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matt880305
10/20/2009, 06:50 PM
what can you use around the house to lower ph?
matt880305
10/20/2009, 06:51 PM
sry meant lower
Toddrtrex
10/20/2009, 07:07 PM
What is your current pH?
What are your Cal, Alk and Mag levels? (( They are going to play a role in your pH levels ))
matt880305
10/20/2009, 07:46 PM
well this isnt my tank this is the stores ph that my gf works at. it is a fish only system. so i dont know if she can get cal, alk, and mag levels but i will ask
matt880305
10/20/2009, 07:50 PM
confirmed they dont have a test kit that tests any of them and manager wont write one off
matt880305
10/21/2009, 12:19 AM
bump
PRDubois
10/21/2009, 12:25 AM
Saltwater:
Baking Soda (Arm & Hammer) Lowers PH
Baked Baking Soda - Raises PH
Baked Baking soda is just that Bake it in the oven on some foil for 1 hr @ 350
Michael
10/21/2009, 12:33 AM
im appalled, a lfs has a tank up and running and doesnt want to open a test kit to confirm parameters, huh, i wouldnt shop there, whats the current ph level, or are they not too bothered about knowing really?
PRDubois
10/21/2009, 12:37 AM
I agree, but didn't bother going there. Is it a Petco? or Petsmart? The Manager should be fired.
Michael
10/21/2009, 12:42 AM
The Manager should be fired.
yeah for sure
matt880305
10/21/2009, 12:48 AM
I agree, but didn't bother going there. Is it a Petco? or Petsmart? The Manager should be fired.
neither pet supplies plus. yea thats what we all say..
PRDubois
10/21/2009, 12:48 AM
Since all his tanks are probally hooked together. He could probally buy a PH monitor and get off cheeper in the long run. As a LFS his main concerns will be temp and PH. Thats why I bought a controller. I was too lazy to check the PH all the time. Controller makes it easy. Employees wont be waisting test kits by testing too much.
matt880305
10/21/2009, 12:49 AM
oh and ph is 8.8
matt880305
10/21/2009, 12:52 AM
how much should be added?
PRDubois
10/21/2009, 12:54 AM
So your answer is Baking Soda or (Smoke in the store to raise the CO2)
PRDubois
10/21/2009, 12:55 AM
Supplement Calculator
http://home.comcast.net/~jdieck1/chem_calc3.html
matt880305
10/21/2009, 01:00 AM
So your answer is Baking Soda or (Smoke in the store to raise the CO2)
haha i guess the word is is that there are only 3 employees that dont smoke haha
matt880305
10/21/2009, 01:04 AM
Supplement Calculator
http://home.comcast.net/~jdieck1/chem_calc3.html
cant find anything about ph and baking soda on here
PRDubois
10/21/2009, 01:05 AM
Here is a easier way:
A. Direct addition of carbon dioxide: Bottled soda water (seltzer) can be used to instantly reduce an aquarium's pH. Be sure to select unflavored soda water, and check its ingredients to be sure it doesn't contain anything that should be avoided (phosphate, etc.). Many manufacturers list water and carbon dioxide as the only ingredients.
I recommend adding 6 mL of soda water per gallon of tank water to reduce pH by about 0.3 units. Add it to a high flow area away from organisms (such as in a sump). The local pH where it first is added will be very low. Going about this procedure slowly is better than proceeding too fast. If you do not have a sump, add it especially slowly. Some soda water may have more or less carbon dioxide in it than others, and the lower the aquarium's alkalinity, the more the pH will drop. Also, the higher the pH, the less the pH will drop, because seawater's buffering capability declines steadily as the pH drops from about 9 to 7.5.
Also have GF read this:
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2007-05/rhf/index.php
And everything here:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1031074
matt880305
10/21/2009, 01:19 AM
Thanks PRDubois great links also
PRDubois
10/21/2009, 01:21 AM
They are the stickies from the Waterkeeper at the top of this section. ALL new reefers should read thru all the articles. After all what better things do you have to do while your new rock cycles.
matt880305
10/21/2009, 01:30 AM
yea true, right now is the time to think of all the things you are going to get for your tank when it is done cycling.
Randy Holmes-Farley
10/21/2009, 07:18 AM
As long as alkalinity is not through the roof, pH will not get high enough to require anything be done about it unless you are dosing high pH additives, especially limewater.
IMO, that pH 8.8 is in error. Most high pH issues in the absence of limewater are pH measurement error. If it were real, aeration alone will bring it down.
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