View Full Version : who uses the sea water here?

12/28/2008, 09:29 PM
I was wondering who here uses the NSW by fishing it right out of the beaches we have at our disposal?
do you guys have an algae problem because of it?
what filters are you running?

I use a sump and doing a NSW 5 gal swapout weekly (I have a 55 gal) and I have wonderfull algae that wont go away. I have tried using RO and salt mix too. but I think I am going to go right back to the NSW.

12/29/2008, 02:23 AM
keep in mind that you can control what's in artificially mixed water, but NSW could have anything in it, or be missing anything...

12/29/2008, 07:34 AM

Here is a thread from our forum on this particular topic. I have since gone to the RO water after reading all the inputs.


Ocean H2O vs Store Bought H2O?

12/30/2008, 01:21 AM
I have tested the NSW at the beach and you don't want that in your tank. If you were to go out pretty far and gather water maybe, but your best bet is make it. It cost some money but you know what you are getting. I am using coral reef best salt right now. After introducing that, I have noticed a difference. I was using Red Sea and it was ok but it lacks Potassium. Before that I was using NSW and I couldn't get my PO4 to come down, now it is at a reasonable level that my sps are coloring up very well. If you are going to use salt i would do some research on which one is suitable for your tank, since I have a lot of coral I have heard nothing but good things from Coral Reef Best salt. Also I am about to start a full zeovit tank, just waiting on my timer to come in so I can put together my new sump with the zeovit reactor.

12/30/2008, 05:33 AM
hey jeremy how much is it costing you to get the KZ salt mix? and where from? I still havent ordered all my zeo stuff... probably gonna do it this weekend.. so if you know anywhere other than premiumaquatics hook me up :D

12/30/2008, 10:22 PM
Where are you getting your salt from and how much is it? My tank needs some serious help :(

12/30/2008, 11:04 PM
2t2, I have some red sea salt mix if you need some. I order it from drs foster and smith, like 200G worth is I think $42 and shipping is very cheap

12/31/2008, 12:34 AM
red sea coral pro is what i've been using.. but I'm in the process of doing some major upgrades.. a new skimmer, full blown zeovit.. the whole deal..

ordering this bad boy before the clock strikes 12.. haha
if this skimmer is half as badass as people say it is, it's going to rock on my tank

12/31/2008, 01:48 AM
I think that skimmer is a good choice, at the worst I have heard 1 or 2 bad things about the pump. But if you replace that you still have a euro-reef without the price.

12/31/2008, 03:44 AM
ive gotta call jason at PA this evening when they open, it's out of stock and i want to make sure I can still get the sale price.

12/31/2008, 04:11 AM
You gonna be here for a while Lionel? I know you werent sure a few weeks ago when I saw you at grassy knoll. My stand for the 34 is almost done now...had to go back for some more wood the other day.

12/31/2008, 04:43 AM
yeah it looks like im not deploying after all. I have let my tank really slip the last month or so.. because I was pretty sure I was going to have to take the whole thing down. Now that i'm not going anywhere for a while, I've started trying to get everything right again.

12/31/2008, 08:24 PM
hey lionel i am just waiting on my timer and everything. I have everything to run my zeovit system. Today will be the first time i do a water change with RBC salt. I have been increasing my potassium since my tank has been at an extreme low level. Since then my stylophora has shown improvement in color again. How are you sps doing? Hopefully the weather will break one of these days on the weekend so i can go get more coral.

01/01/2009, 03:41 AM
my poor tank has suffered due to lack of attention.. but it's coming along

01/03/2009, 05:25 PM
damn I need to check these forums more often, esp my PMs.

Hey Lionel, who do I ask for when I call?

01/03/2009, 06:01 PM
me :P

01/03/2009, 07:03 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14072444#post14072444 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lionel
me :P

wasn't sure if that was just your handle or if it is your name.

I'm bored sitting at work waiting on the 1st/1st :mad2:

01/03/2009, 08:24 PM
waiting on the army? lol

it's about time someone had to wait on us for a change !

do you need water today?

01/03/2009, 08:35 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14073442#post14073442 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lionel
waiting on the army? lol

it's about time someone had to wait on us for a change !

do you need water today?

just rub it in. :lol:

Naw it's okay... hell I still need to buy some salt to mix.

What container do you use to store the water in? One of these days I'll have to show you my tank, though you'll have to brace yourself for either a laugh or a heart attack... mine gets borderline swamp, plus my lights need to be replaced but getting the funding pass from my better half is the hard part :rolleye1:

01/03/2009, 09:08 PM
yeah i think ive got it easy sometimes.. my better half is into photography.. her crap costs more than my crap !! (is it even possible?!?!)

Paul B
01/28/2009, 01:23 PM
I use NSW in my reef, I collect it in NY right neat the city. I have only been using it for 40 years so I can't form an opinion yet. :D

01/28/2009, 02:08 PM
Thanks for the input Paul, I bet our water here is cleaner than yours too. LOL.

and on behalf an entire forum section of military members (currently active or prior service) thank you for your service during Vietnam.


Paul B
01/28/2009, 02:11 PM
Crash, thank you, I really appreciate it and thank you for your service.

01/28/2009, 02:38 PM
I use NSW here on Okinawa. I always try to collect from the incoming tide. I have no issues. If you analyze the water, you will find it is high in salinity...1.030, low in calcium....370-390 and I have always been way low in magnesium....1100. Everything else is as we consider "in range". I find it funny that some go out and collect the animals from the water, but then are afraid to use the same water in their aquariums. I figure that I am trying to replicate their natural environment and give them what they are used to. What better way than to use the water I collected them from?

Wow. Paul B using NY seawater. I have seen your tank going on 30+ years now so it must work. But, I don't think I would have ever gotten enough courage to use North Atlantic seawater from any place that close to New Jersey or the Hudson...LOL!

Thanks for the input.

Paul B
01/28/2009, 02:41 PM
I don't use 100% NSW. If it was not as heavy I would though. I find it surprising that people on the coast would use ASW.
All of our animals came from NSW, none of them came from ASW, whats the problem?

01/28/2009, 04:26 PM
I think that it sometimes has to do with WHERE (like at a oil-saturated surface water of a Marina) we get the NSW as opposed to WHAT we get fr seawater (ASW/NSW) You can go to the shoreline of a stagnant type and come home with more polution than what you're trying to replace...Yes, my newbie mistake #3; going out to Hamahiga Isnaf and getting water right from the channel...I didn''t think the car battery that had been there for 6 years any longer made a difference, afterall, it wasn't causing any chemical corrosion to the bicycle laying right next to it...eek:

01/29/2009, 04:11 AM
I have collected water from a couple places and the water was high in po4. When I switched over to ASW i didn't have that issue anymore. Even running GFO I could not get it down in a year! Everyone has their prefence and from my experience I choose to make my own.

01/30/2009, 04:33 AM
anybody know what ACOs hours are during the weekend and week?

01/30/2009, 05:22 AM
PM Sango-chu.

02/01/2009, 08:24 AM
3-6 in the evening everyday.

02/01/2009, 02:27 PM
They told me that they open at 1000 everyday and that they "close" at 1800 because that is when their MHs are set to go off. I have purchased things there though at noon and 1900. It really comes down to whether they are there or not. I have also gone during their regular hours....even at 1600 and there was just no one there. Hope that helps.

02/01/2009, 03:07 PM
it does help, thanks