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JohnL
02/06/2009, 09:17 AM
This thread was automatically split due to performance issues. You can find the rest of the thread here: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=14331935#post14331935

drstupid
02/06/2009, 09:17 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14331465#post14331465 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JRaquatics
1) Silicon Lube
2) Teflon Tape
3) PVC cleaner
4) PVC glue
5) Pump or plumbing for feeding the skimmer
6) Return plumbing (pipe, unions, tees, etc.)
7) Our # 773-851-3861

8) 4 gallons of mix water available to fill the monster.

drstupid
02/06/2009, 09:18 AM
i split the thread :-)

amay121
02/06/2009, 09:24 AM
Oh yeah, forgot about the whole vinegar dealio. Thanks all. Oh oh, what about patience? Seems like quite a few folks have gotten PO'd when trying to put this thing together. :)

JRaquatics
02/06/2009, 09:31 AM
Reeflo doesn't recommend using vinegar with their pumps and may void warranty.

amay121
02/06/2009, 09:35 AM
Ooops, I mean, uh, saltwater. :)

Rueg
02/06/2009, 09:43 AM
I noticed the same thing when I upgraded to the RS cup - power consumption jumped around around 10-20 watts because of the additional water being pushed. Can't wait to get the RS wheel to see the power consumption drop back down. Over time it should pay for itself in lower electricity costs.

drstupid
02/08/2009, 07:05 AM
my new needlewheel broke in yesterday... came down to find the top off bucket empty and the skimmate bucket full of water! i have a float switch in the lid of the waste bucket to shut off the recirc pump, i had never needed it before in a year of use but am very glad i took the precaution now. once again, thank you RC.

after ten days of use, the new reeflo needlewheel definitely produces finer bubbles. i've been running the water level lower to prevent overflow, it used to be near the neck of the collection cup with the needlewheel off, now is about 1/2" above where the cylinder starts to reduce. this suggests it is putting a larger volume of air in the skimmer, i don't have a dwyer meter to confirm that though. there may be some other dynamic going on that i don't understand.

the bubbles in the neck of the cup are more uniform and the head of foam is more stable, even though it's noticably more turbulent in the skimmer body. the column of bubbles go so far up the neck it would have been running "wet" before, but the foam head is more like i'm running it "dry", very nasty and thick.

overall, a very worthwhile upgrade to perform if you have an original 200. and a strong suggestion that the latest version with this wheel and the dart gold is even more performant than the original, even if nothing else in the physical design changed.

it makes me want to do some more tweaks, i've been considering replacing the valved barb going into the venturi with a straight barb. the bubble production is so different i get the feeling this new wheel may benefit from access to more air.

JRaquatics
02/08/2009, 07:25 AM
Thanks for the update drstupid. Sounds like all good new. Do you by any chance have a kill-a-watt to test the wattage?

drstupid
02/08/2009, 08:36 AM
i don't, i'm afraid of those things.

JRaquatics
02/08/2009, 08:41 AM
Afraid of a kill-a-watt?

drstupid
02/08/2009, 09:19 AM
i have three sequence pumps on my system. i am scared to death of that thing.

some things are better left unknown.

serpentman
02/09/2009, 06:24 AM
Installed the cup upgrade last week. Here it is after running overnight.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i223/serpentman2000/DSCF7596.jpg

So far, I am very happy as it definitely allows for better tuning, especially when running dry. Looking forward to the NW upgrade....

JRaquatics
02/09/2009, 07:39 AM
That already looks sick. Can't wait till we get the corrected wheels in and get one out to you. Where do you have your air line going to? You will also want to consider getting a straight barb fitting for the air line because with the upgrade wheel the valve will restrict the increase in airflow.

eran
02/09/2009, 08:32 AM
Tank:
72" * 34" * 24"(255 gal.) - starfire on 3 sides
euro braced
48" external overflow w/ 3- 1 1/2" drains and 2- 1" returns
black silicone
Polished edges

Total H2O volume will be about 350gal. I am torn between 3 skimmers:

Orca 200, Orca 250, and the hurricone cat-2 external

help me make a choice. I like the Orcas because i can upgrade if needed to the pro version. Or just go with it from the begining!

amay121
02/09/2009, 08:35 AM
Eran,

Question here is,

1) Will you upgrade, if yes (Go with the 250)
2) If no, the 200 or the hurricone should suffice.
3) Or just go with the 250 and never look back. :)

JRaquatics
02/09/2009, 08:48 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14353682#post14353682 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by eran
Tank:
72" * 34" * 24"(255 gal.) - starfire on 3 sides
euro braced
48" external overflow w/ 3- 1 1/2" drains and 2- 1" returns
black silicone
Polished edges

Total H2O volume will be about 350gal. I am torn between 3 skimmers:

Orca 200, Orca 250, and the hurricone cat-2 external

help me make a choice. I like the Orcas because i can upgrade if needed to the pro version. Or just go with it from the begining!

Out of the 3 I would go with the Reeflo 250 Pro for your setup due to the sale spice that is being offered at this time. I would take advantage of it and get the Reeflo 250 pro and not look back. (You wont need to even if you add on to your system in the future;) )

serpentman
02/09/2009, 09:05 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14353357#post14353357 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JRaquatics
That already looks sick. Can't wait till we get the corrected wheels in and get one out to you. Where do you have your air line going to? You will also want to consider getting a straight barb fitting for the air line because with the upgrade wheel the valve will restrict the increase in airflow.

I am definitely looking forward to it. I am running the airline outside to bring in fresh air to combat low pH. Whereabouts would I get the straight barb fitting?

JRaquatics
02/09/2009, 09:19 AM
Local hardware store like an ACE Hardware.

eran
02/09/2009, 10:13 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14353785#post14353785 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JRaquatics
Out of the 3 I would go with the Reeflo 250 Pro for your setup due to the sale spice that is being offered at this time. I would take advantage of it and get the Reeflo 250 pro and not look back. (You wont need to even if you add on to your system in the future;) )

That's a done deal!! thanks

JRaquatics
02/09/2009, 10:17 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14354361#post14354361 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by eran
That's a done deal!! thanks
:thumbsup: Anytime

panic
02/13/2009, 08:36 AM
Mine's in, now how do I make it make some junk?! I'm making good bubbles so far, does it take a couple of weeks to pull some sludge?

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b243/ocd_reef/IMG_6540.jpg

JRaquatics
02/13/2009, 08:58 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14385841#post14385841 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by panic
Mine's in, now how do I make it make some junk?! I'm making good bubbles so far, does it take a couple of weeks to pull some sludge?

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b243/ocd_reef/IMG_6540.jpg

Just answered your PM. I am sorry to inform you the output tee is way too high. It really needs to be set at or bellow the Reeflo lettering. Everything else looks good, but the output will need to be lowered otherwise when it breaks in you will not be able to adjust the skimmer. You can cut the center of the pipe in half shorten one length to size and get a 1.5 rubber boot to couple the pipe together.

We recommend that any one that purchases a Reeflo skimmer from us to give us a call so we can walk you through the process. It is free and is part of our personal customer service package when you buy a skimmer from us.

heartandsoul
02/14/2009, 07:01 AM
hi all.. i have the reeflo 200 with the reef gold pump. i put a mag 9.5 for the intake pump. i still have to turn the pvc skimmer pipe to almost closed to get the bubbles up to around the middle of the cup. Should i need to turn the pvc that close to it being closed to get it this way?

wardworld
02/14/2009, 07:06 AM
JR, could you point me to a link w/ basic set-up instructions for the Orca 200? I bought one used off RC, but no instructions were included.
Thanks,

JRaquatics
02/14/2009, 07:07 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14393074#post14393074 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by heartandsoul
hi all.. i have the reeflo 200 with the reef gold pump. i put a mag 9.5 for the intake pump. i still have to turn the pvc skimmer pipe to almost closed to get the bubbles up to around the middle of the cup. Should i need to turn the pvc that close to it being closed to get it this way?

If possible post a pic of how the skimmer is setup and how long it has been running.

heartandsoul
02/14/2009, 07:38 AM
it has been running for about a month now. iam new to the forum and tried to upload a pic. but the pic is a .jpg and wont allow me to.

JRaquatics
02/14/2009, 07:39 AM
Can you email the pic? [email protected]

heartandsoul
02/14/2009, 07:52 AM
i tried to resize the pics down to 50kb but they show up so small its too hard to see anything

heartandsoul
02/14/2009, 07:55 AM
emailing them to u.. thanks.

heartandsoul
02/14/2009, 07:59 AM
i noticed in the pics of your skimmer u have a white fitting on the bottom of the air chamber up top. why? The top of your lid has holes drilled in it. Why? Iam trying to get the best set up for my tank. Its a 220 reef tank with 10 fish in it. About 400lbs of live rock..

JRaquatics
02/14/2009, 08:54 AM
I modded my silence for ozone entry. The Pro cup has air holes in it. The stock cup did not. However I would suggest that you do drill holes in the outer parameter of the lid to allow the skimmer to breath easier. I would also like to get your order number to see what impeller you are running on your skimmer. You also want to feed the skimmer between 200-300, 400 max water feed. Vents on the output also help relieve any pockets of air while traveling back to your sump.

Also make sure the cup is on all the way. In the pics I can see the o-ring. That should be in the recessed area in the collar.

heartandsoul
02/14/2009, 09:28 AM
i purchased it from a store out here.i know the wheel inside is black. i put the o ring into the collar. should i be using a mag 9.5 for this skimmer?

JRaquatics
02/14/2009, 09:39 AM
Way too much flow. If you are running the feed wide open you are feeding the skimmer 800 to 900 GPH. You want to gear towards 300 gph 400 max.

heartandsoul
02/14/2009, 09:44 AM
if i turn the pump down the bubbles dont get into the cup

reeftank21
02/17/2009, 01:56 PM
What is the height of the pipe up to the Tee. Stock is about 9.25". Where should the Tee be as compared to the Reeflo sticker or beginning of neck? Does the skimmer work better when this is at a certain height? Do you have a picture?

I have never had a skimmer with the wedge valve but rather a ball valve. Does the wedge valve work just as well?

Are there any mods I can do to this before i set it up? Anything to do different with the volute or air inlet? The hose barb for the air inlet sure looks small. Maybe trim it down to make larger.

I think I have a white impeller. Is that new or old?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

JRaquatics
02/17/2009, 03:49 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14417034#post14417034 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reeftank21
What is the height of the pipe up to the Tee. Stock is about 9.25". Where should the Tee be as compared to the Reeflo sticker or beginning of neck? Does the skimmer work better when this is at a certain height? Do you have a picture?

