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copps
09/02/2009, 08:00 PM
Of the ten known Genicanthus species, six are now regularly attainable (fairly at least) in our hobby... thanks now to the readdition of Genicanthus caudovittatus coming now out of Sumatra... Of these "obtainable six", by far my favorite is Genicanthus semifasciatus... the Japanese masked angel... I've owned a pair now for a while in my sps display... these are not necessarily expensive, but are rare to find in good condition... only coming from the Phillipines and never in large numbers... much more common and widely distributed, yet still beautiful, is Genicanthus melanospilos... known as the swallowtail angel... or the Zebra angel as a male... These species have been known to hybridize, yet never have I seen a small, or female, image of one... but now not only do I have my own images... I have my own little girl... :) Check her out... a small Genicanthus semifasciatus/melanospilos hybrid... my "semi" semifasciatus... :D

http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx114/johnjcoppolino/geni_hybrid2.jpg

http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx114/johnjcoppolino/geni_hybrid.jpg

Of course... I need a key shot... :)

http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx114/johnjcoppolino/geni_hybrid3.jpg

Below is a shot of my full G. semifasciatus female...

http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx114/johnjcoppolino/Genicanthus_semifasciatus_female1.jpg

Below is a small shot of Peter's (SDguy) female melanospilos female...

http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx114/johnjcoppolino/Genicanthus_melanospilos_female_Pet.jpg

Notice all fo the intermediates in the hybrid... the facial coloration... the yellow dorsal region... and what is very cool is the intermediate caudal peduncle... complete on one side and broken up on the other! :)

Copps

copps
09/02/2009, 08:02 PM
Below is a shot of my male G. semifasciatus...

http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx114/johnjcoppolino/Genicanthus_semifasciatus_male.jpg

And a couple of shots of them feeding in the display...

http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx114/johnjcoppolino/180_4.jpg

http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx114/johnjcoppolino/180_3.jpg

tcmfish
09/02/2009, 08:11 PM
The caudal peduncle is very interesting!! And that male is sweet! Never noticed that greenish tint on their face before.

SDguy
09/02/2009, 08:25 PM
Wow wow wow! The yellow around the eyes and mouth is really fascinating! Almost a bit of male coloration...

mandynm
09/02/2009, 08:36 PM
Gorgeous. I'm not sure how you get anything done. I would have to be drug away from looking at all of your tanks. :)

cas
09/02/2009, 08:45 PM
Copps you are turning me ito a big fan of angels. Keep the pics coming.

Mathfreak71
09/02/2009, 09:16 PM
Copps you have another wonderful fish!!

On a side note, I was flipping through available movies on my Roku and there was an IMAX movie "Coral Reef Adventure". My 4 year old loves nature shows so we watched it. As I am sure you know Rich Pyle is featured in the film. It was great to feel a connection as minor as it might be to the movie. It is the ability of normal joes like me to have access to "fish nerds" like you that make this site a truly valuable experience.

Thanks for sharing your experiences and knowledge with the rest of us!

pookstreet
09/02/2009, 10:18 PM
Beautiful, John. Another amazing specimen. I am still hunting for that perfect pair of G. semifaciatus, my holy grail of Genicanthus angels :D It seems the male is almost impossible to track down.

How well do your Genicanthus angels play with the other pygmy and large angels? Much aggression one way or the other? Eventually, I'll be adding some to the 300 that already has 3 pairs of Genicanthus.

Outerbank
09/03/2009, 12:13 AM
Man, that is a beautiful pair!

HomeSlizzice
09/03/2009, 01:59 AM
Nice!

Jacob D
09/03/2009, 09:09 AM
Nice fish John. Did this one come from BZ by any chance? I saw a similar fish there and the thought crossed my mind.

I've been scrounging around for some semifasciatus, had a shot at a harem but my tank wasn't ready and had to pass. Since then no luck. Definitely agree they're not easy to come by. If you have a source for them that isn't necessarily expensive I would love to know it ;)

coralite
09/03/2009, 03:59 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15640420#post15640420 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by copps
Below is a shot of my male G. semifasciatus...

http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx114/johnjcoppolino/Genicanthus_semifasciatus_male.jpg

And a couple of shots of them feeding in the display...

http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx114/johnjcoppolino/180_4.jpg

http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx114/johnjcoppolino/180_3.jpg

John, your reef tank is amazing, how do you keep so many fish in there? I love that male semifasciatus as well, what a cool fish.

tcmfish
09/03/2009, 04:45 PM
Are you going to put it in a different tank than your pair in hopes that it will turn male?

