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JRaquatics
08/12/2009, 02:41 PM
Here are some pictures of the Extreme 200 with the new HY-3000S pump. The difference with this pump on the 200 skimmer body seems to be night and day. The reported air numbers are 43- 46scfh. The best numbers on this skimmer body with the purple pin wheel is 28 to 30scfh. The pump will be maxing out what the body can handle. The pump will mate to the Extreme 200 body and will be a huge increase in performance.

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo164/reefspecialty/HY-3000S248.jpg

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo164/reefspecialty/HY-3000S246.jpg

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo164/reefspecialty/HY-3000S252.jpg

Charlie Davidson
08/12/2009, 04:31 PM
$?

Reefer33
08/12/2009, 06:14 PM
How do you think one of these and a Sicce would perform on an Extreme 300? :)

JRaquatics
08/12/2009, 08:16 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15518726#post15518726 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Charlie Davidson
$?

$210

Charlie Davidson
08/13/2009, 05:33 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15519224#post15519224 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Reefer33
How do you think one of these and a Sicce would perform on an Extreme 300? :)

I have a reef club member that put the askoll pump on his 300. It was a bubble making machine!! Using the 2nd sicce really did not make a difference. (but he drill out 3/4" line and made it 1")

spinnerbayt
08/14/2009, 10:01 AM
Is the HY-3000S pump the small one? I assume that the 5000s is the bigger pump. What is the $$$ on the 5000?

JRaquatics
08/14/2009, 10:05 AM
I don't have pricing on the 5000 pump yet but am expecting a price sheet sometime today. I will post the different models that will be available and the prices here and on our website once I get the info.

Reefer33
08/14/2009, 03:50 PM
Will both the 3000 and 5000 be straight hook ups on the Extremes?

JRaquatics
08/14/2009, 04:09 PM
just the 3000s for the extreme 200s.

Reefer33
08/14/2009, 07:10 PM
Ok cool, so a HY-3000S will mount straight up to an Extreme 300 then, provided there is enough clearance. Both the Extreme 200s and 300s use, Sicce 2500's

JRaquatics
08/15/2009, 01:06 PM
Now available on our site for pre-order. We expect to have them in 3-4 weeks. Bubble Blaster 3000 pump (http://www.reefspecialty.com/p466/Super-Reef-Octopus-Bubble-Blaster-Pump/product_info.html)

BigJay
08/21/2009, 07:19 AM
Thanks for the heads up on what will surely be an excellent product. I'm interested in one, I assume they will fit on the older model MSX/Extreme skimmers?

What is the 3000 pump's GPH rating compared to the sicce with a PPW? I bought the PPW a few months back and it has been the single best improvement to my skimmer ever.

Does the new pump ever have any startup issues?

Will you need the extended neck for this size pump?

What's the operating power consumption of the 3000 pump (watts) compared to the sicce?

Thanks, I appreciate your time.

JRaquatics
08/21/2009, 01:20 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15567766#post15567766 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by BigJay
Thanks for the heads up on what will surely be an excellent product. I'm interested in one, I assume they will fit on the older model MSX/Extreme skimmers?

What is the 3000 pump's GPH rating compared to the sicce with a PPW? I bought the PPW a few months back and it has been the single best improvement to my skimmer ever.

Does the new pump ever have any startup issues?

Will you need the extended neck for this size pump?

What's the operating power consumption of the 3000 pump (watts) compared to the sicce?

Thanks, I appreciate your time.

The HY-3000S is a 35 watt skimmer pump at 800gph. We are expecting to see 55 to 60scfh with this pump on the current Extreme skimmers. The new pumps are reported to have zero start up issues and come with a 3 year warranty. I was also told that you will not need an extension neck when using this pump with the skimmer.

The sicce pumps are rated at 600gph at 20 watts.

With the new Bubble blaster pumps the skimmer will be able to effectively turn over more water due to the higher water pull and the huge increase in air pull. This pump should rock a Octo/MSX body (probably maxing it out) and can't wait to see some in action. One thing I really notice on my Bubble Blaster 5000 is it runs completely cool to the touch externally, so there should be zero heat transfer to the tank water running it internally. This also opens up a whole new door for those mod enthusiasts out there that want to turn there internal Extreme skimmers to external.

JRaquatics
08/26/2009, 12:08 PM
We will only have 10 of these HY-3000S Bubble Blaster pumps arriving around the 20th of September. We will not have an exact footprint till they arrive. I have no doubt that these will be sold out before they arrive and advise anyone interested in getting one to place a pre-order. They will be delivered as a first-come-first served basis due to availability. Our second shipment of HY-3000S Bubble Blaster pumps aren't expected to be available till the end of October.

HY-3000S Bubble Blaster Pump - PRE ORDER (http://www.reefspecialty.com/p466/Super-Reef-Octopus-Bubble-Blaster-Pump/product_info.html)

Amoore311
09/01/2009, 11:34 AM
Any word on the 5000 series pump yet?

How would the 5000 compare to an Askoll on the Extreme 300?



Thanks!

-Adam

JRaquatics
09/01/2009, 12:07 PM
Haven't heard anything lately. IMO the Bubble Blaster 5000 thats on my SRO-5000 external skimmer is superior to the Askoll in efficiency and overall performance.

Amoore311
09/01/2009, 02:36 PM
Interesting Jeremy.

Is that 5000 running on a 3/4" port? Have you thrown an air meter on there to see how much it's pulling?

JRaquatics
09/01/2009, 02:55 PM
I think the out port is larger than 3/4. I have thrown the air meter on it. It bounces between 89-95 scfh and does choke the air because the watts climb when doing so. I estimate on a larger meter that this thing is pulling around 100scfh.

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo164/reefspecialty/DSCN3960.jpg

Amoore311
09/01/2009, 08:50 PM
100 SCFH would pull about 10 more SCFH than the Askoll on a 1" plumbing.


If that bad boy is 3/4" that that is definitely the pump to buy. If you could check that for me it would be great.


Thanks again bro!

Amoore311
09/02/2009, 12:57 PM
Hey Jeremy,


Any word on the output plumbing measurements?

JRaquatics
09/02/2009, 01:17 PM
I couldn't get a measurement on mine because it has a union fitting on the end. I was told by CoralVue that BB 5000 will attach to the 300 extreme skimmer. They will either offer two HY-3000S or one 5000S and something to plug the hole. It is going to be a little time before they are able to get more pumps though.

The XP-5000 models will not be in stock until end of November or early December.

Amoore311
09/02/2009, 09:53 PM
Wow! That's great news.

The askol is an awesome pump don't get me wrong. I's pulling 90ish SCFH through a 1" plumbing though.

Being able to hit that level (higher possibly) with the stock 3/4" plumbing is very exciting.

I'll deal with my 2 sicce's now. I'll be ready to jump on the 5000 pre-order once the time comes.


Thanks for the help as always.

Amoore311
09/03/2009, 01:47 PM
Just got off the phone with Coralvue.

