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fishkid6692
08/14/2009, 08:32 AM
i have been thinking about pairing up my hybrid with a small eibli angel. any one think it could work? thanks. :)

michael_cb_125
08/14/2009, 08:46 AM
I think that you you should pair it up with a Conspic/Personifer Hybrid!

~Michael

fishkid6692
08/14/2009, 09:38 AM
lol that was my first choice but i didn't think it would work out to well :p

fishkid6692
08/14/2009, 10:46 AM
no one?

michael_cb_125
08/14/2009, 10:48 AM
So I am no one? ;)

On a serious note, you could try. But personally I would keep him as the solitary pygmy. He is far too gorgeous to be subjected to undue stress IMO.

~Michael

tanglovers
08/14/2009, 10:55 AM
If you are going to attempt pairing a small eibli would be the route I would take. When I say small get as small as possible. Use a specimen container or tank divider for the new one when introduced and be ready to seperate if the "tigerpyge" gets too worked up about the new one at all.

jmaneyapanda
08/14/2009, 10:56 AM
Personally, I think it would be an unnecessary risk. What if the unique (and costly) fish were injured or worse from the $45 fish?

tanglovers
08/14/2009, 10:58 AM
It is a good point is it worth it for such a fish?

fishkid6692
08/14/2009, 11:03 AM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15529260#post15529260 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tanglovers
If you are going to attempt pairing a small eibli would be the route I would take. When I say small get as small as possible. Use a specimen container or tank divider for the new one when introduced and be ready to seperate if the "tigerpyge" gets too worked up about the new one at all.

thats exactly what i was planning on doing. and i was going to try and get a 1 inch eibli. and i don't think a 1 inch fish could hurt my 3+ inch tigerpyge? i just like the way pairs of fish interact.

tanglovers
08/14/2009, 11:07 AM
Stress is not always aggression causing injury. The larger fish could get stressed trying to dominate/chase the smaller on causing its feeding habits to change.

Reguardless of what you do. I would let the tigerpyge settle in for quite a while longer before attempting a pairing or adding anything new to the tank. Obviously QT anything new very extensively....

fishkid6692
08/14/2009, 11:14 AM
yea the eibli would go into quarantine for 8 weeks. and if the tigerpyge shows aggression while the eibli is in the specimen container i wouldn't release it and i would move it to a diff. tank. if i'm just asking for trouble then please let me know and i won't do it. thanks for the replies everyone!

ccampbell57
08/14/2009, 12:03 PM
If I were you Matt, I would not try to add another ebili. I would say go for it if you had a less unique angel and could "risk" it.

In any case your tigerpyge is iffy to adapt to another similar angel and the one that you are trying to pair may not like the tiger.

IMHO...dont do it...

fishkid6692
08/14/2009, 12:12 PM
ok thanks. and does this mean that i can't add any more centropyges when i upgrade? i was going to do a pair of joculators.

myerst2
08/14/2009, 12:25 PM
Also the presence of another centropyge may cause your tigerpye to change his colors for the worse. T

e55MD
08/14/2009, 12:39 PM
Matt,

I have an idea. Why don't you wait until you grow up and get a real job before you talk about acquiring fish that cost hundreds or thousands of dollars each.

fishkid6692
08/14/2009, 01:16 PM
lol.

Ian
08/14/2009, 01:27 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15529896#post15529896 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by e55MD
Matt,

I have an idea. Why don't you wait until you grow up and get a real job before you talk about acquiring fish that cost hundreds or thousands of dollars each.

No offense but give the kid a break, he's already taken a beating here.

I would have gotten into a lot less trouble growing up if I was into fish instead of the other 'hobbies' I picked up. The kid obviously wants to learn and if he keeps it up, he'll have plenty to share years down the line w/ the next generation of fish nerds.

If I had the resources he has, Id take advantage of them too :D

MADtanks
08/14/2009, 01:28 PM
why is there always someone that has to post like that? I wish i had the opportunity when i was younger but im not going to bash him b/c of it.... If you have nothing to add about the conversation why even post? its nonsense.

Let him do his thing, and hopefully he will take the advice he is getting to the heart! Personally Matt i agree with the other guys i would not risk it, im sure you can afford another 3 or 4 lol but its just too unique to risk.... If anything i would try to hybrid another 2 ;) to try to get another one of these lol.

MADtanks
08/14/2009, 01:36 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15530143#post15530143 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ian
No offense but give the kid a break, he's already taken a beating here.

