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killagoby
11/29/2009, 09:16 PM
you would have to raise the other skimmer s up. I always had lighter skimmate from the urchin I had. it still worked. No sense putting a big pump on it to just choke it back.

I had to choke it back b/c it was overflowing (just like my Euro Reef). I have the cup as high as it can get and I don't want to turn the pump down anymore. If I do, it just doesn't skim. Either way it skims wet, or not at all.

mojo~
11/29/2009, 09:29 PM
you will get that until you raise the skimmer. Sounds like you need a skimmer stand.

mojo~
11/29/2009, 09:33 PM
Hey, sorry to bother you again. Would the octopus extreme 160 be worth the extra money, or should I just get the 150??

Thanks again

the octo extreme will skim great and is better for a higher load. just a little more finiky but not bad . I would just get the MSX 160 and get the better pinhweel right off the bat.

MSX-Jeff
11/29/2009, 10:54 PM
...why cant ATB just make a baby cone haha
thanks
- rick

They do!!! Look at the ATB multi :)

mojo~
11/29/2009, 10:56 PM
I actually pm;d that to them :)

MSX-Jeff
11/29/2009, 11:00 PM
I thought you knew about that one ;)

mojo~
11/29/2009, 11:11 PM
Yea i almost bought one for my 57g but i built a new skimmer instead. The thing is amazing.

killagoby
11/30/2009, 09:49 AM
you will get that until you raise the skimmer. Sounds like you need a skimmer stand.


I wouldn't be able to raise it. Most skimmers will not skim in this deep of H2O. That is one of the reasons why I chose the Urchin. I guess I'll just deal with wet skimming.

:frog:

mojo~
11/30/2009, 09:55 AM
if you had room you could go external recirc

killagoby
11/30/2009, 02:44 PM
if you had room you could go external recirc

No room either. I'm in a lose/lose situation. LMAO!

rick88
11/30/2009, 07:26 PM
mojo, what about a 33 gallon sps with a complete system volume of arround 40 gallons? price is not a problem

mojo~
11/30/2009, 08:39 PM
No price limit. An Bk 300 deluxe.
jk really at about 40 gallons a couple come to mind.
the tunze 9002 is on the smaller side for that.
The vertex in 100
The bubble magnus NA7
and probably the best of the group the MRC ocean force 100
I say best becuase it will have good performance and is built in the us and is built very solid. All good skimmers.

dskrezyna
11/30/2009, 10:16 PM
Mojo,

Can you recommend 3 skimmers for a 90g reef ready tank? thanks

rick88
11/30/2009, 10:39 PM
ive heard good things about itechs 100 any oppinion?

mojo~
11/30/2009, 10:55 PM
Mojo,

Can you recommend 3 skimmers for a 90g reef ready tank? thanks

ATB 840, Vertex in 180, Warner marine as 150.

4G1v3N
11/30/2009, 10:59 PM
What has your experience/opinion been of the Aqua EV-240? I just bought one and am running it with a mag 18 on a 180g.

mojo~
11/30/2009, 11:16 PM
Power hungry pump for ok performance. Cycles a lot of water. and a little noisey.

For the money you have in that skimmer and pump you can get a more efficient Vertex in 280 or a msx 250A

TexasTodd
12/03/2009, 09:15 PM
Anyone have a SRO 5000 with BB5000 pump?

Mojo, opinion?

Thanks,

Todd

koga57
12/03/2009, 09:51 PM
Vertex IN 100 Protein Skimmer in use since July 2009.

For no apparent reason, the skimmer is pushing water to the top of the skimmer. Literally just below the edge. I have not changed any settings, nor have I added any chemicals to the tank.

I did attempt to adjust the "open" "closed" a little 24 hours after this started and I cannot get it to change.

Any ideas?

Thank you

Volcano1
12/03/2009, 10:10 PM
Just got a SRO 5000 ext. last week. Set it up in my sump to break in. Build quality is good,pump seems to pull alot of air. Fills the body with nice dense white foam.
Pump is quiet, has nice long cord.Just breaking in, pulling some tea colored skimate.
Using eheim 1260 to feed, needs to be dialed down alittle to be able to get some adjustment in the neck. Wide open it will skim wet or slightly overflow.Collecton cup comes off easy, no flange to twist, just an o-ring.Unions on all hook ups.Gues that's all the basics.
If you have more specific questons, I can try and answer.

HTH's,

Todd

MSX-Jeff
12/03/2009, 10:24 PM
Check the airline/venturi to make sure there isn't any salt creep blocking the airflow.

mojo~
12/03/2009, 11:16 PM
Anyone have a SRO 5000 with BB5000 pump?

Mojo, opinion?

Thanks,

Todd

Nice skimmer and make sure it balances your tank load. not for a small tank.

mojo~
12/03/2009, 11:18 PM
Vertex IN 100 Protein Skimmer in use since July 2009.

For no apparent reason, the skimmer is pushing water to the top of the skimmer. Literally just below the edge. I have not changed any settings, nor have I added any chemicals to the tank.

I did attempt to adjust the "open" "closed" a little 24 hours after this started and I cannot get it to change.

Any ideas?

Thank you

Sounds like your air inlet is getting clogged. may not be in the line but in the venturi itself.

koga57
12/04/2009, 08:55 AM
Thanks for the hints.

I will take it out of the sump this evening and take a look.

Koga57
David

TexasTodd
12/04/2009, 10:52 AM
Thanks Mojo,

I'll be up to about 250g system soon.

Todd

xgames
12/04/2009, 01:30 PM
What is the best skimmer for a 180 gallon, medium to heavy stocking?

Townes
12/04/2009, 03:05 PM
What is the best skimmer for a 180 gallon, medium to heavy stocking?



lol thats subjective. How much room do you have in your sump/whats your price range?

Buganddoug
12/04/2009, 04:30 PM
What is the best skimmer for a 180 gallon, medium to heavy stocking?

Hi I have a 180 gallon heavily stocked Reef tank and I have a Warner Marine K2 Cone skimmer. All I have to say is I love that skimmer. Skims like a pig.

jonewald
12/04/2009, 05:03 PM
Looking for a skimmer to for my 55gal anemone DT that would go in my 20L sump. I was thinking a Vertex IN-80, Tunze 9005, or a Bubble Magus NAC6. Should I go with one of these or something different?

Saltfun2003
12/04/2009, 09:39 PM
Looking for idea for a new skimmer for new build of around 300g total system. 190g DT pure sps. currently have a mrc2 not big enough for new upgrade plus power hungry. Looking for some type of recirculating and can be gravity fed. Have room to run external or internal. No height or noise problems since the sump is in the basement. Have looked into deltecs and h&s as long as reflo. Just started looking into the differnt cones. What would you recommend?

mojo~
12/04/2009, 10:11 PM
What is the best skimmer for a 180 gallon, medium to heavy stocking?

I agree that is open to alot of things. But you will want to make sure the pum moves enough water as well as pulling a good amount of air and is balanced. first skimmer that comes to mind is the ATB 1050 then the Warner MArine AS200. Not sure of you budget but I would start there and possibly look at the new super reef octo's and the msx 250A

mojo~
12/04/2009, 10:13 PM
Looking for idea for a new skimmer for new build of around 300g total system. 190g DT pure sps. currently have a mrc2 not big enough for new upgrade plus power hungry. Looking for some type of recirculating and can be gravity fed. Have room to run external or internal. No height or noise problems since the sump is in the basement. Have looked into deltecs and h&s as long as reflo. Just started looking into the differnt cones. What would you recommend?

I would look at the new deltecs. Very nice for your recirc ap. or even the super reef octo external

cobra2326
12/08/2009, 01:39 PM
Hey guys. I currently have an RS80 on my 55g tank with 10g sump (55g NWV). I have a light-medium bio load right now, but plan to get heavier as I stock more corals. On top of that I dose vodka.

First off, does it make sense for me to upgrade my skimmer or will an RS80 be fine unless my bioload gets REALLY heavy?

If so, what skimmer would you recommend? I don't have much room in the sump, so I was thinking about an MSX160. I like the bubble plate, profile, and pump under the skimmer. Any other skimmer models that compete? Would that be too much overkill for my tank? I probably won't upgrade until I increase stock levels a bit more.

Last question: as far as performance, how does the MSX160 compare to the BK Mini 160. I know the BK is better build quality, quieter, less power consumption and probably less quirky, but is the ultimate performance going to be worth 3X the price? I'm pretty budget conscious and noise/power consumption aren't really important to me. I can deal with build quality also as long as performance is high.

davemc1234
12/08/2009, 02:09 PM
Hi I have a deltec ap703 on a 1000 litres system is this a bit over kill it is a sps system,my other question is should I be wet skimming or dry .many thanks dave

theyammieguy
12/08/2009, 05:43 PM
Hey Mojo,
What skimmer do you recommend for an oceanic 58g rimless(same as yours), and a 40g sump/fuge?

Also, do you think one MP20 would be good enough flow for a non sps tank?

killagoby
12/08/2009, 07:17 PM
Hey Mojo,
What skimmer do you recommend for an oceanic 58g rimless(same as yours), and a 40g sump/fuge?

Also, do you think one MP20 would be good enough flow for a non sps tank?

I've got a MP20 on a 70 gallon Oceanic Tech Tank with LPS's and it is plenty of flow...

theyammieguy
12/08/2009, 08:17 PM
I was reading his build thread and he uses 2 MP10's and is happy with them.

reeftivo
12/10/2009, 03:52 PM
Looking for a skimmer to for my 55gal anemone DT that would go in my 20L sump. I was thinking a Vertex IN-80, Tunze 9005, or a Bubble Magus NAC6. Should I go with one of these or something different?

Vertex!

The 9005 has too many mixed reviews and the magus uses an Atman pump(junk) IMO.

mojo~
12/10/2009, 05:19 PM
Hey guys. I currently have an RS80 on my 55g tank with 10g sump (55g NWV). I have a light-medium bio load right now, but plan to get heavier as I stock more corals. On top of that I dose vodka.

First off, does it make sense for me to upgrade my skimmer or will an RS80 be fine unless my bioload gets REALLY heavy?

If so, what skimmer would you recommend? I don't have much room in the sump, so I was thinking about an MSX160. I like the bubble plate, profile, and pump under the skimmer. Any other skimmer models that compete? Would that be too much overkill for my tank? I probably won't upgrade until I increase stock levels a bit more.

