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stan zemanek
04/01/2009, 05:37 PM
$4,777 and it would be 96Lx22Dx18H with a starphire front (at no extra charge) and had an external off the back overflow on it with 2 - 1 1/2 holes drilled in the box, would you buy it?

elegance coral
04/01/2009, 05:45 PM
NO.

stan zemanek
04/01/2009, 05:47 PM
LOL that didn't take long

elegance coral
04/01/2009, 05:56 PM
LOL. IMHO it's to long and skinny. It may be okay for a FO tank, but I wouldn't like a reef in it. I can get a RR 5'x3'xI think its 2' for about a grand. That's with low lead front glass. I think that would make a much nicer reef tank at a much lower cost.

snorvich
04/01/2009, 05:58 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14741701#post14741701 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by elegance lawn gnome
LOL. IMHO it's to long and skinny. It may be okay for a FO tank, but I wouldn't like a reef in it. I can get a RR 5'x3'xI think its 2' for about a grand. That's with low lead front glass. I think that would make a much nicer reef tank at a much lower cost.

The dimensions are not usable. Front to back should be 30", top to bottom should be at least 24 inches, preferably 27 inches. In any case, I would go with acrylic.

stan zemanek
04/01/2009, 06:00 PM
this will be an in-wall tank and because of space I am some what restricted. I do however like the shallow look, and cost savings as far a lighting goes. This will be an all softie tank so I think t5's will do the trick. I thought the price was a little (cough) alot steep!!!!!!!

stan zemanek
04/01/2009, 06:02 PM
It would be intresting to know just how many man hours go into the construction of a tank this size.

stan zemanek
04/01/2009, 06:05 PM
Please , no offense but, I don't really want to debate the size of the tank. thats like me telling you what color car to buy. its just the limitations and the style that I like dictating the size.
Having never bought a custom tank before I was just trying to get a feel as to wether this was a fair price or not.

elegance coral
04/01/2009, 06:09 PM
I agree. That price does seem mighty high.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14741715#post14741715 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by snorvich
The dimensions are not usable. Front to back should be 30", top to bottom should be at least 24 inches, preferably 27 inches. In any case, I would go with acrylic.

I'm confused:confused: How are those dimensions not usable?
Front to back is 36" or 3'. Side to side is 60" or 5'. Top to bottom is 24" or 2'. I'm not sure on the top to bottom. I know it was around 2'. They call it a 300gl.

elegance coral
04/01/2009, 06:14 PM
Check out this tank.
http://www.glasscages.com/?sAction=OrderForm&sProdID=AQ_240Long

stan zemanek
04/01/2009, 06:29 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14741822#post14741822 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by elegance lawn gnome
Check out this tank.
http://www.glasscages.com/?sAction=OrderForm&sProdID=AQ_240Long
Wow seems that I am being somewhat fleeced. lets just for arguments sake say both are equal in constructing a high end aquarium (polished edges etc. etc). If you use the Glass Cages calculator hey are still over 2500 cheaper!
I am not going to give the name of the company that I got the quote from because I feel it would not be fair to them since they are not here to defend themselves.

luther1200
04/01/2009, 06:35 PM
Is that just the tank, or does it include stand and sump?

elegance coral
04/01/2009, 06:36 PM
Just an FYI. I can't speak of the quality of the glass cages tanks. I've never bought one. What ever manufacturer you go with, you may want to ask around about their reputation.

elegance coral
04/01/2009, 06:37 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14741982#post14741982 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by luther1200
Is that just the tank, or does it include stand and Christmas Tree stand?

:lol: :lol: :rollface: :lol:

jbird69
04/01/2009, 06:48 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14741787#post14741787 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by elegance lawn gnome
I agree. That price does seem mighty high.



I'm confused:confused: How are those dimensions not usable?
Front to back is 36" or 3'. Side to side is 60" or 5'. Top to bottom is 24" or 2'. I'm not sure on the top to bottom. I know it was around 2'. They call it a 300gl.

I think Steve was referring to the original post. He quoted you cause he agrees. Just my $.02

elegance coral
04/01/2009, 07:11 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14742081#post14742081 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jbird69
I think Steve was referring to the original post. He quoted you cause he agrees. Just my $.02

OWWWW! Maybe you're right.

ReefEnabler
04/01/2009, 07:34 PM
I think Jbird69 was right... at least that's how I interpreted it upon first read...

stan zemanek,

is the builder of your tank by any chance Coast to Coast Aquariums or Aquarium Care Pro? You can PM me if it is if you'd rather not go into it here...

elegance coral
04/01/2009, 07:56 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14742412#post14742412 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ReefEnabler
I think Jbird69 was right... at least that's how I interpreted it upon first read...

Well crap! I guess I'm just a little slow sometimes. Maybe they should have left my username as elegance yard pnome.:wildone:
Sorry Steve.

tkeracer619
04/01/2009, 08:10 PM
nope

stan zemanek
04/01/2009, 08:14 PM
just to clear things up a bit that quote was for tank and glass canopy, no stand . It did not unclude shipping. It did however include a 7% sales tax and a 5% club discount

widmer
04/01/2009, 08:56 PM
No one will tell you that glasscages makes high-end tanks. But at the same time, when people tell you that they are poor quality, as someone who owns one I would have to disagree. The finish on them isn't perfect, but it's something you'd never observe if you weren't specifically searching for craftsmanship flaws. Overall, they are a great deal and I would not hesitate recommending you buy one.

