......Anybody have sharks?.......

[Xgame2k]

Just wanted to know what people have and/or can get.

Pix?

[Korrine]

I know of one who has sharks. Has a wobbegong.

[jd474]

bamboos, banded cat sharks, epaulettes, and wobeys are all in the trade. they are pretty sedentary animals, but still eventually get large (~36" and 8' for the wobeygongs).

[LobsterOfJustice]

FO and aggressive forum would be a better place to ask.

[n8ureman]

Are you hoping to have them in a reef? I tried several years back with bamboo (both banded, and spotted), and Epaulette sharks .They were very destructive and not at all suited for a reef. (they ate everything [LPS corals, tubeworms,snails] that was even remotely edible)As well as knocked over the rockwork sometimes while feeding.After that (when they got tooo big and luckily I found a home for them) I tried the marbled cat sharks, and though thet were way better mannered they were still quite destructive. IME, IMO definitely FOWLR material.

[Xgame2k]

My plans are FOWLR and some grass's. I am hoping to find somebody that can get any small brown smooth hounds, chain catsharks, short tail nurses, cobbler or wards wobbegongs and leopard sharks.

[IFbettas]

How big would the tank be?

[Xgame2k]

Large enough. That is not an issue.

[Xgame2k]

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[IFbettas]

Large enough. That is not an issue.

I was just curious. I love hearing about large tanks.

[kentrob11]

How large is "large enough"? I used to have a pair of leopards and could chime in if you're willing to give a little more info...

[Xgame2k]

I know how large my tank needs to be allready and I don't need another tank discussion, but thanx. How long ago did you have them and can you get more?

[rort]

To be honest, sharks should truly not be in hobby of keeping as pets. Through research and in depth discussions with leaders in the field of Chondrichthyes and specifically Elasmobranchii, they are not suitable to live at home aquariums as USUAL homes cannot house a 1,000 gallon tank. That is why we have them at public aquariums.

They are in the hobby, but they shouldn't be. We do not know enough about their natural habits to provide them with the best care that they need.

Through this hobby we already affect the marine ecosystem enough, but to take out a high level consumer from its complex habitat and attempt to keep it in your house to... feed... to look at? And what happens when it does reach 8'? I guarantee you that no aquariums will take it and being in Arizona, where will you eventually release it?

They are beautiful creatures that should be left in the ocean, like many fish in this hobby!

(I know I am probably speaking to a crowd that doesn't want to hear this, but think about the impact you are making when buying a SHARK! its not a dog...)

[extreme5450]

Large enough. That is not an issue.

Doubt it

[Tylt33]

Doubt it

+1 Biosharkcube

[Xgame2k]

Doubt it

You dont know me or my situation. The tank or what you think about sharks is not a concern. Dont get of topic people!

[saix88]

You dont know me or my situation. The tank or what you think about sharks is not a concern. Dont get of topic people!

If your going to seriously have a tank that size to house sharks then wouldn't you already have some sense of what sharks there are in the market instead of asking a forum....Also sharks come in different sizes, so how can we suggest some if you can't even tell us what size tank you have?
:blown:

ROFL after finding out you're naturally a dick and you have a 550 gallon tank...No you will not have to spend a grand or two on a shark...you can only have a bamboo shark.

For someone that doesn't like to beat around the bush...

[username in use]

I think it is 450, and yeah, thats not really enough to do much in terms of sharks. If your thinking of something really cool like a black tip (which one of my LFS's has and I cant imagine anyone being able to house them long term) you need a 20ft tank that is 10-15ft deep and about 6 feet tall, which maybe 2 people in the country do. So, get yourself a bamboo, 1, and be done with it. And next time somebody asks you what size tank you have, dont get snippy, and rude, just tell them so they can make an educated response to your question. Or did you already try this in the aggressive and FO forum and get chased out when you told them?

