Can We play Again?? Fish ID game???

[myerst2]

I know it got exhausted, but with the revamp of the site, thought maybe we'd have another go. I believe coralite is the bobby fisher of the game. I'll begin. Easy goes it at first. Rules for those who have not seen the prior one. Post a pic of a fish, "lets start with full shots intially" and the first to get it right gets to post a pic of a fish. T
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/DSC_0185-efcfe.jpg

[DFS]

Pseudanthias bicolor

[tcmfish]

Oh boy. Let the games begin!

[Recty]

Pseudanthias bicolor Now you're supposed to post the picture of the next fish, or do we have to wait for myerst to say if you are correct or not?

[ShrimpChipGal]

Pseudanthias bicolor

I agree that it is probably a Hawaiin bicolor anthia. The fish in this video looks very similar. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJo6eUQxk44

[tcmfish]

Kevin is busy, he knows the rules.

[mikeBurchett]

Wow! Impressive fish. Where can I buy one of those?

[Luiz Rocha]

Alright, since Kevin is busy I will post one, no shortage of photos here :)

http://www.luizrocha.com/fish/Acanthurus1.jpg

[DFS]

I was actually trying to play by the rules and wait for Myerst2 to respond with the answer as he posted the image.

[Luiz Rocha]

Ah, nvm then ;)

[DFS]

No worries Luiz,
Your image is a good one for this game! Based on the solid black eye, caudal fin edge of thin white as opposed to a thicker band of yellow in Acanthurus pyroferus, and the white rounded patch directly below the operculum as opposed to a white horizontal bar, I would say your fish is and adult Acanthurus tristis photographed somewhere in the Indian Ocean?

[kirkaz]

Alright, since Kevin is busy I will post one, no shortage of photos here :)

http://www.luizrocha.com/fish/Acanthurus1.jpg

Acanthurus pyroferus X Acanthurus nigricans?????:hmm2:

[Luiz Rocha]

No worries Luiz,
Your image is a good one for this game! Based on the solid black eye, caudal fin edge of thin white as opposed to a thicker band of yellow in Acanthurus pyroferus, and the white rounded patch directly below the operculum as opposed to a white horizontal bar, I would say your fish is and adult Acanthurus tristis photographed somewhere in the Indian Ocean?

Absolutely right, Acanthurus tristis, photographed in Bali. It's juvenile mimics Centropyge eibli, but I never saw any juvies. Bali is one of the few places where you see both A. tristis and A. pyroferus swimming in the same reef; A. tristis is mostly an Indian Ocean species and A. pyroferus a Pacific species, but they overlap in Bali, Lombok, Java and Christmas Island.

[DFS]

http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/ii326/kkohen_photo/Anthias.jpg

[ShrimpChipGal]

Pseuanthias Aurulentus - another Hawaiian anthia.

What's the rule of this game? Sorry I have never played before.

[DFS]

ShrimpChipGal,
Correct, the Central Pacific Anthias- (Pseudanthias aurulentus) male from the Line Islands.

.....now its your turn to post a picture.

[ShrimpChipGal]

I feel like kind of a cheat on the last one cuz I do have them in my species tank.

Here is one that's even less common:
http://gallery.me.com/leung.anthony/100483/IMG_9254_2/web.jpg?ver=12547211650001

[DFS]

Pseudanthias flavoguttatus from Indonesia

[ShrimpChipGal]

Pseudanthias flavoguttatus from Indonesia

Correct. Beautiful, aren't they? I love the colors on their fins.

[DFS]

Time to make this a bit more challenging. For all of the Labroid fans.
http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/ii326/kkohen_photo/Labroid.jpg

[itachi]

female pylie ?

[ShrimpChipGal]

My guess is Paracheilinus mccoskeri female.

[DFS]

neither

[Cantonesefish]

female C. marjorie?

[DFS]

Its not Cirrhilabrus marjorie.

[Luiz Rocha]

My guess is a juvenile Cirrhilabrus rubriventralis, but I don't have a good wrasse book and these guys are very hard, especially juveniles/females. Give us some clues, location?

[DFS]

Luiz,
Very very close. This fish has a very narrow range, and is endemic to the Sumatra.

[Beaun]

Cirrhilabrus joanallenae?

