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Ralph ATL
07/25/2009, 08:57 PM
need more reef safe wrasses in DD!


Halichores
Cirrhilabrus
Paracheilinus
Macropharyngodon


PLEASE?

Ralph

dfs/la2
07/25/2009, 09:34 PM
mysterybox,

Thank you for your post. We are showing that there are a few Wrasse available on Diver’s Den that are considered reef safe. However, we would be more than happy to check with our Aquaculture Coral & Marine Life Facility on Monday to find out if we will be expecting any of the other Wrasse you have listed. We will post with an answer as soon as possible. We have provided links below to a couple of the reef safe Wrasse that are currently available through Diver's Den.

Cebu Pylei Fairy Wrasse (http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/ItemDisplay.cfm?C=2733+3&DDID=63985)
KwaZulu Fairy Wrasse (http://WWW.LIVEAQUARIA.COM/DIVERSDEN/iTEMdISPLAY.CFM?C=2733+3&DDID=66748)

Gwen S.
LiveAquaria (http://www.liveaquaria.com)
Drs. Foster and Smith (http://www.drsfostersmith.com)

Ralph ATL
07/25/2009, 09:46 PM
Must be super peaceful as I have liveaquaria pipefish, mm leopard wrasse, and others in tank!

Ralph ATL
07/25/2009, 09:48 PM
So that leaves one 2.5 inch fish available.

dfs/la2
07/25/2009, 09:53 PM
mysterybox,

Thank you for your response. We will be checking Monday to see if we are expecting any other Wrasse you have listed. We will post as soon as we receive any further information.

Gwen S.
LiveAquaria (http://www.lliveaquaria.com)
Drs. Foster and Smith (http://www.drsfostersmith.com)

Ralph ATL
07/25/2009, 10:03 PM
Thank you very, very much! As usual!

DFS
07/27/2009, 12:00 PM
Ralph,

What species are you seeking? Currently we have numerous species in the genera you have listed in your post either on the Divers Den, or in quarantine.

The Pelvic Spot Wrasse-Pseudocheilinops ataenia would be an ideal candidate for an aquarium that contains pipefish.

These very colorful and more cryptic fish stays small (2.5"),and is not aggressive or territorial in any way, unlike their cousin the Six Line Wrasse- Pseudocheilinus hexataenia.

Oftentimes it’s challenging to find fishes that you can successfully maintain with Pipefish to ensure they are getting enough food. The Pelvic Spot Wrasse is one fish that may meet your needs, and hopefully we will be adding some to the Divers Den in the coming weeks.

Cheers!

Ralph ATL
07/27/2009, 12:03 PM
Yeah, I have a very delicate balance. Thanks!!!

Ralph ATL
07/27/2009, 06:58 PM
on my phone earlier, and busy, so sorry for the blunt reply. I really appreciate your expertise and info that you give in a complete manner. I know ya don't remember me, but I met ya at our arc meeting some months ago. again, thanks!

Ralph ATL
07/27/2009, 07:04 PM
ok, sorry but that fish is no beuno to me.

please suggest a few fairies, flames, or flashers that don't lose color, but are very peaceful and won't eat the pods! At this point, I have enough pod eating fish.

Really, thanks!

DFS
07/28/2009, 11:15 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15426792#post15426792 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mysterybox
ok, sorry but that fish is no beuno to me.

please suggest a few fairies, flames, or flashers that don't lose color, but are very peaceful and won't eat the pods! At this point, I have enough pod eating fish.

Really, thanks!

Ralph,

Unfortunately there are no Paracheilinus or Cirrhilabrus wrasse that would meet ALL of the requirements you have listed above. When these fishes are maintained under intense lighting such as Metal Halides which are commonly used on SPS reef aquaria, they will normally loose some of their intense coloration. This varies by species, and although a few of the Flasher and Fairy Wrasse species can be found in more shallow water habitats, the majority of these planktonivore fishes are found in deepwater habitats where they are never exposed to bright sunlight.

Both of these genera of Labrids are very active fish, and although they are not what I would call aggressive, they can become a bit territorial over time, especially towards one another, or similar fish that have the same swimming behavior or body shape. In larger displays this is normally not a problem as long as there are areas in the aquarium for the submissive fish to retreat to.

The smallest Fairy Wrasse of the genus Cirrhilabrus include: C. adornatus (2.6”) C. rubriventralis (2.9”) and C. joanallenae (2.8”) . The smallest Flasher Wrasse of the genus Paracheilinus include: P. lineopunctatus (2.6”), P. attenuatus (2.8”) and P. mccoskeri (2.8”).

Another fish that you may want to consider that is colorful, small (2”), and more cryptic which would mix well with Pipefish is Tanaka’s Pygmy Possum Wrasse- Wetmorella tanaka .

The best scenario would be to relocate the pipefish to a smaller display that only contains tiny gobies, dragonets, other pipefish, or small dartfish (Firefish), which would open the door to maintaining a variety of Labrids in your current display.

Cheers!

Ralph ATL
07/28/2009, 11:21 AM
Thanks! awesome, that gives me some ideas anyway!
Ralph