skimmers? It sounds like you think they are junk?

Yes, I do work for a company that sells Sicce based skimmers. But I have always said that the Sicce pumps are not my skimmer pump of choice. I find the Sicce a great for pump for budget skimmers but there are better pump options available today that don't require the use of mesh to pull high air numbers. No, I don't find them junk because they do work well with the pin wheel on small to med size skimmers and are affordable for the average hobbiest. I was just handing it to ATB for the great job of taking the Sicce pump to a different level. Props are always given when due.:D

LCN

12/17/2008, 02:42 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13957850#post13957850 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by anne08
so how much ?...warner marine is around 699.99 if it ever going to come out....what is your price ?

Are you sure the Warners are going to be release?

victor90

12/17/2008, 03:19 PM

Moondoggy,

The skimmer will be rated for 249 gallons and under the reason for this is it has the same amount of air as our small

mojo~

12/17/2008, 05:33 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13962719#post13962719 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LCN
Are you sure the Warners are going to be release?
I can say that they are. They are being built right now. But nice job to ATB for their sicce pump.

Paulairduck

12/17/2008, 05:59 PM

that is a very nice skimmer, will it work on a 300

GSMguy

12/17/2008, 06:14 PM

i think the twin sicce model would be better for a 300,

BreadmanMike

12/17/2008, 06:55 PM

Victor,

Glad to see you hooked up with Reef Specialty to sell these. Great skimmers and great customer service hand in hand. :)

victor90

12/17/2008, 07:31 PM

Thank you for your interest the price for the skimmer is 799
ReefSpeciality online, and all the ATB dealers are taking preorders

ccradr

12/18/2008, 11:14 AM

Ok..just to clarify. This will be a better skimmer than the small cone, but it's cheeper? Why don't I get this????

JRaquatics

12/18/2008, 11:39 AM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13968676#post13968676 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ccradr
Ok..just to clarify. This will be a better skimmer than the small cone, but it's cheeper? Why don't I get this????

Victor, Correct me if I am wrong. The Economy ATB is not a better skimmer than the ATB small but will be close to the same in performance. The only difference being is the use of a custom Sicce pump and the the body will not be able to be disassembled.

Jim_S

12/18/2008, 12:17 PM

I love it! For just $150 more customers can get the real deal instead of the SWC (Super Weak Cone or Super Weak Copy) :p! Very nice! These are going to make lots of people very happy this year!

mcliffy2

12/18/2008, 12:33 PM

Glad to see ATB and RS teaming up. Its a double whammy of excellent customer service!

GSMguy

12/18/2008, 12:59 PM

Totally, between JR and victor buying one of these will get you some Amazing CS, I think that the new sicce will outperform the eheim 1260 if it does I think this one is really a step up In performance but a step down in ease of cleaning, not that I ever clean my skimmers.

anne08

12/18/2008, 04:41 PM

What is the ETA for this skimmer, I just pre-order mine from http://socaltropicalfish.com and I can't hardly wait, the pump is sick.

GSMguy

12/18/2008, 04:59 PM

ETA is january according to RS website but you should have it faster though because your in Cali and so is Victor.

are you going to use it on the 300G?

victor90

12/18/2008, 07:47 PM

Kona, Here is the picture of the skimmer you wanted. It will be here at the middle to end of january
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/DSCN5927.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/DSCN5929.jpg

anne08

12/18/2008, 07:48 PM

nope, I am setting a 48 by 24 by 20 tank, I think 300g is too big for this skimmer

victor90

12/18/2008, 07:49 PM

JR you are correct

Konadog

12/18/2008, 08:01 PM

:thumbsup: Thanks Victor!

Did you happen to get the foot print size?

victor90

12/18/2008, 08:16 PM

Footprint 16.5L x 14 x 21.5H

Konadog

12/18/2008, 08:45 PM

Sweet!

evad1

12/19/2008, 01:45 AM

msrp??? on dual pump...