They are telling me the SRO-5000 EXT has 1.5" Inlet Port plumbing. Sucks that the 90 SCFH your seeing on your SRO pump probably won't be possible with the OCTO extremes, unless you bore the 3/4" plumbing out.

JRaquatics
09/03/2009, 01:53 PM
The union on the pump is 1.5 but there is no way the actual output is 1.5". It is 1" or 3/4". You can see in the pics below that they Glued a 1.5 union fitting to couple the skimmer to the body. But the actual output is not 1.5".

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo164/reefspecialty/BBand1500sidebyside.jpg

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo164/reefspecialty/BubbleBlaster_volute.jpg

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo164/reefspecialty/SuperReeft_bubbleblaster.jpg

Amoore311
09/04/2009, 07:41 AM
Yeah, but wouldn't that affect the SCFH numbers of the pump?

For instance your Pump is pulling approximately 100 SCFH through 1.5" plumbing.

If you were to step that down to all 3/4" plumbing it would lower the SCFH quite a bit wouldn't it?

JRaquatics
09/04/2009, 08:01 AM
But it is not pushing through 1.5 plumbing. The output of the volute is much smaller than the union. The plumbing on the Reeflo was 1.5 and I can tell you this is much smaller. When CoralVue sets the pumps up to match the Extreme 3000 you will see they will not be stepping them down a whole lot if at all.

Charlie Davidson
09/04/2009, 08:33 AM
1.5 (ID) on 5000 and 3/4"-1" on 3000 ? :confused:

If fittings are glued on pump, can we buy fittings from you?

JRaquatics
09/04/2009, 08:40 AM
If the pump does have 1.5 fittings then you would place 2 BB3000 on the 300 like CoralVue stated. Like they said these pump upgrades are in the works, but eventually they will be an option for new extreme owners to choose between the sicce or the Bubble Blaster for a little extra $.

Amoore311
09/04/2009, 11:56 AM
Thanks for the info.

I'm just trying to compare numbers between the 5000 and Askol so I can figure out which one I will upgrade to when the time comes.

MarlinHooker
09/21/2009, 02:01 PM
I know they are still working on the design but any idea yet on how much the overall footprint for the Ext 300 will change with these BB 3000 pumps vice the 2500 Sicce's that currently come with the PS?

This design is to use 2 of thes pumps right? or does one BB 3000 replace both of the curent Sicce's?

JRaquatics
09/22/2009, 08:07 AM
We should have an answer for you once the shipment of BB3000 arrive at the end of the month. Really one of the BB 3000 will replace both sicces with pinwheels but IMO the Extreme 3000 body needs two BB3000 to be a great performing skimmer. The other option I heard of is the use of the BB 5000 and a plug for the other port.

casalt
10/17/2009, 04:11 PM
My Sicce pump is on the way out (rattles) so after some research I hit your site. I have the swc 200 with sicce psk2500 . Will the The HY-3000S screw right on with matching unions or does it need to be modified.

N-A-S-O
10/17/2009, 06:40 PM
I was looking for the same anwser as you casalt.

JRaquatics
10/18/2009, 05:56 PM
My Sicce pump is on the way out (rattles) so after some research I hit your site. I have the swc 200 with sicce psk2500 . Will the The HY-3000S screw right on with matching unions or does it need to be modified.

The HY 3000 should match up to the Extreme and SWC 200 skimmer bodies.

ricde
10/25/2009, 11:21 AM
How much does the HY 3000 increase the footprint of an exterme 200? It's a tight fit now with the Sicce in my 20 long but the start-up issue is a real pain.

Also does the pump you linked come with all the connections and venturi/reducer

extreme5450
10/25/2009, 12:59 PM
i'm pretty sure that the bubble blaster pump has an askoll core just different volute

cobbobby
10/25/2009, 03:45 PM
^^No it does not have an askoll motorblock. This is a honya ko of the askoll so its a completely new pump.

JRaquatics
10/27/2009, 05:40 PM
How much does the HY 3000 increase the footprint of an exterme 200? It's a tight fit now with the Sicce in my 20 long but the start-up issue is a real pain.

Also does the pump you linked come with all the connections and venturi/reducer

Yes, it comes equipped with all the necessary components to place directly to the Extreme 200 skimmer.

acropora nut
10/28/2009, 06:35 AM
How much does the HY 3000 increase the footprint of an exterme 200? It's a tight fit now with the Sicce in my 20 long but the start-up issue is a real pain.

Also does the pump you linked come with all the connections and venturi/reducer

Foot print with HY3000S pump 12"x14.5"*

ricde
10/28/2009, 07:50 AM
Thanks, can the new pump be mounted at different angles (like the sicce) or would the increased weight put too much strain on the connection?

Also, can the intake pipe be be mounted backwards to reduce the footprint?

bruster9000
11/01/2009, 06:06 PM
Here are some pictures of the Extreme 200 with the new HY-3000S pump. The difference with this pump on the 200 skimmer body seems to be night and day. The reported air numbers are 43- 46scfh. The best numbers on this skimmer body with the purple pin wheel is 28 to 30scfh. The pump will be maxing out what the body can handle. The pump will mate to the Extreme 200 body and will be a huge increase in performance.

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo164/reefspecialty/HY-3000S248.jpg

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo164/reefspecialty/HY-3000S246.jpg

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo164/reefspecialty/HY-3000S252.jpg



Was there anymore testing on how the hy-3000 performed on the octo extreme 200? Do you have any more pics of it in action?

Charlie Davidson
11/08/2009, 02:30 PM
I do not have my octx200 in the sump right now, but the HY3000s is blowing the doors off another skimmer right now! I am excited about this pump! 41w-52 scfh!
This pic was 2-3 minutes after pump was installed!
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x242/CharlieDavidson/002-36.jpg

Charlie Davidson
11/08/2009, 02:32 PM
Its true, the pump-makes the skimmer!

acropora nut
11/08/2009, 05:50 PM
Looks great Charlie! Please keep us posted.

Charlie Davidson
11/09/2009, 03:43 AM
BTW, I have 1" piping on it now.. so wattage and scfh will drop with used on the 3/4" piping extemes use.
I am just the average skimmer nut, but I swear it has doubled the performance of this skimmer..
The air line does need a silencer, Air draw is powerful!! Once I found a silencer , I noticed the pump does have a Hummm to it that the askoll did not have.
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Directly from box, it can screw up to the octx 200. The pump sits 1" off the ground so a base needs to be made.. One base I saw was 2 pieces small squares of eggcrate stacked on top of each other. I cut 2 pieces of 3/4'PVC ---3" long. they fit under the base of the pump perfect. I also have a block of foam filter that should work.. (but, I have not tried the octx200 .. YET :D )

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x242/CharlieDavidson/001-44.jpg

Yes, I should clean my sump :lol:

JRaquatics
11/09/2009, 11:24 AM
Looks good Charlie. I am currently testing the XP-2000 and it too has a decent vibration. It may take a little breaking in for the bearings lubricate/work in with the shaft. But I can tell you that these Bubble Blaster pumps do perform there is no doubt about that. So far I have gotten the BB5000 and the BB2000 wet and they both are exceptional performers.

acropora nut
11/09/2009, 12:24 PM
Hello everyone.
We now have the HY 5000 Bubble Blaster
pump in stock. Please feel free to contact
me if you have any other questions.