[Luiz Rocha]

Ah, it was my second guess but I wasn't sure if it was ever in the aquarium trade and I couldn't find any photos of their juveniles. Cirrhilabrus joanallenae?

[Luiz Rocha]

Ah, you beat me Beaun!

[Beaun]

Wouldnt be fair for me to take credit for it since you got the genus, thats half the battle. Plus, I like your pictures Luiz.

[DFS]

Nope but even closer.

[itachi]

maybe Cirrhilabrus tonozukai ?

[DFS]

No that is not it either. Another hint- just like Cirrhilabrus marjorie, this fish is also named after someone's wife.

[LobsterOfJustice]

Female/juvie C. naokoae?

[DFS]

http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/ii326/kkohen_photo/Pair.jpg

You are correct! That was a very difficult one as I havent seen any pictures on the internet of females/juvenile of this species. The image above was a collected pair.

Cheers!

[LobsterOfJustice]

Yeah, I wouldn't have got it without the last hint.

Yoinked this picture off the internet, I don't have a good photo of mine.
http://www.pbcrrt.org/Quiz/PB0163aH.jpg

[Luiz Rocha]

Oh, that one is easy (for me at least since I am so familiar with western Atlantic fish :) ). It's the Belted Sandfish (Serranus subligarius).

[LobsterOfJustice]

Yup. Figured it would be a little difficult because most people here aren't that familiar with Atlantics and I've never seen one for sale, but you proved me wrong!

[Luiz Rocha]

Now let's see you prove me wrong, but I think this one is may be a little difficult:

http://www.luizrocha.com/fish/Wrasse2.jpg

[DFS]

Spotail Coris Wrasse female- (Coris caudimacula) Western Indian Ocean, Red Sea, and Northwest Australian endemic.

[Luiz Rocha]

Exactly... Gonna be hard to find anything that you guys don't know the ID of :)

[HomeSlizzice]

Cool this game again. :bounce3:

[DFS]

Luiz has already seen this fish image I believe but here goes:

http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/ii326/kkohen_photo/R-rectangulus-x-aculeatus_.jpg

[myerst2]

Okay. Kevin. Happy to see the heavy hitters playing and its great that we have Luiz here to play this go round. I am taking the liberty for Kevin. Hope you don't mind. T
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/200902-25-33-d0152833_18505279.jpg

[myerst2]

Huma huma Rectangular

[myerst2]

Wait Assasi hybrid morph

[myerst2]

At first glance nothing special then when you look again what a cool fish. Please give the history about the above fish. Thanks, T Kevin any updates on boylei's?

[DFS]

Myerst2,
Can you provide scientific names?

[Luiz Rocha]

Huma huma Rectangular

I actually enjoy writing down the official Hawaiian common name for this guy:

Humuhumu nukunuku apua'a - Hawaii's State fish

But the rules are scientific names! :) Rhinecanthus rectangulus

That scorpaenid looks very odd, I will look it up!

[Luiz Rocha]

Where is the Rhinecanthus from Kevin? It certainly has some rectangulus in it, but it is a strange morph or hybrid.

[DFS]

Luiz,
You are 1/2 or maybe 2/3 correct, but R. rectangulus do not have a yellow stripe from the mouth to thier pectoral fin, so what other species has that characteristic?

I have never seen a hybrid of these species before in 25 years, and the fish came out of Sumatra.

Cheers,

[joetbs]

I think it has some R. cinereus in it based on the stripes before the caudal, and that fish is endemic to the I.O.

[DFS]

I think between Joe and Luiz you guys pretty much nailed it. The fish surely has the markings of Rhinecanthus rectangulus, the eye bands, head, and yellow face strip of Rhinecanthus aculeatus so it appears to be a hybrid between these two.

Joe does bring up a very valid point that although R. aculeatus has a thin brown band between the first two white stripes running from the anal fin towards the eye, it does appear to have similar characteristics/markings of the super rare R. cinereus.

Could this fish simply be a hybrid between R. rectangulus x R. aculeatus, or is it a multispecies hybrid?

Very unique fish indeed.

Luiz and Joe, I think both of you guys are up.