Last question: as far as performance, how does the MSX160 compare to the BK Mini 160. I know the BK is better build quality, quieter, less power consumption and probably less quirky, but is the ultimate performance going to be worth 3X the price? I'm pretty budget conscious and noise/power consumption aren't really important to me. I can deal with build quality also as long as performance is high.


just keep the rs80

mojo~
12/10/2009, 05:20 PM
Hi I have a deltec ap703 on a 1000 litres system is this a bit over kill it is a sps system,my other question is should I be wet skimming or dry .many thanks dave
Skim how you like. For me I skim dryer. So its all personal pref. good luck and thats a nice skimmer.

mojo~
12/10/2009, 05:22 PM
Hey Mojo,
What skimmer do you recommend for an oceanic 58g rimless(same as yours), and a 40g sump/fuge?

Also, do you think one MP20 would be good enough flow for a non sps tank?

The mp 20 wwould be great.skimmer wise I would get one of the following
Vertex in 100
Bubble magnus NA7
Warner marine s 150
or the GSA six would be nice as well. it has the pump on the inside. nice little skimmer made in the USA

mojo~
12/10/2009, 05:24 PM
yea I like my mp10's I think they are about right having 2. If I went with one I think a mp20 would be fine.

GPhiAce
12/10/2009, 05:26 PM
Can anyone recommend a good external recirc skimmer for a 200g volume with a heavy bioload??? I am looking at the MRC 2R because of the upgrading aspect. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

rroselavy
12/10/2009, 05:44 PM
just keep the rs80

+1

mojo~
12/10/2009, 06:18 PM
Can anyone recommend a good external recirc skimmer for a 200g volume with a heavy bioload??? I am looking at the MRC 2R because of the upgrading aspect. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

The Deltecs are always a good choice. but also the Warner marine RX 200 would be good and the superreef octo 5000 would be a good choice.

The ATB externals are super nice but are a little pricey. great product though.

GPhiAce
12/10/2009, 08:38 PM
The Deltecs are always a good choice. but also the Warner marine RX 200 would be good and the superreef octo 5000 would be a good choice.

The ATB externals are super nice but are a little pricey. great product though.

so are you recommending them over the 2R or do you not have experience with the 2R. Thanks for the input mojo-- been following your posts lately.

mojo~
12/10/2009, 08:49 PM
well the mrc 2r is a heck of a skimmer. But I think its a bit much for what you are doing. With dual becketts the pump you will need to run to put some serious pressure behind them will be pretty big. Like a pw150 or a bl 40.

It will skim your tank well I am sure. But it is louder then a pinwheel skimmer and will be power hungry. if you have it already or can get a really good deal thats one thing but otherwise I would look into something more effiecient.

cobra2326
12/11/2009, 10:15 AM
just keep the rs80

+1

Alrighty then. I'm a bit suprised to hear that, but sounds good. I'm just used to seeing people have skimmers that are WAYY oversized for their tanks, and with vodka I thought I might still need more.

BTW, nitrates are finally zero with vodka and BB! W00t!

rroselavy
12/11/2009, 12:20 PM
Alrighty then. I'm a bit suprised to hear that, but sounds good. I'm just used to seeing people have skimmers that are WAYY oversized for their tanks, and with vodka I thought I might still need more.

BTW, nitrates are finally zero with vodka and BB! W00t!

Although I agree that others tend to super-size, technically speaking, your skimmer is oversized at 420lph of air, rated conservatively for a 80g. The RS80 could probably skim up to a 120g (without carbon dosing) if you do not heavily stock.

BTW: I have a RS80 in the closet that I used for 9 months. I am now using an i-Tech 100 (400lph of air), which is rated somewhat conservatively at 100g. The i-Tech has an edge because of the controlled turbulence, but I think either one would handle vodka dosing on your 58g or my 56g.

tangtang clown
12/12/2009, 06:35 AM
Can anyone recommend a good external recirc skimmer for a 200g volume with a heavy bioload??? I am looking at the MRC 2R because of the upgrading aspect. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

I think one of the new skimmers with the Bubble Blaster pump would be killer for you. I would compare the pumps to the Askoll pumps, but way less expensive. I would search for on with the BB5000 for a 200 gallon. I have a 2 year old OCTO Extreme 200 body with the BB3000 pump and it is way better than the stock Octo Ex 200. Hope this helps.

TexasTodd
12/12/2009, 08:26 AM
I can't believe the advances in skimmers in the last 2-3 years.

Mike a www.reefspecialty.com steered me to the Super Reef Octo 5000 with BB5000 pump.

This thing is amazing! Quiet, skims like mad, and very steady on adjustment AFTER the break in period.

I had heard from a good friend that the Red Dragon / Askoll pumps can throw a lot of heat. The BB5000 is quiet and does not seem to add much heat to my system.

100% satisfied with this skimmer.

Mojo also thought they looked good a bit back which added confidence in the decision.

Thanks,

Todd

theyammieguy
12/12/2009, 12:42 PM
What skimmer should I get for a 58g DT with a 20-40 sump?

itswayner
12/12/2009, 02:06 PM
I have a 90G RR tank with a 40G breeder sump, would you recommend the MSX 160 or 200?

mojo~
12/12/2009, 05:50 PM
What skimmer should I get for a 58g DT with a 20-40 sump?

A vertex in 100, a Bubble magnus NA7, Warner marine s 150, or a bubble king mini 160.

theyammieguy
12/12/2009, 06:12 PM
Thanks MOJO. I know I asked you before about the 40b, but have decided to get the 58g like you have.

GPhiAce
12/12/2009, 06:42 PM
Do anyone have any recommendations for a in sump skimmer for a 200g heavy bioload??? have about 27 inches of clearance, and the foot print is not that big of a deal. I have recommendations for external models (thanks mojo) and am now exploring my options. I am looking for a great skimmer. Any recommendations would be great. I am researching the octopus skimmers-- good reviews, but there are alot of them. Thanks.

rkaires
12/13/2009, 07:15 AM
The ATB 1050a would be a good option. Its 21.5" tall and only requires 1/2" to remove the cup.

mojo~
12/13/2009, 08:21 AM
Yes I would say the ATB 1050A would be at the top of the list. Some other great options would be the the MSX 1a, the MSX 250A, THe warner MArine AS 200, The Hurricone cat 1, the New super reef octo's and the new deltec skimmers would work very well for you.

Mojo~

holdyourlight
12/13/2009, 04:32 PM
Hey MOjo!

What are my options for a 125G with 30G sump that will be heavily stocked?!

Here are a few things to narrow it down............My sump is 12" wide, i don't care for Sicce pumps.............

Looking at the SRO-5000SSSINT or the XP-2000sss not sure which would be better

is there a better skimmer in that price range? i know i want a skimmer with a bubble blaster or an askol and that one will fit in my sump........

rick88
12/13/2009, 06:29 PM
what about for a 40g sps system

i like the kz revolution s

mojo~
12/13/2009, 06:51 PM
Hey MOjo!

What are my options for a 125G with 30G sump that will be heavily stocked?!

Here are a few things to narrow it down............My sump is 12" wide, i don't care for Sicce pumps.............

Looking at the SRO-5000SSSINT or the XP-2000sss not sure which would be better

is there a better skimmer in that price range? i know i want a skimmer with a bubble blaster or an askol and that one will fit in my sump........

well if you are stuck with the bubble blaster then you choose between the two. Otherwise look at the WM as 150/200, the ATB 840, or the msx 250A although I think that is too much and will not perform consistantly as your tank will give it enough load.

mojo~
12/13/2009, 06:53 PM
what about for a 40g sps system

i like the kz revolution s

The are ok, Not much air draw but move a good amount of water. uses a injector so its a bit different. What about saving some money and getting a BM NA7 or a warner marine as150.

rick88
12/13/2009, 07:17 PM
have you heard good things about the BMs i know you get what you pay for in this hobby

jcmccue
12/13/2009, 07:31 PM
Thanks in advance for the help

I installed a new Octopus Xtreme 160 about 3 weeks ago. My system is a 90 gallon system that is about 6 months old. I have 6 small fish and a few corals

The skimmer is not making an y skimmate. I have the discharge fully closed and while it is making foam, none is rising up into the cup

Any help is welcome

Thanks
This picture is a bit dated, but you get the idea
http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/ad357/jcmccue/IMG_1751.jpg

mojo~
12/13/2009, 07:51 PM
It cant be closed all the way or it would overflow non stop. pull the pipe out and look at it. make sure the stickers are on right.

mojo~
12/13/2009, 07:52 PM
have you heard good things about the BMs i know you get what you pay for in this hobby

Well ill know more as I ll get one thursday night.

holdyourlight
12/13/2009, 08:27 PM
well if you are stuck with the bubble blaster then you choose between the two. Otherwise look at the WM as 150/200, the ATB 840, or the msx 250A although I think that is too much and will not perform consistantly as your tank will give it enough load.

I am not "stuck" with the bubble blaster..just wondering if there is a better option for me than the super reef octopus???..but since you put it that way are you saying the the bubble blaster is inferior to the pumps used on the other skimmers you mentioned?
doesnt the ATB 840 use a Sicce? the bb is superior to the sicce, correct?

and are you are saying the MSX would be too much for my system? i know askoll is a great pump....

help me make up my mind:confused:

mojo~
12/13/2009, 09:35 PM
For a 125 the ATB 840 uses a modified pump that uses a sicce motor block with a custom volute.

Your tank isnt really big enough to support the load a msx 250 A would need.The bubble blaster is a good pump but it is pretty good size.

luther1200
12/13/2009, 09:48 PM
Hey MOjo!

What are my options for a 125G with 30G sump that will be heavily stocked?!

Here are a few things to narrow it down............My sump is 12" wide, i don't care for Sicce pumps.............

Looking at the SRO-5000SSSINT or the XP-2000sss not sure which would be better

is there a better skimmer in that price range? i know i want a skimmer with a bubble blaster or an askol and that one will fit in my sump........

I am no skimmer expert, but if you are not wanting a Sicce, maybe look at I-Techs. Which use a Tunze Hydrofoamer, or the bigger models use modified Askoll's. I should have mine in a few days. I chose them because they are in the US, have great customer service, and I also wasn't wanting to use a Sicce after reading about all the startup and reversing issues they can have.

mojo~
12/13/2009, 10:22 PM
before buying a itech I would look at a cs 200 cone with the quiet one pump.

holdyourlight
12/13/2009, 10:28 PM
For a 125 the ATB 840 uses a modified pump that uses a sicce motor block with a custom volute.