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13972026#post13972026 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ATB USA
Kona, Here is the picture of the skimmer you wanted. It will be here at the middle to end of january
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/DSCN5927.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/DSCN5929.jpg

recife111

12/19/2008, 02:05 AM

I personally think the dual pump is a waste of time. one airstar pump will be better than two sicce pumps.
Also the single pump takes up less space.

victor90

12/19/2008, 02:35 AM

I will have the pricing in a couple of days
recife111 thank you for your thoughts we will take it in consideration

rkaires

12/19/2008, 09:22 AM

Hi Victor-

I noticed that the pump volute from the picture on So Cal Tropical Fish outlet is different than the original single pump picture you posted. Is this going to be final production?

Thanks,

Konadog

12/19/2008, 09:51 AM

Looks like the same picture to me.

rkaires

12/19/2008, 10:15 AM

Konadog-

The picture from http://socaltropicalfish.com/ATBEconoSkimmers.html has the original sicce pump volute not the improved version from ATB. I just want to be sure before I pre-order.

victor90

12/19/2008, 02:44 PM

sorry for the confusion the one with the original volute is 50 dollars less
Thanks

rkaires

12/19/2008, 04:01 PM

Thanks Victor!

ostrow

12/19/2008, 04:34 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13977178#post13977178 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ATB USA
sorry for the confusion the one with the original volute is 50 dollars less
Thanks

Less than what? Less than the price on the website, or is the ATB volute an extra $50 on top of that? Just curious what this meant.

I'm following all of the new cone threads closely. I love my skimmer. But I love to play. The temptation will not be easy to resist for long!!

mcliffy2

12/19/2008, 04:44 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13974452#post13974452 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by recife111
I personally think the dual pump is a waste of time. one airstar pump will be better than two sicce pumps.
Also the single pump takes up less space.

I don't think folks would disagree that an airstar is better than 2 sicces, performance-wise. However, the point is that this is an "economy" line, and the unit with the airstar IS more expensive than 2 sicces (look at the Octo Extreme cones for a perfect example). So there is a point - for people who don't mind a couple extra watts and a little more space, they can save money and get about the same performance, so I don't think its a waste of time.

ostrow

12/19/2008, 04:53 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13977922#post13977922 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mcliffy2
I don't think folks would disagree that an airstar is better than 2 sicces, performance-wise. However, the point is that this is an "economy" line, and the unit with the airstar IS more expensive than 2 sicces (look at the Octo Extreme cones for a perfect example). So there is a point - for people who don't mind a couple extra watts and a little more space, they can save money and get about the same performance, so I don't think its a waste of time.

mcliffy, Coralvue doesn't make (or at least, doesn't market) a cone skimmer.

victor90

12/19/2008, 06:18 PM

ostrow, sorry about the confusion standard sicce volute with skimmer 749

custom volute with skimmer 799

Thanks

ostrow

12/19/2008, 09:12 PM

Thanks!!!

recife111

12/20/2008, 03:44 AM

However, the point is that this is an "economy" line, and the unit with the airstar IS more expensive than 2 sicces (look at the Octo Extreme cones for a perfect example). So there is a point - for people who don't mind a couple extra watts and a little more space, they can save money and get about the same performance, so I don't think its a waste of time

Not much of a savings.

victor90

12/20/2008, 02:12 PM

Econo 840 2 minutes after firing up first time
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/KIF_0397.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/KIF_0400.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/KIF_0404.jpg

LCN

12/20/2008, 02:26 PM

Why can't we get a shot like this from the guy testing the WM skimmer?

Konadog

12/20/2008, 02:52 PM

That's the single pump model, the dual pump model is going to be crazy! Very nice.

victor90

12/20/2008, 02:54 PM

The Econo 1060 pics will be available in a few days as well. You like the bubble density?