I have never had a skimmer with the wedge valve but rather a ball valve. Does the wedge valve work just as well?

Are there any mods I can do to this before i set it up? Anything to do different with the volute or air inlet? The hose barb for the air inlet sure looks small. Maybe trim it down to make larger.

I think I have a white impeller. Is that new or old?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Can you post pics of your skimmer? The venturi should have a barbed ball valve and the impeller should be black (new and old). Is this a new or used skimmer? There are set up instructions and tons of pics in the beginning of this thread.

ddier2020
02/17/2009, 04:02 PM
Have any of you had a humming noise from the skimmer? Humming started on mine, and it seems to be getting louder. I can't isolate the sound, but when I turn off the imcoming air on the venturi it quiets down

reeftank21
02/17/2009, 04:20 PM
My Orca 200 is used but not very much. It does have a black impeller, I was wrong. I think the Tee might be a bit high but on by about an inch or two. Will that matter? Does have the gold motor. I just don't know if it is worth it to couple the outlet if top of tee is about and inch about transition.

JRaquatics
02/17/2009, 05:30 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14417963#post14417963 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ddier2020
Have any of you had a humming noise from the skimmer? Humming started on mine, and it seems to be getting louder. I can't isolate the sound, but when I turn off the imcoming air on the venturi it quiets down

Never shut the air off when the pump is running, this can cause the impeller to embed into the back of the volute. First I would inspect you venturi port and ensure that there is no debris, salt creep etc blocking air passage. If that is all good I would suggest to take the pump off of the skimmer, remove the volute and check the position of the wheel.

JRaquatics
02/17/2009, 05:32 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14418114#post14418114 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reeftank21
My Orca 200 is used but not very much. It does have a black impeller, I was wrong. I think the Tee might be a bit high but on by about an inch or two. Will that matter? Does have the gold motor. I just don't know if it is worth it to couple the outlet if top of tee is about and inch about transition.

You will have trouble tuning your skimmer if the output tee is too high. I suggest the top of the output portion of the tee to at least be level with the Reeflo lettering.

Rueg
02/17/2009, 07:22 PM
What do you mean never turn the air off when the pump is running? Isn't that what the valve is for? I turn the air off when I clean the skimmer. Should I not be doing that. Turning the air off makes the wattage go way up, but besides that I have not ever heard of anything negative.

JRaquatics
02/17/2009, 09:38 PM
We have found besides the pump pulling excessive wattage it adds extra strain to the motor, impeller and tends to bury the impeller further on the shaft causing it to rub into the back of the volute.

Rueg
02/17/2009, 09:59 PM
I guess I will unplug the motor from now on when I clean the cup instead of just shutting the air off and opening the wedge valve. Sure would have been nice to have known this. Was it posted somewhere? Certainly isn't in the directions for the skimmer anywhere. Hopefully my pump isn't damaged. I have noticed it seems to have become louder over time.

drstupid
02/18/2009, 08:26 AM
just turn off the motor, water will go up the air intake tube to the level of the water in the skimmer body.

JRaquatics
02/18/2009, 08:38 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14421148#post14421148 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Rueg
I guess I will unplug the motor from now on when I clean the cup instead of just shutting the air off and opening the wedge valve. Sure would have been nice to have known this. Was it posted somewhere? Certainly isn't in the directions for the skimmer anywhere. Hopefully my pump isn't damaged. I have noticed it seems to have become louder over time.

I posted it often on both the Reeflo 250 and this 200 thread.
I am sure if your pump runs quiet the impeller isn't rubbing against the back of the volute. These pumps can handle stress but why place it under any more than it has too. This is why I suggest just turning off the pump when servicing the skimmer.

Rueg
02/18/2009, 09:39 AM
Will do.

Also - any suggestion on what to replace the air intake valve with? I guess I want to just replace it so I am not even tempted to turn the valve on it. I will be getting another RS replacement wheel (hopefully soon) and believe I read that it is suggested to replace the air valve with just a straight fitting that allows more air to be drawn in? Any links to what will screw into that part or pics?

Thanks.

JRaquatics
02/18/2009, 09:45 AM
I will check the sizes when I get home tonight and let you know, but it is initially a standard nylon barb fitting with threads that I picked up at ACE Hardware.

amay121
02/18/2009, 09:53 AM
Dude, JR, don't you have anything else better to do other than hawk the site and provide fanatical customer service to all us uneducated reef fanatic/freaks/enthusiast/hobbyist/etc. etc. folks.

This is why RS is where you go to get some of the best CS.

JRaquatics
02/18/2009, 09:59 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14423611#post14423611 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by amay121
Dude, JR, don't you have anything else better to do other than hawk the site and provide fanatical customer service to all us uneducated reef fanatic/freaks/enthusiast/hobbyist/etc. etc. folks.

This is why RS is where you go to get some of the best CS. :lol: Thanks, I try.

Rueg
02/19/2009, 07:29 PM
The part you need to replace the air valve with is:

3/8" x 1/4" Nylon Barb to MIP Adapter

After doing this it looks like the watts dropped a couple according to the kill-a-watt meter. That makes sense if replacing the air valve with the nylon adapter lets more air to be pulled in - less water being pushed and more air being pulled in = less watts being used.

Rueg
02/19/2009, 07:34 PM
As mentioned earlier - the water level in the air intake tube will go up to whatever level is in the skimmer when the recirculation pump is turned off - so you must make sure you have the air hose on the nylon barb all the way so it doesn't let the water out.

reeftank21
02/24/2009, 01:01 PM
What have you done in order to either enlarge the drain on the cup or put an elbow on the fitting? What size is that? Have you safely enlarged the existing? or just drilled a new hole?


thanks

amay121
02/27/2009, 11:13 PM
Need help with 200 installation, are you guys open on Saturday?

AcroporAddict
02/28/2009, 11:07 AM
I usually turn off the air valve at the same time I unplug the skimmer because if you don't water rushes up the silicone air tube and gets into the silencer thing that sits on top of the wedge pipe.

Also, once every two weeks or so, I heat up R/O water (hot not boiling) and feed it down into the air intake to dissolve any salt buildup that has accumulated.
Dave

powertec
03/14/2009, 02:18 PM
I have a reeflo 200 on my 180 right now, but i have to downgrade for awhile to a 75 gallon.
Is this to much of a skimmer for a 75 gallon, and if not is there something different i should do to set it up?

Thanks

JRaquatics
03/15/2009, 08:27 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14609866#post14609866 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by powertec
I have a reeflo 200 on my 180 right now, but i have to downgrade for awhile to a 75 gallon.
Is this to much of a skimmer for a 75 gallon, and if not is there something different i should do to set it up?

Thanks


I would guess the skimmer would not have a stable head of foam on a 75gal bioload. It most likely will only keep the tank well oxygenated.

mkbtank
03/16/2009, 08:57 AM
I have a 180, with a 40 gallon sump and 60 gallon fuge. (280 gallons total).

Should I go with the 200 or the 250? I would rather not spend the extra money if it is not neccesary.

Thanks!

JRaquatics
03/16/2009, 09:06 AM
The Reeflo 200 is more than enough for your system. Later on if you increase your system size you can always add the PRO kit to the skimmers to increase performance.

mkbtank
03/16/2009, 09:37 AM
Thanks!

bhdmc
03/20/2009, 11:56 AM
I just was surfing the web and notice the Reeflo Orca 200 Protein skimmer has drop it price from $849.00 to $599.95. This is a great price from what I been hearing about this skimmer. I hope it is not the sign of the times and they are discontinuing this model or the company is going out of business. I hope not!

mkbtank
03/20/2009, 09:33 PM
I took shipment today!!!! This thread has helped a lot so far. Thanks to everyone for posting their experience. Those directions are comical.

Can't wait to get this bad boy on line!!!

Papajin
03/21/2009, 01:27 PM
Those directions are comical.

Directions almost seems like too kind a term for what they actually give you with the skimmer... It boggles my mind that they took the time to develop such a nice product, and then couldn't take the couple hours to put together some basic instructions for installation and setup. It just seems just plain old lazy and well stupid to me. Heck my "instructions" didn't even really match this version of the skimmer exactly to boot!

Anyway, thanks for allowing me this opportunity to rant! If I were giving out up to 5 stars for this product, I'd have to deduct at least a full star due to this simple lack that's so easily fixed!

The skimmer does work awesome though once you figure out what you need to do.

mkbtank
03/21/2009, 04:19 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14660471#post14660471 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Papajin
Heck my "instructions" didn't even really match this version of the skimmer exactly to boot!



Mine either. The skimmer in the picture has a screw on collection cup.

As long as it works!

drstupid
03/21/2009, 05:39 PM
instructions are for the weak.

the montly mag article on setup from last november has pretty much everything you need to know in it.

bhdmc
03/23/2009, 03:53 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14661755#post14661755 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by drstupid
instructions are for the weak.

the montly mag article on setup from last november has pretty much everything you need to know in it.

Can you direct me to this site. Just order the Reeflo 200 and been reading this post from day one. Cannot wait till it arrives. Are people still having problems putting it together? Does it still required a full roll of teflon tape on the venturi? I would figure these problems will be corrected by now. People have been giving this skimmer a vinegar bath. Someone posted this may void the warranty on the motor? If so, what are people using to clean up the production oils?:)

mkbtank
03/23/2009, 07:02 PM
I have read here that getting the venturi vertical is important. I was able to get mine to 10:00. No leaks and the skimmer looks to be working great! Should I be concerned enough to take the whole thing apart again and make it (much) looser but with more teflon tape for some reason?

Thanks!

JRaquatics
03/23/2009, 07:04 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14676398#post14676398 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mkbtank
I have read here that getting the venturi vertical is important. I was able to get mine to 10:00. No leaks and the skimmer looks to be working great! Should I be concerned enough to take the whole thing apart again and make it (much) looser but with more teflon tape for some reason?

Thanks!

I never noticed a difference running the venturi at 10 or 2 o-clock as compared to 12oclock. I would just leave it be.;)

mkbtank
03/23/2009, 07:39 PM
YES!!! Man I was hoping you would say that! :) :) :) Thanks!

Let the beasting begin!!

drstupid
03/24/2009, 10:35 AM
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2007-11/pr/index.php

the only extra advice i have is to run it with the wedge valve wide open until it breaks in, and expect that to take about three weeks.

mkbtank
03/24/2009, 11:20 AM
Will do. What is the reason out of curiousity?