Your tank isnt really big enough to support the load a msx 250 A would need.The bubble blaster is a good pump but it is pretty good size.

what about a bubble king mini 180 any reason you did not mention this one?

mojo~
12/13/2009, 10:33 PM
its it $1000 new. I really like it and model my skimmers a little after this line.

holdyourlight
12/13/2009, 10:36 PM
its it $1000 new. I really like it and model my skimmers a little after this line.

would it be better than any of the skimmers mentioned? (super octo, atb, warner marine.....) for my tank?

mojo~
12/13/2009, 10:39 PM
nt really its the easiest to clean but the others will perform as well.

jcmccue
12/14/2009, 06:06 AM
mojo

This skimmer has a wedge type flow control, so it can not truly ever get fully closed.

I and I checked and the labels are correct

mojo~
12/14/2009, 08:10 AM
it actull will be about 90 % closed and it will overflow like mad at that point. if not something else is seriously wrong.

mojo~
12/14/2009, 08:11 AM
I even build wedge pipes I dont build them like that anymore. I build them like the ATB does theres with a hole cut in the pipe rather than a 45 degree wedge.

carolina reefer
12/14/2009, 06:27 PM
Why not an IN180 vertex for the 125 with the 30 sump?

mojo~
12/14/2009, 07:24 PM
it would be a good in expensive option

prodman
12/14/2009, 11:05 PM
I am looking for a good bang for the buck skimmer. It will be going on a 100g tank
Thanks

tangtang clown
12/15/2009, 07:21 AM
prodman, any skimmer with a bubble blaster pump seems to be " A Big Bang for you buck". I put one on my OCTO X 200 and it is light years better than any skimmer I have used with a sicce pump.

prodman
12/15/2009, 08:31 AM
Do any come with one out of the box? I have been out of the loop for almost a year and its amazing how many new things are available in that time.

mojo~
12/15/2009, 09:35 AM
you can go with a ATB 840, the octoxp2000 the vertex in 180 will all be great skimmers for your tank and a wide variety of prices

g8gxp
12/15/2009, 10:05 AM
So i recently read a report that Saltwater Connection will be coming out with a new cone skimmer with an undermount pump, which would be ideal as my sump is very small. However, the retail price is substantially lower than anything i have seen for cone skimmers. the 150 gallon unit will run for $250 and uses an Atman 2500 hybrid pinwheel. Have you heard anything regarding these pumps or these skimmers? A silent pump is high on my list of requirements.

mojo~
12/15/2009, 10:09 AM
ill have a skimmer with this pump this week to play with and can give you a hands on opinion then. Should have it thursday afternoon.

tangtang clown
12/15/2009, 10:14 AM
Do any come with one out of the box? I have been out of the loop for almost a year and its amazing how many new things are available in that time.

There are quite a few. Many of which are cones.

mojo~
12/15/2009, 11:33 AM
the only cone with a bubble blaster is the octo cone that I am aware of. now there are other octo skimmers that use the bubbleblaster pump.
That pump is pretty even bigger than an askol in terms of physical size. So just make sure you have enough room.

Trigger01
12/15/2009, 11:53 AM
If you have posted the answers to these already I apologize for asking again but I got to page 20something and hadn't seen all of these so I figured I'd ask.

How do these skimmers rate (ie. good, better, best skimmer/pump):

C-Skim1200
ASM G2 or G3
PM RL 175 or 200
Super Reef Octo XP-2000
Vertex In 180 or 250

They are all $300-400 so cost really isn't an issue. My sump allows for 26"H x 14" x 10" max. I have a 150g reef tank, only a couple of small pieces of sps and lps, lots of mushrooms and fish.

Have narrowed down the search to these 5, would like some help/advice to narrow it down to 2 choices (IF POSSIBLE ) and go from there. Thanks for your help!!

mikeatjac
12/15/2009, 02:57 PM
I like the last two options and for a tank your size with the bio load I would lean on the vertex.

mojo~
12/15/2009, 03:43 PM
out of those the Vertex in 180 is probably the best bang for the buck. The newer octo cone is nice too but its about $100 more. Its nice but again the vertex is really solid. The 180 is really ncely balanced.

Mojo~

steevareno2002
12/15/2009, 04:09 PM
I have an Octopus 800S and after 2 weeks it's still throwing big bubbles into my tank. I haven't done any mods to it. How can i cut down on these?

Canarygirl
12/23/2009, 12:48 PM
Hi

Can someone tell me how to mod an Eheim 1260 to work as a skimmer pump...like, what type of pinwheel impeller would fit in it? Is there anything else required to make that work besides putting a different impeller in it? I've never modded a pump before so sorry if it's a dumb question.

My goal is to upgrade the performance of an Euroreef C8-2 skimmer (8" diameter x 24" height). It comes with a Sedra 500 pump as it is, and I have an extra Eheim 1260 I'm not using.....

Volcano1
12/23/2009, 02:42 PM
This may work for you. Someone who has some more knowledge can chime in.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1761952

Tofat
12/23/2009, 05:43 PM
Howdy, I had already started a thread about asking whether I needed a protein skimmer or not. Well I decided to get one, and now I just wanted your opinion on which one to get. I have a 65 gallon tank with a sump that I should be replacing with a refugium later. So I would like a really good one, I do not know if they make any under 300$ if possible. Or I guess the best one < that price. Thanks for advice in advance.

mojo~
12/23/2009, 09:03 PM
Under that price I would suggest the vertex in 100. Should be around $199 and is a great bangfor the buck skimmer. I think you will really like it.

Mojo~

mojo~
12/23/2009, 09:27 PM
I have an Octopus 800S and after 2 weeks it's still throwing big bubbles into my tank. I haven't done any mods to it. How can i cut down on these?

Are you running the sponges that came with the skimmer. They should help reduce this.

bbdreaux
12/23/2009, 10:35 PM
I am thinking of upgrading to the new xp5000 octopus external cone skimmer for my 180. Does anyone know the total footprint including pipes , pump etc.?

mojo~
12/24/2009, 08:04 AM
I am sure the specs are listed where they have them posted for sale.

moondoggy4
12/24/2009, 11:33 AM
Hi

Can someone tell me how to mod an Eheim 1260 to work as a skimmer pump...like, what type of pinwheel impeller would fit in it? Is there anything else required to make that work besides putting a different impeller in it? I've never modded a pump before so sorry if it's a dumb question.

My goal is to upgrade the performance of an Euroreef C8-2 skimmer (8" diameter x 24" height). It comes with a Sedra 500 pump as it is, and I have an extra Eheim 1260 I'm not using.....
There is a guy who is selling a Deltic pinwheel for that pump but you will have to ask about the volute also. I have that ER skimmer is it the old style many turns to remove the cup? I also have the sedra 5000 pump and the eheim pump. The eheim hole is different that the Sedra, the hole is taller and 1'' instead of 3/4''. The ehiem puts out a lot of water so you will need a small air line valve to restrict the air.

mojo~
12/24/2009, 01:03 PM
you will need the venturi as well

Mattmike
12/24/2009, 10:04 PM
So I just bought this Skimmer the ASM g4x skimmer with a sedra 15000 pump on it. I plug it in and it keeps overflowing...what do I do here please help?

Nemo Niblets
12/24/2009, 11:30 PM
Okay... I would like to keep the skimmer price under 500.

It's going in a 120 gallon with around 20 fish, 2 or 3 of them tangs. What skimmer should I get?

I was looking at...
-the Vertex In-180
-Octopus Xtreme 200
-Octopus XP2000 Cone
-Octopus Super Reef 2000

Which is the best?

And just a random thought... Would the Octopus Super Reef 3000 be overkill? It looks pretty cheap for a skimmer rated up to 300 gallons.

Thanks!

gbothepro
12/25/2009, 02:13 PM
Hey guys,

I have a 90 gallon DT/40 gallon sump. Do you think that a Vertex IN 250 would be too much?Cause I might be able to get one used for 3 months, for less than a new IN 180.

Thanks.

mojo~
12/25/2009, 08:46 PM
So I just bought this Skimmer the ASM g4x skimmer with a sedra 15000 pump on it. I plug it in and it keeps overflowing...what do I do here please help?

The slide tube should be all the way down. if its still overflowing then raise the skimmer. Its in too deep of water most likely.

what is your water level at. If its not too deep it could be from epoxy.

mojo~
12/25/2009, 08:53 PM
Okay... I would like to keep the skimmer price under 500.

It's going in a 120 gallon with around 20 fish, 2 or 3 of them tangs. What skimmer should I get?

I was looking at...
-the Vertex In-180
-Octopus Xtreme 200
-Octopus XP2000 Cone
-Octopus Super Reef 2000

Which is the best?

And just a random thought... Would the Octopus Super Reef 3000 be overkill? It looks pretty cheap for a skimmer rated up to 300 gallons.

Thanks!

I would go with the Vertex in 180 or the super reef 2000. I like the neck design on the vertex and yes the 3000 would be overkill imo. The design of the vertex is a little better but the pump design on the super reef is a little better. So its your call the vertex is cheaper....

mojo~
12/25/2009, 08:55 PM
Hey guys,

I have a 90 gallon DT/40 gallon sump. Do you think that a Vertex IN 250 would be too much?Cause I might be able to get one used for 3 months, for less than a new IN 180.

Thanks.
The 180 and 280 are better. The 250 is really tall. its like 30in tall. it is harder to get that one dialed in with the added head pressure of the height of the skimmer.

The 180 is about a perfect fit for you.

PowermanKW
12/25/2009, 09:39 PM
So have you done a review on the Super Reef XP 2000 Mojo?

powwer
12/25/2009, 10:29 PM
What would be good skimmers that is reasonably priced for a 800 gal that is med to stocked?

cykenp
12/25/2009, 11:06 PM
Hey, seems like there are alot of fans of the vertex skimmers for the midsize tanks. Wondering if you guys think a vertex IN180 would be enough for a 90 gal SPS only tank w/29 gal sump. I am planning on dosing vodka/MB7 so I might need more pull than usual. Or do you think I should drop the extra cash and get the Vertex IN280? I had considered a MRC MR-1 as well. Thanks!

Nemo Niblets
12/26/2009, 12:09 AM
How does the Reef Octopus Cone stack up to the Vertex In-180 and super reef octopus 2000? I have the option of buying a used one for 250.

Thanks!

Dozer
12/26/2009, 01:44 AM
Hi everyone,

I'm setting up a new 29gal. tank with 10-15gal. more in the sump. Based on this thread and a couple others, and especially on the great help/information from Mojo~, I think I have narrowed my choices to Vertex IN-80 or Bubble Magus NAC6. Would anyone care to offer some advice to help me choose one of these- or maybe something else that you like better?