Korrine
09/03/2009, 06:34 PM
wow very impressive.

mdrc
09/03/2009, 08:47 PM
that would be really cool to see what it would look like if it turned male.......its still an amazing fish as a female...i am continually floored by the fish you have copps

Bonta
09/03/2009, 10:30 PM
I love your fish selection.

Sugar Magnolia
09/04/2009, 08:05 AM
Absolutely beautiful John!

lombard0
09/04/2009, 08:18 AM
Love the male genicanthus. I was wondering if you can keep a harem of these guys just like the dwarf angels.

copps
09/04/2009, 09:49 AM
Thank you all! Sharing my passion with you guys is always a joy... and thanks for the compliments on my system and the semifasciatus pair, but this hybrid is a very unique fish! :)

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15641182#post15641182 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by pookstreet
Beautiful, John. Another amazing specimen. I am still hunting for that perfect pair of G. semifaciatus, my holy grail of Genicanthus angels :D It seems the male is almost impossible to track down.

How well do your Genicanthus angels play with the other pygmy and large angels? Much aggression one way or the other? Eventually, I'll be adding some to the 300 that already has 3 pairs of Genicanthus.

My holy grail would be G. semicinctus... Frank of RCT has taken some beautiful shots of them at Lord Howe... here is the male (http://www.bluereefphoto.net/p494081499/h26410cab#h26410cab) and here is the female (http://www.bluereefphoto.net/p494081499/h20058222#h20058222). Of course, all Genicanthus fans have to read this thread too (http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1234494). The aggression of the Genicanthus angels with the other genera of angels is next to nothing... adding a new Genicanthus is a different story... be careful with this...

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15644859#post15644859 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tcmfish
Are you going to put it in a different tank than your pair in hopes that it will turn male?

Yes, this fish will probably go into a 292 fish only, where it will be the only Genicanthus...

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15647925#post15647925 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by lombard0
Love the male genicanthus. I was wondering if you can keep a harem of these guys just like the dwarf angels.

Yes... Genicanthus form harems and can be kept that way in aquariums if done right with space...

pookstreet
09/04/2009, 10:31 AM
Now those are serious holy grail fish, for people with deep pockets :) For me, I have to be realistic. Like you, it's hard taking food out of my two kids' mouths and tell them "Daddy has to buy this fish, so........." :lol: We get our fixes however we can.

If and when I do get my dirty paws on some nice G. semifaciatus, I may get rid of the a couple pairs currently in the tank. But I would have to keep the G. watanabei b/c of sentimental reason.

copps
09/04/2009, 10:36 AM
Hey... I can dream can't I? :) semicinctus have never been available anyway... so deep pockets do not matter...

pookstreet
09/04/2009, 11:03 AM
Yes, indeed. We all have big dreams. My current dream is to get one of my fish to start eating. However, my 5 year old son has a much loftier dream. He wants to be an astronaut baker :lol:

roktsintst
09/04/2009, 02:07 PM
John, what size tank is the picture in your avatar?

copps
09/04/2009, 02:13 PM
That's a 180... it was feeding time so all of the fish were congregating... :)

mdrc
09/04/2009, 11:20 PM
if you ever get a pair of G. semicinctus. first i would be so envious of you. then id find a way to make them my own..........but you do have an awesome tank......keep the pics coming....have you added "her" to the tank?

copps
09/04/2009, 11:43 PM
Chris, you realize you live in the one city in the US to have displayed Genicanthus semicinctus there at the Dallas World Aquarium... not sure if they're still alive, but they got permits to collect at Lord Howe for their Lord Howe exhibit...

I have not moved the new fish yet... a few more weeks left in QT monitoring progress and treating appropriately...

mdrc
09/05/2009, 10:56 PM
i've heard about that, and really wish i could of seen them....right now in there lord howe the just have conspics angels, Mccullochi and latezonatus clownfish.... but they do have a very cool quad of semifaciatus in there japan exibiyt along with a nice nice wroght iron b/f..the dallas world aquarium isnt the greatest as far a showyness...but if you take your time and really walk through there youll see some fish youll prob. never see anywhere eles. kinda like your house copps.....
have you ever heard of geni angels breeding in aquariums?

HOBrien
01/02/2010, 06:30 PM
Any updates on this hybrid?

Iwishihadgills
01/03/2010, 02:20 AM
Beautiful ! Where do you get all your beautiful angels from? Do you order them from overseas?