Mouse
04/01/2009, 10:21 PM
I wouldn't say those dimensions are "unusable". Tough to work with, hard to aqua scape, etc fits better.
You can make it work if its your only option. You said its to be an in wall tank? Do you have the option of more space behind it?
I ask because an in wall is a good size project and fairly permanent :D . Hate to see ya look back and have regrets.

suasponte2/75
04/01/2009, 10:43 PM
I would agree that it is a little (LOT) steep of a price. I got my custom 180G made with 1/2" acrylic on 5 sides, 3/4" top (to accomodate the largest opening possible) with custom overflow (made to my specs) for a little over $900 a few years ago with oil prices near sky high. My whole set-up (canopy, stand, deltec skimmer, lights and tunze streams w/ controller) didn't cost that much! Considering we're in a different economy you should be getting way more or at least top notch stuff at that price including the tank, having them deliver and set it up!!

Jova
04/01/2009, 11:07 PM
Price seems absolutely ridiculous to me. I'd look elsewhere.

stan zemanek
04/02/2009, 07:12 AM
Hey thanx goes out to all you guys who have responded especially ReeffEnabler. As far as the concerns for the size of the tank, I want to stay shallow as I like the overall look of a shallow tank. Also with what i think is coming down the road in the next year or so with inflation, cap and trade, and the increased price of energy, I think t5's on a shallow tank will be the way to go. I do however have room to expand the depth of the tank to a max. of 24 inches but thats it.
Getting back to the price quote....doesn't it seem a bit odd for a tank manufacturer to offer a free upgrade to a starphire glass "while supplies last" on thr front panel. According to the quote thats a $375 savings for the starphire upgrade. furthermore they gave me 5% off for being a local club member. So if i am doing my math correctly this tank should cost 5,375:eek1:

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04/02/2009, 08:00 AM
yeah thats a totally rediculous price,

last custom 96x24x30 in tank i bought i had made locally for $660. thats not starphire glass, but did include overflows.

it was out of ft. lauerdale (CRS Aquariums i think).

Chris

ReefEnabler
04/02/2009, 08:26 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14745074#post14745074 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by stan zemanek
doesn't it seem a bit odd for a tank manufacturer to offer a free upgrade to a starphire glass "while supplies last" on thr front panel. According to the quote thats a $375 savings for the starphire upgrade. furthermore they gave me 5% off for being a local club member. So if i am doing my math correctly this tank should cost 5,375:eek1:


"free" offers like that are how these companies make their money. sounds good, and almost convinces you that even though their prices are high, at least you're getting this one big break so maybe overall the price is not that bad....


of course its easy for them to swallow this cost when the profit margin on the tank is probably well over 100% (just a guess but looks about right).

If I was ever going to pay top dollar for a tank again, it would be an AGE with routed PVC bottom. still arguably pricey but you're getting a unique contruction and excellent quality. CTC will most likely be decent quality but nothing special.

EleganceMan
04/02/2009, 09:04 AM
yeah sounds like a great deal.....starphire glass upgrade for free....wow....you better jump on that....LOL
lets make a deal .....you give me your money....i will kick you in the balls and we can call it a deal.....LOL

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04/02/2009, 09:16 AM
if you give me a check for $5K i will order, deliver and set the tank up for you.

BTW, if you need a stand its gonna be another $5K:D

Chris

screwsloose
04/02/2009, 09:38 AM
just for a quick comparison i am getting my 130x36x34 made for 4700 with two external overflows with 4 durso standpipes and 13 schedule 80 bulk heads. the price you qouted seems alittle steep for that size tank to me.

stan zemanek
04/02/2009, 01:55 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14745850#post14745850 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by screwsloose
just for a quick comparison i am getting my 130x36x34 made for 4700 with two external overflows with 4 durso standpipes and 13 schedule 80 bulk heads. the price you qouted seems alittle steep for that size tank to me.
And who may I ask is building your tank?

screwsloose
04/02/2009, 02:39 PM
aquarium obsessed

snorvich
04/02/2009, 03:06 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14742575#post14742575 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by elegance coral
Well crap! I guess I'm just a little slow sometimes. Maybe they should have left my username as elegance yard pnome.:wildone:
Sorry Steve.

No problem. :D I was just agreeing and expressing preferences from my experiences trying to aquascape short skinny long tanks.

snorvich
04/02/2009, 03:07 PM
Aquarium Obsessed sells very high quality tanks at a reasonable (but not cheap) price.

Discustopia
04/02/2009, 09:11 PM
My Starphire tank is 109" x 22" x 24" so - very close to your dimensions.
I paid.................$680...........used..........partially dismantled.

So far the depth has not given me much of an issue, it's still better than any 18" deep tank.
There is some optical compression at shallow angles, but you get used to it.
I have it 2" away from the wall without a painted back and the only holes are in the bottom.

If that's the space you have then go for it

I was told it should have been $2250 new in 1/2" with eurobracing - so yes it's expensive

bj32482
04/02/2009, 09:52 PM
do some homework on Glass Cages before you give them any money...I have a cracked 240g in my garage from them