Charlie Davidson
11/09/2009, 12:55 PM
I believe one (at least) of the 5000 are sold :D I will let him know, you have them now..

acropora nut
11/09/2009, 01:15 PM
Hi Charlie, Yes we do have them in stock. :)

Crazy One
11/09/2009, 11:15 PM
Will any of these BB models work on a NW 200 ? Thanks

Charlie Davidson
11/10/2009, 04:08 AM
Will any of these BB models work on a NW 200 ? Thanks

I don't see why the HY3000 wouldn't, Mike/Jeremy Is the union the same?
I have never owned a nw200 but some reefclub members do.. The input on the NW looks lower, but, the discharge on pump can be turned, to lower the output..

Charlie Davidson
11/10/2009, 07:00 AM
10min after feeding
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x242/CharlieDavidson/001-45.jpg

acropora nut
11/10/2009, 07:43 AM
Looking good !!! :)
What did you feed?

Charlie Davidson
11/10/2009, 07:48 AM
Mysis, bloodworms and Ocean Nutriition flake.. (formula 2 and prime reef mixed 5/50)
I dose bacteria weekly, I did this today also..

acropora nut
11/10/2009, 07:54 AM
Charlie you feed like I do!:)
Variety is key to a healthy tank.

Charlie Davidson
11/10/2009, 08:15 AM
BTW, That was just todays feed, I also use Nutramar OVA (prawn roe, GREAT STUFF) ), oyster eggs, cylopeze, brine shrimp, rotifers, Phyto, maybe some others, but thats all I can see in my fridge right now...

Many years ago (10+ ) I was modding downdraft skimmers to Pin/w..I was at a reef club meet and said-- "There are no oversized skimmers... Only underfed tanks" :D
And I believed that .. up till recently! ;)

acropora nut
11/10/2009, 08:21 AM
I feed 3 times a day 7 days a week. The corals and
fish are fat and happy. :)

xtremereefer
11/11/2009, 08:42 PM
acropora nut,

I always wonder what you feed SPS, how often do you do so and what time (lights on off etc.). Also when feeding do you guys turn off your skimmers? I have never turned off my skimmer when I feed the fish. I am currently feeding flake prime reef and formula two, spectrum. Wow I never ever though of feed the fish 3 times a day, always thought my water quality in my tank would just be bad!

acropora nut
11/13/2009, 06:44 AM
When I feed I turn off everything
in the tank (pumps and powerheads) and feed one hour before the lights go off.
The only time I turn the skimmer off is
when I feed phyto or oyster eggs.
Times have changed when It comes to feeding Our tanks because
our skimmers are so much better than before. IMO a great skimmer is the heart of our system!:)

Amoore311
11/13/2009, 08:33 AM
What bubbleblaster pump(s) would you recommend for the MSX/OctoExtreme 300 Body?


I've got the 300 with the 2 Sicce PSK 2500 now. I upgrade to the purple pinwheels and new MSX reducers, and the skimmer is really cranking away now. Always looking for upgrade though.

The askoll pump is an obvious upgrade, but I do not want to have to bore out the plumbing of the skimmer to accomodate the pump.

acropora nut
11/13/2009, 08:43 AM
What bubbleblaster pump(s) would you recommend for the MSX/OctoExtreme 300 Body?


I've got the 300 with the 2 Sicce PSK 2500 now. I upgrade to the purple pinwheels and new MSX reducers, and the skimmer is really cranking away now. Always looking for upgrade though.

The askoll pump is an obvious upgrade, but I do not want to have to bore out the plumbing of the skimmer to accomodate the pump.

I would recommend the BB -5000 pump for
your 300 body .

tangtang clown
11/13/2009, 10:08 AM
+1, 85-100 scfh sounds nice on a 300

Amoore311
11/13/2009, 10:43 AM
Just 1 BB 5000 or (2)?


I'm assuming I would just cap off the other port if only 1 pump was used.

tangtang clown
11/13/2009, 10:58 AM
Correct. One 5000 or maybe 2 2000's or 3000's. Depends on what you want to spend.

acropora nut
11/13/2009, 11:13 AM
I would try one BB 5000 first. If you wanted to
take it to the next level then try it with one of your
Sicce pumps w/ the PPW.

tangtang clown
11/13/2009, 11:15 AM
+1, that sounds even better.

acropora nut
11/13/2009, 11:27 AM
I think this might be the hot combo. :)

Amoore311
11/13/2009, 01:56 PM
Do you guys have a means of testing the set up at your shop? I think it would be a great set up for you guys to market towards customers with this skimmer who don't want to have to bore the plumbing out of their skimmer in order to get increased numbers with an Askoll.

I'm just concerned about the the skimmer being able to handle that kind of water flow, without it burping and disturbing the foam head.

I wouldn't hesitate to order basically whatever pump set up ran best. Whether that be (2) 2000's, (2) 3000's, (1) 5000, (1)5000 + 1Sicce ... or any other combo really.

InfernoST
11/13/2009, 03:31 PM
Does it pay to put a BB2000 on my EXT160 and if so does it come with everything needed for the 160?

acropora nut
11/13/2009, 03:58 PM
It will work but the you would need to unscrew the volute and position the output at the 12 O clock position then mate it to the pump with the attachments.

InfernoST
11/13/2009, 04:16 PM
It will work but the you would need to unscrew the volute and position the output at the 12 O clock position then mate it to the pump with the attachments.
Will the improvement in performance be worth the work/investment?

turbonut
11/16/2009, 08:46 AM
I do not have my octx200 in the sump right now, but the HY3000s is blowing the doors off another skimmer right now! I am excited about this pump! 41w-52 scfh!
This pic was 2-3 minutes after pump was installed!
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x242/CharlieDavidson/002-36.jpg
what other skimmer did u hook it up to?

Charlie Davidson
11/16/2009, 09:40 AM
Ygpm

Reefer33
11/16/2009, 06:53 PM
Ok what do I need so I can attach a BB5000 to my Ext 300 body? Is it a straight screw on? Or will I need additional unions to make it work? Thanks for the help guys!

JRaquatics
11/16/2009, 07:20 PM
I should mount directly up to your 300 body.

Reefer33
11/16/2009, 08:57 PM
Ok I figured it might, just wanted to double check before I went ahead and ordered one. Thanks for the info!