JRaquatics
03/24/2009, 11:26 AM
When the skimmer decides to break in it will seem like it went into overdrive, usually causing the skimmer to overflow. We recomend that for the first 3-4 weeks to leave the wedge valve open.

bhdmc
03/24/2009, 11:46 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14680690#post14680690 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by drstupid
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2007-11/pr/index.php

the only extra advice i have is to run it with the wedge valve wide open until it breaks in, and expect that to take about three weeks.

Thanks!:)

bhdmc
03/26/2009, 10:44 AM
Just received my new reeflo 200 skimmer and mock it up. I have a few questions. The motor doesnot fasten down to its plate? The cup lid is only held in plate by it own weight? I have notice that some of the skimmer cup on this post have an elbow fitting attached to the cup drain outlet. Is this an option? If not what are people using? I am aware the pipes and fitting are metric. What is the size of this fitting and where can it be purchase. What is the size of the outlet pipe and what are people using to extend this pipe to their sump? I also notice that the venturi has a rubber o-ring. Do I still need to use extra teflon tape to prevent a leak and to get the venturi at 12:00? Thanks!

amay121
03/26/2009, 10:54 AM
For the output, you have a metric to us piece to convert it. Conversion should yield a 1.5" pipe.

Not sure you can purchase the metric pipes here for cheap.

Thanks to Mike, I finally have my 200 Setup and it's a beast and I can't wait til it's broken in. :)

JRaquatics
03/26/2009, 11:00 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14696463#post14696463 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bhdmc
Just received my new reeflo 200 skimmer and mock it up. I have a few questions. The motor doesnot fasten down to its plate? The cup lid is only held in plate by it own weight? I have notice that some of the skimmer cup on this post have an elbow fitting attached to the cup drain outlet. Is this an option? If not what are people using? I am aware the pipes and fitting are metric. What is the size of this fitting and where can it be purchase. What is the size of the outlet pipe and what are people using to extend this pipe to their sump? I also notice that the venturi has a rubber o-ring. Do I still need to use extra teflon tape to prevent a leak and to get the venturi at 12:00? Thanks!

Congratulations on your new skimmer.
WOW!!! That is a ton of questions.:eek2:

- The motor sits upon the base and is held inplace by the plumbing.
- The bottom of the lid has a groove that the top of the cup sits in.
- There has always just been a acrylic nipple on the 200s the elbow is only found on the Reeflo 250 stock cups.
- Not too sure on the metric size but the skimmer does come with a conversion piece that converts the metric to standard. (metric to english) 1.5 PVC
- Yes, you will still have to use Teflon tape on the venturi and it is not crucial to get it directly at 12 o-clock. Anywhere between 10 and 2 o-clock is fine.
- Remember that the top of the tee should be no higher than the top of the Reeflo Letters.

Good Luck. Call us if you have any questions.;)

amay121
03/26/2009, 11:05 AM
That's odd, my venturi came all taped up already. :)

JRaquatics
03/26/2009, 11:07 AM
They do come with tape already on them but usually requires more for a good seal.

bhdmc
03/26/2009, 02:48 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14696568#post14696568 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JRaquatics
Congratulations on your new skimmer.
WOW!!! That is a ton of questions.:eek2:

- The motor sits upon the base and is held inplace by the plumbing.
- The bottom of the lid has a groove that the top of the cup sits in.
- There has always just been a acrylic nipple on the 200s the elbow is only found on the Reeflo 250 stock cups.
- Not too sure on the metric size but the skimmer does come with a conversion piece that converts the metric to standard. (metric to english) 1.5 PVC
- Yes, you will still have to use Teflon tape on the venturi and it is not crucial to get it directly at 12 o-clock. Anywhere between 10 and 2 o-clock is fine.
- Remember that the top of the tee should be no higher than the top of the Reeflo Letters.

Good Luck. Call us if you have any questions.;)

Thanks for your help :)

poolkeeper1
03/27/2009, 06:59 AM
Just wanted to thank all that contributed to this thread, I just bought a used (looks like new) Reeflo Orca 200 from a RC member and was able to set it up flawlessly after reading this thread. And to my surprise after running overnight already has a very dense head of foam about ready to top the neck!!! This is IMO the best quality built skimmer I've owned Period! From what I have read the break in period is about 3 weeks, Would that be the same If It Is used? The skimmer was clean like new! As this model has the drain, But came with the AO smith motor what are my best options for improvement? Would the Pro kit work well with the AO smith motor? It Is being fed from my manifold off my return reeflo dart and I am not sure about the amount of flow? With the air off the water is in the middle of the reeflo letters with the wedge pipe all the way open! And it still has the original air valve! Well that's all I can think of at the moment, And I realize I have not bought this unit from RS but may get the pro kit and would sure like any input you guys have to offer.
Thanks Bill

JRaquatics
03/27/2009, 08:13 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14702664#post14702664 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by poolkeeper1
Just wanted to thank all that contributed to this thread, I just bought a used (looks like new) Reeflo Orca 200 from a RC member and was able to set it up flawlessly after reading this thread. And to my surprise after running overnight already has a very dense head of foam about ready to top the neck!!! This is IMO the best quality built skimmer I've owned Period! From what I have read the break in period is about 3 weeks, Would that be the same If It Is used? The skimmer was clean like new! As this model has the drain, But came with the AO smith motor what are my best options for improvement? Would the Pro kit work well with the AO smith motor? It Is being fed from my manifold off my return reeflo dart and I am not sure about the amount of flow? With the air off the water is in the middle of the reeflo letters with the wedge pipe all the way open! And it still has the original air valve! Well that's all I can think of at the moment, And I realize I have not bought this unit from RS but may get the pro kit and would sure like any input you guys have to offer.
Thanks Bill

Congrats on your New/Used Reeflo. You don't have to me a customer to post within any of our threads, as we value every ones thoughts, experiences and questions. You Reeflo will have a break in period, not to remove the oils but to build a slime coat of bacteria. This could take less than a week or three. Every systems different but is still wise to take it slow. You want to gear twoards 200-350 gph feed, it does not have to be exact with the reeflo just guestimate. The original air valve is fine, you won't have to do anything to it unless you go with the pro set up. Depending on how old the Reeflo is you may have the old venturi which requires random cleaning to prevent buildup within the air canal. Yes the Pro kit will work well with the AO Smith, same pump I used, or the Baldor motor. What size system is this skimmer on?

mkbtank
03/27/2009, 08:53 AM
So.... another break-in question....

Skimmer (200) has been running for 4 days. I have a thick head of foam just cresting the top of the overflow but not really breaking. There has been a little bit of overflow (Nice dark color) but not much at all. I am guessing based on what I have read that this is normal and sometime soon (next week or two even) that when things do break I will see lots of continous foam in the overflow.

Just checking to see that this is the normal course of things. (and yes, I am running it wide open :) )

Thanks again

JRaquatics
03/27/2009, 09:45 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14703231#post14703231 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mkbtank
So.... another break-in question....

Skimmer (200) has been running for 4 days. I have a thick head of foam just cresting the top of the overflow but not really breaking. There has been a little bit of overflow (Nice dark color) but not much at all. I am guessing based on what I have read that this is normal and sometime soon (next week or two even) that when things do break I will see lots of continous foam in the overflow.

Just checking to see that this is the normal course of things. (and yes, I am running it wide open :) )

Thanks again

Sounds like it is breaking in. Do you have any shots of it in action?

amay121
03/27/2009, 09:56 AM
JR, just a quick question, I finally got mine up and running and I'm running with everyone open. Water level is just under the Reeflo sticker. Is this the proper level for now? Should I close air or wedge to get the water level above the Reeflo sticker?

JRaquatics
03/27/2009, 10:00 AM
I don't advice anyone to close the air valve on the Reeflo skimmers, in fact I wish they never came with them. So leave the air valve fully open and after break in you can move the water level so that it sits directly below the black collar of the cup connection. Then dial it up or down from there. Every tank (bioload) is different and will require different adjustments but that should get you in the ballpark with the stock reeflo 200.

mkbtank
03/27/2009, 10:13 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14703570#post14703570 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JRaquatics
Sounds like it is breaking in. Do you have any shots of it in action?

I will take some tonight and post.

poolkeeper1
03/27/2009, 10:20 AM
Wow Thanks for the quick response! My system totals around 250gal or so, 185gal tank, 100gal sump, less 200lbs live rock. This tank has been up for 2yrs on June 1st 09 and is SPS dominant with some LPS, At present I have approx 100 pcs of SPS some large colony's and some asst sizes from 1" up. I am guessing I'm at the top range of this stock so when It's fully broken in I'll decide what to do about the Pro kit at that time. I just redid the feed line (shortened the distance) Because I noticed a drop in my turnover rate through my sump and I seem to have increased it back to where it was b4 and still have the same amount going through the skimmer. All the fiddling has made the head disappear now I'll leave it be and let it break in! Thanks for the great service and you have gained a new future customer.
Bill

poolkeeper1
03/27/2009, 01:00 PM
I just found the origanal packing slip from RS This skimmer was sold on 1/22/08 Inv#rs50 Can you tell what model I have from this info? If it makes any difference. Price back then was 850.00

JRaquatics
03/27/2009, 01:12 PM
You have the first generation Reeflo 200 with the old venturi, Thick Solid lid with no holes, and the AO Smith Dart.

poolkeeper1
03/27/2009, 01:20 PM
OK Thanks, The lid has holes as of yesterday, Would a new style venturi improve performance? The pump says Orca not Dart? JR your customer svs is awsome!! After not quite 24hrs this beast is already got my DNW200 Octo put to shame!
Thanks Bill

drstupid
03/28/2009, 06:54 PM
i have an original 200, and did drill four 1/8" holes in the top, it does provide airflow when the scum level gets higher than where the drain line ends up in my bucket.

the orca pump is what reeflo calls a dart with a needlewheel. i'd try to get the new reeflo needlewheel, but wouldn't pay the full price for it. they charge too much, i got mine on a warranty claim for very little money so it was worth it. the new reeflo wheel has uniform sized needles, the old one has smaller ones on the outer edge.

the old one worked great for me for a long time, don't feel like you "need" to upgrade. if you do need to upgrade, i'd get the reefspecialty riser/cup first, then their needlewheel. make sure you need to first, the old stock skimmer works very well.

have fun! this thing rocks. i had a really old foxface die and only noticed it by the skimmer ripping a bucket of spooge overnight... then noticed the fish was gone. i had a bucket full of foxface, it's sad to lose a fish but a good indication of the power of this beast.

i'd encourage a large collection bucket (5 gallon) and a float switch in the lid to shut off the recirc pump if it fillls up unexpectedly. like if a fish dies while you sleep, this skimmer really is pretty frightening, and you don't need foxface spooge all over your floor... :-)

poolkeeper1
03/28/2009, 07:41 PM
That sounds like good advice and I thank you! After only 2 days of break-in so far I'm pretty impressed with the amount of crud It's pulling already. I'm not positive but the needle wheel in this pump had all the same size pins as far as I can remember! I'll double check the next time I have it apart. the shutoff valve sounds like a must, I'll get one right away, my 5gal bucket already has over an inch in 2 days! The foam broke over the neck on day 2 and has been pretty steady since. So far I'm really impressed with It's performance and everyone that has seen it is too. I keep finding myself going out to the sump room all the time now just to look at the nog production, I'm easily amused!!!
Thanks for the info drstupid It's all relavent!

drstupid
03/28/2009, 07:59 PM
the production is unpredictable when it's breaking in, definitely leave the wedge open until you know it's done. it's very tempting to say "it's broken in" but man you'll know when it happens.

it's sad we get so excited about fish poop. but it is pretty cool to see something well engineered work the way it's supposed to. i've had a few skimmers before this one, and it is definitely the balls.

