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kjhnstn
05/08/2009, 04:17 PM
Can I make an over the back closed loop? Something like a canister filter but with the pump replacing the canister.

Keith

james3370
05/08/2009, 05:25 PM
doing one on my build. check the build thread. (1) input tube beside the overflow box & returns are over the top to the 4 corners of the tank w/ loc-line

OkR33Fer
05/08/2009, 05:26 PM
Absolutely, you just need to make sure the pump you use is self priming.

james3370
05/08/2009, 05:31 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14977509#post14977509 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by OkR33Fer
Absolutely, you just need to make sure the pump you use is self priming.

i added a filling port to the suction line of mine :) you can see it on the pipe that runs at a 45 degree angle (clickable thumbnail pic below)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/james3370/tank/29%20build/th_CIMG1816.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/james3370/tank/29%20build/CIMG1816.jpg)

stugray
05/08/2009, 05:44 PM
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/60772125_CL_back.jpg

More pics in gallery.

Stu

kjhnstn
05/08/2009, 05:56 PM
Thanks Guys. I didn't think it would be a problem but being new I wasn't sure.
James, I was planning a fill port as well.
I'm thinking 1" suction to blue line 70 pump, then 1" return to a manifold system on the tank bottom.

kjhnstn
05/08/2009, 06:06 PM
Oh, I forgot to ask, when figuring out head pressure loss on a manifold system would I need to add all elbows,tees, and nozzles on the manifold itself?

james3370
05/09/2009, 12:22 AM
if it is the closed loop pump, i think i read that there is no head pressure since it is a "closed" system, there is no pressure differential between the intake & exhaust sides of the pump....but don't hold me to that LOL

sailoracu2
05/09/2009, 08:44 PM
Melevsreef has step by step instructions. http://www.melevsreef.com/closedloop.html

das75
05/09/2009, 09:03 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14979440#post14979440 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by james3370
if it is the closed loop pump, i think i read that there is no head pressure since it is a "closed" system, there is no pressure differential between the intake & exhaust sides of the pump....but don't hold me to that LOL
no head loss on a CL but there's still pipe and fitting losses

therealfatman
05/10/2009, 12:26 AM
Yep, just friction losses from pipe, fittings, valves etc. No static head losses. Theoretically.