View Full Version : Vinegar for Aiptasia?
Chris&Mel
12/29/2008, 06:07 PM
I have some "Stop Aiptasia" and I find that it looks like it works (at first) then they come back fast. Now I've been told that vinegar is suposed to work well, I just tryed it and it apears to be working.
Do you need to push the needle into it or just get some on them?
I pushed the nettle in and so far they haven't come back.
rickofco
12/29/2008, 06:44 PM
X2 on the vinegar.
Chris&Mel
12/29/2008, 06:46 PM
see, my problem is.....when i try to do that they suck into the rock, so i have been spraying a little in there hole....will this work?
Chris&Mel
12/29/2008, 08:20 PM
bump
rickofco
12/29/2008, 08:24 PM
I would try and see but , imo if you can inject with a needle will work better.
jenglish
12/29/2008, 08:42 PM
have you tried kalk paste? I know it you can just get it into its mouth rather than inject it into the stalk. If they are small I find peppermint shrimps work well. I can't inject into aptasia due to a resting tremor in my hands so these are some of the non injecting techniques I have used. I hear a blow torch works too ;)
Chris&Mel
12/29/2008, 08:55 PM
Unforunatly, in our little town its hard to get any specialty products like kalk...lol...I know that sounds absurd but Im lucking to get a bucket if Instant Ocean for under $100 bucks around here.
paraletho
12/29/2008, 09:47 PM
+1 on the vinegar but you do need to get it in the Aptasia. I sneak up on them and then go in quick. A good sharp insulin needle small gauge. I go for the mouth or the close to the base in the stem. I haven't had one come back yet.
Indermark
12/29/2008, 09:48 PM
are you injecting vinegar into the aptaisa while it is in the tank or in a specimen container/bowl?
Chris&Mel
12/29/2008, 10:21 PM
In the tank....if I took them all out....I wouldn't have any rock left in the tank....lol
But I am carefull not to do to many a day (2 small seringes)
jenglish
12/29/2008, 10:49 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14038748#post14038748 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Chris&Mel
Unforunatly, in our little town its hard to get any specialty products like kalk...lol...I know that sounds absurd but Im lucking to get a bucket if Instant Ocean for under $100 bucks around here.
Kalk is not a specialty item. Its good old fashioned pickling lime. I buy mine at Krogers. Its like 3 dollars for a years worth as much as I use it. Kalk is just german for lime. I believe the process was first popular in germany and now we all like to sound fancy instead of saying limewater :) It may be harder to find now that its out of season but just check in the canning supplies at the walmart or grocery store. Honestly when I used kalk paste it was clogging the needle but it was a very small needle.
Chris&Mel
12/29/2008, 10:56 PM
So....just any pickling lime mix?....or is there a brand that is better?
jenglish
12/29/2008, 11:18 PM
Brand name doesn't matter as long as its just pickling lime and not some flavor for making pickles. The only brand I ever see is Mrs Wages but surely there are others out there. It has no ingrediants label because it is just lime. If there is an ingredient label and it lists anything besides lime then pass. HTH
singold
12/29/2008, 11:46 PM
Try Peppermint Shrimp for long term control, also.
http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l349/singold/PeppermintShrimp512.jpg
mb167204
12/29/2008, 11:50 PM
I have two peppermints in there and the aiptasia doesnt seem to be disappearing at all
jenglish
12/29/2008, 11:58 PM
it can take peppermints quite a while. You would need a lot to deal w/ a heavy infestation. I put in one in a 30 gallon w/ maybe 8-12 on one rock and I think it was a month before he ate them all. I also fed lightly during that time and They were all small. The really big ones must sting harder but peppermints tend to ignore the monsters. Your mileage may vary
stricknine
12/30/2008, 12:48 AM
BC,CA? Take a look at JL aquatics online out of BC. Cant be too bad shipping req's from them...
...and be patient! Takes a while to get it all going. The best advice I got was from a LFS worker, "DONT put any kind of chemical or addative into the tank for a year minimum, you cant cure cancer with asprin". Anything you add prior to a year will cause more harm than good. (other than RODI with a touch of salt!)
slimy fish
12/30/2008, 01:51 AM
I also have used vinegar with dood success. I would also recommend peppermint shrimp, they work great. You may have to limit the feeding of other tank mates. THe less food you put in the less the shrimps will get and the more likely they will start to eat the aptasia
jenglish
12/30/2008, 09:01 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14040509#post14040509 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by stricknine
BC,CA? Take a look at JL aquatics online out of BC. Cant be too bad shipping req's from them...
