Moving Riccordia

[Ronny#66]

I have a Riccorida that is being shaded by a large coral atatched to the same live rovk above it. Its very small seeing it doesn't open anymore and how do i go about removing it off this live rovk. Can't move live rock so small it may float away. do it during water change suck it up same time as i remove it. Please explain step by stem how to remove rand reatach .

Thanks Ronny

[seapug]

You won't get the Ric of the rock without mutilating it. Best bet is to chip off part of the rock it's attached to.

[Ronny#66]

ya chiping was mentioned by DR. Foster & Smith but realy would be hard to do . Can't cut it with exacto knife or razor blade ? ?

[divewsharks]

if you try to cut it off the rock, you will likely kill it. why is the chipping suggestion so difficult, LR is often very easy to break as it is so porous.

[Ronny#66]

Well i have a very nice large coral above it if you could see the situation it will more than likely affect the big coral .

Ronny

[kel2682]

Posting a pic will help to better understand the situation but +1 on the chiping I think a razor will def kill it

[Ronny#66]

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh276/ronny148/100_4594.jpg

Heres a pic of the live rock and coral in ? If you look at the three mushrooms in lower botton right of pic. Look at the mushroom at the left Look directly obove it at the coral the golden one in middle of live rock just to the left of middle you see a little whie spot .Thats the closed Riccordia. BestI can do with the pic. Thats the spot I want to remove . By the way what is the gold coral it was given to me? By the way the live rock piece is super glued .
Ronny

[Ronny#66]

Boy you realy can't see anything here !!

[kel2682]

was it ever opened????Why not jus leave it???
I think i see what you mean

[divewsharks]

i'm having a hard time figuring out which you are referring too.
at the very top you have what look like Xenia, below that you have small blue shrooms, an orange ric and green zoas then some green striped shrooms and some more blue shrooms.
Which is it closest too?

[ReefFreek917]

2 Suggestions:

1) Learn how to type so it isnt a struggle to read your posts.

2) Explain a little better on where the picture is the coral you are referring to. Nobody wants to play "Wheres Ric"

[Ronny#66]

You know reef you can if you can't read my posts then don't bother to post to them. Theres a thread about people like you here. You should read it!! What I realy want to say to you they just would remove . Hows that for typing ??

Ronny

[Ronny#66]

It was open Kel before the Zenia got so large Sory for the bad pic so small now hard to see . But anyway thanks for the help. Just wanted to move it so it would open and do well.
Ronny

[seapug]

Take it easy, ReefFreek917. Bad grammar can be a bit annoying, but everyone makes typos. When I see "live rovk" it's pretty easy to tell the person was trying to say "live rock". C and V are close enough on the keyboard to figure it out. In addition, most people know what a Ricordea is. If you don't know what something is, do a Google search before phrasing your reply in such a way that tries to insult the OP for not pointing it out to you. It doesn't make you look smarter.

Ronny, that ricordea looks quite happy and healthy right where it is so there's no need to move it if you are concerned about it's well being.

[Ronny#66]

The ricordia the big one is not the one I'm talking about you realy can't see it . It's right under the smaller zenia by the heater on the narrow piece of live rock under the smaller zenia .

[Ronny#66]

It was half the size if the ricordia in pic before the zenia got bigger. Just wanted to move it so it got more light so it would look like the large one here.

[kel2682]

ya settle down reeffreek really why bother posting at all useless!!!!!!!!

[michellejy]

I can't really figure out where the ricordea you are asking about is from the picture, but the other one you have is under a bit of an overhang and seems to be doing fine, so my first guess would be it's not really a lighting issue. I've seen varying opinions about how aggressive xenia is (a far as chemicals, not growth). Do you have a powerhead blowing across the xenia to where the ricordea is?

[Ronny#66]

Boy I with I could point to where it is. look under the small zenia see the snail or crab right under the golden polyps i guese thats what there called just left of the crab or snail the whole zenia and piece of live rock it's atatched to looks loke a toad stool . The ricordia you can't see is in middle of the shaft which is the live rock . I can't explain it any better.

[Ronny#66]

No power head.

[michellejy]

Ronny, if you don't mind, pm me your email. I edited the pic to circle what you are talking about, but photobucket has some sort of script running that keeps shutting down my browser every time I open it. I can send you the picture to upload so people can see what you are talking about. Hopefully I got it right. :)

I can see now why you need to move the ric, but I don't have any great ideas aside from either removing some of the xenia or chiseling the rock starting at the top so you snag some of the xenia with the ric. Of course, that would most likely completely freak out everything in your tank since you can't remove the rock.

[divewsharks]

while i still can't see exactly what you are talking about, if you are worried about the xenia encroaching (which i would be) and actually either way; frag out the xenia, from your quick description of its history in your tank, it appears to have gone 'weed' on you which is quite common.
make some frags out of it, take them into your LFS for store credit or just kill it back.

[Ronny#66]

Whats gone weed mean ? Or kill it back all greek to me ??

[Ronny#66]

Whats easiest way to frag that zenia above the riccordia ? Then I i will glue the zenia back where it is taks bottom half where riccordia is glue it where it will flourish .

Ronny

[Ronny#66]

How do you know when a coral is getting too big for it's own good ? And needs to be fraged .

Ronny

[Ronny#66]

Need answer to the last ? I posted thanks .

[jkrentz2515]

When it starts to touch other corals and basically kills them.

[Ronny#66]

Easiest way to fracture live rock to create a frag

[divewsharks]

when i say 'gone weed' i'm referring to what Xenia can do to a tank, the same way a weed can take over a garden. Xenia if given the right environment can completely take over a take, they won't stop growing and spreading to the point they harm/kill other corals. Xenia can be attractive but it must be pruned and controlled. You'll find alot of people start with Xenia, but then alot completely remove it from their tanks as their tastes change or as they decide they don't want to battle with it any longer; or alternatively, they isolate it so that it cannot spread beyond the rock it is on. You can do so by creating an island, with sand surrounding the rock which it is attached too.
To create frags of xenia you can either break the rock that it is on leaving a complete base from with the polyps are extending or put a small rock or something easily movable in its path, the xenia will grow right over this new obstacle, you can then remove this piece and trade it with fellow reefers or take it to a LFS for store credit.
In your case I would recommend breaking the rock which it is on and shrink your colony. You can break the rock with chisel & hammer or if the piece is thin enough a pair of pliers. The rock is normally pretty easy to break due to its porous nature.
If the rock is super-glued to another piece you can still break the large chunk in the same manner.

[Ronny#66]

Dive got answer I need thanks oh ya how long can coral be out of water ?

[divewsharks]

some corals are more sensitive than others, but you have at least a few minutes to play with, the less time the better of course.