[Luiz Rocha]

Well, since Joe didn't post a new one, I will. Hope this one is a little bit more of a challenge:

http://www.luizrocha.com/fish/grunt.jpg

[tcmfish]

No pic.

[AuroraDrvr]

Luiz's site is down. The host is likely doing nightly backups/maintenance.

[joetbs]

if i don't get back to this kevin knows the answer...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/joetbs/mini-DSC_0781.jpg

[myerst2]

Do you still have the trigger in your possesion Kevin? If so will it be for sale soon? Hopefully after a long healthy life Luiz can get the opportunity to analyze the DNA of the fish. For anyone that does not know if you have a rare unusual fish that dies Luiz would greatly benefit from have a piece of the fishes fin to test it's DNA. Thanks, T

[jmaneyapanda]

Pteragogus aurigarius?

[DFS]

myerst2,
We still have the Triggerfish, and the plan is to grow him up a bit prior to selling the fish as I am very curious as to what characteristics it takes on as it matures.

I would very much like to take some fin clippings for further DNA research as this fish may be fairly straight forward and a perfect candidate for molecular analysis.

To answer your other question on Paracentropyge boylei we can only hope to keep our fingers crossed that someday soon we will see this incredible fish again.

Cheers,

[joetbs]

Pteragogus aurigarius?

no, but it is a wrasse :dance:

[smb2]

Well, since Joe didn't post a new one, I will. Hope this one is a little bit more of a challenge:




? Smallmouth Grunt Haemulon chrysargyreum ?

[Luiz Rocha]

? Smallmouth Grunt Haemulon chrysargyreum ?

No, but it is a grunt ;)

[espocrespo]

Female/juvie C. naokoae?

damn i'd just seen a pic and remembered this thread, wish i got back to it sooner
:thumbsup:

cuz i new that one, for once :lol:

[Luiz Rocha]

I would very much like to take some fin clippings for further DNA research as this fish may be fairly straight forward and a perfect candidate for molecular analysis.


Hey Kevin, I will send you a PM about this. I would really like to have a sample of this fish. For a complete study I would also need the potential parent species, do you have those or know someone that does? I can potentially collect them, but my next field trip to the Indo-Pacific will only be late spring next year.

[myerst2]

Kevin I give you a ton of credit not selling this fish as is now. Reason being, is that the majority of these morphs will revert to normal coloration that is if it is a morph and not a hybrid. I got dibs in that puppy if and when it comes through! Whos up with the game?

[smb2]

Need the Grunt answer.

[Luiz Rocha]

Need the Grunt answer.

Nobody else wanna guess? ;) I will answer tonight... But here another clue, it is endemic to Brazil.

[Recty]

Haemulon squamipinna, methinks.

[joetbs]

Nobody else wanna guess? ;) I will answer tonight... But here another clue, it is endemic to Brazil.

my fish is from there too if it helps anyone

[Luiz Rocha]

Haemulon squamipinna, methinks.

Yep, you got it! I know what yours is too Joe, but I will not spoil the game trying to answer everything :)

[Recty]

Malacoctenus delalandii? I'm guessing on that one.

Otherwise, is it a type of basslet?

[Luiz Rocha]

Malacoctenus delalandii? I'm guessing on that one.

Otherwise, is it a type of basslet?

Clue #1: family Labridae :)

[Recty]

Hmmm, I was way off.

So maybe a Labrisomus cricota?

[Luiz Rocha]

Labridae = wrasses ;)
Labrisomidae = whole nother thing

[Recty]

I really dont know wrasses well :)

[Recty]

Halichoeres radiatus?

[kinlayan]

anyone guess what this species is? here are two pictures

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/42085951@N06/4117475588/" title="DSC_0031_edited by Kinlayan, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2552/4117475588_00dea3947a.jpg" width="500" height="332" alt="DSC_0031_edited" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/42085951@N06/4120315529/" title="DSC_0035_edited by Kinlayan, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2747/4120315529_1cf772371a.jpg" width="500" height="332" alt="DSC_0035_edited" /></a>

[myerst2]

Man this game is all messed up. We need a fresh start.

[Luiz Rocha]

Hehe, that's what I was thinking :)

Next time post the rules at the start...

[Recty]

I'm trying to guess the one that Luiz hinted at as a Labridae... but the guy who listed it is obviously AFK. Hopefully Luiz chimes in again soon.