[Dante_JoseCuerv]

I think it is 450, and yeah, thats not really enough to do much in terms of sharks. If your thinking of something really cool like a black tip (which one of my LFS's has and I cant imagine anyone being able to house them long term) you need a 20ft tank that is 10-15ft deep and about 6 feet tall, which maybe 2 people in the country do. So, get yourself a bamboo, 1, and be done with it. And next time somebody asks you what size tank you have, dont get snippy, and rude, just tell them so they can make an educated response to your question. Or did you already try this in the aggressive and FO forum and get chased out when you told them?

Good words

@OP
I second the motion to post this in the aggressive/fish only forum, might get more/better feedback there.

[Xgame2k]

Not being a dick, just asking a simple question. Drop what you guys are talking about and get back on topic. I never said I was going to keep one of the larger species for life. If It will get you from throwing another thread away then I have a 450 right now, which I know for fact that anything on my list will be good in it for 2 to 3 years and I will be building the largest tank I can in my new house which will be around 800 to 1500 depending on the species I can get.

[saix88]

Not being a dick, just asking a simple question. Drop what you guys are talking about and get back on topic. I never said I was going to keep one of the larger species for life.

Then why keep it at all?

[Xgame2k]

The only one that will growout my tank would be the leopard and they look really nice.

[Xgame2k]

Good words

@OP
I second the motion to post this in the aggressive/fish only forum, might get more/better feedback there.

This thread is not about tanks, it's about fish.

[username in use]

Could you give us the list of sharks that you were thinking about, and possible dimensions for the tank that you are thinking of, and we can discuss it with a little more idea of whats possible.

[Xgame2k]

Like I said, I know what is possible and I allready listed many species. 10 to 15 feet long 3 to 4 feet wide (maybe wider depending on species I get) and 2.5 to 3 ft tall. Just want to see others sharks and what they can get.

[JamesJR]

Not being a dick, just asking a simple question. Drop what you guys are talking about and get back on topic. I never said I was going to keep one of the larger species for life. If It will get you from throwing another thread away then I have a 450 right now, which I know for fact that anything on my list will be good in it for 2 to 3 years and I will be building the largest tank I can in my new house which will be around 800 to 1500 depending on the species I can get.

You should buy fish for the tank you have not what plan on getting in the future. Stuff happens and if you are stuck with a shark I can promise you there will not be many people who will be able to take it off your hands.

[jd474]

i'd agree with everyone else in saying you don't have, and aren't going to have adequate room (and probably filtration) for what you want. but since you're incessant about it, give dynasty marine a call, and they can get you up to a full-grown sandbar shark if you really want one. you're gonna pay a premium for whatever you buy from them, though.

[Xgame2k]

i'd agree with everyone else in saying you don't have, and aren't going to have adequate room (and probably filtration) for what you want. but since you're incessant about it, give dynasty marine a call, and they can get you up to a full-grown sandbar shark if you really want one. you're gonna pay a premium for whatever you buy from them, though.

k i will.

[forddna]

This thread is not about tanks, it's about fish.

That's like saying lighting is irrelevant to coral discussion. :rolleye1:

[Xgame2k]

That's like saying lighting is irrelevant to coral discussion. :rolleye1:
No it is different. I stated exactly what i wanted to know and talk about. Sharks you have or what you can get. Not systems, opinions, etc.....just facts!


!DE-de-De?

[forddna]

Yes sir, Mr. Hitler sir!

[Xgame2k]

Ha.. people are just making me mad, ruining another thread.

[Robka]

+1 on Rort's comment these fish are better left in the wild.

Hopefully you don't find yourself swimming in the ocean very often because Karma is a ***** and it would be appropriate for a Tiger or Great White to treat you like you are going to treat their cousins;)

Have a nice day,

Robka

[Xgame2k]

+1 on Rort's comment these fish are better left in the wild.

Hopefully you don't find yourself swimming in the ocean very often because Karma is a ***** and it would be appropriate for a Tiger or Great White to treat you like you are going to treat their cousins;)

Have a nice day,

Robka

Same goes for all fish. And i dont believe in that nonsense (karma) anyway. ha

[JamesJR]

This thread should be shut down.