Thanks!

ballebrian4u
12/26/2009, 02:04 AM
hey i am going to by a skimmer for my 90 gallon reef tank with heavy bio loud and want to spend 400 max! i have been looking at alot of forums and hear alot of mixed opinions. i have been looking at asm g2 , MSX ,VERTEX 180 , EURO REEF RS135, OCTOPUS SKIMMER PLEASE HELP ME CHOOSE A SKIMMER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

malawinovice
12/26/2009, 04:36 AM
Hello,

I have a 2 year old euro reef rs80 on my 75 gallon med bio load tanks with 20 sump.

How much of an upgrade would a oct ext 160 or a vertex 80 be?

These fit my sump. 11 by 9 space.
Thanks

mojo~
12/26/2009, 06:56 AM
Hi everyone,

I'm setting up a new 29gal. tank with 10-15gal. more in the sump. Based on this thread and a couple others, and especially on the great help/information from Mojo~, I think I have narrowed my choices to Vertex IN-80 or Bubble Magus NAC6. Would anyone care to offer some advice to help me choose one of these- or maybe something else that you like better?

Thanks!

The vertex in 80 will have a little larger foot print and will be builtjust slightly better than the NA6. However with the NA6 having the pump on the inside it will take up less space and will do a decent job for $150..

mojo~
12/26/2009, 06:59 AM
Hey, seems like there are alot of fans of the vertex skimmers for the midsize tanks. Wondering if you guys think a vertex IN180 would be enough for a 90 gal SPS only tank w/29 gal sump. I am planning on dosing vodka/MB7 so I might need more pull than usual. Or do you think I should drop the extra cash and get the Vertex IN280? I had considered a MRC MR-1 as well. Thanks!

The vertex in 180 would be a great choice. I ran the same skimmer on my 90g for some time. Minie pulled 32 scfh of air right out of the box. I was abe to mod it to get more . I hit just over 40 scfh on my vertex in 180 but It actually ran better stock. it s a nice running skimmer for the money. A280 is simply way to large. It will not skim consistantly and you wont be happy long term what so ever. Its a 10 in body skimmer as well.

mojo~
12/26/2009, 07:03 AM
Hello,

I have a 2 year old euro reef rs80 on my 75 gallon med bio load tanks with 20 sump.

How much of an upgrade would a oct ext 160 or a vertex 80 be?

These fit my sump. 11 by 9 space.
Thanks

You would find that it will pull more air and probably some more junk out of the tank for a couple days and then you probably wont get as much. You little euroreef should do a pretty good job for you. If you had a heavy bioload then I would say go for it. I am not a big fan of just spending money for no reason. other than skimmers...... lol. But really I think your RS 80 should do just fine for you. Might save the $$ and invest in upgrading th tank somewhere else

mojo~
12/26/2009, 07:23 AM
What would be good skimmers that is reasonably priced for a 800 gal that is med to stocked?

There are none reasonable for 800g. lol. JK
These are ones I would consider. you will need to cycle a good amount of water.

ETSS 1000 xr
The reeflo Orca pro 2
Deltec TC3070
ATB large
OR maybe go with two skimmers?

Those are just some ideas. Lots of water on one system means big skimmer.

Actually 2 msx 250A or 300A skimmers would work really well and probably be the route I would go as it would more efficient. Unless you need external then I would look at the others and maybe even the bermuda bps 10 or 14

Just my two cents.

PowermanKW
12/26/2009, 08:21 AM
So have you had a change to test the 2000 XP Mojo?

Nemo Niblets
12/26/2009, 10:47 AM
Okay, how is this one?http://afishybusiness.com/Protein_Skimmers/ATB_Cone_Skimmer/NEW_ATB_Econo_840_Protein_Skimmer_ATB-840?zenid=8s8jl4cpd2ptntnlvmertbvd41

I can get it used for 450. Is it better than the Super Reef Octopus 2000?

mojo~
12/26/2009, 10:50 AM
Okay, how is this one?http://afishybusiness.com/Protein_Skimmers/ATB_Cone_Skimmer/NEW_ATB_Econo_840_Protein_Skimmer_ATB-840?zenid=8s8jl4cpd2ptntnlvmertbvd41

I can get it used for 450. Is it better than the Super Reef Octopus 2000?

Th atb 840 is one of the best balances skimmers out. Really nice product. I would have one in my tank if my tank was a little bigger.

Ran the 840 and the 840 1.5 on my old tank and they both are amazing.

mojo~
12/26/2009, 10:53 AM
So have you had a change to test the 2000 XP Mojo?

I havent ran one in my tank but I got to play around with one. For the money they are pretty good. Not quite up to the initial numbers promised but a good skimmer none the less. Moves a good amount of water and air and runs well around 6 to 7 inches. anything more and you start to run out of adjustment room.

The bubble blaster pump is big in physical size. Bigger than I thought I it does have a slight hum. But still very quiet compared to most skimmers.

Nemo Niblets
12/26/2009, 11:06 AM
:idea:Th atb 840 is one of the best balances skimmers out. Really nice product. I would have one in my tank if my tank was a little bigger.

Ran the 840 and the 840 1.5 on my old tank and they both are amazing.

Would it be overkill on the 120? I can always feed more:idea:

gbothepro
12/26/2009, 11:46 AM
The 180 and 280 are better. The 250 is really tall. its like 30in tall. it is harder to get that one dialed in with the added head pressure of the height of the skimmer.

The 180 is about a perfect fit for you.






Thanks mojo..

I'll keep an eye out for one.. And is their any difference between Gen 1 and 2 besides the pump being fliiped??

theyammieguy
12/26/2009, 11:47 AM
Hey MOJO,
You recommended the BM NAC7 to me. I plan on the 57g oceanic with a sump between 20-40 gallons. The NAC7 is rated up to 180g. Is that going to skim to much for only around 100g total volume?

rkaires
12/26/2009, 12:52 PM
:idea:

Would it be overkill on the 120? I can always feed more:idea:

The 840 would work great on your system.

ballebrian4u
12/26/2009, 01:16 PM
hey i am going to by a skimmer for my 90 gallon reef tank with heavy bio loud and want to spend 400 max! i have been looking at alot of forums and hear alot of mixed opinions. i have been looking at asm g2 , MSX ,VERTEX 180 , EURO REEF RS135, OCTOPUS SKIMMER PLEASE HELP ME CHOOSE A SKIMMER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rkaires
12/26/2009, 02:00 PM
Th atb 840 is one of the best balances skimmers out. Really nice product. I would have one in my tank if my tank was a little bigger.

Ran the 840 and the 840 1.5 on my old tank and they both are amazing.

mojo~ this one has your name on it:
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad41/rkaires/mikro-skimmer-cone-atb.jpg

mojo~
12/26/2009, 06:50 PM
Thanks mojo..

I'll keep an eye out for one.. And is their any difference between Gen 1 and 2 besides the pump being fliiped??

yes the gen 2 have the better shaft to fix the pump issues the gen 1 s had

mojo~
12/26/2009, 06:51 PM
Hey MOJO,
You recommended the BM NAC7 to me. I plan on the 57g oceanic with a sump between 20-40 gallons. The NAC7 is rated up to 180g. Is that going to skim to much for only around 100g total volume?
I am running hte NA& on my 57g right now. Working very well


The ATB will be great on the 120

And I like the little ATB..
A lot.

cykenp
12/26/2009, 06:56 PM
The vertex in 180 would be a great choice. I ran the same skimmer on my 90g for some time. Minie pulled 32 scfh of air right out of the box. I was abe to mod it to get more . I hit just over 40 scfh on my vertex in 180 but It actually ran better stock. it s a nice running skimmer for the money. A280 is simply way to large. It will not skim consistantly and you wont be happy long term what so ever. Its a 10 in body skimmer as well.

Thanks for the advice mojo!!! So I guess in your opinion even if I had a 90g (120 total system) with a heavy loaded SPS and vodka dosing, the Vertex in180 would be enough?
Are there other skimmers you would also recommend? (I'm sure none beats the value of the vertex but just want to see what else you would choose for that type system)

ballebrian4u
12/26/2009, 07:29 PM
hey i am going to by a skimmer for my 90 gallon reef tank with heavy bio loud and want to spend 400 max! i have been looking at alot of forums and hear alot of mixed opinions. i have been looking at asm g2 , MSX ,VERTEX 180 , EURO REEF RS135, OCTOPUS SKIMMER PLEASE HELP ME CHOOSE A SKIMMER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PowermanKW
12/26/2009, 07:41 PM
I havent ran one in my tank but I got to play around with one. For the money they are pretty good. Not quite up to the initial numbers promised but a good skimmer none the less. Moves a good amount of water and air and runs well around 6 to 7 inches. anything more and you start to run out of adjustment room.

The bubble blaster pump is big in physical size. Bigger than I thought I it does have a slight hum. But still very quiet compared to most skimmers.

Thanks Mojo. I was just curious how such a big pump was going to do on a small body. But everyone seems real happy with them. Looks like they did a good job.

ballebrian4u
12/26/2009, 08:05 PM
whats a better skimmer msx , vetex ,octo !

joncat24
12/26/2009, 09:04 PM
hey i am going to by a skimmer for my 90 gallon reef tank with heavy bio loud and want to spend 400 max! i have been looking at alot of forums and hear alot of mixed opinions. i have been looking at asm g2 , MSX ,VERTEX 180 , EURO REEF RS135, OCTOPUS SKIMMER PLEASE HELP ME CHOOSE A SKIMMER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MSX 200 is what I would choose.

mojo~
12/26/2009, 09:41 PM
THe MSX 200 and Vertex in 180 are both 8 in bodies. The Vertex has a longer neck and smoother transition. The MSX has a smaller transistion and uses a sicce pump. The sicce pump has a lot of option but with the stock wheel will pull about 30 to 32 scfh of air. But is haunted by the rotational issues with the stock volute of the pump. I have shut mine off and restarted it and had it overflow too many times to deal with it.

The Vertex uses a cheaper pump but is a sedra knockoff pump. It pulls 32 scfh on pinwheel as well. You will get a arguement on this that could go on for sometime. However but most havent owned both skimmers and ran them both on the same setup. Now with vertex you have to make sure you get the gen 2 models as the gen 1 model pumps had a shaft that was too soft and would wear out. Any sold now are all gen 2. Great skimmers.

ballebrian4u
12/26/2009, 09:49 PM
so what do you perfer vertex 180 or msx 200 or a octupus becse i am going to buy it in the moning and i have no clue and i am realing on you to help me !!!