MplsMan
11/23/2009, 12:29 AM
with the askoll hb3000 pump on the swc extreme 200 do you have to bore out the skimmer or will it just adapt to it with out changing anything. i have the sicci 2500 on there now, i believe it's the stock pump.

acropora nut
11/23/2009, 08:16 AM
with the askoll hb3000 pump on the swc extreme 200 do you have to bore out the skimmer or will it just adapt to it with out changing anything. i have the sicci 2500 on there now, i believe it's the stock pump.

The HY 3000 will adapt to your SWC 200
with out one single mod. The foot print is
11" X 15" (That is tight).

tangtang clown
11/23/2009, 11:18 AM
Here is my OCTO EXTREME 200 w/ BB3000 with 3 layers of mesh. 50+scfh (my meter only reads to 50)
I just put the mesh on Saturday so it is still breaking in and these pics were taken right after I started it up.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/bnutz8/BubbleBlasterwith3layers47scfh57-13.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/bnutz8/BubbleBlasterwith3layers47scfh57-1.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/bnutz8/BubbleBlasterwith3layers47scfh57-10.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/bnutz8/th_BubbleBlasterwith3layers47scfh57-5.jpg (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/bnutz8/?action=view&current=BubbleBlasterwith3layers47scfh57-5.flv)
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/bnutz8/th_BubbleBlasterwith3layers47scfh57-14.jpg (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/bnutz8/?action=view&current=BubbleBlasterwith3layers47scfh57-14.flv)

Charlie Davidson
11/23/2009, 11:40 AM
:lol: Tang, you really supercharged it! ( I think I will stay pinwheel )

tangtang clown
11/23/2009, 11:42 AM
I couldn't resist. I really need to clean my water, I have a couple aptasia brewing and I don't want them to get out of hand.

Charlie Davidson
11/23/2009, 11:50 AM
I don't think that will help with aptasia :D
Nuke them with kalk paste.. (joes juice)

OSTguy
11/26/2009, 12:26 PM
Okay if I can see the air draw of a BB 5000 connected to the Octo Extreme 300 with pic, I will buy one ASAP. Heck, make a 10 sec vid and post it. I will gladly spend the cash today.

livenow
11/29/2009, 07:21 PM
You may get your wish I just ordered that pump for my 300

InfernoST
11/30/2009, 03:33 AM
Hi Guys
I made a decision and ordered a HY-2000s for my EXT160 to see how it works before I make the leap into a SRO, hopefully I'll get it this week. I'll try to do that photo thing when mating the new pump and its operation. I can't stand the sicce it's to noisy.

Charlie Davidson
11/30/2009, 04:46 AM
That will be great! My 3000 is very quiet!

tangtang clown
11/30/2009, 10:51 AM
I think they are claiming 85-95scfh with the BB 5000 pump, so expect 60-70scfh. Should be a sweet match for that body.

InfernoST
11/30/2009, 04:49 PM
cool, I think i'm going to take the sicce to the range and aerate it a little.

Charlie Davidson
11/30/2009, 04:57 PM
check this out!
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16062388&postcount=1

InfernoST
11/30/2009, 05:31 PM
That's a cool little tool he made there. I find that the handle end of my lineman pliers work just fine.

tangtang clown
12/01/2009, 05:40 AM
+1 for pliers, but I like the ingenuity of the tee.

Charlie Davidson
12/01/2009, 11:19 AM
I had one sicce pump that was very hard to take apart. since I was playing around and doing 3-4 mesh/w a week on it, this tool would have been very handy.
I felt it was a good tool to post but placed it on the wrong thread :eek:

InfernoST
12/01/2009, 03:25 PM
I had one sicce pump that was very hard to take apart. since I was playing around and doing 3-4 mesh/w a week on it, this tool would have been very handy.
I felt it was a good tool to post but placed it on the wrong thread :eek:
It is a nice tool and thanks for posting it, it will definitely be put in the memory banks for future use.

wdbill
12/01/2009, 05:46 PM
I have a SWC/MSX 200 and I would like to upgrade to the HY3000 pump. I believe that it is the same as the Octo Extreme 200. They both come with the Sicce PSK-2500 pump. I would like to know if it will work before I shell out 200 + dollars on a new pump.

Thanks

JonnyD91
12/01/2009, 06:09 PM
Got my MSX200 supercharged. This thing is pretty awesome. Its no joke. The only issue i had is i turned it on and it shut off after about 20 seconds. I had been moving around the skimmer at that time so not sure what happened. I cycled the power again and it turned right back on. This thing just made it in my sump.

http://novoinnovativedesigns.com/jonnyd/bb%20%281%29.JPG

http://novoinnovativedesigns.com/jonnyd/bb%20%282%29.JPG

After about 2 Min.
http://novoinnovativedesigns.com/jonnyd/bb%20%283%29.JPG

http://novoinnovativedesigns.com/jonnyd/bb%20%284%29.JPG

JRaquatics
12/01/2009, 06:59 PM
Looking slick Johny. The BB is like a turbocharger for a skimmer.

JonnyD91
12/01/2009, 07:00 PM
Looking slick Johny. The BB is like a turbocharger for a skimmer.

THanks for all your help guys. Im soo glad i didnt try to fix my Sicce.


And let it be known that it fits in a 16.5X10 inch area.

tangtang clown
12/02/2009, 06:34 AM
I have one on my OCTOX 200 and it is rockin. The mesh pry helps a lil also. :)

Charlie Davidson
12/02/2009, 08:23 AM
JonnyD :D that is Killer!
I love my BBpump.

acropora nut
12/02/2009, 09:43 AM
JonnyD91 it looks sweet!The BB pumps are a great alternative for the
Octo Extreme line. :)

mike

Charlie Davidson
12/02/2009, 10:08 AM
woops DP

Charlie Davidson
12/02/2009, 10:09 AM
Mine stays like this all the time :thumbsup:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x242/CharlieDavidson/001-49.jpg

tangtang clown
12/02/2009, 11:00 AM
Mine stays like this all the time :thumbsup:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x242/CharlieDavidson/001-49.jpg

Mine is looking similar all the time also. Sicce was not as consistent as BB.

RS, Mike, or Jeremy, somewhere I saw a regular sicce air silencer on a BB 3000. Do you guys or anyone else have an extra silencer that I can use on my BB3000? Right now I just leave my meter hooked to it so it is not too loud. The pump is not loud at all, I am just a stickler for detail :mtool:
Thanks.

JRaquatics
12/02/2009, 11:24 AM
We don't have any but they are fairly easy to make. I actually prefer making one over the stock since it does restrict the airpull and can be mad more quiet just by having a larger connection piece and inlet. I have made simple ones out of pill container and ridgid tubing. Otherwise you can contact Coral Vue about getting one.

tangtang clown
12/02/2009, 02:28 PM
Is threre a pill bottle silencer thread?