[Xgame2k]

yeap.

[kentrob11]

OK...Here are your facts based on PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.

1. Any and all Nurse sharks get WAY to big for our home aquariums. No if's and's or but's about it. Even a 2000 gallon tank will not come close to being big enough to keep it healthy for long and if fed properly(not alot, just properly) they grow quick. This goes the same for wobbegongs....

2. Leopards (I used to have 2) are neat sharks but are illegal to harvest under 3 ft and your 450 will not be large enough for one that size. When they reach maturity at 5-6 ft, (and they WILL if they are healthy), they'll outgrow even your future proposed tank.

3. Brown and grey smoothhounds are cool also but have a very poor survival record in home aquariums and again, your 450 would be too small even at the beginning.

4. Catsharks and Epaulettes would be your best bet but of course they don't have the open water "cool" factor. I personally like port jackson sharks. They don't get too big and may do well in the tank you have planned for the future.

Any free swimming open water sharks are going to need a tank several times larger than the one you are proposing in the future. The idea sounds neat in concept until you spend all the money to build and set it up and you end up with something that closely resembles a jar with bumblebees in it: Sure they're neat looking but they don't move naturally due to the confined space and therefore aren't anywhere near as cool as you think they would be. Trust me...There's a very valid reason why you will be very hard pressed to find anyone keeping these animals. The ones that do either have a near swimming pool sized system to keep them in or haven't had them very long and don't talk about that part of it.

[Xgame2k]

Your wrong on the nurses, leopards and smooth hounds. Short-tails 2.5 ft max. Leopards can be legal if from mexico or canada and smoothounds can live in a 450 for around 3 years and have a friends tank and smoothies to prove this and his is more on the warm side, i will have a oversized chiller. Like i said i don't need information on sharks as I know enough. Thanx for wasting my time and killing another thread even though i know you all had good intentions.

[kentrob11]

LOL...OK. Have fun with your sharks. If you know so much about them then why bother asking here? Ask your "friend" where he got his sharks or go to Mexico or Canada.

AND

You specifically stated before that we weren't talking about tanks...We're talking about sharks. So which is it?

[JamesJR]

troll

[Xgame2k]

You decided to talk tanks by talking about something you don't know. I don't need to know anything more about them and didn't ask. '''''I wanted to know what people have or can get.''''''' Sound that sentence out real slow-like so you get it into your head.

[forddna]

Like i said i don't need information on sharks as I know enough.

If you don't want info on tanks or sharks, what is it you want info on?

[Robka]

Same goes for all fish. And i dont believe in that nonsense (karma) anyway. ha

If you truly believe that all fish are equal then you are really showing your ignorance. You probably think a Toy poodle and a Great Dane have the same care requirements. Good luck with your shark killing.

Peace out:wildone:

[Xgame2k]

No info just facts. What sharks people have in their personal tanks and/or what species of sharks they can get their hands on.

[Toddrtrex]

Xgame2k --- I strongly suggest that you lose the attitude.

[Xgame2k]

If you truly believe that all fish are equal then you are really showing your ignorance. You probably think a Toy poodle and a Great Dane have the same care requirements. Good luck with your shark killing.

Peace out:wildone:

You already said "have a nice day" you cant come back for seconds!

[Luiz Rocha]

http://mahopa.de/bilder/funny-forum-pictures/why-did-i-click.jpg

[Xgame2k]

Xgame2k --- I strongly suggest that you lose the attitude.

Blah.

[Toddrtrex]

Blah.

After reading just a few of your other posts, I don't see you being around all that long. So, keep up the attitude, it will make life easier on everyone.

[Xgame2k]

Seems like i stir up many issues with my threads. geez people. Read and stay on topic. The end.

Post your pics, sharks you have and sharks you can get. But for now I will stay away from this madness.

[kentrob11]

Putz. Nobody has em due to all of the reasons stated above! That isn't clear yet??

[BrianD]

Closed. Do not start another thread on this topic.