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mille239
02/12/2009, 12:09 PM
Ok, so I was thumbing through the latest Drs. Foster & Smith fish catalog, and on page 12, they have a full page ad for this Dr. Tim's "One & Only" Biological filter jump starter. It claims you can add it to a newly set up salt water aquarium, and within 24 hours, add up to one medium sized fish per gallon!!!

Now even for the the most well established aquariums, this is considered SEVERLY overstocked.

here are a couple links for the product.

Drs. Foster & Smith link (http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=18986)

Link to the product mfg. (http://www.drtimsaquatics.com/Helpful_hints/OneandOnlyFAQs/OneandOnlyFAQs.html)


Anyone used this before, and have any comments on it's capabilities?

Jenisiz
02/12/2009, 12:17 PM
My tanks have been packed before, but never to that extent....that's kinda recockulous. IMHO...never follow the inches per gallon rule either. Research the fish and then determine if your tank will support it. I think we all know when our tanks are at our limits or when the fish are stressed. If you don't, pick up a book and research more.

Sk8r
02/12/2009, 12:22 PM
On that recommendation, the fish would soon not even have room to turn around. Aggression from the mildest species.

mille239
02/12/2009, 12:29 PM
It may still be a very good product for initializing the biological filter, especially with so many tanks being set-up with only dry rock now-a-days, but alas, I guess my hopes of adding 210 fish to my future 210 gallon tank within 24 hours may be unrealistic. Now I just have to figure out which 209 fish on my list are 'must-haves' :)

reefscape15
02/12/2009, 01:18 PM
i've heard of tanks being set up with un-cured base rock, but i would never do dry rock! It's really not much more that $3-4/lb if you get boxed live rock anyways, and so much more benneficial for your tank and inhabitants. It might be expensive if you have a large tank, but people need to remember that this is an expensive hobby, and really there is no excuse for going cheap

GSMguy
02/12/2009, 02:00 PM
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GSMguy
02/12/2009, 02:00 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14379315#post14379315 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefscape15
i've heard of tanks being set up with un-cured base rock, but i would never do dry rock! It's really not much more that $3-4/lb if you get boxed live rock anyways, and so much more benneficial for your tank and inhabitants. It might be expensive if you have a large tank, but people need to remember that this is an expensive hobby, and really there is no excuse for going cheap


Meh, nothing wrong with dry base rock as long as it's clean, there is nohing but invasive species on that boxed LR it's covered In algae and dead sponges that can cause more problems than you can imagine.

My next tank will be setup using ceramic rocks cured for a couple months before I add them to the tank.

Megabite
02/12/2009, 02:08 PM
Cool! I can have 180 medium size fish now!!!!:cool:

Electrobes
02/12/2009, 02:13 PM
My tank was started with all base rock, but it does take a heck of a lot more patience to not stock anything for a while.

That has to be a misprint.. I'm sure they'll hear about it, if they haven't already.

rldavisou
02/12/2009, 02:28 PM
If you read their website, it doesn't really make the claim for marine systems, but here's a quote about FW stocking:

In general, you can add one giant danio-sized fish per gallon when initially dosing with One & Only. Feed normally and monitor ammonia and nitrite levels in the water. You might see a little ammonia or nitrite for a day or so but this will quickly disappear. You can then add more fish to the aquarium.

This is 4" fish in every gallon. Even if it's a miracle product and can filter that well, you will wind up with a bunch of dead danios due to lack of space.

mille239
02/12/2009, 02:33 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14379315#post14379315 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefscape15
i've heard of tanks being set up with un-cured base rock, but i would never do dry rock! It's really not much more that $3-4/lb if you get boxed live rock anyways, and so much more benneficial for your tank and inhabitants. It might be expensive if you have a large tank, but people need to remember that this is an expensive hobby, and really there is no excuse for going cheap

I stocked my current 120 project with nothing but dry rock (marco rocks) for just the reason GSMguy stated: No pests, unwanted, nuisance critters, valonia, hair algae, hydroids, etc...

Granted it does take longer to get going, but it will eventually turn live, and be covered with coralline algae, and you'd be hard pressed to differentiate it from packaged live rock. This doesn't go to say you won't get unwanted pests in your tank; they can still arrive on corals, frags, etc, but IMO it's easier to control, and I'd prefer not to start off with them, and let them get a foothold.