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JLAURIA751
07/16/2009, 09:18 PM
This Is my experience does anyone have any input or advice about this please post it

UltraLife red slime remover killed the beneficial bacteria that consume nitrites in my aquarium.
2 days ago I went into the room where my 24 gallon aquapod is and my fish were lying on the sand gasping for air. I knew it couldent be the disolved oxygen since the flow in my tank is good. So I tested for ammonia it was zero. then I tested for nitrites the result was shocking it was through the roof My API test kit only reads to 5ppm and it was 2-3 shades darker than the highest reading. I had no Idea what was happening so I took my fish and my coral to my LFS and he graciously is holding them for me.
I was stumped so I went on reef central looking for answers. after bloging for a while someone asked me if I used any medications. Then it hit me 3-4 days prior to the crash I was at my LFS, I told him that I used red slime remover, and asked him if it would help with my other algea he said no red slime is more of a bacteria, and the remover kills it with antibiotics, it wont kill the other algea. I didnt think much of it at the time. I used a little less than the product recomended, and it almost killed my fish. My coral was pretty much un effected but I didn't want to take the chance so hes hodling on to my fish and coral. My point is I will never use that stuff again. I got it from my sister and foolishly went for the quick fix and used it. My point is and I wish I research it sooner is
Ultralife is an antibiotic. It will indescriminanatly kill all simple life forms if the dosage is high enough. That means bacteria, too, so this kind of treatment is a big no-no in FOWLR or reef systems. (Its not much better in fish only systems ... they still need biological filtration.)

rehype
07/16/2009, 09:36 PM
Thanks for the heads up..Im glad you were able to save your livestock in time

vijaym85
07/16/2009, 09:50 PM
sorry to hear this..however you may consider the following to help get you back on track faster.

There are a few products that are designed to help establish the nitrogen cycle in the tank by adding live nitrifying bacteria into the tank which may help lower your high nitrates and nitrites. Im sure the last thing you want to hear is using more products in your tank after what just happened... But if you want to go this route there are a few products which i have heard good things about. Its hard to know whats good and whats a gimmick especially when its something that's not tangible or readily evident like changing light fixtures and seeing a noticeable diff in output but here are a couple of links to products that seem to be bit more good than gimmick.. Hope all goes well.

Microbacter-7
http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=BW-BAC250&Category_Code=

Nutri seawater-- can use this to perform some water changes and its got bacteria built into it
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=16766


Cycle
http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_ViewItem.aspx?category=NUTRAFIN_Cycle_Bacteria_Water_Treatments_Conditioners&vendor=Hagen&idProduct=HG17600&idCategory=FIADWTBS



Prodibio
http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=PRO-SU6&Category_Code=


AZNo3
http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_ViewItem.aspx?category=AZ_NO3_Nitrate_Eliminator_240mL_Nitrate_Phosphate_Eliminator_Additives&vendor=Captive_Purity&idProduct=CP2151&idCategory=FIADSAWE

Mark426
07/17/2009, 02:45 PM
I am sorry to hear of your problems, but something must have gone wrong. I used it once back in the early stages of my tank and know of dozens of others here and on other forums that used this product without any problems. I tested my nitrates/nitrites after I used it and I did see a very slight rise in nitrites it was very small and barely measureable. You must read the directions carefully and dose the correct quantity for your tanks capacity. This is the first I have seen of anyone having your type of problem. Sounds like an accidental major overdose too me. Large water change would be my first step.

dixiedog
07/18/2009, 09:51 AM
My girlfriend used it in her 10 last month. It worked great; didn't hurt a thing - except the cyano ...

mhurley
07/18/2009, 10:28 PM
I've used this product a few times on reef tanks and never experienced what you have.

On the instructions, it says to aerate the tank with an airstone as the process to break down the algae eats up the oxygen in the tank. Seeing your fish gasping sounds like perhaps the tank was not aerated?

I've intentionally overdosed tanks with the product but only when vigorously bubbling it.

NCSUsalt
07/19/2009, 01:27 PM
utlralife is not actually an antibiotic. it doesn't contain erythro like other products, its actually an oxidizer like the kent stuff so it won't harm your cycle. what probably happened is your system couldn't handle the quantity of red slime you killed off