PowermanKW
12/26/2009, 11:53 PM
Hey, Mojo.... just curious. I might go to a 180g in the future. I have a 90g with a 60g sump fuge. now I could turn the 90g into a sump fuge, or keep the one I have.... however, I could use the 90g as a sump and turn the 60g into a full fuge. What would you suggest for a 180g with probably another 100g in a sump and fuge. I think my K2 would be maxed in that setup.

Scungili
12/27/2009, 08:28 AM
Hey Mojo, do you have any opinions on a SRO 5000 EXT 94610

on a 180 gal SPS med bioload tank?

Also, I think I may wait for the XP5000 EXT, any thoughts on this?

Do you think it's overkill? If so, what could be the harm in it?

Also, does anyone know of anyone selling the XP5000 today?
94611

OldNemo
12/27/2009, 09:25 AM
Mojo

I am putting together a 40 breeder SPS dominate tank. I plan on a heavy bioload. My sump is a 20g.

Any better skimmers out there for this size than a OctoXtreme 160?

Thanks.

Trigger01
12/27/2009, 01:18 PM
Hey Mojo,

Thanks for all your help and advice!! You are an awesome resource in this hobby!

Is there much difference between the tunze DOC 9410, vertex in-180 and vertex in-280? The prices for these are similar, by the specs they will all fit in my sump, so which skimmer is the best in your opinion. (I have a 150g, some sps, lps, lots of fish) Thanks again for your help!

ballebrian4u
12/27/2009, 05:35 PM
HEY i judt bought the in 180 and had a ? MOJO how can i know if its the second gen or the first? thanks for the addvice

NyReefNoob
12/27/2009, 07:53 PM
gen 1 bubble plate is alot higher then on gen 2
trigger i have the 180 on my 80g overstock system , id def suggest the 250 for your water volume

tntneon
12/27/2009, 09:35 PM
hi reefers :) ,

I'm in the planning off a new skimmer build :idea:.
I'm gonna make the body from an nalgene lab bottle with a volume of 3l
, the neck piece i'm gonna make from the 2" screw lit on it.
The new idea i have , is to make an up side down bubble plate to make it downdraft and the air/ water mixture is pumped in exentrical.
See details on the attachment.

any regards or tips on this ?

greetingzz tntneon :)

shluffer
12/27/2009, 10:16 PM
temperature and specific gravity should have an impact on the viscosity of the water This should impact the optimal level of the water. Does this have an impact large enough to worry about? I have noticed that my water temp is lower than I want, so I have been slowly increasing it.

rtparty
12/27/2009, 10:50 PM
Mojo,

I have hit quite a bump in the road. I ordered the Octo NW150 that Marine Solutions had for $99 on December 11th. They sent an email saying the skimmer shipped and would arrive the 18th. As of Christmas nothing arrived so I checked FedEx and they never even shipped my order! To say I am ****ed is an under statement! I contacted Rob and he said they are totally out of stock and I would not be able to get that skimmer from them.

He offered me a Bubble Magus NAC6 at no additional charge. I think the skimmers look cheap and I HATE the pump underneath the skimmer. I am really hesitant to trust a chinese knock off of any kind. I have read that you are running one and like it so I can at least trust that.

My tank is gonna be a 40 gallon breeder with a 29g sump and possibly a 15 gallon frag tank tied in. So a total of roughly 60-65 gallons of water. SPS dominate with some LPS here and there. There will be no zoos or leathers of any kind in my new system.

Is the Bubble Magus worth it? Should I be looking elsewhere? I can get skimmers at a wholesale price through my LFS and was thinking of either a Vertex or even a Reef Octopus through another company. At this point I am disappointed at Marine Solutions and would rather avoid them but am willing to take the Bubble Magus at a discounted price if I will be happy in the end.

Sorry for the novel!

raynist
12/28/2009, 08:13 PM
Hey Mojo,

I am the owner of your mojo mini 100. I thnk this is the best skimmer I have owned!!

After observing your skimmer, I think I have found a deficiency on my 2 MSX 250A's. You skimmer has almost no turbulence in the reaction chamber. I thInk this is due to how you made the bubble plate as it is very thick and probably has the right size and number of holes. In looking at my 250A, there is mega turbulence in the reaction chamber. I looked at the bubble plate and it is very thin. I would say 80 of the bubble plate is drilled out. When I look at the area under the bubble plate in your skimmer, there are many bubbles rotating en mass lining up to go through the plate. On the 250A I see no such thing. The bubbles just go right up through the plate. Is this an area I may be able to improve this skimmer with a custom bubble plate?

Thanks
Ray

mojo~
12/28/2009, 08:57 PM
Hey Mojo,

I am the owner of your mojo mini 100. I thnk this is the best skimmer I have owned!!

After observing your skimmer, I think I have found a deficiency on my 2 MSX 250A's. You skimmer has almost no turbulence in the reaction chamber. I thInk this is due to how you made the bubble plate as it is very thick and probably has the right size and number of holes. In looking at my 250A, there is mega turbulence in the reaction chamber. I looked at the bubble plate and it is very thin. I would say 80 of the bubble plate is drilled out. When I look at the area under the bubble plate in your skimmer, there are many bubbles rotating en mass lining up to go through the plate. On the 250A I see no such thing. The bubbles just go right up through the plate. Is this an area I may be able to improve this skimmer with a custom bubble plate?

Thanks
Ray

Yes.
The three skimmers I have built all use my bubble plate. I found this to be the best design. To thin of a plate and its pointless in my opinion. At least for turbulence.

ill get caught up tomorrow. On vacation

tntneon
12/28/2009, 09:08 PM
hey mojo ,
what do you think of a bubble plate that is up-side down ?
making it down draft , to improve contact time ?

greetingzz tntneon :)

mojo~
12/29/2009, 07:59 AM
so what do you perfer vertex 180 or msx 200 or a octupus becse i am going to buy it in the moning and i have no clue and i am realing on you to help me !!!

I prefer the vertex 180 just due to the rotational issues of the stock sicce. I am not a fan of the skimmer overflowing on startup.

mojo~
12/29/2009, 08:01 AM
Hey, Mojo.... just curious. I might go to a 180g in the future. I have a 90g with a 60g sump fuge. now I could turn the 90g into a sump fuge, or keep the one I have.... however, I could use the 90g as a sump and turn the 60g into a full fuge. What would you suggest for a 180g with probably another 100g in a sump and fuge. I think my K2 would be maxed in that setup.

The k2 is good but I dont hink it will move enough water to support 200g.

The ATB 1050A, THe SWC 1a, THe msx 250A THe super reef octo 5000 i think it is, and the Vertex in 280 would all be great choices.

mojo~
12/29/2009, 08:04 AM
Mojo

I am putting together a 40 breeder SPS dominate tank. I plan on a heavy bioload. My sump is a 20g.

Any better skimmers out there for this size than a OctoXtreme 160?

Thanks.

if you already have the 160 then just keep it.
if not the vertex in 100 would be good, the BM NA6/7 and the newer SWC small cone the swc 120. would be good but they wont be out for another couple weeks.

mojo~
12/29/2009, 08:09 AM
Mojo,

I have hit quite a bump in the road. I ordered the Octo NW150 that Marine Solutions had for $99 on December 11th. They sent an email saying the skimmer shipped and would arrive the 18th. As of Christmas nothing arrived so I checked FedEx and they never even shipped my order! To say I am ****ed is an under statement! I contacted Rob and he said they are totally out of stock and I would not be able to get that skimmer from them.

He offered me a Bubble Magus NAC6 at no additional charge. I think the skimmers look cheap and I HATE the pump underneath the skimmer. I am really hesitant to trust a chinese knock off of any kind. I have read that you are running one and like it so I can at least trust that.

My tank is gonna be a 40 gallon breeder with a 29g sump and possibly a 15 gallon frag tank tied in. So a total of roughly 60-65 gallons of water. SPS dominate with some LPS here and there. There will be no zoos or leathers of any kind in my new system.

Is the Bubble Magus worth it? Should I be looking elsewhere? I can get skimmers at a wholesale price through my LFS and was thinking of either a Vertex or even a Reef Octopus through another company. At this point I am disappointed at Marine Solutions and would rather avoid them but am willing to take the Bubble Magus at a discounted price if I will be happy in the end.

Sorry for the novel!

Well the Octo's are from Honya in china as well I believe. lol
But to be honest the NA6 when putting together the bubble plate felta little cheap to me. The rest of the skimmer was ok. The finish is good and the pump is quiet. The skimmer is running well and I can not complain about performance at the pricepoint the skimmer has. I think it would be a good skimmer for you especially at $100.

I would probably go that route. Good luck.

Mojo~

OldNemo
12/29/2009, 09:39 AM
if you already have the 160 then just keep it.
if not the vertex in 100 would be good, the BM NA6/7 and the newer SWC small cone the swc 120. would be good but they wont be out for another couple weeks.

No I have not purchased the Octo 160 yet, but it was at the top of my list as the LFS sells them and raves about them. Is the Vertex quieter even with the newer pinwheel on the 160? Since I am going SPS, I want to make sue I have even skimmer. Space is limited. Plus I like the price of the Vertex better.

have you tested the SWC 120 or 160? My tank will not be set up until February at the earliest. Do you know anything about the pumps? Size wise they look perfect but I want to make sure I get something efficient for a 40 g SPS with heavy bio.

Thanks

ptan
12/29/2009, 09:58 AM
a quick question... im going to setup a 270 gallons display tank with 120 gallons sump tank... it will be sps dominated tank.... will octopus cone skimmer xp-5000 enough? thanks everyone....

tangtang clown
12/29/2009, 11:56 AM
ballebrian, I would recommend getting a skimmer with a bubble blaster pump b/c I think they perform better than the sicce. You can ask charlie davidson how he likes the
bb3000 over the pump that came with his vertex 180.

rgonzalez
12/29/2009, 12:09 PM
Question:

Just purchased a Reef Octopus SWC NW 200 Protein Skimmer. Does anyone know if this piece of equipment works best with a clean or dirty neck? Any experiences?

klm
12/29/2009, 12:10 PM
Need some Mojo -
I asked on a different thread whether it was worth replacing my AquaC Remora on my 90gal tank w/39gal sump - the resounding answer was "dump the remora". Now the question, which skimmer for a budget minded wife for around $200. Comes down to;
Reef Octopus NWB 150
Vertex IN 100 In-Sump - STILL NOT SURE OF THE FOOTPRINT - DIFF. FOR DIFF. SITES
Bubble Magus NAC6
Which do you think will give - more bang for the buck, and be as quite as possible (both very important to my significant other :).