I would have gotten into a lot less trouble growing up if I was into fish instead of the other 'hobbies' I picked up. The kid obviously wants to learn and if he keeps it up, he'll have plenty to share years down the line w/ the next generation of fish nerds.

If I had the resources he has, Id take advantage of them too :D

Those are my thoughts too man....

fishkid6692
08/14/2009, 01:38 PM
thanks guys. :) i've kind of gotten used to it ha. and rich what do you mean "hybrid" another? you mean try to "make" another hybrid? :D hmmmmmmmm......i do have an empty 34g. lol

Chelsey
08/14/2009, 01:48 PM
I personally wouldn't do it. Your tigerpyge is a beautiful fish but what would you gain by pairing him up?

Pairings as a general rule are done to try and get offspring from the fish. This is worth the risk with clownfish, gobies, blennies, etc, but what do you have to gain by pairing up your fish? Even if they do start spawning there is basically no chance that you'll be able to raise any fry. IMO it wouldn't be worth the risk to your tigerpyge by pairing him with a smaller eibli. I'd hate to see something happen to this gorgeous, unique animal.

fishkid6692
08/14/2009, 01:59 PM
yea i'm not going to pair him. but raising centropyges IS possible. a few people have done it. i hope to try it sometime this year. maybe i'll try it in my 34g once it's empty. the tank is being moved in today :)

tanglovers
08/14/2009, 02:22 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15529825#post15529825 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by myerst2
Also the presence of another centropyge may cause your tigerpye to change his colors for the worse. T

This is a good point that I did not even consider.

HomeSlizzice
08/14/2009, 03:52 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15529896#post15529896 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by e55MD
Matt,

I have an idea. Why don't you wait until you grow up and get a real job before you talk about acquiring fish that cost hundreds or thousands of dollars each.


wow, is all I have to say. :rolleye1:

BrianD
08/14/2009, 03:56 PM
There is a "report this post to a moderator" button. Please use it. Let me be the bad guy.

Matt, there is zero reason to chance anything with that fish. You have to realize when you purchase a specimen like that you have to make special accomodations, and that includes making the tank as dedicated to that fish as possible.

HomeSlizzice
08/14/2009, 04:00 PM
But about pairing up your Tigerpyge, I agree with Chris I wouldn't risk it.

John Dawe
08/14/2009, 04:01 PM
Why not get a two small fish to go with it. A eblie and Lemmon?
It would make a great display. Is everyone forgetting that they live in groups, 1 male pluse several females?

fishkid6692
08/14/2009, 04:51 PM
thats why i didn't think it would be a problem. but i guess it's not worth the risk.

Cantonesefish
08/14/2009, 10:50 PM
If you find another "tyger'pyge" that would make a cool pair !

fishkid6692
08/14/2009, 11:50 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15532790#post15532790 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Cantonesefish
If you find another "tyger'pyge" that would make a cool pair !

i don't think thats going to happen lol. and if i do see another one i have a feeling i won't get a chance to buy it.

Terra Ferma
08/15/2009, 12:06 AM
Unless there is an unknown and unusual occurrence of those things in the Indian Ocean....that is a once in a decade fish (particularly in this country). I wouldn't put anything in with it..even with sound quarantine practice thing cans and do go wrong. Which is why you don't often see people posting pics of their one of a kind specimens they have had for 5-10 years.

tcmfish
08/15/2009, 12:23 AM
I'd try it but maybe I'm crazy. I know the fish was a lot of money and is very unique, but I think it would be interesting to see if it would pair with both a lemonpeel and an ebili (not at the same time). Maybe there would be a preference, maybe you could even pair it with a half-black/lemonpeel hybrid. Pairing it up seems like an interesting idea to me...

amore169
08/15/2009, 12:33 AM
I wouldn't try in pairing up this beautiful fish Matt, but good luck if u do.

fishkid6692
08/15/2009, 07:21 AM
atm i'm not going to. maybe down the road in a few months if anything. if i did try it i would but it in the specimen container and if i saw any aggression i could pull the eibli. i'm going to let the tigerpyge get settled in to it's new tank and then maybe early next year. thanks everyone!

michael_cb_125
08/15/2009, 07:22 AM
I think that you made the right decision.

But when the time comes........ I like my first suggestion ;)

~Michael

fishkid6692
08/15/2009, 08:18 AM
lol i'll keep that in mind :p