N-A-S-O
12/02/2009, 04:11 PM
Got my MSX200 supercharged. This thing is pretty awesome. Its no joke. The only issue i had is i turned it on and it shut off after about 20 seconds. I had been moving around the skimmer at that time so not sure what happened. I cycled the power again and it turned right back on. This thing just made it in my sump.

http://novoinnovativedesigns.com/jonnyd/bb%20%281%29.JPG

http://novoinnovativedesigns.com/jonnyd/bb%20%282%29.JPG

After about 2 Min.
http://novoinnovativedesigns.com/jonnyd/bb%20%283%29.JPG

http://novoinnovativedesigns.com/jonnyd/bb%20%284%29.JPG

Can you tell me what size the skimmer compartment is? I'm working with very limited space and would love to replace my sicce

JRaquatics
12/02/2009, 06:32 PM
THanks for all your help guys. Im soo glad i didnt try to fix my Sicce.


And let it be known that it fits in a 16.5X10 inch area.

Can you tell me what size the skimmer compartment is? I'm working with very limited space and would love to replace my sicce

He states that it's in a 16.5 X 10 inch area

N-A-S-O
12/02/2009, 06:39 PM
Thank you

JonnyD91
12/02/2009, 08:51 PM
24 hours. Its darker in person without the flash, but its kinda dry skinmate.
Already 10 times better than the sicce.

Figures the only thing wrong with my sicce was a broken shaft that i replaced lol it works fine now, maybe i just sell it.

http://www.novoinnovativedesigns.com/jonnyd/skim%20%282%29.JPG

http://www.novoinnovativedesigns.com/jonnyd/skim%20%281%29.JPG

casalt
12/03/2009, 12:08 AM
You guys are killing me here, I just bought a new sicce, old one went 1yr and 2weeks to the day :blown:. Of course the BB comes out right after I spend my money on a pump I dont like. Maybe right after xmas I can talk the wifey into a new pump for HER fish.

tangtang clown
12/03/2009, 06:01 AM
You guys are killing me here, I just bought a new sicce, old one went 1yr and 2weeks to the day :blown:. Of course the BB comes out right after I spend my money on a pump I dont like. Maybe right after xmas I can talk the wifey into a new pump for HER fish.

Sell the "like new sicce"

InfernoST
12/03/2009, 06:33 PM
Hi guys
I also posted this in the KO thread, I got and installed my HY-2000s (a bit on the tricky side) on my EXT-160 today, here are a few photos of the install. I'm going to install it in the sump tomorrow, I'll update with some pics then.

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae99/InfernoST/DSC_6589.jpg
http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae99/InfernoST/DSC_6586.jpg
http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae99/InfernoST/DSC_6587.jpg
http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae99/InfernoST/DSC_6588.jpg

Charlie Davidson
12/03/2009, 06:36 PM
:thumbsup: That is sweet!

InfernoST
12/03/2009, 08:49 PM
Decided to put it in tonight, this is after 5 minutes with valve fully open in 6.5 inches of water, I think I need to raise it so it's sitting in 5 to 5.5 inches. That pump is a beast.
http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae99/InfernoST/DSC_6591.jpg

InfernoST
12/04/2009, 11:00 AM
After morning adjustment this is what it's doing now. Definitely much better than the sicce pump.
http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae99/InfernoST/DSC_6592.jpg

JRaquatics
12/04/2009, 11:10 AM
WOW!!! That 160 looks like it was kicked into overdrive. Great work, can't wait to see it when it breaks in.

InfernoST
12/04/2009, 11:16 AM
WOW!!! That 160 looks like it was kicked into overdrive. Great work, can't wait to see it when it breaks in.
Twin turbos with intercooler. Thanks, I can't wait to see it broken in either. I was saying my prayers when I was threading out the hole on the bottom hoping I wouldn't trash the body, it was definitely worth the stress. I'm happy the pump is working as advertised.

JRaquatics
12/04/2009, 01:11 PM
Yeah the Bubble Blasters really are efficient, well performing pumps for sure.

livenow
12/07/2009, 09:07 PM
finally got my bb hy-5000 pump for my octo ext 300 now have hy -5000 and one sicce pump running wedge pipe fully open water level at taper and now very dry foam about 4 inches from overflowing into collection cup looks good so far I will see in the following days what it does hopefully I can get some number on air and some pic's soon that should make over 100 scfh in steed of maybe 60 scfh

wdbill
12/07/2009, 09:35 PM
I just ordered hy-3000 for my MSX 200 now I will have to see if it will fit on my sump. how much water should it sit in? I got it in 9" right now.

JonnyD91
12/07/2009, 10:13 PM
I just ordered hy-3000 for my MSX 200 now I will have to see if it will fit on my sump. how much water should it sit in? I got it in 9" right now.

Mine is in 9" running great

tangtang clown
12/08/2009, 06:09 AM
I think mine is close to 9 also. I think 8"-10" will work just fine. I just took mesh off of my 3000 and it is silent and skimming like a champ LOL

tangtang clown
12/08/2009, 06:10 AM
I think mine is close to 9 also. I think 8"-10" will work just fine. I just took mesh off of my 3000 and it is silent and skimming like a champ LOL

tangtang clown
12/08/2009, 06:13 AM
I think mine is close to 9 also. I think 8"-10" will work just fine. I just took mesh off of my 3000 and it is silent and skimming like a champ LOL

tangtang clown
12/08/2009, 06:15 AM
Here are some pictures of the Extreme 200 with the new HY-3000S pump. The difference with this pump on the 200 skimmer body seems to be night and day. The reported air numbers are 43- 46scfh. The best numbers on this skimmer body with the purple pin wheel is 28 to 30scfh. The pump will be maxing out what the body can handle. The pump will mate to the Extreme 200 body and will be a huge increase in performance.

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo164/reefspecialty/HY-3000S248.jpg

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo164/reefspecialty/HY-3000S246.jpg

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo164/reefspecialty/HY-3000S252.jpg

JR, why is the pump in your pic black? My whole pump is grey.

wdbill, I think mine is close to 9 also. I think 8"-10" will work just fine. I just took mesh off of my 3000 and it is silent and skimming like a champ LOL

JRaquatics
12/08/2009, 08:25 AM
That was the prototype pump. It also doesn't have a back plate or the updated shaft and bushings.

kmu
12/08/2009, 12:22 PM
I got and Octopus extreme 200 with the sicce pump, would this new BB pump work for me? I got 15"x12" of clearance?

tangtang clown
12/08/2009, 02:49 PM
The BB doesn't take up much more room than the sicce. How much room do you have between your sicce and the sump wall?

wdbill
12/08/2009, 07:48 PM
I got and Octopus extreme 200 with the sicce pump, would this new BB pump work for me? I got 15"x12" of clearance?

I will let you know that is the same size skimmer area that I have. I just ordered one last night.
Are you using a 20 gallon long aquarium for your sump? That's what I'm using and a 20 high for my refugium.

kmu
12/09/2009, 02:51 PM
I will let you know that is the same size skimmer area that I have. I just ordered one last night.
Are you using a 20 gallon long aquarium for your sump? That's what I'm using and a 20 high for my refugium.

