when can i get the ATI Sunpower??

[cash cow]

hey greg, if your out there, let me know when i can get my hands on the 6 bulb fixture....can i pre-order one? and how long until i can get it.... thanks for your help. please let me know ASAP, i've got some christmas money to burn!

[spsgtr]

give greg a call...if he's not there leave a message. he usually great with getting back to you.

[salty child 79]

Probably never. Thats the impression I got when I asked him about 6-8 months ago.

Which I understand, as ATI takes so long just to get us powermodules.... as you can tell from the huge waiting lists. They have no time leftover to even look at sunpowers i would imagine.

I wanted one of them pretty bad and after 6 months of waiting I decided it was not going to happen.

[cash cow]

man, i hope not!!!! greg said they would probably be coming in january 09...... i've been waiting for it. i wouldn't even know what to get if it doesn't come thru??? i've got the money set aside and i am waiting to go!!

[Oliver P.]

Hi,

as a matter of fact we will send a first wave of sunpowers into the US next month. We already started the Production.

Merry Christmas and a happy new year.

Oliver

[spsgtr]

i just got a powermodule... greg had a new shipment. just call and ask him. it's better to hear it from the horse's mouth...

[The Grim Reefer]

I have a Sunpower here I tested and it is a 120v version. These should be a snap to produce so I would expect them to be able to do a lot better job keeping up with the demand.

[ReefGeek-Greg]

Hi All,

First shipment is in production and should be arriving later this month. If you'd like to pre-order one, please email me at sales@ reefgeek.com with the model you are interested in along with your full name, address and contact phone number and we'll contact you when they arrive. No deposit is required.

ATI 24" 4x24W SunPower T5 High-Output Fixture -- $349.00 w/ Bulbs -- $409.00
ATI 24" 6x24W SunPower T5 High-Output Fixture -- $419.00 w/ Bulbs -- $519.00
ATI 36" 4x39W SunPower T5 High-Output Fixture -- $389.00 w/ Bulbs -- $449.00
ATI 36" 6x39W SunPower T5 High-Output Fixture -- $479.00 w/ Bulbs -- $579.00
ATI 48" 4x54W SunPower T5 High-Output Fixture -- $419.00 w/ Bulbs -- $479.00
ATI 48" 6x54W SunPower T5 High-Output Fixture -- $519.00 w/ Bulbs -- $619.00
ATI 60" 4x80W SunPower T5 High-Output Fixture -- $469.00 w/ Bulbs -- $539.00
ATI 60" 6x80W SunPower T5 High-Output Fixture -- $619.00 w/ Bulbs -- $729.00


Warmest Regards,
Greg @ ReefGeek

[cash cow]

i sent you the email greg............count me in for the 6 bulb- 48" sunpower!!!! can't wait!!!! keep me updated!

[tonym10]

I just sent an email too for the 60" 6 bulb

[goreefers]

email sent Re ATI 48" 6x54W SunPower T5 High-Output Fixture --w/ Bulbs thanks

[malawinovice]

Hello,
I have to tank mount my lights. Any ideas on how to do this with the ati sunpower?

Can the fixture sit right on the tank?

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14306830#post14306830 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by malawinovice
Hello,
I have to tank mount my lights. Any ideas on how to do this with the ati sunpower?

Can the fixture sit right on the tank?

Yep, you will probably want to wipe down the shield every few days just to keep the salt from building up on it but that is no biggie.

[ReefCuber]

anyone have this setup on a tank yet?

[Rewd]

Anything new? Very interested.

[DFason]

I just ordered my 24" 4 bulb yesterday. I will get pictures of it when it comes in next week.

-Dave

[chris82079]

just sent an email to be put in line for one of these!

[tonym10]

I am now off the list as I ordered the Powermodule

[cash cow]

the sunpower is awesome!! looks just like the powermodule, fans are dead silent......Par is unbelievable..........you could cook bacon under this thing!!! I would definately recommend the fiji purple bulb also..........sweet coloring.........

[sunsetSPS]

I was thinking of getting Tek fixture but after reading the T5 threads I've changed my mind and placed pre-order on Sunpower unit. Hope it'll be a right choice.