75pxatr
03/30/2009, 02:00 PM
I have the orca 200. What is the pro kit that I have heard as an upgrade to this?

JRaquatics
03/30/2009, 02:16 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14724514#post14724514 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 75pxatr
I have the orca 200. What is the pro kit that I have heard as an upgrade to this?

It is an extended cup and a professionally machined wheel to upgrade the performance of the stock Reeflo 200.

Reef Specialty Reeflo 200 Pro Cup (http://www.reefspecialty.com/Protein-Skimmers-Reeflo/c21_45/p285/ReeFlo-Orca-200-Collection-Cup/product_info.html)

Reef Specialty 200 Pro Pinwheel (http://www.reefspecialty.com/Protein-Skimmers-Reeflo/c21_45/p388/Reef-Specialty-Orca-Needlewheel/product_info.html)

poolkeeper1
03/30/2009, 04:10 PM
Is the Extension and the upgrade wheel the same for both the 200 and the 250 or are they different?

JRaquatics
03/30/2009, 05:01 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14725377#post14725377 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by poolkeeper1
Is the Extension and the upgrade wheel the same for both the 200 and the 250 or are they different?

They are different

hilde123
03/31/2009, 06:47 AM
I have a 200 that is currently breaking in, I have a few quick questions:

1. I got a 4 page instruction manual from Reeflo and it says to close the air valve to adjsut the water level in the skimmer. I remember reading in the forum to never close the air valve as it will damage the needlewheel impacting it against the body, any comemnts on this issue.

2. I am running ozone into the skimmer, I am injecting it in the noise reduction chamber where it will be sucked into the venturi. Those out there that are using ozone, what dosage are you using on the skimmer in mg/hr.

3. I am a little confused on the design of the skimmer, while I am not using it, provided with the skimmer is a plug for the collection cup drain (presumably if you dont want to drain into a bucket), if this is used, there is nowhere for the air that is drawn into the skimmer to escape. Am I missing something? For now, I have drilled a 1" hole in the lid of the collection cup lid that I am running through a carbon chamber to strip ozone. Should I have another means of exhausting air from the skimmer.

4. Also, In order to save power (man its getting expensive) I plan on only running the skimmer 12hours a day, during off times water will continue to flow thru the skimmer, as it is tapped of the return pump, but the needlewheel will be off. This will ensure that the needlewheel could never start dry. My question is, is there any ill effect by running the skimmer only part of the day, will I lose the skimmate in the column each day and have to start a breakin again?

Thanks in advance for you help!

JRaquatics
03/31/2009, 08:03 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14729437#post14729437 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by hilde123
I have a 200 that is currently breaking in, I have a few quick questions:

1. I got a 4 page instruction manual from Reeflo and it says to close the air valve to adjsut the water level in the skimmer. I remember reading in the forum to never close the air valve as it will damage the needlewheel impacting it against the body, any comemnts on this issue.

2. I am running ozone into the skimmer, I am injecting it in the noise reduction chamber where it will be sucked into the venturi. Those out there that are using ozone, what dosage are you using on the skimmer in mg/hr.

3. I am a little confused on the design of the skimmer, while I am not using it, provided with the skimmer is a plug for the collection cup drain (presumably if you dont want to drain into a bucket), if this is used, there is nowhere for the air that is drawn into the skimmer to escape. Am I missing something? For now, I have drilled a 1" hole in the lid of the collection cup lid that I am running through a carbon chamber to strip ozone. Should I have another means of exhausting air from the skimmer.

4. Also, In order to save power (man its getting expensive) I plan on only running the skimmer 12hours a day, during off times water will continue to flow thru the skimmer, as it is tapped of the return pump, but the needlewheel will be off. This will ensure that the needlewheel could never start dry. My question is, is there any ill effect by running the skimmer only part of the day, will I lose the skimmate in the column each day and have to start a breakin again?

Thanks in advance for you help!

1.Never run the skimmer with the air off. The watts climb to unsafe levels and you may bury the impeller into the back of the Volute. (We have had a few early customers that experienced this and in result they had a more than normal noisy pump and eventually leading to a leak of the seal.

2. The dosage of ozone really depends on the tank and the quality of the ozone unit. I used 100mg/hr on my 180gal when I was injecting it.

3. The lids now come without any holes for those that want to use ozone so they can either mod the lid or use a collection container with carbon exhaust port. Otherwise you just have to drill a few holes in the outer rim to exhaust the air pressure.

4. Unless you are running another skimmer I don't suggest turning off the skimmer other than maintenance. Your oxygen and orp levels will drop when you shut down the skimmer which is not good for the livestock within your tank (the key to a successful reef is stability). Plus you run into wasted run time by re-breaking in the portion of the skimmer that dried out. You also run the risk of organic matter entering the volute housing and obstructing the wheel.

hilde123
03/31/2009, 09:03 AM
Jeremy:

Thanks for the detailed responses, I wish I had recieved your response to Item No. 1 12 hours ago. I follwed the directions and turned off the air to set water level as per the instruction booklet provided by Reeflo. The pump did make some noise, same noises you hear when you close an inlet valve on a running pump. Is there anyway of knowing if I damaged the pump, buried the impeller, or caused any other damage. I do not hear any funny noises as of now. Fortunately, I closed the air very slowly to try not to shock the impeller.

Currently, I run my skimmer on a 14 hour cycle essentially reverse photoperiod. This allows the ozone to create a partial byproduct of oxygen at night to help keep my oxygen levels up. In this configuration my ORP only swings about 30 points per day most of which is the inverse (lower ORP) of the increased PH during the daylight hours. I believe this is an acceptable ORP swing. I am a newbie to chemistry, so please criticize me if I am entirely wrong here. I do understand there could be some wasted time if the slime layer is lost during the ~8 hour off period, but I cant imagine this accounts for much, as the water is still circulated through the skimmer while it is off, so there is only like 2 inches that get out of the water during off period. Also it seems like the inside of the skimmer stays at a very high humidity with condensation present so the slime may not ever die (if thats the correct word for it).

JRaquatics
03/31/2009, 09:24 AM
I don't think you did any harm to the pump by doing this one time. I think it takes a few times to start to over tighten onto the impeller onto the shaft causing it to bury itself. So I would not worry about it too much. You will hear a loud noise coming from the pump as the impeller rubs against the block on the back of the volute and would also experience higher than normal wattage.

poolkeeper1
03/31/2009, 09:28 AM
Just a note on turning your Skimmer on and off. The amount of electricity saved by turning it off for x amount of hours is most likely negated by the surge of power it takes to start it over and over every day!!! JMO Having done this on a swimming pool my bill was HIGHER turning the pump on and off than it was just letting it run 24x7. Maybe there someone out there that's a expert on this but that was my experience. By the way It's day 5 of the breakin Skimate is very dark and smelly, but has not increased much from the start, hope It finishes soon?

poolkeeper1
03/31/2009, 11:57 AM
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/hillarysux/DSCN0645.jpg


http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/hillarysux/DSCN0644.jpg
Well It seems to have shifted gears since this morning, Foam production seems to be up and steady. From the pictures can you tell If It's broke in or not? The bubbles changed in the Skimmer and the level dropped, I adjusted the wedge to about 40% closed to get these results! It's skimming pretty darn good If It gets better that will be awsome.

hilde123
03/31/2009, 01:33 PM
FYI, attached is a graph of my water parameters, you can see that PH definately has an inverse relationship with ORP, this accounts for most of the drop in ORP during the day. You can also see there is about a 10 point drop immediately when the skimmer is turned off. This is the foam from the skimmer dropping into the sump. The 10 point drop seems to raise up about another 5 when it (the foam) gets dispursed throughout the tank. I dont think this is too bad, the instantanuous drop is significantly more when you feed the tank (note at 18:00) on ORP. If I add DT's it seems to drop even more. Any thoughts?

bhdmc
04/16/2009, 10:43 AM
Would this metric size work to transition from metric to NPS on the skimmer intake union?



http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/57357picserve.png

It is 25mm x 1" couple.:)

JRaquatics
04/16/2009, 10:58 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14837574#post14837574 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bhdmc
Would this metric size work to transition from metric to NPS on the skimmer intake union?



http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/57357picserve.png

It is 25mm x 1" couple.:)

I am not too sure. It looks like the one that comes with the skimmer.

bhdmc
04/16/2009, 11:27 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14837651#post14837651 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JRaquatics
I am not too sure. It looks like the one that comes with the skimmer.

I have tried the one that came with unit. It has Metric on one side and British on the other side. I tried using a 1" pvc pipe onto the British end and the 1' pvc pipe was too large. I am trying to determine what size the metric end is. FLEXPVC.COM sells couples that transition from metric to NPS. Thanks!:)

JRaquatics
04/16/2009, 11:32 AM
The British end is for 1" standard PVC unless you got one that is for 3/4" PVC.

356ray
04/16/2009, 02:04 PM
I am putting together a 150 gal. mixed reef with a 40 gal. sump and was wondering which reeflo skimmer would be best.

