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A1ramsey
05/28/2009, 01:23 PM
i just got some true blues from a lfs and they werent on a rock or anything, there are three heads and i want to know what type of glue to use?? would super glue work?? thanks for any and all help..

Skeptic_07
05/28/2009, 01:24 PM
I use super glue gel, works fine.

A1ramsey
05/28/2009, 01:26 PM
it wont screw with the peramiters of the water? also how long can the zoas stay out fo the water??

650-IS350
05/28/2009, 01:30 PM
I think any of these would work.. as long as they made of CYANOCRYLATE and GEL. I'm partial to the Yellow and Green one. you can get it at the 99CENT store for 6 of them. IC gel is also a good one,

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&um=1&sa=1&q=super+glue+gel&btnG=Search+Images&aq=f&oq=

Bill was talking this one up but I haven't tired it yet...
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://toolmonger.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/post-gorillasg.jpg&imgrefurl=http://toolmonger.com/2008/12/11/gorilla-super-glue/&usg=__BwuKMJwmDj2CzOsXxA32XFAoZ8E=&h=150&w=450&sz=20&hl=en&start=14&um=1&tbnid=99In4Eyt9YtoFM:&tbnh=42&tbnw=127&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgorrilla%2Bsuper%2Bglue%2Bgel%26hl%3Den%26um%3D1

Skeptic_07
05/28/2009, 01:52 PM
It doesn't really mess the water up much, however, after using alot of it (the darn things just wouldn't stick) and being careless i was able to create this weird film of glue in my sump lol it seems like it will make its way to the surface

The right way to do it is to try to dry the surfaces a little so they aren't dripping wet and use small amounts of glue (no more than a few drops), wait 10 seconds for the glue to get a little tacky, stick together, wait again for a bit to let the glue harden, then in a container of tankwater for a bit and then into the tank. Its imporant to get them in water while the glue hardens because it heats up a bit. The glue can cure under water no prob.

Zoos are fine out of water for a while. I accidentally left a colony out for 30-45 mins because i got sidetracked. When i realized i put them back in and they were open again an hour later. IDK if they are all this tolerant of being out of water though.

A1ramsey
05/28/2009, 02:53 PM
so i fragged it and this is how it went.. they were just setting on a ledge of some LR moving around a little bit..
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww214/A1ramsey/P5282205.jpg
then i picked out a peice of LR and dried it off and got it ready for the glue
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww214/A1ramsey/P5282206.jpg
got the zoas and put them in a cup..
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww214/A1ramsey/P5282207.jpg
then put a dab of glue on the lr, and then placed the zoas on it
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww214/A1ramsey/P5282208.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww214/A1ramsey/P5282209.jpg
let them set for a couple minutes then set them in the tank..
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww214/A1ramsey/P5282211.jpg
ill let them set for a little bit and let yall know how they do, thank for all the help!!!

650-IS350
05/28/2009, 03:33 PM
Good, I suggest after fragging. have a plastic up of with your tank water. Place the newly fragged piece that's glued in the cup. What this accomplishes is that it allows the glue to set and harden just enough that when you place it in your tank that its not wet or soft anymore and WON'T have polyps floating off or being pulled of by the water current or snails etc...

A1ramsey
05/28/2009, 04:09 PM
Ahhh ok I forgot to put that part in sorry but I did let it set in the white cup for about 5 minutes then put them in.. They still look pretty ****ed lol

650-IS350
05/28/2009, 04:17 PM
They also do that.. tempermental bastards...

A1ramsey
05/28/2009, 04:40 PM
:lol: i have them near the middle under t5 ho's.. they should be good their right?? i was told that they needed to be placed high in the tank is that true??

650-IS350
05/28/2009, 04:42 PM
As with all corals I place them in the bottom of the tank to allow them to acclimatize to the new tank environment, lighting flow etc.... then every couple weeks I move them up several inches at a time. Depending on your lighitng set up and the polyp in question some like being low, some high. Like some of my devils Armour i have them all the way on top of my rocks 5" from the waters surface and the metal halide is roughly 9" off the tank.

A1ramsey
05/28/2009, 06:55 PM
i have gave them i little bit of time and they are lookin alot better than before here are some pics.. i picked these guys up for $1 a head, $3 is a hell of a deal for them..
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww214/A1ramsey/P5282204_01.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww214/A1ramsey/P5282206_02.jpg

IridescentLily
05/28/2009, 08:54 PM
What a great thread! I learned a whole bunch of great information in these dozen or so posts. :eek:

jok312
05/28/2009, 10:17 PM
good stuff ramsey, once they grow out they should look real nice.

A1ramsey
05/28/2009, 10:39 PM
iridescentliy- thanks, im glad were here to educate everyone.. that was the first frag ive done, so im learnin alot too lol..

jok312- yea i cant wait for thoes little guys to start spreadin everywhere i love the colors when open all up under the t5's, thanks alot for the comments!!

A1ramsey
05/28/2009, 10:44 PM
o yea this is the after math playin with super glue.. i hate this crap, i had my finger super glued to the tube :mad2:
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww214/A1ramsey/P5282210.jpg

650-IS350
05/28/2009, 10:50 PM
I let it dry, then use those nail files to scrub them off. No peeling needed.

A1ramsey
05/28/2009, 11:04 PM
lol thanks i got somethig to do now lol.. ive been pickin at it for a while and its peelin my skin off haha