[SunnyX]

I just put in a Pre-order for the 24" 4x24w for a 2x2x1 frag tank. :D

[boxer385]

would the 6 bulbs at 48 inches be good for a 60x24x24 tank?

[hansmatt]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14773403#post14773403 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by boxer385
would the 6 bulbs at 48 inches be good for a 60x24x24 tank?

I have a 6x54 powermodule over a std 90g that is 18" wide, and it fits perfectly (mixed reef). I would consider seriously a 8x54 for the extra light & bulb combinations (that would mean a PM, not sunpower). I'm looking at going with a new 60" tank, and have found several others who are perfectly happy with the 48" fixtures, as the t5's provide good coverage still.

[Joel A]

i just ordered a 6x54 watt sunpower for my 48"x18"x20" tank... hopefully going to be a good enough light source for an SPS dominated tank, what do you guys think?

[rtparty]

You should be good to go.

[stadler51]

Would the 6x54 watt sunpower be enough light for 48x24x24 with some sps?

[The Grim Reefer]

As long as the SPS are under the lights you would be fine, just don't throw high light critter on the sand away from the direct light.

[finksmart]

Just got hooked up my Sunpower 6x39w for a 4ft tank and it outshines the 48" TX5 wow. It's even given my water shimmers.

WOW.

[etrigo29]

what do you guys think on a 30 x 24 x 16 tank? Go 4 bulb or 6 bulb setup? I was thinking of using the outside perimeter of the tank for less light sensitive corals because of the height

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14896481#post14896481 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by etrigo29
what do you guys think on a 30 x 24 x 16 tank? Go 4 bulb or 6 bulb setup? I was thinking of using the outside perimeter of the tank for less light sensitive corals because of the height

I'd do 6 lamps at least. Should work for what you plan.

[kretzkiller]

oh, I was looking at the power modules anyway.

[kretzkiller]

is it possible to get legs instead of hanging kits for them?

[Macimage]

ATI 60" 6x80W SunPower T5 High-Output Fixture w/ Bulbs -- $729.00

How much does this weigh?

Thanks!

[reef_corgi]

My 6x54w feel like 30 - 35lbs. Not sure about 6x80w. But the powermodule is much heavier than the sunpower.

[The Grim Reefer]

The Sunpower is very light, I'd say the 6 x 54 weighs less than the Tek 6 x 54 I have here but it is the old style tek.

[kretzkiller]

what is the difference between the sun power and the powermodule? I am wondering about output as I realize there are more size options with the powermodule.

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14954923#post14954923 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kretzkiller
what is the difference between the sun power and the powermodule? I am wondering about output as I realize there are more size options with the powermodule.

The PM has a thick molded housing and a slightly different reflector.

[kretzkiller]

is it worth the extra money?

[boxer385]

i need to know because i'm buying either one but leading towards
the 60 inch sunpower.

[ugotfish?]

Anyone know if the dimensions of the 6 bulb sunpower and a 6 bulb powermodule are the same? I'm assuming they are, but just wanted to make sure.

[ddaquaria]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15105933#post15105933 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ugotfish?
Anyone know if the dimensions of the 6 bulb sunpower and a 6 bulb powermodule are the same? I'm assuming they are, but just wanted to make sure.

The sunpower is about a 1/4th" or less deeper and the powermodule is about 1/8th" taller. I can visually see with the 2 lights next to each other.

[ugotfish?]

Thanks DD. Now the other question that hasn't been answered. Performance between the pm and the sunpower. I've got a 125g (72x18x23). I'm assuming there isn't that much difference as far as output. Maybe looking at 10%-20% difference? What are the chances of being able to have clams on the sand with the 6x80 sunpower?

[ddaquaria]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15118216#post15118216 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ddaquaria
The sunpower is about a 1/4th" or less deeper and the powermodule is about 1/8th" taller. I can visually see with the 2 lights next to each other.

After re-reading this after a day of work...that made very little sense

The sunpower is about 1/4" or slightly less in depth than the powermodule.
The powermodule is about 1/8" taller than the sunpower.

