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CyanoMagnet
08/26/2009, 09:06 AM
Ive had this guy for something like 4-5 years. A series of events has almost killed the poor guy and all my fault :(

A couple weeks I went on vacation, I had someone feed the fish for me. The day before I left I noticed he wasnt eating flake food (he usualy has a very voracious appetite). Apparently he didnt eat much if at all my whole trip, and when I get back he is a skeleton of himself. So I start the process of trying out different foods, using garlic to get his appatite back and its working, he is very weak, but he starts coming back after a day or so.

The next major problem I find out about when I get back is that the skimmer vent is all clogged up from a tiny snail that got into the air intake and its making no bubbles whatso ever. I need skimmer to work for oxygen to the tank because I run a calcium reactor AND a sulfur denitrator, AND the windows were closed while we were gone (so oxygen is a real issue now).

Then yet another disaster occurs, one that has never happened all the years I have had this damn tank.

I have a autotopoff system that takes water from a reservoir and fills the tank up when water reaches a certain level in the sump. However unknown to me the hoseline has come loose and dropped into the back of the overflow (where topoffwater usualy enters) . As soon as the autotopoff system kicks in and finishes its job, the line starts syphoning water back into the 40 gallon reservoir... Did I mention there is kalk in the topoff? Its fully saturated. So it keeps doing it, siphons water out of the tank, auto top off kicks in fills it back up, over and over.

I notice pretty quickly that the PH is spiking upwards (it was at 8.7 from 7.7) and panick .I think theres a leak in the tank somewhere and Im franticaly searching for it, because I dont know as of yet the siphoning is happening. After I conduct the search and find no leaks I finaly figured it out. I put some vinegar into the tank to bring it down a little(man i hate playing chemist but I didnt know what to do) and start watching my fish.

Powderblue stops eating completely (2 days ago) . The other fish show visible signs of stress, torn fins, discoloration but they will be fine because they are fat and still eating. Tang keeps detiorating through out the day. Its having a hard time swimming upright and just goes to a corner and wobbles there.
I turn off a couple of my pumps to make it easier on him.

Yesterday morning I get up I cant see the tang. I look underneath (i have barebottom tank) and see him laying there in tha back , with a hole in the side of its head where its laying with stuff growing out of it) and I see absolutely zero gill movement, no movement whatso ever. His eyes are all dialated. Ive seen dead fish before and this one looks dead.

I do a "please god dont let him be dead" but I was sure he was dead at this point. I feel pretty darn sad and begin the process of flushing him out of the corner area with a little water flow.

The instant the water hit him he like woke up or something. He was still having a very hard time swimming upright but he was breathing. His eyes were dialiting in and out, like getting smaller and bigger . He is still in really bad shape at this point but for some reason he keeps improving through out the next hour or 2. I try and give little bits of food at a time, flakes, brine, mysis, seasweed, and it starts he eats one flake .

Through out the day he also eats a few mysis, and a few brine shrimp, very uninterested unless it litteraly lands in its mouth. I put ALOT of food in the tank (my tank will handle it tho, once I dropped a entire package of frozen food in there so its pretty established, dont try this at home).

He was looking his best near the end of the day. The hole (it was morelike boil or something) in his head is also almost completely healed , you can still see a indentation , but theres nothing in there now, just a little crater.

Im looking at him now , he is still sleeping , but he is upright and looks alot better than he did yesterday morning. He is still not out of the woods yet but I feel there is a good chance he will recover.

This is kind of a miracle if you ask me. Keep your fingers crossed for my buddy.

reef_enthusiast
08/26/2009, 09:53 AM
Sorry to hear about your misfortune recently. You know how the saying goes...when it rains it pours :rolleyes:

Ever since I got into the hobby, PBT have always been my favorite fish. I really hope your PBT makes a complete recovery.

good luck.

sanababit
08/26/2009, 10:00 AM
good luck

sana

CyanoMagnet
08/26/2009, 01:54 PM
Hey guys please help me. I am considering force feeding the fish.

Its trying to get food, but when it strikes it misses. Its in bad shape.

I have a couple of questions. I caught the fish, and put it in a little overflow in the sump, I have fresh tank water coming in but the size of the hing it pretty small, like 8 inches long, 6 inches deep 3 inches wide. He has fresh water being siphoned from the main tank which then overflows into the sump.

Has anyone force fed fish before? How long can I keep him in here to recover? Will he die because he doesnt have enough space to swim for a few days?

TrojanScott
08/26/2009, 02:11 PM
I'm sorry to hear about your fish. I'm shocked you've kept that fish for that long in a 72g tank. I'm not a tang police advocate at all, but that's just way too small for that type of tang, IMO.

No way to force feed a fish, sorry. If there is, it's new to me.
You put him in a smaller area, same system water? Unless someone is picking on him, I'm not sure how that's going to help. I'd think it's just stressing him out even more. Sadly, it sounds like your fish is dying. I'd put him back in the display, unless you have a seperate quarantine you can use, and hope for the best.

CyanoMagnet
08/26/2009, 02:15 PM
You never heard of forcefeeding fish?

Its been done plenty of times, I just need some tips. I already force fed him the first concoction, he spit most of it out but deffinetaly swallowed some. He is not fargone enough where he is done for.

He is also 1 of 3 fish in the 72 gallon and is not the biggest fish in the world.

TrojanScott
08/26/2009, 02:42 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15598103#post15598103 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by CyanoMagnet
You never heard of forcefeeding fish?

Its been done plenty of times, I just need some tips. I already force fed him the first concoction, he spit most of it out but deffinetaly swallowed some. He is not fargone enough where he is done for.

He is also 1 of 3 fish in the 72 gallon and is not the biggest fish in the world.

Nope, sorry, never had any experience doing it. I'm assuming the only way would be with a fish that's barely moving and putting a piece of food directly into it's mouth. Maybe with a turkey baster? In my experience, if a fish is THAT far gone, it's done for. (most times anyways) Especially a delicate fish like a PBT.

Again, not saying keeping a tang in a 72 is something that can't be done, but THAT type of tang, who NEEDS the swimming room because they are so active, anything less than a 6 foot tank is a bad idea. A yellow, a Kole, sure, but a PBT? I don't care if it's the ONLY fish in your tank, that's really pushing it. I'm surprised more people haven't commented on it. Congrats for keeping it that long, hope it pulls through for you.

CyanoMagnet
08/26/2009, 03:20 PM
Sigh he died.

1st my hippo who i had for 5 years and now this one who i got right around the same time both died within a few months of each other. Both completely preventable deaths.

TrojanScott
08/26/2009, 03:45 PM
Very sorry to hear. Obviously, you had some water quality issues because of your mishap, but I'd think twice about keeping a Powder Blue in that size tank. I kept a hippo in an 80 for NINE years, before it just got to big and I got rid of it, so don't get me wrong, I'm NOT a tang policeman. But a Powder Blue is a different animal. They require a LOT of swimming room, and are very very active.

Sorry to hear about your fish though, seriously, that sucks. PBT's are beautiful fish.