Yes Im using a 20g for sump a 24Lx12Wx16H bu the skimmer compartment is only 15Lx12W

jiriki
12/09/2009, 07:29 PM
Can the air intake device and volute be purchased as spare parts? I am thinking of modifying mine but I would like to know if I screw up, how much it would cost me :)

vipjd39
12/10/2009, 11:31 AM
so is the 2000s a direct fit to the extreme 160 or is there some modding to be done?

InfernoST
12/10/2009, 01:34 PM
so is the 2000s a direct fit to the extreme 160 or is there some modding to be done?
There is some modding to be done, I did it to mine and it was worth it. Go back to page 5 response 112 and se what I did.

jiriki
12/10/2009, 04:32 PM
Has anyone modded theirs to do recirc on a non-Reef Octopus skimmer? I have a GEO skimmer already in recirc with Sedra 9000. The volute could take a standard 1" pipe and I would have to add in my own air intake somehow. Or I would have to figure out how to glue a fitting to the stock air intake.

livenow
12/10/2009, 08:58 PM
hy-5000 octo x http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=92677&stc=1&d=1260503872http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=92678&stc=1&d=1260503872http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=92679&stc=1&d=1260503872http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=92680&stc=1&d=1260503872

maroun.c
12/13/2009, 01:38 AM
Will the BB fit on a Hurricone 1?
would you suggest the 5000 for it and do you think it'll work fine?
one last question does the BB come in 220V 50 Hz version?

Charlie Davidson
12/13/2009, 05:25 PM
Will the BB fit on a Hurricone 1?
would you suggest the 5000 for it and do you think it'll work fine?
one last question does the BB come in 220V 50 Hz version?

I wish I still had my cat1, I would try it for you.
I know the 3000 would be too small for the cat1 neck , but the 5000 could better (I don't know).

Who sells octo stuff where you live?

maroun.c
12/13/2009, 10:05 PM
No one does. Although some reefers here would be very interested in those skimmers if they were available.
Had to buy my Cat 1 when I was on a trip to cleveland and it was early production days. Got it with a Reefoctopus sticker on it as they didn't have the stickers yet.
Currently struggling with finding a 220V 50Hz pump that works with it as I'm sure the Askoll will not last long. I have it on a transformer that gives it 110V however that does not affect the hz and I don't know if that will shorten its lifespan. so far it's grat and runs perfect no rattling or humming on anything but need to be on the safe side.

MSX-Jeff
12/13/2009, 10:17 PM
You should be able to find a 220v/50hz Askoll that will mate up directly with the volute on your cat1...The Askoll is made in Italy, and they offer it in both 110v and 220v.

wdbill
12/16/2009, 04:13 PM
I just got my bubble blaster 3000. It looks impresive I can't wait to put into action. it is a bit bigger than the Sicce PSK-2500. It should kick some @$$.

tangtang clown
12/17/2009, 06:14 AM
Congrats. You should like it. I like mine a lot.

Rickyrooz1
12/17/2009, 02:27 PM
I think I am going to order the BB 3000 for my Vertex IN-180. I went through two Resun pumps (both have the same problem and were replaced by Vertex). For some reason the pumps are chewing up the washers on the impeller and once that happens the pump no longer skims.

Charlie Davidson
12/17/2009, 02:37 PM
:thumbsup: I love my 3000!

Rickyrooz1
12/17/2009, 02:44 PM
:thumbsup: I love my 3000!

What modifications did you have to make so the BB 3000 would fit the Vertex IN-180? Are you using the Vertex air silencer (standpipe)?

tangtang clown
12/17/2009, 02:44 PM
Is yours still producing CD?

Charlie Davidson
12/17/2009, 02:58 PM
Tang it is kicking butt! BTW, I ordered a air sliencer for it but was sent wrong one :( (Not coralvue-different company)
Ricky, I posted the pic on the other thread.
The bb3000 come with a ( extra) 1" union that threads onto pump. Its made for this pump. on the otherside I used the pipe that I had that fits the 180 opening. (slighty smaller than 1") Ken said he found ABS pipe at homedepot.
The airline is alot larger than vertex one, so you will have to make one , or try to find one that works.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x242/CharlieDavidson/001-46.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x242/CharlieDavidson/003-18.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x242/CharlieDavidson/002-38.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x242/CharlieDavidson/001-44.jpg

tangtang clown
12/18/2009, 06:13 AM
Here are two pics and a vid from earlier this week, about 1-2 days worth.
I cleaned the cup this morning after 5 days and it was nasty. Decided to tank the 3 layers of eggcrate from underneathe the skimmer and let it sit in deeper water. I don't like to set it and forget it, and then leave for work. I tend to leave it a lil on the dry when I have to leave so it won't over flow while I am gone.

The humming noise in the vid is my CL pump, not the BB :fun2:

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/bnutz8/skimmer002.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/bnutz8/skimmer001.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/bnutz8/th_skimmer003.jpg (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/bnutz8/?action=view&current=skimmer003.flv)

Charlie Davidson
12/18/2009, 06:32 AM
One days worth.
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x242/CharlieDavidson/001-52.jpg

Charlie Davidson
12/18/2009, 06:33 AM
Tang what size is the outlet piping on 200?

tangtang clown
12/18/2009, 07:00 AM
CD, I am ashamed of you! You are supposed to know the 200 inside and out! LOL

I think it is 1.5". When I did the gvm I think I had to buy a 50mm to 1.5" adapter.

You have a ton of skimmate for one day CD. I checked the air this morning after lowering the skimmer/raising the water level and it was in the 20s. Weird. I didn't have time to tinker with it, but I will when I get home.

Charlie Davidson
12/18/2009, 07:10 AM
with the 1" input on this skimmer, I get @50scfh every time I check. ( with my thinwall piping it is @1.25")

I am 99.9% sure its @2" .. I am pretty sure that the silencer on my hurricone also fit the 200 and the vertex skimmer with BBpump. ( my 200 is in Richmond now, and I sold hurricone) But I was shipped a much smaller silencer, so I have that .1% doubt...

BTW, whats weather going to do there? my wife says she heading down there to visit her relatives but I told her not to travel this weekend!

tangtang clown
12/18/2009, 09:25 AM
I think the input on the 200 is .75", just a guess though. What is @ 2"? The outlet?
The weather is cold here and it is going to rain tonight. You should be getting a lot of snow soon. I have family in Keene and they are expecting snow. You?

Charlie Davidson
12/18/2009, 09:37 AM
Yes the outlet.. I guess I will call reefspecilty to make sure of size.
inlet is @ 3/4" on 200extreme, I recently measured it.

Edit: it is @ 2" ( I was sent wrong part)

Rickyrooz1
12/18/2009, 10:47 AM
Charlie Davidson, how high is your water level when you get 50 SCFH?