I CANNOT visually see the width or heights difference between these two lights and I have them about 3 to 4 feet from each other.

The lights are for freshwater tanks for me, so I can't comment on the clam question.

[mavjoy]

Recommendation for a Red Sea Max tank. Would the 4x24 be sufficient for a SPS dominant tank? I'm thinking of getting the 6x24 Powermodule. Here is the measurements:Dimensions (LxWxH) 24 x 20 x 23.8". I have a mixed reef at the moment but have more SPS than others. Thanks.

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15121867#post15121867 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ugotfish?
Thanks DD. Now the other question that hasn't been answered. Performance between the pm and the sunpower. I've got a 125g (72x18x23). I'm assuming there isn't that much difference as far as output. Maybe looking at 10%-20% difference? What are the chances of being able to have clams on the sand with the 6x80 sunpower?

I would be surprised if it were more than 10%.

[ChuckLawson]

I'm just setting up a 24" x 18" x 12" high frag tank, and was thinking about going with the 24" Sunpower -- I'd like to be able to keep both SPS and LPS in this; should I be looking at the 6 bulb fixture, or would the 4 bulb be enough for this shallow of a tank?

Also, what bulb mix would you recommend to get optimal growth + eye appeal on this?

Thanks!

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15164550#post15164550 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ChuckLawson
I'm just setting up a 24" x 18" x 12" high frag tank, and was thinking about going with the 24" Sunpower -- I'd like to be able to keep both SPS and LPS in this; should I be looking at the 6 bulb fixture, or would the 4 bulb be enough for this shallow of a tank?

Also, what bulb mix would you recommend to get optimal growth + eye appeal on this?

Thanks!

4 should be plenty. I would do 3 ATI Blue Plus and a UVL Aquasun or Actinic White.

[ChuckLawson]

Excellent -- thanks!

[DaveG99]

Im thinking about getting a 6x24 sunpower for a 32"x24"x15" mostly SPS tank. What color combo is recommended.

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15193024#post15193024 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DaveG99
Im thinking about getting a 6x24 sunpower for a 32"x24"x15" mostly SPS tank. What color combo is recommended.

front
ATI Aquablue
ATI Blue Plus
UVL Actinic White
ATI Blue Plus
ATI Blue Plus
ATI Aquablue

[Macimage]

I can't decide between these two options:

60" 6x80W SLR T5 Very High-Output Retrofit Kit w/ Bulbs $719

60" 6x80W SunPower T5 High-Output Fixture w/ Bulbs $729

I want to replace my MH's on my inwall tank. The Sunpower is appealing as it's all put together and has a fan. However, I could stagger the retro bulbs a bit for more coverage at the ends of the tank.

Are the Icecap ballasts and reflectors that much better?

Thanks!

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15212692#post15212692 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Macimage
I can't decide between these two options:

60" 6x80W SLR T5 Very High-Output Retrofit Kit w/ Bulbs $719

60" 6x80W SunPower T5 High-Output Fixture w/ Bulbs $729

I want to replace my MH's on my inwall tank. The Sunpower is appealing as it's all put together and has a fan. However, I could stagger the retro bulbs a bit for more coverage at the ends of the tank.

Are the Icecap ballasts and reflectors that much better?

Thanks!

The thing is if you stagger the lamps you get a little more intensity at the very ends of the tank at the expense of decreasing the intensity at the area 6 to 12 inches from the end.

If your setup would allow you to have the fixture right on top of the tank the ATI is going to have plenty of PAR. If not the Ice Cap retro will be a better choice.

[Macimage]

Originally postedby The Grim Reefer
The thing is if you stagger the lamps you get a little more intensity at the very ends of the tank at the expense of decreasing the intensity at the area 6 to 12 inches from the end.


Ok, I am really dense tonight. If I stagger the retro, the ends of the 72" tank will have lights directly over it.

If I get the fixture, the light will fall off on the last 6", so I'm confused as to how the retro has decreased intensity near the ends.

If I got the fixture I was going too hang it around 6" above the tank. I could go lower though.

Does the Icecap put out more par because the lamps are overdriven?

Thanks!!