Thanks for your input.

serpentman
04/16/2009, 02:12 PM
I currently run a 150 reef (270g total) on my 200 with pro kit. It will easy handle it, even without the upgrade. In fact, I plan to push this skimmer to the limit when I switch it over to my 300g (450g total) system.

amay121
04/16/2009, 02:19 PM
If you can afford it, go with the 250. If you're not going to upgrade in the near future, go with the 200. So it really depends on your path. But as serpentman says, you can go with the 200 pro kit and you'll be alright.

amay121
04/16/2009, 02:21 PM
Jeremy,

One question, no matter what I do, I can't get the water line to the bottom of the neck. It's just over the REEFLO lettering.

Also, what's happening to the 200/250? Discountinued? Upgrade? Updated models?

JRaquatics
04/16/2009, 02:28 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14838804#post14838804 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 356ray
I am putting together a 150 gal. mixed reef with a 40 gal. sump and was wondering which reeflo skimmer would be best.

Thanks for your input.

A stock Reeflo 200 is more than enough of a skimmer for a 150gal. I had mine on a 180 (200gal system total) and handled it very well.

JRaquatics
04/16/2009, 02:30 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14838901#post14838901 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by amay121
Jeremy,

One question, no matter what I do, I can't get the water line to the bottom of the neck. It's just over the REEFLO lettering.

Also, what's happening to the 200/250? Discountinued? Upgrade? Updated models?

By turning the wedge valve you should be able to raise the water level. Make sure the wedge pipe is full inserted into the tee.

The Reeflo skimmers have been replaced by the Hurricone line.

amay121
04/16/2009, 02:42 PM
Serpentman,

Just by Jeremy's 200. He's got it for sale, I think.

poolkeeper1
04/16/2009, 03:26 PM
Does that mean the Pro Cups won't be sold anymore? Or will they still be avaiable In the future.

JRaquatics
04/16/2009, 03:55 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14839268#post14839268 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by poolkeeper1
Does that mean the Pro Cups won't be sold anymore? Or will they still be avaiable In the future.

We will still be supplying the Pro accessories till there isn't anymore demand for them.

bhdmc
04/16/2009, 07:09 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14837872#post14837872 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JRaquatics
The British end is for 1" standard PVC unless you got one that is for 3/4" PVC.

I just finally got around tonight and assembly the skimmer. Everything went well thanks to read this thread and your input. I did notice that I did not get the couple that transition the metric output to 1 1/2" pvc pipe. Do you know where I can get this piece? What they gave me was the couple is way too small as describe above. Any recommendation will help.:)

poolkeeper1
04/16/2009, 07:47 PM
Just curious If the Hurricone has been proven to be superior to the Reeflo models ? Or Is It just another Cone Frenzy Skimmer That really Is not that much better. Less power consumption Is a given but what other proof can you show me! I'm on week 3 of breakin on my Reeflo 200 and It's pretty darn good for the price. Is the hurricone worth twice the money of this one?

hilde123
04/16/2009, 08:20 PM
I have an ORCA 200 that has been running for about a month. I put a killawat on it and it says it is pulling 106 watts. The air is full open, does this mean I have a problem, shouldnt it be only 95 watts?

JRaquatics
04/16/2009, 09:42 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14840789#post14840789 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bhdmc
I just finally got around tonight and assembly the skimmer. Everything went well thanks to read this thread and your input. I did notice that I did not get the couple that transition the metric output to 1 1/2" pvc pipe. Do you know where I can get this piece? What they gave me was the couple is way too small as describe above. Any recommendation will help.:)

If I had one laying around I would send it to you but your place of purchase should be able to help you obtain the parts your missing, otherwise contact Reeflo or Coralvue.

JRaquatics
04/16/2009, 09:49 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14841082#post14841082 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by poolkeeper1
Just curious If the Hurricone has been proven to be superior to the Reeflo models ? Or Is It just another Cone Frenzy Skimmer That really Is not that much better. Less power consumption Is a given but what other proof can you show me! I'm on week 3 of breakin on my Reeflo 200 and It's pretty darn good for the price. Is the hurricone worth twice the money of this one?

The price of the Reeflos were way more before they decided to liquidate them. I paid more for my Reeflo 200 stock than my Hurricone CAT 2. The Hurricone is not a cone but a hybrid of sorts. It has all the great features of the Reeflo PROs (more air and long neck) but with the benefits of and extended cone transition, energy efficient pump which produces the finest of bubbles and more. There is nothing wrong with the Reeflo skimmer as the 200 was and still is one of my most favorite skimmers.

JRaquatics
04/16/2009, 09:51 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14841345#post14841345 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by hilde123
I have an ORCA 200 that has been running for about a month. I put a killawat on it and it says it is pulling 106 watts. The air is full open, does this mean I have a problem, shouldnt it be only 95 watts?

There is nothing wrong with your skimmer. My stock Reeflo 200 ran anywhere from 98w to 108w. It all depended on the time of the day, the room temp, how much water the skimmer was being fed, water height within the skimmer and if the venturi was clean or not.

bhdmc
04/17/2009, 09:24 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14841952#post14841952 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JRaquatics
If I had one laying around I would send it to you but your place of purchase should be able to help you obtain the parts your missing, otherwise contact Reeflo or Coralvue.

Thanks:)

356ray
04/17/2009, 03:57 PM
All thank you very much for the recommendations.

JR- I have one more question/concern, in your response to poolkeeper you indicate that the Reeflos are being liquidated - does this mean they will no longer be made?

Thanks again

JRaquatics
04/17/2009, 07:55 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14846798#post14846798 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 356ray
All thank you very much for the recommendations.

JR- I have one more question/concern, in your response to poolkeeper you indicate that the Reeflos are being liquidated - does this mean they will no longer be made?

Thanks again

That is correct. They will no longer be made.

hilde123
04/18/2009, 05:50 AM
So is Reeflo going out-of-bussiness? Does this mean we will not be able to obtain replacement parts for the Skimmer or Pump?

JRaquatics
04/18/2009, 08:07 AM
Reeflo is not out of business. Reeflo skimmers was a partnership between CoralVue (provided the body) and Reeflo (provided the pump). They have decided to part ways in the skimmer making biz. The pumps and pump parts will always be readily available from Reeflo and the skimmer parts from CoralVue.

75pxatr
04/19/2009, 06:54 AM
I added a gate valve to the 200 and it makes the skimmer easier to adjust.

For those of you that want to go to english pluming just go to Lowes and get a standard coupling and use a dremel tool with sanding wheel to open up the standard coupling on one side.

Takes about 2 mins. and eliminates lots of time looking for oddball fittings. Keep it simple.

hansonfam
04/23/2009, 04:14 PM
I have a reeflo 200 and i need to have it plumbed in another cabinet beside the tank what would be the best way of doing this?

poolkeeper1
04/23/2009, 05:57 PM
If you look thru this thread I think you will find some external cabinet setups to use as a guide for a typical installation.

hansonfam
04/24/2009, 01:16 PM
So the next question I have the flow from the display going to the sump, it goes from the fuge then to skimmer. It is just the way i had to set it up. The fuge is just a DSB.
Anyways the flow through the sump is 350 gallons per hour, so should I have the return from the skimmer go back to the start of the sump or back to where i goes to the skimmer, which is also my return.

Thanks

JRaquatics
04/24/2009, 01:57 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14890060#post14890060 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by hansonfam
So the next question I have the flow from the display going to the sump, it goes from the fuge then to skimmer. It is just the way i had to set it up. The fuge is just a DSB.
Anyways the flow through the sump is 350 gallons per hour, so should I have the return from the skimmer go back to the start of the sump or back to where i goes to the skimmer, which is also my return.

Thanks

I would suggest to place the skimmers output farthest from the feed pumps inlet so that the skimmer gets as much un-skimmed water possible.

BTW you can look in my build thread to see what I did for a skimmer cabinet. My Build Thread (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1313678)

hansonfam
05/05/2009, 02:11 PM
So if i upgrade my Reeflo 200 with the RS extended cup and new pinwheel what kind of numbers should i see in terms of scfh?

Thanks

poolkeeper1
05/05/2009, 02:22 PM
Jeremy, Since the reeflo's are not being made anymore will there be any sale's on the Pro cups kits??? I would love to get one If they were going on sale sometime soon! Hint Hint...

JRaquatics
05/05/2009, 02:37 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14956798#post14956798 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by hansonfam
So if i upgrade my Reeflo 200 with the RS extended cup and new pinwheel what kind of numbers should i see in terms of scfh?

Thanks

I was getting 70+SCFH on my Reeflo 200 Pro

CarlosS
05/06/2009, 07:00 PM
Hi Jeremy:

I think I have a problem with my skimmer. It is no pulling enough junk like in the past. Usually it gave me about 1/2 gallon a week; and now is not more than 1/2 cup.

It is consuming about 100 watts. I just cleaned it completely, including the venturi.

I have a 150 gallons fully stocked with 15 fish.

My skimmer is normal with AO smith motor.

Please help me, I don't know what else do.

JRaquatics
05/06/2009, 07:15 PM
If you really cleaned it completely then you may have to re-break in the skimmer. This is why I never clean my skimmers completely. I will clean the venturi and its components and the cup and nothing more. If sediment builds up within a particular skimmer I will siphon it out but never scrub down the skimmer body. Another thing to consider is that you only have a 150 gal so you may not have anything more for the skimmer to pull out. I wouldn't worry about it unless your parameters go beyond the tank's normal range.

CarlosS
05/08/2009, 08:42 AM
All right. I've got it.

All my corals (sps's) and fish are fine, but I was very scared because my skimmer is not working like the past. It is producing foam but not as always.

Maybe you are right, the skimmer has not anything to pull.

How often do you clean the cup? I heard from a friend that has a 250, that only clean the upper edge of the cup and nothing more, in other words, he doesn't dissasemble the cup from the skimmer never.

JRaquatics
05/08/2009, 09:08 AM
I would clean the cup every 3-5 days to remove any build up. The skimmer will return skimming faster if the cup isn't scrubbed clean. When I had the Reeflo set up I cleaned my cup once a month but wiped the sludge out of the neck ever 3 to 5 days with a paper towel and tooth brush.

CarlosS
05/08/2009, 10:39 AM
excellent.....

Thank you very much

75pxatr
05/10/2009, 11:18 AM
Do you recommend using ozone with your skimmers? why or why not.

