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IFbettas
11/16/2009, 06:45 PM
I am putting 2 new 90 gallon reefs attached on the same system of my current main display. My current tank is a 180 gallon reef which has about 10 fish in it right now ( the only wrasses are an exquisite, yellow coris, and sixline). I am wondering if I will be able to keep all of the wrasses listed below between the 3 tanks, and if not which ones to not get.

Mystery
Condei
Flame (maybe pair or trio)
Melanurus
Rhomboid
Red Margined Wrasse (rubrimarginatus)
Yellow Fin Fairy
Labouti
Scotts
Bipartitus Leopard
McCoskers Flasher
Pylei
Radiant
Possum
Lineatus

I know a lot of those wrasses are closely related, so I am wondering how you guys would divide that list up.It will take me a while to save the money to get all of these, so they I couldn't add more than 1 or 2 at a time. Thanks!

lman
11/16/2009, 09:22 PM
I have the following in my 300 gallon:
Mystery
Red tail tamerins (trio)
Flame (pair)
Rhomboid
Red Margined Wrasse (rubrimarginatus)
Labouti
Scotts
Lineatus

Be careful how you add them. The flames are timid and the Scott's can be a bully. My Scott's decides he is the boss about once a week and is put in his place. When I add new wrasses I put them in a small container in the tank to get the fish used to the new comer. Seems to work. Make sure you have a covering on the tank. My wrasses jump about once a week and the covering keeps them in the tank.

iamwrasseman
11/16/2009, 09:47 PM
yes you can but get a good plan on the order of purchases and a couple need a deep sand area to sleep in .

IFbettas
11/16/2009, 10:08 PM
yes you can but get a good plan on the order of purchases and a couple need a deep sand area to sleep in .

Which out of the list are the most aggressive? I'm guessing the mystery should be the last of them to go in.

One of the 90's will have a 4 inch sand bed for the radiant and melanurus wrasses and my jawfish.

wrasseguy2
11/17/2009, 09:20 AM
Which out of the list are the most aggressive? I'm guessing the mystery should be the last of them to go in.

One of the 90's will have a 4 inch sand bed for the radiant and melanurus wrasses and my jawfish.

the mystery should be the last and the scotts fairy could be a problem as well they tend to be one of the most aggressive fairys and most times will chase and kill any other fairy in the tank with it

Urchinhead
11/17/2009, 09:56 AM
Scott's followed by Mystery in my experience. Make sure you only have one super(terminal) male in each of the tanks.

Having had 7 wrasse of which six were fairy's in my tank including a mystery and supermale Rhomboid I found the best way to keep aggression down was by feeding the tank very heavily. As if I had a tank full of Anthias. Some other things you can do is turn off the lights in the tank for a few days when I added a new fish so the new guy had a chance to get used to the tank and/or rearrange your rockwork so that the territory button is reset.

itachi
11/17/2009, 01:16 PM
Scott's followed by Mystery in my experience. Make sure you only have one super(terminal) male in each of the tanks.

Having had 7 wrasse of which six were fairy's in my tank including a mystery and supermale Rhomboid I found the best way to keep aggression down was by feeding the tank very heavily. As if I had a tank full of Anthias. Some other things you can do is turn off the lights in the tank for a few days when I added a new fish so the new guy had a chance to get used to the tank and/or rearrange your rockwork so that the territory button is reset.

I would agree with this comment above. I have a very similar tank ( 240G ) loaded with wrasses and anthias.. I've avoided both the scotts and mystery because of the aggression. Although my male corris wrasse isn't very nice. Recently my female rhomboid turned male and got chased to the point of disapearing from the super male rhomboid =( . But i've noticed having a very busy tank from the anthias takes out most of the territorial aggression from the fish . ( over 25 anthias)

IFbettas
11/17/2009, 05:16 PM
Maybe I'll just go without the Scott's wrasse. If I do get one I'll put him in the 180 where there are more fish to spread the aggression.

Thanks for the good info guys!

iamwrasseman
11/17/2009, 09:02 PM
mystery and scotts here also but i would definatly keep the mystery if you are going to choose between the two . the scotts usually become skiddish and hurt themselves and die from their wounds or from their way of jumping through the smallest of holes in the top .

muhnandr
11/17/2009, 09:38 PM
Any pics?

iamwrasseman
11/17/2009, 10:32 PM
me ?

itachi
11/18/2009, 02:21 AM
pics? me ?

IFbettas
11/18/2009, 05:23 PM
mystery and scotts here also but i would definatly keep the mystery if you are going to choose between the two . the scotts usually become skiddish and hurt themselves and die from their wounds or from their way of jumping through the smallest of holes in the top .

Thanks for the advice! I'm not too worried about jumpers because I'm keeping the tank covered with 1/4 inch bird netting. I'll still stay away from the scotts wrasse though.

iamwrasseman
11/18/2009, 08:17 PM
enjoy ! wrasses are the coolest , just my opinion.

ReefiusMaxiumus
11/18/2009, 08:23 PM
enjoy ! wrasses are the coolest , just my opinion.

between the tang and wrasse family, i don't need any other fish

iamwrasseman
11/18/2009, 08:25 PM
:dance:now yer talking !:lol:

IFbettas
11/18/2009, 08:56 PM
enjoy ! wrasses are the coolest , just my opinion.

I definately agree! That's why I'm setting up two new tanks that are going to be for just wrasses and maybe a tang or two!

iamwrasseman
11/18/2009, 09:44 PM
awesome ! good ta hear theres some other wrasse lovers out there . i have 45ish right now and im always looking for more and more and more and more ! lol

29reef
11/18/2009, 09:46 PM
I have found that getting a group of 3 or more young wrasses and letting them form their own group will allow for heavier stocking with less agression. Be familiar with the species your buying and know the difference between a female, male, and a non dominant male coloration.

I suggest you remove the scotts and labouti because of agression. Also be aware of the possums criptic nature, they are a very interesting fish.

TRBOFISH
11/18/2009, 11:29 PM
For all those experienced wrasse keepers out there. I was wondering what you think is the best way to introduce new wrasse's to each other is? Unless of course you were able to add them all at once! I'm really looking for reef safe wrasses.

IFbettas
11/18/2009, 11:46 PM
i have 45ish right now and im always looking for more and more and more and more ! lol

That's my dream! lol

and someday a choati leopard...

IFbettas
11/19/2009, 12:03 AM
Any thoughts on replacing the scotts wrasse with a cirrhilabrus tonozukai? Would that be a better choice?

iamwrasseman
11/19/2009, 07:46 PM
i would introduce them and turn off the lights at the same time also being sure that the others are well fed before the introduction . never feed for the first day and be sure and be wise to each wrasses and their requirements before you purchase .

wrasseguy2
11/19/2009, 10:43 PM
Any thoughts on replacing the scotts wrasse with a cirrhilabrus tonozukai? Would that be a better choice?

the tonos is also known to be pretty aggressive also

IFbettas
11/19/2009, 11:03 PM
the tonos is also known to be pretty aggressive also

Do you think I'd be ok putting one in my 180 reef that has mostly bigger tangs and butterflies? There aren't any really peaceful fish in there except for a banggai cardinal who I am going to be removing for breeding purposes.

IFbettas
11/19/2009, 11:04 PM
never feed for the first day .

Just wondering, why shouldn't I feed for the first day? I'm assuming its just to give the fish a break from stress, but want to make sure.