...and be patient! Takes a while to get it all going. The best advice I got was from a LFS worker, "DONT put any kind of chemical or addative into the tank for a year minimum, you cant cure cancer with asprin". Anything you add prior to a year will cause more harm than good. (other than RODI with a touch of salt!)
I don't know if I quite agree with that. While I think most people take it too far dumping a dozen bottles of additives in I think that it is going too far to the other extreme to say there is not reason to add anything for a whole year. Some people will have quite high calcium requirements within a year and begin to need kalk or some other way of adding calcium. I would advise not to add anything you don't know the repercussions of and can test for.
reefconcepts
12/31/2008, 08:31 AM
Tabasco! I take a syringe with a point on the end, a drop or two, that's it. You need to get the point into the pest if possible. In the hole it shrinks into will work but not a well. Once in a while you might get one that doesn't croak on the first shot but have never had one go past the second go round. I have never had a bad outbreak of aiptasia, just a few pest along the way in a new system. This has worked for me. Tabasco, it's not just for shrimp cocktail anymore.
wshfulthkn
12/31/2008, 09:04 AM
And the top ingredient in Tabasco is...
(drum roll)
Vinegar.
http://www.tabascoingredients.com/products/prod_liquid_red.cfm
reefconcepts
12/31/2008, 10:05 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14048801#post14048801 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wshfulthkn
And the top ingredient in Tabasco is...
(drum roll)
Vinegar.
http://www.tabascoingredients.com/products/prod_liquid_red.cfm
I would rather take a swig of vinegar than a swig of Tabasco, I think the aiptasia feel the same. There are many ways to solve a problem, just saying what has worked for me.
reefdat
01/22/2009, 09:58 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14048642#post14048642 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefconcepts
Tabasco! I take a syringe with a point on the end, a drop or two, that's it. You need to get the point into the pest if possible. In the hole it shrinks into will work but not a well. Once in a while you might get one that doesn't croak on the first shot but have never had one go past the second go round. I have never had a bad outbreak of aiptasia, just a few pest along the way in a new system. This has worked for me. Tabasco, it's not just for shrimp cocktail anymore.
Thanks, Did not think it would be that simple, tried it and gone! WOW! Guess what? There is a lot of Tabasco here in LA. made here ya know.
reefconcepts
01/23/2009, 08:56 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14220065#post14220065 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefdat
Thanks, Did not think it would be that simple, tried it and gone! WOW! Guess what? There is a lot of Tabasco here in LA. made here ya know.
Another part of that I did not mention is if conditions are right and you can get to the Aiptasia with a turkey baster after you zap it, you should be able to suction out the carcass and remove it from the reef. You should wait a few seconds for the Aiptasia to feel the full effect of the Tabasco. For a turkey baster, I went to NAPA and got a battery filler. It is like a turkey baster but b-i-g!
Chris&Mel
01/23/2009, 09:06 AM
So...if you can't get the carcass out....is that a bad thing?
brianx45
01/23/2009, 09:46 AM
You can try berghia nudibranch's, they are a predator to only aiptasia's, and you don't have to add any chemicals to your tank.
reefconcepts
01/23/2009, 10:35 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14222420#post14222420 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Chris&Mel
So...if you can't get the carcass out....is that a bad thing?
No, that is not a bad thing. Just the more of it you can get out the better, I think. Not sure if the berghia or the shrimp get everything out. Some of it is still in it's hole they seem to live, the berghia and shrimp can't get to and get it all out I bet. I am not saying the the baster will get it all, but you will be amazed what the baster will get. I am not saying not to use the shrimp, berghia or other "juices" I am saying this works for me. It is only a few drops per pest so I do not think the that small amount of "chemical" will effect your reef. That is not to say that if you need to zap one next to your prize coral it would not be good to "fan" any Tabasco away. I have never had a problem or a negative experience from Tabasco. No, I do not own stock in Tabasco.
reefconcepts
02/07/2009, 01:18 PM
Aiptasia and Tabasco. Just an update on this. For the ones that were afraid to use Tabasco, I have another remedied for you. Take a syringe and fill it about 1/2 way with the salt you use for your your aquarium. Now fill it the rest of the way with water from your aquarium or just RO water. Shake it up and try to get the tip of the syringe in the mouth of the pest. They will shrivel up so a direct hit may not be possible. Anyway drip a few drops in the pest will do. Do not over do it as the extra salt might burn an animal that is close, two or three drops will do. To the ones that did try the Tabasco and it worked for you, thanks.
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