I have never used it but do not seem to understand the pros and cons.

virginiadiver69
05/10/2009, 11:30 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14841082#post14841082 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by poolkeeper1
Is the hurricone worth twice the money of this one?
The prices seem pretty comparable to me...
Reeflo 200= $650 Octopus Huricone= $800


On a side note...I had the opportunity to upgrade to the Baldor Gold pump for a steal, so now I wanna convert my AO smith to a standard return pump. I have the standard impeller but do not see the best way to get the needle wheel off. It look like it spins counter clockwise so somehow I need to get a hold of the shaft so I can spin the wheel off clockwise. Any tips?
P.S. Reeflo customer service ROCKS!!

poolkeeper1
05/10/2009, 12:00 PM
Cat 3= 1499.00 With similar type pump as the Reeflo, With Askoll It's like comparing apples and oranges IMO. It seems to be an Improved version of a Reeflo and I see no reason why people shouldn't buy these. I know how well my reeflo performs and these will be fine I assume. I personally would rather save 200.00 and keep what I have, Not much difference IMO Unless you just have to have the latest toy on the block! If you are upgrading to one of these that's a different story. I am upgrading to a new Pinwheel for my Reeflo and will post results when I have It installed and broke In.
PS. At the end of the shaft there Is a slot for a screwdriver to remove your Pinwheel/ Hold the Pinwheel with your hand and turn the shaft with the screwdriver. FYI.

JRaquatics
05/10/2009, 12:22 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14985536#post14985536 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by virginiadiver69
The prices seem pretty comparable to me...
Reeflo 200= $650 Octopus Huricone= $800


On a side note...I had the opportunity to upgrade to the Baldor Gold pump for a steal, so now I wanna convert my AO smith to a standard return pump. I have the standard impeller but do not see the best way to get the needle wheel off. It look like it spins counter clockwise so somehow I need to get a hold of the shaft so I can spin the wheel off clockwise. Any tips?
P.S. Reeflo customer service ROCKS!!

Here are step by step instructions on how to remove/replace the impeller on the Dart.

Impeller swap instructions (http://www.reefspecialty.com/i6/RS-Needlewheel-Instuctions/information.html)

virginiadiver69
05/10/2009, 01:14 PM
Poolkeeper...your right, I guess you would have to compare the hurricone 3 to be accurate.
I also agree that our Reeflo skimmers are some of the best on the market and I will be using mine for a long time to come.
Maybe there'll be a chance to get a screaming deal on clearance sale.
I see what your talking about with the end of the shaft...it was covered with lint/dust and didn't notice it before.

virginiadiver69
05/10/2009, 01:43 PM
Okay...I pulled out a heavily rusted/corroded spring, 2 metal washers and a plastic washer/collar and a rubber grommet. None of which I wanna put back on. Can I get this stuff from Reef specialty or should I contact Reeflo?
I've had a couple of skimmer overflows and I assume some water got into that aria of the pump.

poolkeeper1
05/10/2009, 04:13 PM
Not sure, But I would think Reeflo! If not I'm sure I'll hear about It.

poolkeeper1
05/10/2009, 04:49 PM
Check your venturi for salt creep, After working perfect for weeks I had mine overflow after a powerout, And It was the venturi almost completly covered up with salt deposits. Once cleaned It was back to normal skimming and no more overflows!!

CarlosS
05/11/2009, 09:28 AM
Hi guys:

Where could I get the improvement (impeller and cup) for my standard reeflo 200?

JRaquatics
05/11/2009, 11:12 AM
Reef Specialty is the only place to get the Reeflo Upgrade kit at this time.

bhdmc
05/12/2009, 01:31 PM
I finally set up the skimmer to the display tank. I have some questions; the output produces alot of mirco bubbles in the sump. Is this normal? What can be done to minimize this or did I set this up wrong? I am also running approx. 375 GPH to feed the skimmer and with the output valve open completely the water level in the skimmer is up to the black plastic ring where the collecdtion cup insert into the main body of the skimmer. The skimmer is now in breaking-in stage. Is this correct? I am afraid that once the skimmer does break-in the water level is too high and will cause an overflow.

JRaquatics
05/12/2009, 01:41 PM
Where is the top of the tee on the output located? It should be no higher than the top of the Reeflo lettering. The bubbles will subside in a couple of days.

bhdmc
05/12/2009, 03:35 PM
The top of the t-fitting to the same level of the body where it starts to taper in toward the neck. I followed the direction in this post and cut the pipe around 7 inches. I am glad the micro bubbles will subsided in a few days. It is also in the display tank. Thanks for your quick response.:)

ddier2020
05/16/2009, 12:26 AM
ok guys, I am about to give up on this skimmer, but before I do i will try to tune it in one more time. The skimmer has been runing about three months the tee of the wedge is intalled correct, and the water with the motor off is just at the top of the lettering. one thing I have never done is messed with the venturi, right now it is full open as I was told to leave it. Am I missing anything.. lots of skimmate builds up on the cup, but no wet skimmate:mad: :mad: :mad:

amay121
05/16/2009, 05:35 AM
Gabe,

You have a RF200 on a 75g? Is it heavily stocked? Also, what're you feeding the pump with? I feed mine with a MJ1200 (not really enough power, but I get wet skimmate). Also, have you tried close the return valve just a little? And last but not least, Jeremy told me to lay off the venturi, ALWAYS leave it open.

JRaquatics
05/16/2009, 09:07 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15020472#post15020472 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ddier2020
ok guys, I am about to give up on this skimmer, but before I do i will try to tune it in one more time. The skimmer has been runing about three months the tee of the wedge is intalled correct, and the water with the motor off is just at the top of the lettering. one thing I have never done is messed with the venturi, right now it is full open as I was told to leave it. Am I missing anything.. lots of skimmate builds up on the cup, but no wet skimmate:mad: :mad: :mad:

Where currently do you have your water breaking line and where is the point where the small bubble go to large? Do you have any pics of the skimmer in action. I do not recommend turning the venturi air valve, if you want to get wetter skimmate just close the wedge valve so the water level in the skimmer raises. What are you feeding the skimmer with? What size DT and system do you have it on?

ddier2020
05/16/2009, 11:44 AM
I have in on a 250 with a few fish, I feed heavy.. here are pictures of the skimmer, the skimmer is fed by my main pump, a reeflo blackfin, tuned down. the small bubbles get big at the reducing flange.. here are some pics. As you can see in the last pic, the head of foam collapses at that point in the pic, this pic was taken after 12 hrs after a light clean, and not a drop of skimmate.



http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h65/ddier2020/body.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h65/ddier2020/waterline.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h65/ddier2020/head.jpg

CarlosS
05/19/2009, 07:18 AM
ddier2020:

I think you have the water lever too low. Raise this level just below the black ring on the neck. Start the pump and verify that the foam does not overflow.

Also you have to verify that your flow is between 300-400 GPH.

ddier2020
05/19/2009, 08:59 AM
How to I adjust the water level? Using more flow or with the wedge. I have quite bit of flow going in already. And if I adjust it with the wedge I would have to close it about 70%

serpentman
05/19/2009, 09:06 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15038106#post15038106 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ddier2020
How to I adjust the water level? Using more flow or with the wedge. I have quite bit of flow going in already. And if I adjust it with the wedge I would have to close it about 70%

That seems to be about where my wedge pipe is.

JRaquatics
05/19/2009, 01:01 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15022073#post15022073 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ddier2020
my main pump, a reeflo blackfin, tuned down.

How do you have a Blackfin hooked up to this skimmer and how is it tuned down? I also agree I ran mine with the water level just prior to the coupling joint of the cup and body.

ddier2020
05/19/2009, 01:53 PM
The blackfin is my main pump, it goes to a manifold that runs my chiller, skimmer, phosban reactor and return to my tank. each outlet from the manifold has a ball valve.

JRaquatics
05/19/2009, 02:05 PM
I see your feeding the skimmer with a Blackfin. I would just close the output valve so the internal water level raises to the underside of the cup and body joint and see how it works then.

poolkeeper1
05/19/2009, 02:09 PM
Cause/Cure What Is the reason for the Wedge Pipe to become almost Impossible to adjust, It has become so hard to turn I'm afraid I'm gonna break something. ???

JRaquatics
05/19/2009, 02:13 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15039964#post15039964 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by poolkeeper1
Cause/Cure What Is the reason for the Wedge Pipe to become almost Impossible to adjust, It has become so hard to turn I'm afraid I'm gonna break something. ???

Lube the o-ring up with silicone grease.

poolkeeper1
05/19/2009, 02:52 PM
OK, Thanks I'll try and find some.

bhdmc
06/08/2009, 12:41 PM
The skimmer has been set-up and running for approx. 28 days without producing any skimmate. It just bubbles at the water line by the black ring at the neck. Based on reading this post, the average time for break-in is approx. three weeks. Has anyone gone longer than 3 weeks before producing skimmate?

Guy340
06/08/2009, 12:47 PM
Umm, I had skimmate pretty much the next day, so I've never had any issues. Somethings gotta be amiss. Are you draining to a collection cup? I noticed that when I'm not draining, skimmate is produced a little better, but that may have been a fluke.

CarlosS
06/08/2009, 12:51 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15157040#post15157040 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bhdmc
The skimmer has been set-up and running for approx. 28 days without producing any skimmate. It just bubbles at the water line by the black ring at the neck. Based on reading this post, the average time for break-in is approx. three weeks. Has anyone gone longer than 3 weeks before producing skimmate?

Yes my skimmer started to produce in the same week.

Now, I think you missunderstood something.

The water level has to be under the black ring where the cup rest, WHEN THE RECIRCULATING PUMP IS OFF.

You are saying that the skimmer bubbles at this point, that's your problem.

Follow this simples instructions:

1.- Turn off your recirculating pump (the one that is atached to your skimmer)
2.- Verify the water level into your skimmer.
3.- Raise or decrease that water level with the wedge pipe, until the level be just below the black ring at the skimmer neck.
4.- be sure to have about 300-400 GPH running into your skimmer.
5.- Wait for 1 hour.

Tell us what happens.

bhdmc
06/08/2009, 03:13 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15157110#post15157110 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by CarlosS
Yes my skimmer started to produce in the same week.

Now, I think you missunderstood something.

The water level has to be under the black ring where the cup rest, WHEN THE RECIRCULATING PUMP IS OFF.

You are saying that the skimmer bubbles at this point, that's your problem.

Follow this simples instructions:

1.- Turn off your recirculating pump (the one that is atached to your skimmer)
2.- Verify the water level into your skimmer.
3.- Raise or decrease that water level with the wedge pipe, until the level be just below the black ring at the skimmer neck.
4.- be sure to have about 300-400 GPH running into your skimmer.
5.- Wait for 1 hour.

Tell us what happens.