Thanks for the input....

mojo~
12/29/2009, 02:15 PM
for a 90g with a 39g sump well stocked I would go with the vertex in 180. I think the 100 will be a bit small. the na6 might do a little better but you may also check out the grey seas aquatics compact six. Another option as well.
The octo will move more water and cycle more than the others will out of the box.

mojo~
12/29/2009, 02:17 PM
ballebrian, I would recommend getting a skimmer with a bubble blaster pump b/c I think they perform better than the sicce. You can ask charlie davidson how he likes the
bb3000 over the pump that came with his vertex 180.
The bb3000 and the vertex pump on the 180 are totally different. Not a fair comparison. But you will pay more for the bubbleblaster as well.

cykenp
12/29/2009, 02:54 PM
For a 90 gal SPS only w/29 sump, dosing vodka/MB7:

Considering Vertex IN180 but worried about the pump so my other choices are SWC Xtreme 200 (I like the custom pin and impeller), GSA cone skimmer w/Sicce, or Octopus extreme 200. What do you guys think?

rgonzalez
12/29/2009, 03:30 PM
Mojo,

Sorry, meant to ask you if the Reef Octopus SWC NW 200 is going to be enough skimming power for a 90 gallon (30 gallon sump) reef tank with medium bio-load?


Question:

Just purchased a Reef Octopus SWC NW 200 Protein Skimmer. Does anyone know if this piece of equipment works best with a clean or dirty neck? Any experiences?

Names Brucey
12/29/2009, 03:42 PM
Mojo,

What are thoughts on a Reeflo 200 on a 180 with a medium load? Are these good skimmers compared to Super Reef Octopus 5000 or SWC 250A? Thanks.

Johnny C
12/29/2009, 09:26 PM
Wow, you are a busy guy! :lmao:

Do you think the NAC7 is worth the extra $80-100 for a heavy stocked 75G system (vs. the NAC6)? Thanks in advance.

PS- I've heard a few not-so-good things about the Atman pumps, but then again a lot of good in general. Thoughts?

mojo~
12/29/2009, 09:31 PM
For a 90 gal SPS only w/29 sump, dosing vodka/MB7:

Considering Vertex IN180 but worried about the pump so my other choices are SWC Xtreme 200 (I like the custom pin and impeller), GSA cone skimmer w/Sicce, or Octopus extreme 200. What do you guys think?

I would rather use the Vertex over the Stock sicce pump. At least thats my opinion.

mojo~
12/29/2009, 09:32 PM
Mojo,

Sorry, meant to ask you if the Reef Octopus SWC NW 200 is going to be enough skimming power for a 90 gallon (30 gallon sump) reef tank with medium bio-load?

It doesnt pull the air that some newer ones do but makes up for it in the amount of water it processes. Good entry level skimmer for sure.

mojo~
12/29/2009, 09:33 PM
Mojo,

What are thoughts on a Reeflo 200 on a 180 with a medium load? Are these good skimmers compared to Super Reef Octopus 5000 or SWC 250A? Thanks.

The reeflo is a pretty large skimmer. I dont know that you need to go that large. I would probably go with the super reef octo or the msx 250a. both will do great for you

Mojo~

mojo~
12/29/2009, 09:35 PM
Wow, you are a busy guy! :lmao:

Do you think the NAC7 is worth the extra $80-100 for a heavy stocked 75G system (vs. the NAC6)? Thanks in advance.

PS- I've heard a few not-so-good things about the Atman pumps, but then again a lot of good in general. Thoughts?

Yea I was worried about the ATMAN pump as well. So far it is pretty good. Performance wise I think the NA6 would perform as well as the NA7. just my two cents. Some cone bodies are really good at making use of the cone shape. The ATB and K2 are prime examples of this. Some are more turbulent. I like the NA7 ok but I dont know that it is worth the extra $$ or not. I think the NA6 would do fine. I like the NA7

Johnny C
12/29/2009, 09:47 PM
Thanks for the reply, I think the NA6 is gonna be perfect. Post some new pics on your build thread, it's inspiring my build! :D

OldNemo
12/29/2009, 09:51 PM
No I have not purchased the Octo 160 yet, but it was at the top of my list as the LFS sells them and raves about them. Is the Vertex quieter even with the newer pinwheel on the 160? Since I am going SPS, I want to make sue I have even skimmer. Space is limited. Plus I like the price of the Vertex better.

have you tested the SWC 120 or 160? My tank will not be set up until February at the earliest. Do you know anything about the pumps? Size wise they look perfect but I want to make sure I get something efficient for a 40 g SPS with heavy bio.

Thanks

Mojo - Thoughts on my follow up question above? Thanks alot!

cykenp
12/29/2009, 09:52 PM
I would rather use the Vertex over the Stock sicce pump. At least thats my opinion.

Ok thanks alot mojo!!! You are awesome btw!!
I think I will get the Vertex and if something goes wrong with the pump maybe swap it for a sicce pump.

Another question, do you like the SWC pinwheel for the Sicce pump?

tntneon
12/29/2009, 11:07 PM
hey mojo ,
what do you think of a bubble plate that is up-side down ?
making it down draft , to improve contact time ?

greetingzz tntneon :)

any thoughts or regards ?

mojo~
12/30/2009, 08:11 AM
OldNemo,
The swc cones are not out yet but I will be getting the 120 version here really soon. Earlier than the production models. I ll let you know when I find out more.

cykenp
The SWC wheel is good. I prefer the ATB large and the Warner marine Red demon wheel for really pushing the pump. But the swc wheel is a nice balance for that pump.

mojo~
12/30/2009, 08:12 AM
any thoughts or regards ?

I think I would leave it alone. just my 2 cents.

OldNemo
12/30/2009, 09:22 AM
[QUOTE=mojo~;16291601]OldNemo,
The swc cones are not out yet but I will be getting the 120 version here really soon. Earlier than the production models. I ll let you know when I find out more.

QUOTE]

Mojo - Thanks alot! But I am going to go with the Vertex In-100 for my 40 br with 20g sump until any "bugs" are worked out of the SWC cone, if any.

Thanks again!

mojo~
12/30/2009, 10:14 AM
np, its a good bang for buck skimmer. you will like it.

nj_evoIXgsr
12/30/2009, 02:49 PM
mojo since it looks like your the resident skimmer expert. first and foremost, sorry if i ask a stupid question.

i did note that you sold your sump buddy and may have limited experience or did not note this issue.

i have the skimmer body 10inches (stable of water height baffle) the pump, quietone 4000 780gph stays within ~6inches water height, which is in range of the recommended gph. i did note if the water rises in the pump section it will cause the skimmer to run wild and flood my floor (MULTIPLE TIMES). i say about every 3rd day of it working fine. it stops producing in the tower and dumps MASSIVE microbubbles. I noted both water heights being fine. takes about 24+ hours before it starts running properly again. it's confusing the hell out of me. so hopefully you may be able to figure something i can try.

mojo~
12/30/2009, 02:53 PM
The quiet one is not a pressure rated pump really and will change a lot depending on pressure where the pump is sitting ect.. A mag drive, ehiem, or ocean runner would be a better pump to use. The 4000 is rated at 1017 gph I though

nj_evoIXgsr
12/30/2009, 02:55 PM
crap your right. maybe i was thinking of quietone 3000. i will get a hold of a mag 7 since you had yours running properly and see how that turns out.


btw, thanks for the amazingly quick answer! i figured i'd be waiting for a few hours.

jpc763
12/30/2009, 04:42 PM
Hey mojo, great thread!

I couldn't find an answer to this after searching for a half hour...

I have a Gen 1 Vertex In250. My resun pump has been nothing but trouble. I have had the impeller replaced twice and the ceramic shaft one more time. I had the whole body replaced once and now the impeller is frozen again.

Is there a suitable replacememt for it out there?

cykenp
12/30/2009, 06:47 PM
Hey mojo,

wondering what your thoughts are about a Beckett skimmer? I was considering a MRC1 maybe...

killagoby
01/01/2010, 09:32 PM
I've got a 70 gallon tank (100 gallons total) with 6 fish in it and mostly LPS's. I need a skimmer that will work in 13 inches of water with out being raised. So far I have used a Euro-Reef (it would always flood), a Tunze 9010 (the pump went on it in a year), and a Aqua-C Urchin Pro (didn't skim all that well). Please help! Thanks Mojo!

mojo~
01/02/2010, 08:17 AM
Hey mojo, great thread!

I couldn't find an answer to this after searching for a half hour...

I have a Gen 1 Vertex In250. My resun pump has been nothing but trouble. I have had the impeller replaced twice and the ceramic shaft one more time. I had the whole body replaced once and now the impeller is frozen again.

Is there a suitable replacememt for it out there?

Check out the sedra pumps , THe resun is a sedra. What probably happened is the gen 1 pump had the softer shaft and it started to wear our the magnet assembly and the shaft. when this happends it can wear out the inside of th pump. ITs important to replace the shaft and magnet assembly at the same time.
The 250 vertex is kinda a wierd apple. its so tall and has a lot more head pressure. works the pump harder.

mojo~
01/02/2010, 08:20 AM
Hey mojo,

wondering what your thoughts are about a Beckett skimmer? I was considering a MRC1 maybe...

I think beckett skimmers are good choice for large tanks. They will move alot of water. However for smaller tank (200 gallons or less) I would get something with a needlewheel pump

mojo~
01/02/2010, 08:28 AM
Killgoby,

well at 13 inches of water it will be really hard to get any to work without being raised. THe ETSS sumpbuddy 40 can run in deeper water with a mag 7 pump. But I thought the max for it was 11 to 12 inches.
The MSX miniS will run in about 10 inches.
The Tunze would work but sounds like you had a issue with the one u had.
if I think of something more I ll post it but thats just what I have off the top of my head. I think you would better off building a little stand.

killagoby
01/02/2010, 08:36 PM
Killgoby,

well at 13 inches of water it will be really hard to get any to work without being raised. THe ETSS sumpbuddy 40 can run in deeper water with a mag 7 pump. But I thought the max for it was 11 to 12 inches.
The MSX miniS will run in about 10 inches.
The Tunze would work but sounds like you had a issue with the one u had.
if I think of something more I ll post it but thats just what I have off the top of my head. I think you would better off building a little stand.

The ADHI refugium I have recommends ASM's G-1x. What's your thoughts on that?

mojo~
01/02/2010, 09:08 PM
Not bad. Kinda old school design but will work well for your setup. They are a pretty tried and true design.

killagoby
01/02/2010, 09:35 PM
Not bad. Kinda old school design but will work well for your setup. They are a pretty tried and true design.