[Recty]

Tell you what, I'll start new, I guessed the last one correctly.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i236/Recty/guess.jpg

[myerst2]

As the supreme ruler of this thread, jk I give Recty the go ahead to post a fish if you got one. T

[myerst2]

ow that was creepy......................

[Recty]

It's like we're twins.

But I'm the better looking one ;)

[Luiz Rocha]

Alright, so just to clear things up and start fresh I will give you the two IDs. The wrasse is Doratonotus megalepis, AKA Dwarf Wrasse, and the Anthias above is the Indian Ocean morph of Pseudanthias marcia (I think, not so good with these guys).

Rules: post a pic after you correctly ID a fish :)

[Recty]

My bad, I should have posted a picture after I guessed that one fish, but there was another one trying to be guessed then and I didnt want to just ignore that guy.

So just to avoid ALL confusion...

This is the fish to guess...

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i236/Recty/guess.jpg

[kinlayan]

Wow Luiz , you know your fish! in Scott michaels book he describes it as very similar to marcia but calls it pseudanthias sp 4 - common name reticulated anthias but your description is probably also very close

Sorry i didnt understand the rules but i do now, sorry i messed up the sequence of the game ;(

[Recty]

I'll give a little hint, this fish only gets to 9 cm in length, a little less than 4" to us Americans ;)

[Luiz Rocha]

This is not your everyday damselfish... One question, is it a "normal" fish or some kind of morph or hybrid?

[DFS]

Recty,
A super rare fish due to very specific and limited range the Baldwin's Major- Stegastes baldwini, which are only found around Clipperton Island.

[Recty]

Luiz, it is a "normal" fish, just rare.

Recty,
A super rare fish due to very specific and limited range the Baldwin's Major- Stegastes baldwini, which are only found around Clipperton Island.

Correcto mundo, your turn!

[DFS]

An easy one for the Labroid enthusiasts.

http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/ii326/kkohen_photo/Labroid-1-1.jpg

[tcmfish]

Halichoeres richmondi

[Luiz Rocha]

Recty,
A super rare fish due to very specific and limited range the Baldwin's Major- Stegastes baldwini, which are only found around Clipperton Island.

Haha, good one Kevin, I was sure it was an Stegastes but all my fish books are in the office and I almost guessed it was a morph of Stegastes beebei, which likely is its close relative.

Oh, and I am pretty sure you are correct about the wrasse Tim, your turn!

[tcmfish]

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh67/tm0suprem0/IDit-1.jpg

[Recty]

Looks like a Meiacanthus grammistes!

I'm going to bed, so if I'm right, either post another picture or else post that someone else can do it for me!

[DFS]

Tim,
Correct, The Tail Spot Wrasse, Chain-lined Wrasse or Richmond's Wrasse- Halichoeres richmondi.

Your fish does in fact resemble Meiacanthus grammistes but the mouthful of eggs gives it away as its a member of the family Apogonidae. This incredible fish is called the Blackline Cardinalfish (Cheilodipterus nigrotaeniatus). Unlike most Cardinalfish that are more reclusive these fishes mimic the Striped Fangblenny (Meiacanthus grammistes), and the Fangblenny Mimic (Petroscirtes breviceps), and they act like them as well. The fishes can normally be found out in the open hanging out in the water column.

[DFS]

I am off to work so pardon me Tim if I am incorrect on the species ID.

To keep the game going today here is the next fish. I will do my best to keep checking back, but Joe should be familiar with this species and can stand in for me if I cannot get back to RC in a timely manner.

http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/ii326/kkohen_photo/Dragonet.jpg

[tcmfish]

Yup way to go!

[tcmfish]

I'm going to guess:

Callionymus calcaratus

[joetbs]

that is a synonym of the genus so still correct. the valid genus is Repomucenus.

[tcmfish]

Here's an easy one:


http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh67/tm0suprem0/TN_Pompar_Athila_CMYK_detalhe.jpg

[Iwishihadgills]

juvenile Pomacanthus paru

[tcmfish]

Yes.