I will follow the above instruction and tell what happens, Thanks:)

bhdmc
06/08/2009, 03:19 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15157080#post15157080 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Guy340
Umm, I had skimmate pretty much the next day, so I've never had any issues. Somethings gotta be amiss. Are you draining to a collection cup? I noticed that when I'm not draining, skimmate is produced a little better, but that may have been a fluke.

I am alittle confused when you said "Am I draining to a collection cup?" Do you mean a waste collector? The collection cup is attach to a waste collector. Thanks. :)

drstupid
06/09/2009, 08:05 PM
i have an original model 200, and noticed that it really needed the drain line to vent air through it properly. i drilled four 1/8" holes in the lid (which i think is standard issue now), and that made it produce more consistently since it didn't need to rely on the drain line for the air flow.

my "waste collector" is a fancy 5 gallon spooge bucket with a hole in the lid for the line to hang in it, so it only blocks air flow when the spooge level gets high enough.

as an aside, i have a float switch on the lid of the bucket to shut off the recirc pump, this is a good precautionary measure for the occasional "i'm really skimming wet now" incidents that do occasionally occur.

Tony Romano
06/10/2009, 08:29 AM
Also return pipe to sump needs to be above water level or vented, I plumbed a T into mind because if I over filled sump a bit skimmer would not work. I got skimmate with in a day or two, right off you should get oil residue unless you gave it a vinegar bath.

Tony Romano
06/10/2009, 08:29 AM
Also return pipe to sump needs to be above water level or vented, I plumbed a T into mind because if I over filled sump a bit skimmer would not work. I got skimmate with in a day or two, right off you should get oil residue unless you gave it a vinegar bath.

bhdmc
06/30/2009, 01:41 PM
I am draining the output water of the skimmer into my sump. Is it better to have the pipe above the water level or in the water? Just wondering if this would have any effect on the performance of this skimmer or any skimmer. If you have it above the water level, how do you keep the water from splashing all over the place?:)

JRaquatics
06/30/2009, 01:44 PM
I would keep the outlet pipe vented or above water level so there is minimal back pressure on the skimmer. I recommend placing a tee or Y right before entering the sump with one end in the air to vent and the other submersed 2-3 inches.

Ron Popeil
06/30/2009, 01:51 PM
has anyone found a source for replacement neck O-rings? Mines broken and leaking, had to wrap the acrylic in teflon tape to operate it.

JRaquatics
06/30/2009, 02:10 PM
Contact Coral Vue or Reeflo for a replacement. If they can't come up with something most ace hardwares can make rubber orings of any size.

CarlosS
06/30/2009, 03:29 PM
Jeremy:

Do you know what is the air intake diameter? I would like to improve my skimmer and I understand I will have to change the air intake valve for a widther.

JRaquatics
06/30/2009, 03:40 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15282977#post15282977 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by CarlosS
Jeremy:

Do you know what is the air intake diameter? I would like to improve my skimmer and I understand I will have to change the air intake valve for a widther.

If I remember correctly the barb fitting is 3/8 pipe thread to 1/2 hose.

CarlosS
06/30/2009, 04:31 PM
thanks!!!

bhdmc
07/02/2009, 06:50 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15282285#post15282285 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JRaquatics
I would keep the outlet pipe vented or above water level so there is minimal back pressure on the skimmer. I recommend placing a tee or Y right before entering the sump with one end in the air to vent and the other submersed 2-3 inches.

Thanks for all you help!:)

heartandsoul
07/26/2009, 05:49 AM
hi. i have the orca 200 and i am running it on a 375 gallon reef and fish (15 fish) setup.. .. Is this skimmer big enough to handle this size tank? I keep reading to put the output tube at the same height as the lettering on the skimmer. Mine dosent have any lettering on it? Iam using a Mag 3 to run the skimmer and it dosent seem to pull out much at all.. I have the return pipe running to my refigium thats connected to my sump. The Pipe is about 6ft long to get there. Is that okay?.. thanks.

heartandsoul
07/26/2009, 05:51 AM
Forgot to mention. My sump +refigium is about a 100 gallons also.

JRaquatics
07/26/2009, 07:10 AM
Any pics of it running on your setup? I would suggest the Pro kit for a 375gal.

75pxatr
07/26/2009, 08:39 AM
A mag 3 might be too small?

I feed mine direct from the tank and it pulls lots of junk out of my 120.

serpentman
07/26/2009, 09:10 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15417955#post15417955 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by heartandsoul
hi. i have the orca 200 and i am running it on a 375 gallon reef and fish (15 fish) setup.. .. Is this skimmer big enough to handle this size tank? I keep reading to put the output tube at the same height as the lettering on the skimmer. Mine dosent have any lettering on it? Iam using a Mag 3 to run the skimmer and it dosent seem to pull out much at all.. I have the return pipe running to my refigium thats connected to my sump. The Pipe is about 6ft long to get there. Is that okay?.. thanks.

I strongly recommend the Pro kit.

I have been running a 200 w/ pro kit on my 300g display (525g total). My ORP hangs steady at 420 with no ozone or UV so I would say with a moderate bioload you will be fine.

heartandsoul
08/01/2009, 05:44 AM
i was wrong on the pump.. iam using a mag 7. i still gotta keep it closed almost all the way. i have it draining into a 5 gallon bucket and if i dont close it alot the bucket will stay empty for days and get just a little bit in the bottom of it.. i cut and drilled out the air tube outlet for more air. I still dont understand why mine has no name on the skimmer. its the newer one with the orca gold pump.

Guy340
08/01/2009, 09:57 AM
75pxatr,

How big is your bioload? I have a small bioload, and I get nothing out of the up.

heartandsoul
08/01/2009, 10:04 AM
14 fish , 500lbs of rock

bhdmc
08/14/2009, 11:31 AM
Just wondering if anyone else has this situation; when I change the filter sock or clean the cup and neck, it takes a few days before it starts to produce skimmate again.

75pxatr
08/14/2009, 12:05 PM
Describe how you have it plumbed in. Ideal way is water enters direct from tank. In my set up one overflow is plumbed to the skimmer and then as it exits it goes into the filter sock.

Sometimes it pulls more skim than others but never pulls nothing. How do you have the water height set?

75pxatr
08/14/2009, 12:08 PM
Guy 340 sorry I did not see your post. My 120 has 3 large tangs 5-7" and 3 lyetail anthias, and 2 clowns. I feed the tangs heavily. I have a large clean up crew as well. My tank is bare bottom.

How do you have your skimmer plumbed in? Does water enter directly from the tank or does it enter after some type of filtration?

75pxatr
08/14/2009, 12:20 PM
I also installed a gate valve that lets me adjust the water level with some degree of precision. Highly recommend. It requires a little "machining" with a dremel tool to use english pvc fittings but worth the time.

I too think that I will add the pro kit. IMO this should make it easier to adjust the skimmate.

bhdmc
08/14/2009, 03:04 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15529703#post15529703 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 75pxatr
Describe how you have it plumbed in. Ideal way is water enters direct from tank. In my set up one overflow is plumbed to the skimmer and then as it exits it goes into the filter sock.

Sometimes it pulls more skim than others but never pulls nothing. How do you have the water height set?

The display tank drains into a sump, then water is pump into the skimmer at 375 gph. The water height in the skimmer is set at 1/2" below the black ring. This level is with the venturi turned off.

75pxatr
08/14/2009, 09:00 PM
Post a photo of your set up. What is your bio load?

bhdmc
08/15/2009, 07:44 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15532300#post15532300 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 75pxatr
Post a photo of your set up. What is your bio load?

There are no fish just SPS corals which completely fills the tank. The tank is 125gal with a sump, UV, refuge(with LR and a 6" DSB), and PO4 reactor. There is approx. 200lbs of LR and 2" sand bed in the display tank. RODI water is use as top off and water change. Water change is only done once a month.

bhdmc
08/15/2009, 07:45 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15532300#post15532300 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 75pxatr
Post a photo of your set up. What is your bio load?

There are no fish just SPS corals which completely fills the tank. The tank is 125gal with a sump, UV, refuge(with LR and a 6" DSB), PO4 reactor and of course the reeflo skimmer. There is approx. 200lbs of LR and 2" sand bed in the display tank. RODI water is use as top off and water change. Water change is only done once a month. All display tank's water drains into the sump then goes to the support equipments and back into the sump.

heartandsoul
08/15/2009, 11:51 AM
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/212596mini-DSC01705.JPG

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/212596mini-DSC01704.JPG

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/212596mini-DSC01700.JPG


1st pic shows how i have the return set up. it runs back to the refigium

2nd pic shows pro kit. i have to put the wedge to almost closed to get anything out of it..

75pxatr
08/15/2009, 12:50 PM
BHDMC - from my perspective the 200 on a tank with a small bio load may be an overkill but I would err in that direction. I have not noticed the skim reduction when I change socks. If your water parameters are good, why sweat the small stuff?

Heartandsoul - I don't have the pro cup yet but why not let the water/bubble volume advance higher up the longer neck and pull more? thats what I plan to do. I'm not an engineer but if you do not raise the water volume, have you taken full advantage of the pro cup?

heartandsoul
08/15/2009, 02:04 PM
by rasing the water volume am i skimming more or less?

75pxatr
08/15/2009, 02:45 PM
skimming more. The intent of the larger neck was to let you control more water volume. Also I think they designers realized that it would be easier to adjust given the greater length. The way they come out of the box they can not be adjusted unless you significantly cut down the height of the exit water tube.

I'm happy with the skimmer but the standard unit could be a little more user friendly out of the box.

75pxatr
08/15/2009, 02:47 PM
by the way. I drilled 1/8 holes in the top of the lid to let air out. This seems to help too.

heartandsoul
08/15/2009, 07:29 PM
the pro kit comes with the holes drilled.

JRaquatics
08/15/2009, 10:35 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15534555#post15534555 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by heartandsoul
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/212596mini-DSC01705.JPG

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/212596mini-DSC01704.JPG

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/212596mini-DSC01700.JPG


1st pic shows how i have the return set up. it runs back to the refigium

2nd pic shows pro kit. i have to put the wedge to almost closed to get anything out of it..

Your height of you output tee is a little lower than I would like but you should still be able to get more control out of your wedge pipe. Did you get the Pro wheel? Is your venturi clean. Your air production with the pro kit should raise the head column all the way up the neck to the base of the cup. You will have to give the skimmer 2-3 weeks to break in the new pro components on your skimmer.

75pxatr
08/16/2009, 07:39 AM
How much does the pro wheel improve performance?

