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chris0799
01/27/2009, 10:37 PM
ok i have a 25 gallon reef tank. in the last 2 days 3 of my fish have died. i have a 40 power filter and a lee's protein skimmer. 20lbs. of live rock. al my levels r good. my ph is a lil hight tho. its 8.6. i also use some other chemicals ne a week such as stress zyme, and some aquavitro chemicals such as fuel, ions, vibrance, balance, and calcification. plzz help me. whats wrong. y is everything dying?

SeanT
01/27/2009, 10:40 PM
How long has this current tank been up and running?

TheORKINMan
01/27/2009, 10:42 PM
Moreover it's highly unlikely yuo need to be dumping all of those chemicals into a 25 gallon tank.

Sisterlimonpot
01/27/2009, 10:44 PM
what kind of fish?

MileHighFish
01/27/2009, 11:22 PM
water changes are all you need to supplement chemicals, I'm sure you way over dosed with a pH of 8.6.. Quick jumps in pH are stressful to fish.

nemodude
01/27/2009, 11:33 PM
yea, I agree with TheORKINMan. You don't really need to add all those chemicals to your tank. They already get there through partial water changes and artificial salt mixes have them in the proper ratios as in natural seawater. when dosing so many things like that, they are most likely not in there proper proportions and you could be stressing your fish/corals more than you're helping them.

I've learned from experience that it is alot better to let a system naturally balance itself rather than to "force" amazing water parameters to happen.

returnofsid
01/28/2009, 09:54 AM
Stop adding ANYTHING that you aren't testing for. Also, I find it hard to believe all your water parameters are fine and here's why. You've had 3 of your fish die, in the last 2 days, in a 25 gallon aquarium. This statement leads me to believe you still have more fish in your 25 gallon aquarium, which leads me to believe you had more than 3...ya with me so far? Now here's the part that you're not going to like. 3 fish is TOO MANY fish for a 25 gallon aquarium.

FishNFun
01/28/2009, 10:37 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14262341#post14262341 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by returnofsid
Now here's the part that you're not going to like. 3 fish is TOO MANY fish for a 25 gallon aquarium.

Without knowing more about his tank and the kind of fish, you don't have enough information to make that statement. It depends on the fish and the filtration. Now if he's got three lion fish then three is too many. If he's got three small chromis then I'm betting he's OK with three. In any case, the OP needs to properly test his critical tank parameters and stop adding chemical junk to his tank.

kstallbe
01/28/2009, 12:52 PM
Seems OP has a lot of learning to do.

OP, many of us have been there before. Please take this "opportunity" as a hard lesson learned. There is a lot to learn to get this hobby running "smoothly."

I think you likely need to re-evaluate your system set-up. After that do a lil' more research on stocking and maintenance. The "New to Hobby" forums is full of helpful peeps.

And...
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returnofsid
01/28/2009, 01:09 PM
Unless they're tiny, NANO, fish, 3 fish is too many for a 25, even if they're Chromises. It's not really critical to know what type of fish the OP has, there's VERY few fish small enough to allow 3 or more in a 25 to live a healthy life.

JennyL
01/28/2009, 01:20 PM
Hi Chris0799,
I noticed in another thread you have two clowns. Can you list everything you had/have in the tank? I believe you also have a bubble tip anemone.

Also it would be very helpful if you would list all your perameter readings in actual numbers.
Just saying they are fine doesn't really tell us anything. We may be able to spot something you have missed.

I also agree that adding all these chemicals is not a good idea and may have been one of the factors in the deaths.

Providing as much information as possible really helps others to help you.

Aquabucket
01/28/2009, 01:27 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14263805#post14263805 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by returnofsid
Unless they're tiny, NANO, fish, 3 fish is too many for a 25, even if they're Chromises. It's not really critical to know what type of fish the OP has, there's VERY few fish small enough to allow 3 or more in a 25 to live a healthy life.

Normally I tend to agree with overstocking but 3 small fish in a 25 is fine. I had a sleeper goby, six-line wrasse and a bi-color blenny in a thriving skimmerless 20 gallon for 2 years.

spsfreak
01/28/2009, 01:47 PM
Agreed, we really need to know more about your setup to really give any worth while adivce. Again test your parameters, post the results, along with tank inhabitants - alive and the ones that died; this will give us more of a picture to help you with. Oh, welcome to Reef Central.

flower
01/28/2009, 02:09 PM
The first thing that I would do is a water change. This should remove some of the chemicals that were added.
Good luck.