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jwither1
12/18/2008, 11:25 PM
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jwither1
12/18/2008, 11:26 PM
I cant get the pictures to go on here can someone tell me how to put them on here thanks

jwither1
12/18/2008, 11:44 PM
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo20/jwither1/014.jpg ok i think i got it. what is this red stuff growing on my rocks. I thought it was cyano but i treated my tank with marcyn plus and it didnt do anything.

jwither1
12/18/2008, 11:46 PM
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo20/jwither1/033.jpg

jwither1
12/18/2008, 11:52 PM
My nitrates are 0 and so is my phasphatehttp://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo20/jwither1/016.jpghttp://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo20/jwither1/029.jpg all of my fish and corals are doing good i dont understand why it is growing is it bad

jwither1
12/18/2008, 11:59 PM
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo20/jwither1/014.jpghttp://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo20/jwither1/034.jpg

jwither1
12/19/2008, 12:00 AM
i use ro/di water and i have an octopus dnw 200 skimmer.

jwither1
12/19/2008, 12:01 AM
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo20/jwither1/035.jpg

jwither1
12/19/2008, 12:03 AM
the reason my skimmer is off is because when i took the picture i was treating my tank with marcyn plus

jwither1
12/19/2008, 12:05 AM
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo20/jwither1/054.jpg

jwither1
12/19/2008, 12:06 AM
nothing grows on my sand just on my rocks

jwither1
12/19/2008, 12:07 AM
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo20/jwither1/032.jpg

jwither1
12/19/2008, 12:14 AM
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo20/jwither1/045.jpghttp://i357.photobucket.chttp://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo20/jwither1/052.jpgom/albums/oo20/jwither1/050.jpg

melev
12/19/2008, 02:08 AM
The age of the tank could be part of the reason you are getting that red outbreak.

I wouldn't dose Maracyn 2 in the reef tank, but rather use it in a hospital tank. The red outbreak doesn't seem that bad, btw. However, if you do end up with a worse Cyano bacteria outbreak, products like "ChemiClean" or "RedSlime Control" will help resolve that in mere days. Please note those names specifically, and don't get something that sounds similar. One is by Boyd Enterprises, the other by Blue Life USA.

For such a large tank, you probably need a little more flow. The four powerheads aren't really enough, in my experience.

Is that UV hooked up after the RO/DI system? Usually when people use a UV, it is plumbing into the system to treat all the water, not just the new water that replenishes the system. That being said, I don't use a UV and if I did, it would only be on the quarantine tank and not my main reef.

jwither1
12/19/2008, 10:10 AM
the uv is ran to the whole tank

LunarDDS
12/20/2008, 08:41 AM
I'm not understanding how that uv is hooked up. What are the filters in that filters array under the uv? It that water coming from the tank, to uv, then filters, then back to the tank?

Genetics
12/20/2008, 10:39 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13982077#post13982077 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LunarDDS
I'm not understanding how that uv is hooked up. What are the filters in that filters array under the uv? It that water coming from the tank, to uv, then filters, then back to the tank?

I am also lost at how the filter set is hooked up to the UV canister? Are you just using the 3-stage as a carbon reactor?

atlantisaquari
12/20/2008, 11:07 AM
it looks like you have a uv canister hooked up to the ro/di. what the? if that is the case , that wouldnt really serve any real purpose. i wouldnt use a uv at all. make sure your calcium and alkalinity is up to snuff. also the pink stuff is prob just a type of coraline algae.

jwither1
12/20/2008, 04:28 PM
are you talking about this picture

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo20/jwither1/054.jpg

if so this isn't a uv its a ro/di unit. its just really big it does like 700 gph

i do have a uv though it is hanging on my sump i dont think you can see it in the picture

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo20/jwither1/050.jpg

jwither1
12/20/2008, 04:29 PM
sorry didnt mean 700 gph ment 700 gallons per day

LunarDDS
12/20/2008, 07:51 PM
oh, now I see. not used to seeing a 700gpd membrane.

how old is the tank and did you use liverock or dead rock to start it. looks pretty white to me. looks like it will just take a while for your tank to get established. you will probably get all kinds of weird stuff growing for a while until your tank figures itself out. just looks like a bare new tank to me.

also, where are those random runs of tubing going/coming in your sump?