Charlie Davidson
12/18/2009, 10:57 AM
Its sitting in 8.75"

tangtang clown
12/18/2009, 12:49 PM
I just rechecked scfh and it is about 33.

wdbill
12/18/2009, 01:14 PM
Yes Im using a 20g for sump a 24Lx12Wx16H bu the skimmer compartment is only 15Lx12W

I got my bubble blaster 3000 and it won't fit into a 12'' x 15'' area. a earler post said that he was had it in a 10'' x 16.5'' area. My skimmer is a MSX/Extreme 200. I'm going to move the baffle back 2'' and it should fit. It is a big improvement next to the sicce

why does the bubble blaster 3000 have such a long power? The cord is 15' feet long?

JonnyD91
12/18/2009, 01:19 PM
I got my bubble blaster 3000 and it won't fit into a 12'' x 15'' area. a earler post said that he was had it in a 10'' x 16.5'' area. My skimmer is a MSX/Extreme 200. I'm going to move the baffle back 2'' and it should fit. It is a big improvement next to the sicce

why does is have such a long power cord is 15' feet long?


It should fit. Im the one that has it in the 16.5X10" area.

You need to turn the skimmer so the pump is on an angle in the compartment.

Check my build out there are pics of this
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1687145&page=5

wdbill
12/18/2009, 01:33 PM
It should fit. Im the one that has it in the 16.5X10" area.

You need to turn the skimmer so the pump is on an angle in the compartment.

Check my build out there are pics of this
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1687145&page=5

My skimmer area is 12'' x 14'' I need to modify the sump a bit. it needs to be longer. I will pull the divider out and relocate it.

wdbill
12/19/2009, 01:00 PM
My skimmer area is 12'' x 14'' I need to modify the sump a bit. it needs to be longer. I will pull the divider out and relocate it.

I had more time to play with it. And my skimmer area is 12'' x 14.5 and it fits with no room to play with it is a good fit. and much less noise than the sicce. It has more of a hum not bad at all compared to the sicce.

InfernoST
12/22/2009, 07:28 AM
Hi Guys
It's been a little while since I installed the BB2000 in my 160 and I believe she is fully broken in now. Here are a few pics, I just re-scaped and cleaned up my tank so I'm running her a little on the wet side. I'm glad I swapped out the sicce.:dance:
http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae99/InfernoST/DSC_6594.jpg

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae99/InfernoST/DSC_6593.jpg

tangtang clown
12/22/2009, 08:33 PM
How do you get your cup full of bubbles like that? Looks great. Congrats!

InfernoST
12/23/2009, 03:17 AM
Thanks, Not sure how, but it is pretty.

JonnyD91
12/23/2009, 07:53 AM
How do you get your cup full of bubbles like that? Looks great. Congrats!

I have noticed if i point the output of the skimmer directly toward the bubble trap baffels going toward the next section of the sump, i get that same skimmate. If I turn the output to recirculate in the skimmer section toward the pump it is not nearly as good.

InfernoST
12/23/2009, 05:24 PM
I have noticed if i point the output of the skimmer directly toward the bubble trap baffels going toward the next section of the sump, i get that same skimmate. If I turn the output to recirculate in the skimmer section toward the pump it is not nearly as good.

I have my output pointing towards the intake of the skimmer, the skimmer section in my sump is very small and doesn't leave me with many options.

Charlie Davidson
12/23/2009, 05:34 PM
Inferno,,Man! You can see that is a supercharged.. I will say it again, great job my friend :thumbsup:

InfernoST
12/23/2009, 05:46 PM
Thanks CD. I owe it to you guys, Thanks.

PowermanKW
12/25/2009, 04:54 AM
So how much air draw does the 3000 get, and what is the size of the discharge. I did read the whole thread, but my brain is mush now. I am looking at putting something else on my skimmer, and I am looking at how hard it will be to mate up.

Charlie Davidson
12/25/2009, 10:21 AM
Like any pump, depends on what you hook it up to.
I got @40 on 3/4" (octx200) and @50 on 1" (1.25?)
Both have 4" neck.

The octx 200 was more stable IMHO.

PowermanKW
12/25/2009, 07:07 PM
I'm looking at needing 50 minimum to be worth it for what I want. Trying to decide if a 3000 will cut it, or go with a Askoll. A Askoll though will have to be tuned down.

tangtang clown
12/26/2009, 12:08 PM
Like any pump, depends on what you hook it up to.
I got @40 on 3/4" (octx200) and @50 on 1" (1.25?)
Both have 4" neck.

The octx 200 was more stable IMHO.

CD, what are you doing to the pump to get 50? Mine will only 40-45 unhooked in the sump. I am getting 45 steady with my 3 layers of mesh.
I guess it could be my meter though.

Chihuahua6
12/28/2009, 10:18 AM
One of my Sicce pumps on my Extreme 300 stopped working after a few months. Can I replace it with a BB 5000 and use it with the working Sicce pump?

acropora nut
12/28/2009, 10:31 AM
One of my Sicce pumps on my Extreme 300 stopped working after a few months. Can I replace it with a BB 5000 and use it with the working Sicce pump?

Yes that combo will work well.

tangtang clown
12/28/2009, 11:10 AM
I would like to see that combo.

Chihuahua6
12/28/2009, 12:51 PM
I would like to see that combo.

I'll be setting the new tank up late January. If I remember I'll post some pics.

Hopefully this combination will work well in my 367 gal without needing to upgrade to a larger skimmer.

livenow
12/28/2009, 07:25 PM
1 sicce original plus hy-5000 bb pump don't even care of air numbers it now works ten times better then stock with ppw. First pic 2hrs after cleaning other pics when first set up.http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=94839&stc=1&d=1262053089http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=94842&stc=1&d=1262053510http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=94843&stc=1&d=1262053510http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=94844&stc=1&d=1262053510http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=94845&stc=1&d=1262053510

livenow
12/28/2009, 07:28 PM
poor pics from iphone the sicce has ppw

Reefer33
12/28/2009, 08:56 PM
Looks like that is the hot set up for the Extreme 300!

tangtang clown
12/29/2009, 06:19 AM
Live, got any pics of the pumps?

livenow
12/29/2009, 03:18 PM
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/album.php?albumid=864&pictureid=6312http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/album.php?albumid=864&pictureid=6311

tangtang clown
12/29/2009, 03:37 PM
What size inlet into the skimmer?

livenow
12/29/2009, 04:30 PM
The octo is stock never measured inlet looks to be same size as outlet of hy-5000. All I did was disconnect one sicce, take the new pump out of box and hook it up

tangtang clown
12/29/2009, 06:06 PM
Weird, did the pump come with I bigger union? Mine came with two unions and the one I need for my OtcoX200 was the smaller one. I too replaced a sicce. I bet that pump would do a lot better with a larger input, ie 1" or so. Unless you are satisfied now.

livenow
12/29/2009, 06:23 PM
yes the one still in the box looks like one inch

Guiso
05/12/2010, 07:46 AM
The pump bb is quieter and generates a smaller amount of noise that sicce?
My pump sicce psk2500 produces a vibration unbearable, when near the glass.

which model is recommended for octx200 octopus? the bb3000?