Would you go with the G-1 or the G-1x? My tank is only 70 gallons and I just have 6 small fish in it. Is the G-1x overkill, or would it work better with the 13" of H2O in my fuge b/c it is taller?

Thanks!
Killa

Johnny C
01/02/2010, 10:28 PM
Would you go with the G-1 or the G-1x? My tank is only 70 gallons and I just have 6 small fish in it. Is the G-1x overkill, or would it work better with the 13" of H2O in my fuge b/c it is taller?

Thanks!
Killa
From personal experience, you should skip the ASM G-Series all together. Although they will perform, I wouldn't expect much. Those who rave about them usually haven't had experience with many other models to compare. For a system like yours I would look into the Octopus NWB-110 or the Bubble Magus NAC6. JMO of course. :)

killagoby
01/02/2010, 10:36 PM
From personal experience, you should skip the ASM G-Series all together. Although they will perform, I wouldn't expect much. Those who rave about them usually haven't had experience with many other models to compare. For a system like yours I would look into the Octopus NWB-110 or the Bubble Magus NAC6. JMO of course. :)

In 13 inches of water?

Johnny C
01/02/2010, 10:54 PM
In 13 inches of water?
No, IMO that's too high for any skimmer. If you've got some scraps laying around, you can very easily make a stand for a skimmer to sit higher by drilling holes in 3'' pieces of PVC and then use zip ties to attach to a piece of eggcrate. Simple, easy and effective. :)

mojo~
01/03/2010, 07:45 AM
I agree, but if he doesnt want to make any stand that leaves his options down to about 1 skimmer that will work maybe two. THe asm g1x and the Octo nw 150,

I would just make a stand and call it good. 90% of the skimmers out there run between 6 and 10 inches. there ar those who run around 6 to 7 and those that run from 8 to 10 better. But 13 is really just to deep for most.

Volcano1
01/03/2010, 10:27 AM
Seeing your giving depth recommendations. :)
How about an ATB 18" internal?

cykenp
01/03/2010, 11:16 AM
I think beckett skimmers are good choice for large tanks. They will move alot of water. However for smaller tank (200 gallons or less) I would get something with a needlewheel pump

Hmm ok. Thanks mojo!! I guess I'm still stuck between a vertex In180 or the SWC 200 w/ their needlewheel. I'm just so turned off by the resun pump since I have a friend who got a vertex IN100 gen 2 and his pump wore out in about 6 months. Luckily he had an extra sicce around though.

Do you think the vertex design is still worth getting despite the inferior pump and needing to upgrade soon? Which one of those 2 models have a bigger mixing chamber btw?

cykenp
01/03/2010, 11:17 AM
And oh...forgot, one more question, what optimum water level do those 2 skimmers run at?

FranktheTankTx
01/03/2010, 03:08 PM
Can the MSX, SWC or Octo Xtreme skimmers be taken apart for cleaning inside the housing?

killagoby
01/03/2010, 03:17 PM
Mojo,

What's your thought on the Bubble Master NAC6, MRC Ocean Force 100, or the Vertex IN-100? I think I need to build a stand.

Thanks!

raynist
01/03/2010, 03:51 PM
Can the MSX, SWC or Octo Xtreme skimmers be taken apart for cleaning inside the housing?



The bubble plate comes off if that is what you mean.

mojo~
01/03/2010, 04:11 PM
Mojo,

What's your thought on the Bubble Master NAC6, MRC Ocean Force 100, or the Vertex IN-100? I think I need to build a stand.

Thanks!
al three are nice units.

FranktheTankTx
01/03/2010, 04:38 PM
The bubble plate comes off if that is what you mean.
I guess I don't know how to ask my question any clearer... but I'll try, can you access the inside of the skimmer for cleaning?

In a way you may have answered my question. I'm assuming if you can get to the bubble plate, then you must be able to access the inside to clean out every few months. I like clean equipment.

gravity316
01/03/2010, 05:51 PM
Great thread Mojo

Wanted to get your thoughts on a skimmer.
I am in the process of setting up a 90 tank with a 20 gallon sump, plan on light to medium bio load.
I have a D&D Marine Typhoon I would like to replace.
I need an external skimmer because I do not have the room in my sump.
Looking at a Octopus Recirc 150.
Any thoughts?

killagoby
01/03/2010, 07:46 PM
How deep can you run the AE Reef Devil?

killagoby
01/03/2010, 09:24 PM
One more. What kind of pump is on the Octo NWB-100?

killagoby
01/03/2010, 10:35 PM
I ended up getting this: http://www.myreefcreations.com/OF-100, with a skimmer stand to raise it up 4 to 5 inches.

rroselavy
01/03/2010, 11:26 PM
I ended up getting this: http://www.myreefcreations.com/OF-100, with a skimmer stand to raise it up 4 to 5 inches.

Please let us know how it performs for you. I do not see very much feedblack on this skimmer so I'd love to know.

Doahh
01/04/2010, 12:04 AM
90 gallon tank heavy stocked with soon to be SPS. ATB 840 V1.5. Should I use the small or large pinwheel?

mojo~
01/04/2010, 08:53 AM
I like the small wheel on the 840 for that load. nice constant production. I think you will see the same.

FranktheTankTx
01/04/2010, 10:44 AM
Well, my question never officially was answered. Skimmer Q&A doesn't live up to T5 Q&A thread.

raynist
01/04/2010, 10:56 AM
I guess I don't know how to ask my question any clearer... but I'll try, can you access the inside of the skimmer for cleaning?

In a way you may have answered my question. I'm assuming if you can get to the bubble plate, then you must be able to access the inside to clean out every few months. I like clean equipment.



Depending in the skimmer you can easily stick you hand in there to clean it. I know in the 200/250/300 this is possible.

bruster9000
01/04/2010, 12:37 PM
why is it when i feed my fish my skimmer stops skimming and then has to build back up?

Doahh
01/04/2010, 01:02 PM
I like the small wheel on the 840 for that load. nice constant production. I think you will see the same.

Thanks!

rgonzalez
01/04/2010, 01:36 PM
So I purchased a Reef Octopus (SWC NW 200) from a friend, but he doesn't have the manual.

The only thing I cannot figure out is the air tubing. The airline goes from a PVC piece (attached to the intake of the Octo pump) into one of two male holes attached to an enclosed black "thing." Does anyone know what to do?

cet98
01/04/2010, 02:04 PM
So I purchased a Reef Octopus (SWC NW 200) from a friend, but he doesn't have the manual.

The only thing I cannot figure out is the air tubing. The airline goes from a PVC piece (attached to the intake of the Octo pump) into one of two male holes attached to an enclosed black "thing." Does anyone know what to do?

sounds like the black "thing" is your silencer...attach the airline hose to it and it will "silence" the noise you would ordinarily here when the air is being sucked into the airline tubing... try it with and without and you'll see what I mean ;)

HTH :)

cet98
01/04/2010, 02:11 PM
here's a visual... :)

rgonzalez
01/04/2010, 03:14 PM
Ahhh!! I haven't turned it on yet, so that makes sense. I figured it was like the tubing on the ER skimmers - where you can adjust the air valve.

Thanks!

sounds like the black "thing" is your silencer...attach the airline hose to it and it will "silence" the noise you would ordinarily here when the air is being sucked into the airline tubing... try it with and without and you'll see what I mean ;)

HTH :)

tangtang clown
01/04/2010, 03:46 PM
I guess I don't know how to ask my question any clearer... but I'll try, can you access the inside of the skimmer for cleaning?

In a way you may have answered my question. I'm assuming if you can get to the bubble plate, then you must be able to access the inside to clean out every few months. I like clean equipment.

This question has been answered many times in it's appropriate thread/threads. Here's a hint: Do a search for Octo Extreme, MSX, or SWC skimmer threads. Or you can PM a skimmer owner. I have an Octo X 200.
:frog:

rgonzalez
01/04/2010, 04:13 PM
Where should the waterline go for this Octopus?

here's a visual... :)

mojo~
01/04/2010, 06:02 PM
Well, my question never officially was answered. Skimmer Q&A doesn't live up to T5 Q&A thread.

lol, I think i left it un answered because it is available in other threads.

The bubble plate comes out. Not sure how much more in depth one can be. Well one unsatified person out of a couple thousand isnt bad. Not to mention this is all done for free....

FranktheTankTx
01/04/2010, 07:09 PM
Depending in the skimmer you can easily stick you hand in there to clean it. I know in the 200/250/300 this is possible.
Thank you for clarification. I appreciate your help! This is what I was looking for.

This question has been answered many times in it's appropriate thread/threads. Here's a hint: Do a search for Octo Extreme, MSX, or SWC skimmer threads. Or you can PM a skimmer owner. I have an Octo X 200.
:frog:
Sorry, I thought I could just post in the Skimmer Q&A thread & get an answer. What was I thinking?

lol, I think i left it un answered because it is available in other threads.

The bubble plate comes out. Not sure how much more in depth one can be. Well one unsatified person out of a couple thousand isnt bad. Not to mention this is all done for free....
Hey Buddy, I'm posting in your thread trying to get some help. I didn't mean to be redundant... I guess we could shut 95% of this forum down if you want to subscribe to the theory that a question has already been answered. Thanks for your help! :mad:

mojo~
01/04/2010, 10:31 PM
sorry, i just thought that your questions was already answered. And its a RC thread. I just answer most of the questions is all. I answer them on here, and a couple other sites. Plus I give my Cell # to people and talk to them on the phone too. I am here to help. Sorry you didnt feel I was doing a good job. I will try to step up my game a little bit. Sorry Family issues and trying to get custody of my kids has taken my attention from this. Again sorry frank but they come before your skimmer question. Again I ll try to do better than I already do.

Oy

PowermanKW
01/04/2010, 10:50 PM
Perhaps you could go over to the T5 Q&A thread Mojo and see what they are doing right. Perhaps you could get some sort of idea of where you went wrong.:thumbsup:

FranktheTankTx
01/04/2010, 10:54 PM
WEll Grim has done such a good job on the T5 forum and I see so many skimmer questions. Why not start this forum. I get pms and emails quite often so why not put it all in one place for everyone. We will see how it works. There are a lot of people here that have had a good amount of knowledge on skimmers. So if I dont know the answer, someone else might know. So post you questions here and we will see how it goes.
Mojo~
This is your thread, you started it & I might add - a good idea. I was simply trying to get some help on a question that related to the topic of the thread.

sorry, i just thought that your questions was already answered. And its a RC thread. I just answer most of the questions is all. I answer them on here, and a couple other sites. Plus I give my Cell # to people and talk to them on the phone too. I am here to help. Sorry you didnt feel I was doing a good job. I will try to step up my game a little bit. Sorry Family issues and trying to get custody of my kids has taken my attention from this. Again sorry frank but they come before your skimmer question. Again I ll try to do better than I already do.