dwilly
12/20/2008, 10:13 PM
If you try to rub that stuff off w/ a toothbrush or something and it doesn't come off, it's not cyano. It looks to me like red coraline. You can get coraline in many different colors. I have some red like that in both of my tanks along w/ the more common purple. It's not a problem.

plyr58
12/20/2008, 10:37 PM
I still say it is Coraline algae.

jwither1
12/21/2008, 12:00 AM
the tubes are going to the skimmer, uv, and main tank. the return pump for the tank is split one going to each overflow.

guess is not the best set up lol

jwither1
12/21/2008, 12:03 AM
and for the rock in the tank some of it was fresh figi live rock, and some of it was live rock that i had sitting out for a while. it seems the the fresh rock isnt going the stuff as bad

LunarDDS
12/21/2008, 08:23 AM
Cyano is a pretty thick red film. It you took a toothbrush and rubbed it , it would come off you as if you are peeling off the skin of a tomato. That is definitely not what you have going there so don't dose the med anymore. Just looks like rock that is trying to start coloring up.

mat167
12/24/2008, 11:15 PM
+1 for more flow and +1 on the red coralline. That looks like 4 MJ1200 for 210 gallons...really not a lot. And the red stuff... I had some back before I found this site, and I had only heard of cyano. That was a lot of useless scrubbing lol. Also as it's been mentioned, I wouldn't dose any meds into the display tank, or run a uv for that matter. As long as your corals and fish look healthy, I wouldn't worry too much about it. As soon as the rocks start taking on color you probably won't even notice it anymore.

cybrsufr
12/25/2008, 02:23 AM
+2 on Coralline and +2 on more flow

The red is probably just the new rocks started to get covered with coralline which is a good thing.

Flow definitely needs to be increased. at a minimum I would get the 1900 sureflow mods for the MaxiJet 1200's and even that may not be enough. I have a 180 with a sump room directly below the tank and I have these pumps for my tank. ReeFlo Dart on a 4 way closed loop (3500 gph), PCX100 Return pump (1500gph), 2x Resun Controllable powerheads (Ramp from 500gph to 3000gph ea.), 2x Seio 1100's on a Seio controller (1100gph ea.)

That calculates to approx 12200 gph circulating in my tank each hour.


http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/152688IMG_4892-med.jpg

redfishsc
12/25/2008, 10:27 AM
I do not think it's corraline. The growth pattern, color, and "grainy appearance" screams to me that it's dinoflagellates.


Look around your tank, find places where a pump or outlet blasts up against the tank. Look at that spot and see if you see any of the algae "plating" the glass in that spot---- dinos will do that.

Also, look at them VERY carefully if you find any on the glass--- use a magnifying glass if needed---- and see if they are moving around. They will surprise you how fast they can move. Dinos tend to be large enough to see, barely, with the naked eye.


Getting rid of them, for me, was a simple matter of raising my kH to around 10 or 11, cutting my photoperiod to 4 hours for a week, and dripping kalkwassar (which I did normally anyhow) to help keep a higher pH and to precipitate as much phosphate as possible (I had elevated phosphates at the time).

Percula9
12/25/2008, 12:52 PM
I agree probably red coralline. Power heads should upgraded to Eco-mods to increase flow.

cybrsufr
12/25/2008, 04:18 PM
Dinoflagellates are almost always completely brownish/clear and look like stringy snot with air bubbles throughout them in aquariums. the individual protozoans are not visible with the naked eye but can be seen with a strong magnifying glass or dissecting scope as they are only 90-150 microns in size. The green algae spots that encrust on the glass are Coralline precursors that will turn red, pink, purple or some will stay green. If a person truly has dinos, the best thing to rid them is using a UV sterilizer.

Here is a Borneman article on Dinos
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-05/eb/index.php

Here is a picture of them in an aquarium
http://www.reefcorner.com/images/Dinoflagellates1.jpg

d-town tony
12/25/2008, 08:26 PM
From the looks of your picture it looks as you might have your RO hooked up wrong.

It appears from the lines you are in the wrong order for the last two canisters.

Maybe I'm looking at the picture wrong.

cybrsufr
12/25/2008, 09:32 PM
I just looked back at that picture and I would have to possibly agree. It appears that it is going from 1 micron to Carbon to DI, then to Membrane. The DI canister should be after the membrane.