Konadog

12/20/2008, 02:58 PM

Is the bubble density on the other side of the shaving cream? ;)

GSMguy

12/20/2008, 02:58 PM

looks somewhat Familiar, :)

Anton, your running it way too Deep , lower the water level in the sump, or raise the skimmer to just above the output, all you need is the output submerged or an inch or so above that.

victor90

12/20/2008, 03:56 PM

Sorry guys I made a mistake the dual model will be called the econo 1050 this is the base size and approximate neck size

redmarble

12/20/2008, 05:55 PM

Why call it Econo? Why not give it a nicer name?

victor90

12/20/2008, 05:57 PM

This name was picked out by a distributor do anybody have any recommendations?

ostrow

12/20/2008, 07:22 PM

SWC KO? Just kidding. Couldn't resist.

Konadog

12/20/2008, 07:22 PM

The ATB Lite series! :D

Economy doesn't sound bad either.

victor90

12/20/2008, 07:40 PM

Ostrow, I think that one is already taken

Rwinfrey

12/20/2008, 08:14 PM

How about mini-star series single and dual.Ok now you can send my free one for the new advertising campain hehehehe:D

ostrow

12/20/2008, 08:17 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13984749#post13984749 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ATB USA
Ostrow, I think that one is already taken

Ha!

IMO nobody cares about the name. If it works and is at a suitable price point, the rest is all superficial.

Rwinfrey

12/20/2008, 08:21 PM

no no I got it K1 and K2:lol:

hahnmeister

12/21/2008, 01:23 AM

Funny you guys mention that 'econo' not being the best name... although as of late, 'econo' has become a very trendy thing. But for those not feeling the crunch, or aren't into the whole hybrid car thing... I see what you mean.

I like that model numbering though... like how BMW has its car numbers named after the series, then engine liters. That might not be a bad idea here.

When I think of things I like in Austria, I think of art, Augarten porcelain and loads of other hand crafts that have vanished from the rest of the EU, schnitzel, and Viennese waltzes... heck, and classical music (Mozart from Salzburg). Oh, and skiing (St. Anton anyone?). Oh, and maybe starting WW1... since the Habs were from there (which led to WW2 and every other major conflict since in the 20th century including now). Oh, and my college physics professor... I would recognize his tyrolean accent anywhere... just like the Californicator!!!

Basic

Base

Stock

Schnitzelskim

lol... now Im just having fun.

mojo~

12/21/2008, 09:31 AM

I agree that the skimmer deserves a better name than econo. Lite was good or maybe even just like a E small, E medium ect....

hahnmeister

12/21/2008, 11:55 AM

Basic still sticks to me. Or Schnitzelskimmer...lol.

Orangeman

12/21/2008, 12:22 PM

How about the Easy-Cone or EZ-Cone?

Rwinfrey

12/21/2008, 12:31 PM

how about ready red poo extractor system featuring mini air star foam importers:bum:

kevinlo

12/22/2008, 06:49 PM

Shouldn't the sicce be able to power the medium body as well since it should put out more air than the eheim 1260? How much air is this Sicce with modified volute putting out? And is it possible to get a medium body with a Sicce?

I'm looking for a skimmer for a 180 gallon and powering it with 25 watts sounds good to me!!!

victor90

12/22/2008, 07:13 PM

Kevin,

Yes it would work the sicce on the medium body but it would not work as well as having two sicces. We actually match the body to the pump/pumps. We have ran tests and concluded you would be better with a small than a medium with one sicce.

mcliffy2

12/23/2008, 12:06 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13977977#post13977977 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ostrow
mcliffy, Coralvue doesn't make (or at least, doesn't market) a cone skimmer.

Sorry, meant the SWC cones...

kevinlo

12/23/2008, 07:04 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13997067#post13997067 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ATB USA
Kevin,

Yes it would work the sicce on the medium body but it would not work as well as having two sicces. We actually match the body to the pump/pumps. We have ran tests and concluded you would be better with a small than a medium with one sicce.

Thanks Victor,

I'm setting up a 150 gallon with 30 gallon frag tank. I'm going for a low nutrient sps system but I don't stock heavily and I don't feed as much as most, so I think the small should be fine. A couple more questions:

Are the sicce pumps pretty silent? What is the replacement pump cost should they fail down the road?