Tony Romano
08/16/2009, 08:41 AM
Hey JR - what make are the 2 reactors with blue tops? Looks like Marine Technical stuff.

JRaquatics
08/16/2009, 10:19 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15537862#post15537862 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 75pxatr
How much does the pro wheel improve performance?

It adds almost double the air and produces a finer bubble at close to the same wattage. But you do have to use the Pro cup in order to use the wheel.

JRaquatics
08/16/2009, 10:20 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15538067#post15538067 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Tony Romano
Hey JR - what make are the 2 reactors with blue tops? Looks like Marine Technical stuff.

I am not sure. That is heartandsoul 's tank.

heartandsoul
08/16/2009, 05:11 PM
they are made by next reef... they are the monster mr1's..

ddier2020
08/31/2009, 01:34 PM
Anyone know where to get a collection cup O-ring? mine dried out and has cracks, so it wont last long

JRaquatics
08/31/2009, 01:40 PM
You can get rubber ones made at most ACE Hardware's or Pool supply stores but I would suggest contacting CoralVue for a stock one if possible.

jbud2418
09/04/2009, 09:18 PM
Does anyone know where I could get a new lid for a orca 200.

75pxatr
10/22/2009, 12:25 PM
I feed my orca 200 from the tank drain. Is there any drawback to doing this versus pump feed???

Arcangelo
10/24/2009, 06:08 PM
Hello,

I just realized that there was a thread for the Reeflo 200... I know, i know where the hell have i been...

I just wanted to know, if i was to get the upgrade collection cup for my set up do i have the right equipment to run it?

I have the gold pump with the new pinwheel. Im pretty sure i do... I did buy it this past April when you guys had it for sale.

Not saying that its not working great right now cause this beast is unreal!!!!
I never owned any other skimmers but i have seen some others but none look or seem to work as good as the RF200. I am very happy that i bought it...

Thanks Angelo

Tony44
10/30/2009, 01:04 AM
Are there any known mods that increase performance for this skimmer?

hansonfam
11/07/2009, 12:21 PM
Jeremy
Do you still sell the extended cups and pinwheels for the 200

acropora nut
11/08/2009, 06:59 PM
I am sorry we have discontinued the
200 Pro Kit.

Lightsluvr
11/16/2009, 03:55 AM
I purchased Paul Whitby's (author of the Reefkeeping Magazine Orca 250 product review) backup 250 when I upgraded my tank in July. It has the optional Baldor motor on the Reeflo pump (label says 0807).

Please tell me you still have the Pro Collection cup and improved needle wheel for the Orca 250. (E-mail sent).

Thanks.

LL

hilde123
11/23/2009, 07:39 PM
Looking for people out there that are running the Reeflo ORCA 200 with ozone. I am running 50mg/hr of ozone and I dont see it has much affect on my skimmate production (It always seems a little dry though). My orp never seems to get above 330 so I was thinking of boosting the ozone dose. What dosage of ozone are others using that have the ORCA 200, or any other skimmer.

mkbtank
12/11/2009, 09:45 PM
Can I still get a replacement collection cup for a 200??? (Please say yes)

jwilliams860
12/11/2009, 10:19 PM
Can I still get a replacement collection cup for a 200??? (Please say yes)

Contact coralvue directly, they still have parts for these, since they were the company that imported them from Honya in Japan.

mkbtank
12/11/2009, 10:43 PM
Will do! Thanks!

Lightsluvr
12/12/2009, 07:10 AM
Contact coralvue directly, they still have parts for these, since they were the company that imported them from Honya in Japan.

Coralvue would have parts for a Reeflo skimmer????

Hmmm.... :confused: Maybe confusing Orca 200 with Octo 200? (A big difference!)

And every Coralvue skimmer I ever owned was imported from China, not Japan.

JME.

heartandsoul
12/14/2009, 11:22 AM
is there any benifit to feeding the skimmer directly from the tank? rather then a pump? the skimmer is about 5-6 feet below my tank. how would i go about setting it up to be directly fed from the tank if it is a better way to go ?

Lightsluvr
12/14/2009, 01:38 PM
is there any benifit to feeding the skimmer directly from the tank? rather then a pump? the skimmer is about 5-6 feet below my tank. how would i go about setting it up to be directly fed from the tank if it is a better way to go ?

There are a lot of oils, solids and other undesireables that float on the surface of your tank water. If the skimmer actually skims water from the tanks surface, you will get more of these solids into the skimmate. I have multiple overflows on my tank and one is devoted to the skimmer.

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff125/lightsluvr/070501.jpg

You can just gravity feed the skimmer from an overflow.

LL

heartandsoul
12/15/2009, 09:22 AM
how would i get the gravity feed started? would i need a ball valve to control the water flow? could i just put a pvc pipe up the back with a 90 degree elblow on it into the water? I've never done this kind of feeding for the skimmer.. so i am still alittle confused on how to correctly do it and to have to look good.

JRaquatics
12/15/2009, 09:29 AM
Gravity feeding is slightly difficult to plumb in correctly. You must have a y fitting and a valve to control the flow entering the skimmer. Some have found using vent pipes help discharge some of the air pockets entering the skimmer. Most of our customers that set up a overflow feed has since converted to a feed pump to feed their skimmers. I have set up systems both ways and still prefer a separate pump for a feed.

heartandsoul
12/15/2009, 09:43 AM
okay.. thanks.. i will leave it just the way it is then..

JRaquatics
12/15/2009, 09:53 AM
You will never know if you like it or not till you try it out yourself. You can always convert back to the pump feed very easily if your not happy with it.

Editour2
01/03/2010, 09:19 AM
Is there somewhere online where I could download the instruction manual for the orca 200? Or could someone scan their's and send it to me in a file? I could provide an email address. Also looking for a parts list. Thanks in advance for your help.

Lightsluvr
01/03/2010, 09:40 AM
Is there somewhere online where I could download the instruction manual for the orca 200? Or could someone scan their's and send it to me in a file? I could provide an email address. Also looking for a parts list. Thanks in advance for your help.

I'd like the same info for the Orca 250. I think they are both included in the same manual, but not sure.

LL

Editour2
01/04/2010, 02:07 PM
Anyone know why the reeflo orca 250 has the neck screws and the 200 doesn't? (at least in the pics shown here and in my version).

akidnamedchad
11/21/2010, 07:58 PM
Do they sell parts for the reeflo, im looking for a new neck seal.

drstupid
11/22/2010, 07:16 AM
The manual for my 200 was essentially useless. This thread plus the reefkeeping review are all you need

drstupid
11/22/2010, 07:19 AM
Wow this thread has been quiet a long time; I just responded to a question from january.

Chad, try reef specialty or premium aquatics

180+55reef
02/04/2011, 06:46 AM
Hi
I have a reefflo 200 with the gold pump and ETSS collection cup, it is running on a vodka dosed 360 gallon system

I have very little collected skimate, most is clear green.......I got it used
the water level is right below the black "connection" when the blue switch is turned

any thought or ideas?

thanks

serpentman
02/04/2011, 07:17 AM
Do they sell parts for the reeflo, im looking for a new neck seal.

I believe they were made in the same factory as the Octopus. You might try a comparable Octopus model for replacement parts like this.

serpentman
02/04/2011, 07:19 AM
Hi
I have a reefflo 200 with the gold pump and ETSS collection cup, it is running on a vodka dosed 360 gallon system

I have very little collected skimate, most is clear green.......I got it used
the water level is right below the black "connection" when the blue switch is turned

any thought or ideas?

thanks

When you say ETSS cup, are you referring to the after market extended neck?

180+55reef
02/04/2011, 07:27 AM
as far as the ETSS cup, I dont know what that is lol, I just cut and pasted from what I was sold,

I dont have the extended neck though................

is that an add on (or an adjustment) and do they sell it any more
thank you

serpentman
02/04/2011, 08:05 AM
as far as the ETSS cup, I dont know what that is lol, I just cut and pasted from what I was sold,

I dont have the extended neck though................

is that an add on (or an adjustment) and do they sell it any more
thank you

Hmmm, ETSS is another skimmer manufacturer which is why I asked. If its the stock neck which is a few inches tall, I would consider dropping the water level in the the skimmer to where the body breaks (just above the Reeflo label). At your water current settings, you are probably creating too much turbulence in the neck to build a foam head.

As far as the aftermarket cup, Reef Specialty had made a "Pro Kit" which gave the neck another 6" of height. This helps reduced turbulence and greatly improves function. Unfortunately, since Reeflo exited the skimmer business, I think these were discontinued as well...

180+55reef
02/04/2011, 08:11 AM
Thanks!
So when I lower the water level, I get a lot less foam..............I had it at the top of the letters and have been moving it out to get more out.................

it is the neck that is tapered not not long at all

there must be some of the pro kit upgrades around

btw you would think I would still get some good junk out regardless, no?

Rueg
02/04/2011, 09:56 AM
How long has the skimmer been set up and running? It takes some time for them to get going. Even after a cleaning. If you bought it used from somebody it may take a week or so for it to condition and build up to where it is producing good foam.

mx36
02/04/2011, 10:27 AM
Thanks!
So when I lower the water level, I get a lot less foam..............I had it at the top of the letters and have been moving it out to get more out.................

it is the neck that is tapered not not long at all

there must be some of the pro kit upgrades around

btw you would think I would still get some good junk out regardless, no?

I emailed coralvue a few months ago looking for a pro kit for the 250. They said they had plenty of the pro cups for the 200 but none for the 250. Not sure if they have any more of the upgraded needle wheels. I had great customer service from them, they dug around looking for an upgraded needle wheel eventually finding one and even talked to the company that manufactured the 250 pro cup and had one built for me it should arrive at my house on Sat.

tony_3a
08/31/2011, 04:36 PM
Hey guys, time to wake up a dead thread, I would love it if i got some advice on this skimmer and Iit comes with the upgraded gold pump with the baldor motor?

I am setting up a larger prop tank around 300-400 gallons and will have some fish in there for their poop/cleaning abilities.

I am paying 400 for it delivered from a hour and a half away by the guy.

Thanks a lot
Tony

acropora nut
09/01/2011, 04:57 AM
Hi Tony,
I don't know what kind of response you will get but if you have any questions please give me a call.

Thank you

Mike

Gieser
12/28/2011, 11:42 PM
Does anyone know where I can get a Venturi valve for my reeflo skimmer? Mine broke, and I had to glue it back together, but now I can no longer adjust it.

Thanks in advance.