[Iwishihadgills]

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t4/rothincali/Ctenochaetusflavicauda.jpg

:)

[Recty]

Ctenochaetus flavicauda with a cleaner attached. It's really easy to tell when the picture is called Ctenochaetusflavicauda.jpg ;)

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i236/Recty/guess2.jpg

[tcmfish]

Emblemaria hypacanthus, first one to post a new pick can.

[Recty]

Correct. I love that little guy :)

[Elan L.]

Ill play:

http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq317/ElanL/chas010.jpg

[Luiz Rocha]

I found a hard one to ID, so will answer this to get to post a pic :)

Siganus doliatus

[Iwishihadgills]

(It's really easy to tell when the picture is called Ctenochaetusflavicauda.jpg )


dam it lol

[Iwishihadgills]

Siganus doliatus. oops luiz already had it

[myerst2]

Okay I'm going to go since Luiz is not around it seems. T'http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/rare%20fish%20pics/0020090003672.jpg

[Luiz Rocha]

I am around :) but I thought I had to wait for confirmation from the original poster! Yours seems to be a dragonet, but I can't pin down the species, is it Synchiropus moyeri?

[AuroraDrvr]

Not the best picture, but it appears to have a blenny mouth structure.

So with that, I'll guess:
Emblemaria nivipes

[Luiz Rocha]

Not the best picture, but it appears to have a blenny mouth structure.

So with that, I'll guess:
Emblemaria nivipes

I am pretty sure it is a dragonet because it has two separate dorsal fins. The dorsal fins in Emblemaria are connected, here is a photo of E. nivipes for comparison:

http://www.discoverlife.org/IM/I_RR/0016/640/Emblemaria_nivipes,I_RR1689.jpg

[joetbs]

Tomiyamichthys sp. # 2

[myerst2]

No friends keep at it. Goby for sure no dragon here. Look at the "horns" on the head and the dorsal. T

[DFS]

Agree with Joe, unidentified Rayed Shrimp Goby- Tomiyamichthy sp.

http://gobyfrontiers.org/gf/eg-047.htm

[tcmfish]

Looks like Joe is right. Now we should probably get back to Luiz's turn.

[joetbs]

i'll post one while Luiz is away

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/joetbs/mini-goby.jpg

[Iwishihadgills]

Eviota punctulata is my best guess

[Iwishihadgills]

if not that one maybe Eviota afelei . Both look very similar

[Iwishihadgills]

If im wrong void the picture
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t4/rothincali/fishy.jpg

[AuroraDrvr]

Pretty sure you were wrong. It looks like Eviota prasina. :)

Your picture is a Acanthurus monroviae.

But, let's wait and get confirmation from Joe before moving on.

[Iwishihadgills]

haha dang mine was to easy

[joetbs]

Aurora is right. Those little guys are tricky =)

[AuroraDrvr]

Here's one. Background probably gives it away. (hint)


http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9518/54577.jpg

[tcmfish]

Discotrema crinophila

[AuroraDrvr]

Yup. You're up.

[tcmfish]

I don't have any pics ready to go sorry. First one to go gets to post one. (Sorry I like I.D.ing them more, but I'll try and get some pics to post.)

[Iwishihadgills]

heres a good one.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t4/rothincali/fishy1.jpg

[Cantonesefish]

Cephalopholis igarashiensis, neptune grouper?

[HomeSlizzice]

I second Cephalopholis igarashiensis (Neptune Grouper)

[Iwishihadgills]

you got it chris

[Luiz Rocha]

Since Chris is offline I will post one to keep it alive. This one may look easy, but it's hard!

http://www.luizrocha.com/fish/damsel1.jpg

[kirkaz]

Chromis margaritifer?? Guessing not as you said it was a toughy.

[Luiz Rocha]

Chromis margaritifer?? Guessing not as you said it was a toughy.

Nope, keep trying :)

[JHemdal]

Well, I got nuthin - looks a bit like a Chromis dimidiata, but you said this was a hard one, so I'll just toss out a random guess: an adult Chromis fatuhivae. But there are a bunch of doppelgangers with this basic color pattern: C. abrupta, C. iomelas, C. leucura, C. delta, C. bami and C. magaritifer.