Thanks! Kevin

uhuru

12/23/2008, 07:26 PM

victor90

12/23/2008, 07:32 PM

The replacement cost of the sicce pump is 129.00 with the custom volute it is dead quiet but the stock volute its another story, Somedays its noisy and some days its quiet.

rhoptowit

12/27/2008, 05:00 PM

$129

thats pretty good.

victor90

12/27/2008, 08:11 PM

I want to clarify the 129 is for the replacement pump motor not including the custom volute

anne08

12/27/2008, 10:30 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14025009#post14025009 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ATB USA
I want to clarify the 129 is for the replacement pump motor not including the custom volute

how much for the whole thing ?

Rwinfrey

12/29/2008, 07:57 PM

any new pics you can show us maybe of the the duel pump model;)

Konadog

12/29/2008, 08:25 PM

I don't think there is a dual model in yet to test, just the pictures that were sent by Anton.

Rwinfrey

12/29/2008, 08:45 PM

pretty sure there is one made there are pics I would just like to see it in action:D

victor90

12/29/2008, 08:47 PM

Anton is testing them over in Austria

Rwinfrey

12/29/2008, 09:00 PM

could you ask him to post pics Victor that would be mighty cool :smokin: of you

jman77

12/30/2008, 02:49 AM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13969085#post13969085 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jim_S
I love it! For just $150 more customers can get the real deal instead of the SWC (Super Weak Cone or Super Weak Copy) :p! Very nice! These are going to make lots of people very happy this year!

LOL ...your a funny guy Jim....

victor90

12/30/2008, 04:45 AM

Yes Jim is a funny guy

victor90

12/31/2008, 12:14 PM

Econo 1050 testing
Look at the bubble density especially in the neck
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/DSCN5966.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/DSCN5967.jpg

rkaires

12/31/2008, 01:20 PM

Looking good!

Victor I per ordered the Econo 840 from So-Cal last week and noticed the foot print size listed is the same as the 1050. What is the correct foot print size for the 840 or is it the same as the small cone with Ehem 1260?

Thanks,

Konadog

12/31/2008, 01:24 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14049197#post14049197 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ATB USA
Econo 1050 testing
Look at the bubble density especially in the neck :thumbsup: Very nice! One step closer.

GSMguy

12/31/2008, 03:34 PM

Looking good the bubble density is great.

Rwinfrey

12/31/2008, 09:52 PM

mine is in the mail right Victor:lol:

Rwinfrey

01/01/2009, 08:02 AM

hey Nick do you have one of these new pump's on order.I would love to hear your comments on it:)

GSMguy

01/01/2009, 10:47 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14054619#post14054619 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Rwinfrey
hey Nick do you have one of these new pump's on order.I would love to hear your comments on it:)

Yup :)

I Can't wait.

Konadog

01/02/2009, 01:48 AM

Victor, is there any plan to pre tap a drain hole in the collection cups? I can see these filling up quite quickly. I understand that they should be cleaned regularly, and adding a valve will add cost to the skimmer, but having it pre drilled and plugged may be a nice option.

victor90

01/02/2009, 02:19 AM

Kona
On the econo 1050 it should have a pretap drain

Konadog

01/02/2009, 02:25 AM

Thank you Victor.

victor90

01/02/2009, 02:26 AM

Econo 840
Footprint 10.5L x14W x20H
Price 799

Econo 1050
Footprint 14 x 16.5 x 22H
Price 999

rkaires

01/02/2009, 07:49 AM

Thanks,

GSMguy

01/02/2009, 11:21 AM

For those wondering my small with sicce fills the cup in 5 days usually

tfp

01/02/2009, 03:54 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13957904#post13957904 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ATB USA
the main difference is the pump and these skimmers do not disassemble like the other models

Hi Victor, Happy New Years to you and yours!
other than the lid, is the collection cup removable or is the entire skimmer just one piece?

