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Caetano_Thiago
05/22/2009, 01:43 AM
so i purchased him today around 4pm. got home, let him sit in bag in tank for 15-20min to acclimate. then slowly would put in a lil bit of my water into the big, did this for about one hr. put him in the tank soon after. when i left he was hanging out by a room, and didnt really move much the whole time. I then went to the movies and only came back home 7hrs later, my wife told me that she saw him moving around in the cave, @ 9ish. but when i came home, he was laying on his back, feet up in the air and didnt move. i took him out and put him a cup w/ water from my DT and still no movement. How on earth did this happen?:mad2:

Caetano_Thiago
05/22/2009, 02:12 AM
i think hes dead. nah im pretty positive that he is dead, well thats 20bucks down the toilet

xxwake4lifexx
05/22/2009, 03:27 AM
You'd have to let us know all your water parameters. Was this tank already fully cycled? Is it an established tank? It would be helpful to know your ammonia, nitrate, nitrite, pH, temp, etc.

What's your salinity also? I think shrimp specifically don't do too well with large salinity changes. Yours could vary largely from that of your LFS. :thumbsup:

Anemone0524
05/22/2009, 10:49 AM
you will have to do a full autopsy to discover cause of death.


but probably salinity variance - shrimp are sensitive.

Fizz71
05/22/2009, 10:57 AM
I overkill shrimp acclimation (snails too)...they can be real sensitive to salinty like others mentioned. I think I took about 2 hours for my cleaner, about 1 1/2 for my fire shrimp. A little water every 15 minutes. But I also bought my shrimp from systems running corals so I know their salinities were close to mine to begin with.

torr55555
05/22/2009, 11:13 AM
:mad:

xxwake4lifexx
05/22/2009, 12:34 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15058293#post15058293 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by torr55555
:mad:

:mad2:

malawinovice
05/22/2009, 01:37 PM
buy a drip acclimation kit, or use an air tube line with value to drip in.

ps I kill my shrimp with a water change and temp being a few degrees different.

Caetano_Thiago
05/22/2009, 05:00 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15059072#post15059072 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by malawinovice
buy a drip acclimation kit, or use an air tube line with value to drip in.

ps I kill my shrimp with a water change and temp being a few degrees different.
that sounds like a good idea, yah i did another test this morning
SL is @ 1.026
ammonia @ 0
nitrate @ 0
nitrite @ 0
PH @ 8.0 -7.8

but the drip acclimation kit seems easier.

snorvich
05/22/2009, 05:20 PM
What are you testing Specific gravity with?

jmjohnson
05/22/2009, 05:57 PM
5 gallon bucket plus 8 ft airline hose = $3.50 drip acclimation system. I have been doing this for years and with all my fish and havent lost any within the first two months of having them. Maybe i was just lucky.

Caetano_Thiago
05/22/2009, 11:14 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15060093#post15060093 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by snorvich
What are you testing Specific gravity with?

instant ocean hydrometer.

Caetano_Thiago
05/22/2009, 11:17 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15060236#post15060236 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jmjohnson
5 gallon bucket plus 8 ft airline hose = $3.50 drip acclimation system. I have been doing this for years and with all my fish and havent lost any within the first two months of having them. Maybe i was just lucky.
that sounds like my next step. thx :)

Caetano_Thiago
05/22/2009, 11:22 PM
now i know a cleaner shrimp isnt to much money considering, the thousands that many people have lost in this hobby. but its just kinda sad when you lose anything in your tank, big or small. but thanks everyone for the help. :)

swpassion
05/23/2009, 12:06 AM
I would loose the hydrometer and get a refractomenter, they are MUCH more acurate. A hydrometer can be fairly close when kept PERFECTLY clean, but even then they are not as accurate and with shrimp or other salinity sensitive creature you want as accurate as possible.

snorvich
05/23/2009, 07:50 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15061887#post15061887 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Caetano_Thiago
instant ocean hydrometer.

I STRONGLY recommend getting a refractometer and calibration fluid. Hydrometers don't really measure up (I could not resist).

:D :spin1:

wismie
05/23/2009, 11:48 AM
In my own personal experience, acclimation is something that takes a looooong time in saltwater (compared to freshwater for instance) ... and I used to have Discus in freshwater, which are already quite sensitive.

If you don't have a drip, use a syringe in which you put every five minutes or so some aquarium water into the bag/acclimation bucket. I easily spend two to three hours acclimating anything (snails, shrimps, fishes, even corals), provided the water parameters are ok of course.

I used to lose some of my livestock because I went too fast. As soon as I started to take my time, I kept all my new additions.

And yes, shrimps and snails can be quite sensitive to salinity changes.