And that brings up my oft-repeated gripe with this thread - all of these similar fishes really should not be identified based on looking at a picture and matching it up to some other pictures (In my case, Dr. Randall's Reef and Shore Fishes of the South Pacific!). My college professor would toss out a picture of a fish and ask us what it is. When somebody answered, he would hammer them with, "You cannot identifiy a fish you do not have in hand".(grin).

Jay Hemdal

[kirkaz]

Nope, keep trying :)

If you insist:)

Chromis iomelas??

[Luiz Rocha]

Well, I got nuthin - looks a bit like a Chromis dimidiata, but you said this was a hard one, so I'll just toss out a random guess: an adult Chromis fatuhivae. But there are a bunch of doppelgangers with this basic color pattern: C. abrupta, C. iomelas, C. leucura, C. delta, C. bami and C. magaritifer.

And that brings up my oft-repeated gripe with this thread - all of these similar fishes really should not be identified based on looking at a picture and matching it up to some other pictures (In my case, Dr. Randall's Reef and Shore Fishes of the South Pacific!). My college professor would toss out a picture of a fish and ask us what it is. When somebody answered, he would hammer them with, "You cannot identifiy a fish you do not have in hand".(grin).

Jay Hemdal

You got it, Chromis fatuhivae, one of the rarest fishes out there. Not only it is endemic to the Marquesas, within the archipelago it only occurs in the island of Fatu Hiva. But that's not fair, the photo on Jack's South Pacific book is mine, taken during the same dive when I took the one I posted above :)

[JHemdal]

O.K., very cool, so that was your image in the book!

Hey - I think I've got a good one for the group, I have my camera with me at work today, give me a bit to get a photograph of it....


Jay

[JHemdal]

O.K., here is the next fish. Here is a hint: Flipping through aquarium picture books won't help you on this one, but being a saltwater angler might!

http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr210/jhemdal/_JFH0777.jpg


Jay

[Recty]

Around here, we would call that a sardine :)

[JHemdal]

Close but no cigar!


Next hint - it has a spiny first dorsal that is mostly hidden in this photo because it is folded down.


J

[username in use]

Is that an Atule Mate?

[Beaun]

My first guess would be yellowtail scad, Atule Mate.


Edit: got in a second late...

[JHemdal]

Correct family, close on the genus, wrong ocean....

J

[Beaun]

At least I knew it was a Jack...here is my guess.

Decapterus macrosoma?
Alepes kleinii?

[JHemdal]

Beaun,

Correct on the genus Decapterus. Your location is listed as "East Hampton", so the next hint is that this fish originated from an aquarium about 16 miles west of you, or you could find millions of them if you go a bit east of your location. (grin).

J

[itachi]

Decapterus punctatus ?

[username in use]

Decapterus macarellus

[JHemdal]

Decapterus punctatus ?

Yep! The round scad. Also called the cigar fish (thus my "close but no cigar" quip). Your turn itachi......

J

[itachi]

compared to the last one ,this should be easy .. a nice grey juvi tang =)
http://gallery.me.com/dchiang/100032/Mystery2/web.jpg?ver=12554191340001

[itachi]

Okay hint.. Not from the red sea
it's Acanthurus but that's a given.

[Cantonesefish]

Thanks for keeping the thread alive Luiz! I'll throw my photo out there:

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5479/id2g.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/id2g.jpg/)

[JHemdal]

Cantonesefish,

Chaetodon sanctaehelenae. I got to work with some of these about 25 years ago. At a public aquarium I used to work at, the curator knew somebody in the RAF or something, and we got a few boxes of fish from St. Helena. All fine except that the intake pipe on a pump slipped and the quarantine system supersaturated and we lost most of them (they weren't in my area at the time though!).

Assuming I got it right, I'll pass to the next person who wants to post a picture.....

Jay

[Luiz Rocha]

Lets get the surgeonfish before we move on to the next, I am thinking Acanthurus chirurgus...

[itachi]

Lets get the surgeonfish before we move on to the next, I am thinking Acanthurus chirurgus...

good guess, it's not atlantic ocean tho. This one is found in indo-pacific.

[smb2]

A.nigroris [jev]

[itachi]

A.nigroris [jev]

close getting warmer . Not found in hawaii... Max size up to 40 cm .. This fish can be poisonous to eat.