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15212891#post15212891 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Macimage
Ok, I am really dense tonight. If I stagger the retro, the ends of the 72" tank will have lights directly over it.

If I get the fixture, the light will fall off on the last 6", so I'm confused as to how the retro has decreased intensity near the ends.

If I got the fixture I was going too hang it around 6" above the tank. I could go lower though.

Does the Icecap put out more par because the lamps are overdriven?

Thanks!!

Yep on the overdriven question.

As far as staggering think about it. If you have 8 lamps and stagger them 6 inches each way to cover the ends you only have 4 lamps covering the 12" on each end of the tank. With them center you have full intensity to all but about the last 6" of the tank. Having only 4 lamps out to the ends isn't going to give you enough of a gain over what spills beyond the 8 lamps to make it worth it. Visually it's hardly noticeable.

This is my old 125 with the 60" lamps centered. They were really to low, about 1 1/2" above the frame of the tank and the ballasts were mounted outside the endcaps on each side which cut out a little linear light spread and it still looked pretty good. The shadows on the upper edges are a little exaggerated in the picture for some reason.

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/38553tank.jpg

[Macimage]

Ok, I've pictured it now.

I have the 60" lamps maybe 5" high over my 180 gallon 72" tank and I really don't see any falloff. I was worried that I may need a few lamps directly over the ends of the 225 as that is where my RBTA's are.

Thanks for posting your tank!

So if I want to hang the fixture 5-6" above the tank, the Icecap retro will work better? Due to it being an inwall, I can't put the fixture directly on the tank.

Thanks!

[The Grim Reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15213070#post15213070 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Macimage
Ok, I've pictured it now.

I have the 60" lamps maybe 5" high over my 180 gallon 72" tank and I really don't see any falloff. I was worried that I may need a few lamps directly over the ends of the 225 as that is where my RBTA's are.

Thanks for posting your tank!

So if I want to hang the fixture 5-6" above the tank, the Icecap retro will work better? Due to it being an inwall, I can't put the fixture directly on the tank.

Thanks!

Yeah, retro. 6" up I think the RTBA will be happy without the lamps right over them. I ran one behind the rocks with the constellation right on a 22" tall tank.

[bigfish13]

I know this is an older thread but i am looking to replace my 3 400w metal halides to T5 and was thinking of the ATI 60" 6x80W SunPower T5 High-Output Fixture. The problem is can this be mounted on my hood. The tank is against the wall in my living room so I cant hang it from the ceiling. Can this be mounted under my hood and if not anyone recommend something better possibly a retro kit. I have a few clams and some SPS corals. The Tank is 220 gallon. Please let me know if anyone has any suggestions. MH have to go the cost is getting crazy to run them

thanks

[ReefGeek-Greg]

Can it be mounted into a canopy? Sure, BUT you need to have good cooling and ventilation in the canopy (i.e. fans and air vents) and adequate space both above and to the side of the fixture.

1. Good Cooling/Ventilation - If the canopy doesn't have good cooling/ventilation and the ambient temperature inside gets hot the fans would be blowing hot air into the fixture which would reduce or eliminate a lot of the benefits of the cooling system reducing bulb output, shortening bulb life and shorting ballasts and fans life.

2. Adequate Space - Another common problem we see with installing a fixture inside a canopy is lack of clearance between the top of the canopy and the fans on the top of the fixture and a lack of space between the hot air exhaust on the side of the fixture and the side of the canopy. At minimum we recommend a gap of 2" between the top of the fixture and the top of the canopy and a gap of 2" between the side of the fixture and the side of the canopy. This is a minimum and ideally more space would be provided.

Another point to consider is that a retrofit would offer the flexibility to add to more bulbs to your set-up down the road while opting for a fixture locks you in to a certain number of bulbs from the start.

Greg @ ReefGeek

[boxer385]

my suggestion would be to use "L" brackets to mount it from each end, i would cut out a section at the top of canopy where the fans would be located so that the air would exit there.

[ReefGeek-Greg]

Air does not exit from the fans at the top... The fans actually blow air into the fixture and the air exits out the side of the fixture opposite the gray power-cord.

Greg @ ReefGeek