Tanks.

tangtang clown
05/12/2010, 09:05 AM
I have the bb3000 on my octox 200 and love it.

Charlie Davidson
05/12/2010, 09:06 AM
Tang, I am 99% sure all the octo's that came with sicce pumps have 3/4" connection.
( true ID is actually a bit less, somewhere around 5/8 if I remember)

Guiso, yes the BB is ALOT quieter, yes the bb3000 fit the 200. BTW, welcome to reefcentral!

tangtang clown
05/12/2010, 11:05 AM
Wow Charlie Davidson, is it really you? Good to see you back.

Welcome to RC Guiso.

Rhodes19
08/03/2011, 03:56 PM
Its an old thread but lots of good info. I am confused though, the gph numbers I see posted are much higher than what I'm finding on line today. Did the BB pumps change since 2009? For example, I thought someone posted the BB 3000 pushes 800 gph but I'm finding web site stating 400 gph. I have a SWC xtreame 200 with a Sicce PSK 2500 I want to replace, would the BB 5000 be the pump I should get? Thanks.

JonnyD91
08/04/2011, 11:49 AM
Its an old thread but lots of good info. I am confused though, the gph numbers I see posted are much higher than what I'm finding on line today. Did the BB pumps change since 2009? For example, I thought someone posted the BB 3000 pushes 800 gph but I'm finding web site stating 400 gph. I have a SWC xtreame 200 with a Sicce PSK 2500 I want to replace, would the BB 5000 be the pump I should get? Thanks.

This is the one to get:

http://www.reefspecialty.com/virtuemart/12-protein-skimmers/60-accessories/415-super-reef-octopus-bubble-blaster-pump-hy-3000s.html?keyword=bubble+blaster

That's what i have been using on that same skimmer for 2 years now.

luisgo
08/04/2011, 01:44 PM
That is what I have in my SWC Xtreme 200 the Bubble Blaster 3000. Night and day when compared to the Sicce

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc142/luisgo/063-1.jpg


http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc142/luisgo/2010-12-11_7s.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc142/luisgo/2010-12-11_10s.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc142/luisgo/2010-12-11_11s.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc142/luisgo/2010-12-11_4s.jpg


http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc142/luisgo/005-7.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc142/luisgo/007-8.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc142/luisgo/015-8.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc142/luisgo/016-8.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc142/luisgo/017-8.jpg

acropora nut
08/04/2011, 02:00 PM
This is a great upgrade! Adding the bubble Blaster pump makes these skimmers MONSTERS!


Mike

acropora nut
08/04/2011, 02:02 PM
Its an old thread but lots of good info. I am confused though, the gph numbers I see posted are much higher than what I'm finding on line today. Did the BB pumps change since 2009? For example, I thought someone posted the BB 3000 pushes 800 gph but I'm finding web site stating 400 gph. I have a SWC xtreame 200 with a Sicce PSK 2500 I want to replace, would the BB 5000 be the pump I should get? Thanks.

You would need the BB 3000 pump...

BB 3000 pump (http://www.reefspecialty.com/virtuemart/12-protein-skimmers/60-accessories/415-super-reef-octopus-bubble-blaster-pump-hy-3000s.html)

Rhodes19
08/04/2011, 02:18 PM
This is the one to get:

http://www.reefspecialty.com/virtuemart/12-protein-skimmers/60-accessories/415-super-reef-octopus-bubble-blaster-pump-hy-3000s.html?keyword=bubble+blaster

That's what i have been using on that same skimmer for 2 years now.

Cool beans. Thanks JonnyD. :)

Rhodes19
08/04/2011, 03:40 PM
That is what I have in my SWC Xtreme 200 the Bubble Blaster 3000. Night and day when compared to the Sicce

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc142/luisgo/063-1.jpg


http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc142/luisgo/2010-12-11_7s.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc142/luisgo/2010-12-11_10s.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc142/luisgo/2010-12-11_11s.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc142/luisgo/2010-12-11_4s.jpg


http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc142/luisgo/005-7.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc142/luisgo/007-8.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc142/luisgo/015-8.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc142/luisgo/016-8.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc142/luisgo/017-8.jpg


luisgo,

Thanks for your response and for your pictures. Especially the pic of the connection mod. That thing really does put out some bubbles. Does your pump sit on the floor of the sump of did you have to elevate it?

Rhodes19
08/04/2011, 03:48 PM
You would need the BB 3000 pump...

BB 3000 pump (http://www.reefspecialty.com/virtuemart/12-protein-skimmers/60-accessories/415-super-reef-octopus-bubble-blaster-pump-hy-3000s.html)

Hi Mike,

Thanks. :) How much GPH does it push? On the Coralvue's website, it lists it as 400 gph but I've seen it also listed as 600 gph and 800 gph. Would the BB 5000 be to much for the skimmer to handle?

acropora nut
08/04/2011, 03:54 PM
Hi Mike,

Thanks. :) How much GPH does it push? On the Coralvue's website, it lists it as 400 gph but I've seen it also listed as 600 gph and 800 gph. Would the BB 5000 be to much for the skimmer to handle?

The Bubble Blaster 5000 would overflow your skimmer like a volcano ! The 3000 is perfect. Please feel free to give me a call if you have any other questions.
Thank you

Mike

Rhodes19
08/04/2011, 04:00 PM
The Bubble Blaster 5000 would overflow your skimmer like a volcano ! The 3000 is perfect. Please feel free to give me a call if you have any other questions.
Thank you

Mike

Thanks Mike, will do. :)

luisgo
08/04/2011, 05:43 PM
Does your pump sit on the floor of the sump of did you have to elevate it?

I had to elevate the pump just a little. I placed a piece of tubing on the base. see this picture.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc142/luisgo/007-8.jpg

Rhodes19
08/05/2011, 08:48 AM
I had to elevate the pump just a little. I placed a piece of tubing on the base. see this picture.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc142/luisgo/007-8.jpg

Cool beans. :) Thanks. I was wondering what that was.

Rhodes19
08/09/2011, 08:20 AM
Just ordered the BB 3000. Can't wait to get it in and on the skimmer. :)

tangtang clown
08/09/2011, 08:50 AM
You are going to love it. Mine is still going strong today. I never have to touch it, knock on wood.

BowieReefer84
02/08/2012, 10:26 AM
Back from the dead...

Is anyone using the 4" extended neck/cup on their Octopus 200 with the BB3000 pump? Curious as to performance gains?

Thanks

flfireman1
03/31/2012, 09:14 AM
Back from the dead...

Is anyone using the 4" extended neck/cup on their Octopus 200 with the BB3000 pump? Curious as to performance gains?

Thanks

+1, Anybody using this combo, or at least the 4" extended neck with the sicce pump? Any difference in production?