[smb2]

Don't know about the poisonous part
A. nigrofuscus

[itachi]

Don't know about the poisonous part
A. nigrofuscus
almost. Here's a picture of an adult to help out a little
http://www.fishbase.org/images/species/Acnig_uj.jpg

[Cantonesefish]

Yep you're right JHemdal! I was curious if anyone had worked with these before.

[JHemdal]

A lieutenant surgeon that got court-martialed? (I can only see one shoulder bar)

J

[itachi]

Having trouble finding a image thats correct sigh .. Here's one, i think is correct of an adult >.<
http://i32.*******.com/2qko0gw.jpg

[itachi]

A lieutenant surgeon that got court-martialed? (I can only see one shoulder bar)

J
haha funny, story behind me getting this fish is pretty funny too.

[ShrimpChipGal]

A lieutenant surgeon that got court-martialed? (I can only see one shoulder bar)

J

Lol That's hilarious.

[Luiz Rocha]

Acanthurus nigricauda, never would have guessed if you hadn't posted the adult photo. Don't think I ever saw one that small... This is more like the juveniles I see:

http://www.meerwasser-lexikon.de/images/wFK7gb3STw.jpg

http://www.ultimatereef.net/iddb/images/fish/tangs/tang50.jpg

[itachi]

Acanthurus nigricauda, never would have guessed if you hadn't posted the adult photo. Don't think I ever saw one that small... This is more like the juveniles I see:

http://www.meerwasser-lexikon.de/images/wFK7gb3STw.jpg

http://www.ultimatereef.net/iddb/images/fish/tangs/tang50.jpg

You are correct, I thought it would be a small challenge given we've resorted to bait fish and hybrids ... why not juvi's too lol ..

We originally bought this fish because me my fish guru friend had no idea what what it was. Infact it was labeled as an ASST. Tang at a LFS here ... and they had no idea.

-Anthony

[ShrimpChipGal]

We bought that little guy when it was about 2 - 2.5 inches from mouth to tip of tail and it was somewhat greyish with almost no colors on the fins. It was labeled as an Assorted Tang. Now it's about 3-3.5 inches and eats everything I throw in from frozen to pellets to flakes to all the algae in the tank. Good grazer.

[itachi]

We bought that little guy when it was about 2 - 2.5 inches from mouth to tip of tail and it was somewhat greyish with almost no colors on the fins. It was labeled as an Assorted Tang. Now it's about 3-3.5 inches and eats everything I throw in from frozen to pellets to flakes to all the algae in the tank. Good grazer.

I think it's the only way i can justify us buying a grey fish ...

[Luiz Rocha]

My turn I guess, here we go then:

http://www.luizrocha.com/fish/Toby.jpg

[itachi]

Canthigaster solandri

[joetbs]

Canthigaster supramacula

[ShrimpChipGal]

Canthigaster bennetti

[ShrimpChipGal]

Canthigaster supramacula

You are probably right, joetbs. It looks almost identical to the one on fishbase. http://www.fishbase.org.cn/Photos/PicturesSummary.php?ID=61203&what=species

[Luiz Rocha]

Canthigaster supramacula

Bingo!

[joetbs]

this one might be a little tricky

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/joetbs/idme.jpg

[myerst2]

Pseudoplesiops typus

[myerst2]

Pseudoplesiops revellei

[joetbs]

no and no but you're in the right (small) genus

[myerst2]

feel like I'm back in school. Yes Tim, you got 50% correct. T

[myerst2]

immaculatus

[joetbs]

down to 25% :D

[myerst2]

if only I had drive in class........occidentalis

[myerst2]

Imagine this is summer school and teachers look the other way. Pseudoplesiops sp.

[joetbs]

post a good one. it was Pseudoplesiops wassi. for reference that circle in the back is about the same size as a dime for scale :p

[glassbox-design]

If Tim does not mind, here is an interesting and rare fish in the trade. The genus will do, but guesses at the specific species are also welcome.

Kevin, you've got to site this one out :)

http://glassbox-design.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Mystery-Fish.jpg

[myerst2]

Come on Eric. I worked hard for my almost correct answer. It was the only species left........ http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/c0024719_1504647.jpg

[myerst2]

BTW, jk Eric. I remember seeing this new anthias and have to find the species. Indo species if I remember correctly

[joetbs]

i'll sit the anthias out cos i know what it is

tims looks like a baby sweetlips Plectorhinchus chaetodonoides

[ShrimpChipGal]

My guess on the anthia, Pseudanthias cooperi.