tim

victor90

01/02/2009, 04:34 PM

Tim,
Happy Holidays to you too
No the collection cup comes off still but the cone body does not disassemble

tfp

01/02/2009, 08:03 PM

nice! is that grey ring the coupler and how much clearance is required?

victor90

01/02/2009, 08:09 PM

Its about 3/4 of an inch

tfp

01/05/2009, 12:24 AM

on the Econo 1050, will a water level of 8.5" be ok?

victor90

01/05/2009, 01:42 AM

Tfp
I can't say exactly until I get one here to test myself

rhoptowit

01/13/2009, 04:53 AM

got a release date on the new pump?

victor90

01/13/2009, 05:03 AM

We will have them @ end of january when the shipment comes in

rhoptowit

01/13/2009, 06:09 AM

cool thanks for the response.

Konadog

01/14/2009, 01:12 AM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13972026#post13972026 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ATB USA
Kona, Here is the picture of the skimmer you wanted. It will be here at the middle to end of january
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/DSCN5927.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/DSCN5929.jpg Does it still look like the end of the month?

victor90

01/14/2009, 02:04 AM

Yes
They will be here at the end of the month

SOULEMAN

01/19/2009, 01:44 AM

what are these models rated for in gallons or liters?

victor90

01/19/2009, 03:40 AM

Econo 840 tanks < 249 gallons
Econo 1050 tanks < 480 gallons

Rwinfrey

01/19/2009, 01:12 PM

Hey will they be here at the end of the month:p

victor90

01/19/2009, 09:55 PM

Yes
They will be here at the end of the month
DP

Haxer

01/24/2009, 09:32 PM

Rwinfrey

01/24/2009, 10:45 PM

I just sent payment for mine 1050 w/the airstar and my wife ask me if it would be in bed with us until I fired it up :love2: :lol:

GSMguy

01/25/2009, 12:10 AM

You have to break it in ;)....

Rwinfrey

01/25/2009, 08:38 AM

lol

victor90

02/03/2009, 07:27 PM

Packaged and heading towards the usa
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/DSC00203.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/DSC00209.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/DSC00210.jpg

Konadog

02/03/2009, 07:33 PM

They look like new puppy's all sitting in that bin :D

I can see the drain hole in the collection cup and the custom volutes on the Sicce pumps too. Looks like a nice shipment Victor.

victor90

02/03/2009, 07:37 PM

You are right Kona, i wonder if Anton put drains on the 840's, I know the 1050's come with them. Now imagine unpacking 4 of those pallets

Konadog

02/03/2009, 07:48 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14311144#post14311144 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ATB USA
..... Now imagine unpacking 4 of those pallets Only to have to repack them to send them into the real world! You have plenty of work to do when they show up Victor.

LCN

02/03/2009, 08:32 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14311065#post14311065 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ATB USA
Packaged and heading towards the usa
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/DSC00203.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/DSC00209.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee95/atbusa/DSC00210.jpg

Makes me want to set up another tank.

Rwinfrey

02/03/2009, 10:23 PM

I see mine the one in the middle with the drain hole.I can't wait I love new toys.

victor90

02/04/2009, 02:08 AM

Bob,
You got some good eyes

Rwinfrey

02/04/2009, 06:58 AM

couldn't see my airstar though:D

JRaquatics

02/04/2009, 02:44 PM

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14311144#post14311144 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ATB USA
Now imagine unpacking 4 of those pallets

It's like Christmas all over again.:p

Do you have a price for the upgrade to the airstar yet?

TheReefKeeper

02/04/2009, 08:17 PM

Do you have a price for the upgrade to the airstar yet?

+1

Rwinfrey

02/04/2009, 09:21 PM

are they in the US yet:D :D :D :D

JRaquatics

02/05/2009, 02:01 PM

The ATB Econo 1050 with AirStar 1500 pump will be going for $1199.00 with FREE shipping.

kevinlo

02/09/2009, 01:28 AM

So the Econo 840 has a larger footprint than the small with the Eheim? The small cone is listed as 14 x 8, but the econo is listed as 14 x 10.5. I'm confused, they look like they should be about the same.