Oy
I'm sorry to hear about your family problems. I've been thru that in the past & I'm going thru a divorce in the present. I don't wish that upon anyone in the world & I hope everyone involved can think about the kids & work it out. I'll be thinking about you.

Perhaps you could go over to the T5 Q&A thread Mojo and see what they are doing right. Perhaps you could get some sort of idea of where you went wrong.:thumbsup:
No need to pile on & make things worse. Let's move on & keep the thread on topic. Many more will need help & answers.

Canarygirl
01/04/2010, 10:54 PM
I have a skimmer maintenance question. I have a BubbleKing with the Red Dragon 2000 lph pump. It used to be silent but now the pump is making a noise and the noise is emanating from the silicone venturi tube (between venturi and air silencer). It looks like the hose is sucking some water into it along with the air and its making a crunchy, rhythmic sound. I've taken the hose off and put it back on, no difference. I also ran the pump in a vinegar water solution for a while last weekend. I'm not sure if I started hearing the noise before or after this mini-maintenance. But now the skimmer is rocking a bit on its little rubber feet so I know something is not quite right.

What should I do?

killagoby
01/05/2010, 11:36 AM
Please let us know how it performs for you. I do not see very much feedblack on this skimmer so I'd love to know.

I will. From what I understand they are brand new for MRC. I spoke to them yesterday. The only thing I do not like is the no-name Chinese pump. Otherwise the build looks good. NW pump, gate valve for adjustment. Small footprint which I need in my refugium.

mojo~
01/05/2010, 11:58 AM
I have a skimmer maintenance question. I have a BubbleKing with the Red Dragon 2000 lph pump. It used to be silent but now the pump is making a noise and the noise is emanating from the silicone venturi tube (between venturi and air silencer). It looks like the hose is sucking some water into it along with the air and its making a crunchy, rhythmic sound. I've taken the hose off and put it back on, no difference. I also ran the pump in a vinegar water solution for a while last weekend. I'm not sure if I started hearing the noise before or after this mini-maintenance. But now the skimmer is rocking a bit on its little rubber feet so I know something is not quite right.

What should I do?

there may still be some calcium in the bearing assembly. great pumps but they do need to be cleaned out every so often. You are on the right track. If you dont get it Send Jeremy from premium aquatics a pm. He may know. He is a little more familiar with the askol pumps maintenance. Souns lik a shaft or bearing.

killagoby
01/05/2010, 05:43 PM
So I purchased a Reef Octopus (SWC NW 200) from a friend, but he doesn't have the manual.

The only thing I cannot figure out is the air tubing. The airline goes from a PVC piece (attached to the intake of the Octo pump) into one of two male holes attached to an enclosed black "thing." Does anyone know what to do?

Try this http://coralvue.com/pdfs/NW200B%20Instructions.pdf

NyReefNoob
01/05/2010, 07:50 PM
;) mojo it's all your fault for starting the thread to try and help people, you ought to be ashamed of yourself for going to work, dealing with family and not being able to answer everyone's question's, lol you must have forgot people dont want to read all 50 pages to find an answer, they just want an answer. btw have you ever ran a dax ex 1 ?

gravity316
01/05/2010, 08:07 PM
Mojo,
Wanted to get your opinion.
I have a D&D Typhoon which I am looking to replace.
I do not have much room in my sump so an external skimmer owuld be best.
I was looking at the Octopus recirc units.
Any thoughts on their performance/reliability for a 90 gallon tank?

My Typhoon over flowed my skimmate bucket when the power was off while doing a water change, do other external skimmers run this possibilty?

Thanks for the help!

Tfunk
01/05/2010, 10:38 PM
any reviews on the aqua-medic turbofloater 5000 shorty?

http://www.aqua-medic.com/turboflotor_5000_shorty.shtml

mojo~
01/06/2010, 08:11 AM
myreefnoob, I have had the das ex1. I thought it skimmed ok. But the build was really cheap. I could squeeze the cylinder body of the skimmer and it would flex easily. Just not what I would expect from DAS. but the aquabee pump seemed to work ok. pulled about 400 lph of air.

mojo~
01/06/2010, 08:15 AM
Mojo,
Wanted to get your opinion.
I have a D&D Typhoon which I am looking to replace.
I do not have much room in my sump so an external skimmer owuld be best.
I was looking at the Octopus recirc units.
Any thoughts on their performance/reliability for a 90 gallon tank?

My Typhoon over flowed my skimmate bucket when the power was off while doing a water change, do other external skimmers run this possibilty?

Thanks for the help!

For external on your 90 check out the Warner marine rx 150, the octo cone external or even just the octo nwb 150 if you are trying to save some $$

you should just shut your skimmer off when doing a water change. depending on how its plumbed in and if you are using a feed pump ect. its hard tosay if it will do it with another skimmer

mojo~
01/06/2010, 08:19 AM
any reviews on the aqua-medic turbofloater 5000 shorty?

http://www.aqua-medic.com/turboflotor_5000_shorty.shtml

I have not ran one on my tank. But I have played around with one. Big pump moves a good amount of water. Cheap feel to the skimmer and I would only use it if I couldnt fit anything else in there.

Markbb
01/06/2010, 04:42 PM
Thanks to the unbelievably useful thread, and especially Mojo's never ending wealth of information I have decided to try the Vertex IN-180 skimmer for a new 90 gal reef that I am setting up.
One quick question, I see some dealers listing this as the Vertex IN-180 and a couple list it as the Vertex IN-180 generation II.

Is it safe to assume that everyone is selling the gen 2. I would hate to get some leftover stock of a previous model.

Thanks,
Mark

More questions to come... as I upgrade from my 55 to a 90

gravity316
01/06/2010, 06:59 PM
Thanks for the info Mojo.
I had the skimmer pump off.
Before I turned it off the water level was actually kind of low.
When I notice it overflowing it was sucking in through the air venturi.
The return line in submerged, do no tknow if this was a problem?

mojo~
01/06/2010, 10:37 PM
Thanks to the unbelievably useful thread, and especially Mojo's never ending wealth of information I have decided to try the Vertex IN-180 skimmer for a new 90 gal reef that I am setting up.
One quick question, I see some dealers listing this as the Vertex IN-180 and a couple list it as the Vertex IN-180 generation II.

Is it safe to assume that everyone is selling the gen 2. I would hate to get some leftover stock of a previous model.

Thanks,
Mark

More questions to come... as I upgrade from my 55 to a 90
they should all be gen 2 by now Premium Aquatics has gen 2's for sure.

mojo~
01/06/2010, 10:38 PM
Thanks for the info Mojo.
I had the skimmer pump off.
Before I turned it off the water level was actually kind of low.
When I notice it overflowing it was sucking in through the air venturi.
The return line in submerged, do no tknow if this was a problem?

sounds like you had a back siphon.

mojo~
01/07/2010, 11:17 AM
lots of snow here today eeks. Need to get a skimmer that can suck it all up and turn it into saltwater.

Markbb
01/07/2010, 02:34 PM
Question on the Vertex IN-180. It shows a height of 24", my internal stand height is 26". Is this going to be enough room for routine maintenance and cleaning to get it in and out.

Thanks,
Mark

mojo~
01/07/2010, 08:20 PM
yeap Its only about a half inch to three quaters get the cup off.

mitsurs01
01/07/2010, 08:58 PM
what is the best skimmer with an internal pump? I have a very limited area to put one in my 45gal sump for my 125gal DT. I saw the Marineland 300 and posted about it, but haven't got a response yet.

mojo~
01/07/2010, 11:06 PM
bubble king mini 180 for your tank would be perfect.

mojo~
01/07/2010, 11:07 PM
I would not suggest the marineland skimmer to anyone.... it works. but not good for the money.

If the bk mini is out of reach there is a super reef octo that would work but it has a 10 in body. So its not really small. The bubble king is the way to go. Otherwise on the small side you could go with a msx 160.

serum153
01/08/2010, 12:20 AM
Hey Mojo! Thanks for taking the time to respond to this thread you created. I recently purchased a vertex in180 that I am going to be running on my 75 with 40 breeder sump. The skimmer compartment is going to be 12L x 17.5D x 11H. What water level have you found to be optimum for this skimmer?

I hope this is going to be like night and day as I am upgrading my skimmer from a hob remora pro to this vertex. Is there going to be a lot of tweaking to get it to skim properly or is it pretty solid out of the box?

mojo~
01/08/2010, 10:46 AM
I would run around 7 to 8 inches. I ran mine about 7.5.

The skimmer will be night and day from your remora.
when you start the skimmer simply take it out of the box, plug it in and let it run wide open overnight. the next day start to raise the water level. once set you should not have to adjust it again.

chefmike
01/08/2010, 12:01 PM
Anyone familiar with this skimmer?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280447950085&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:VRI

cet98
01/08/2010, 02:16 PM
Anyone familiar with this skimmer?

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1438511&page=32
scroll down 2/3 of the page...sammy113 posted about his if your interested :)

chefmike
01/08/2010, 02:38 PM
Thanks for the link...great stuff and it looks like a pretty good skimmer, esp considering the price

killagoby
01/08/2010, 02:48 PM
I got my MRC Ocean Force 100 last night. I raised it about 5 to 6 inches in my sump. With my sump level at 13" it is now at the perfect height (thanks Mojo). The build quality is great. Built very solid. It is very compact and simple in design. It has been producing a great head of foam so far, but no skimmate as of yet. The only issue I have is with the return pipe being under water and a "gurgling" sound b/c of backpressure. I drilled 12 holes in the return pipe, and will cut the pipe tonight to fix that issue. Other than that so far, so good. Thanks MRC!

mojo~
01/08/2010, 06:23 PM
Gald you like it. MRC makes grat quality products for sure.

mojo~
01/08/2010, 06:26 PM
Anyone familiar with this skimmer?


I am running one on my 57g right now. Seems to be doing ok really. No complaints. If I could improve one thing it would be how the neck of the cup sits inside the the neck of the body. it has a little step there. Other than that its a inexpensive skimmer. Works well but not as solid as some of the higher priced models.

unkownvirus
01/10/2010, 02:32 AM
i currently have a D&D typhoon stock that puts out nothing but soda fizz, it has bin running for about 2 weeks no change. do you no any good pumps i can use to replace the stock pump?