[myerst2]

Correct on the sweetlips. A LFS got this guy in years ago and grew him up to 5 " and gave him away. T

[joetbs]

here's another anthiid for you guys.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/joetbs/mini-DSC_0796.jpg

[ShrimpChipGal]

Wooo pretty!! I love how red it is. I am still dying to know if I got the other one right.

[myerst2]

aurora?

[AuroraDrvr]

That single red/orange bar is a pretty big clue. ;)

Somewhere along the lines of Pseudanthias marcia, I believe.

[joetbs]

nope

[glassbox-design]

Wooo pretty!! I love how red it is. I am still dying to know if I got the other one right.

Nope, not yet :) Here's a hint--it is not in the Pseudanthias genus.

[ShrimpChipGal]

Joetbs, could it possibly be Pseudanthias Hiva?

Thanks for getting back to me, Eric. Now I can keep looking. hehe.

[joetbs]

no, but it is similar. this fish mimics P. pictilis in the South Pacific.

[itachi]

Pseudanthias charleneae ?

[Luiz Rocha]

My guesses:

Joe's: Pseudanthias engelhardi
Eric's: Rabaulichthys altipinnis

[joetbs]

you guys are close to mine & you're in the right genus on Eric's, though i'm not sure you could actually get much closer to his..

mine should be living with Whale Sharks down in Georgia (hint)

[joetbs]

here's a pic of Eric's in the wild http://www.cairnsmarine.com/files/images/storyboards/collecting-rebreathers/FIg11_large.jpg

[ShrimpChipGal]

Rabaulichthys stigmaticus on Eric's?
Ohhh yours is a Pseudanthias bimaculatus. Wow I didn't know they look that red. The ones I have seen have more of a yellow speckle to it and pink hue.

[myerst2]

Since we have no response. I will start the ball rolling again. We'll make it an easy one. T
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/c0024719_14243611.jpg

[DFS]

Plectranthias pelicieri

[myerst2]

Indeeed Kevin. One of my dream fish. Any chance of seeing one of those on DD?

[DFS]

We can only hope to see some of these incredible fishes as they are extremely rare in the trade, but will keep trying.

Next on the block:
http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/ii326/kkohen_photo/Lophiformes.jpg

[myerst2]

commerson

[DFS]

No but close, Hint- This fish has two distinct characteristic that differentiates it from other similar species.

[JHemdal]

It looks a bit like an A. nummifer, but the stripes around the eye seem wrong.....

Jay

[ShrimpChipGal]

Since we have no response. I will start the ball rolling again. We'll make it an easy one. T


Sorry I was waiting for confirmation on them and thought maybe everyone lost interest already. :p

[myerst2]

pictus?

[DFS]

This relatively uncommon Frogfish (in the aquarium trade) is not Anetennarius nummifer either.

Another Hint: To the best of my knowledge its the only species of Frogfish that has whisker like appendages that protrude from its chin below the lower jaw.

[smb2]

A biocellatus

[DFS]

smb2,
Correct, The Twinspot or Brackish Water Frogfish- Antennarius biocellatus.

Your up.

[smb2]

Well not as hard but less often seen in our area..

http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt27/smb2photos/85PMFF755.jpg

[joetbs]

Sorry I was waiting for confirmation on them and thought maybe everyone lost interest already. :p

you were still wrong on the anthias. it was P. carlsoni. the other was R. sp. from the coral sea. not sure there's even a number associated with it at this point.

[ShrimpChipGal]

you were still wrong on the anthias. it was P. carlsoni. the other was R. sp. from the coral sea. not sure there's even a number associated with it at this point.

Wow!!!!! Amazing.

[myerst2]

smb2 Antennarius multiocellatus

[ccampbell57]

Antennarius maculatus

[smb2]

Not quite.
Hard to tell from the photo but this one has a lure size issue.

[myerst2]

commerson

[smb2]

Nope.
Remember, I am on Curacao and don't travel like Luiz!

[joetbs]

smb2 Antennarius multiocellatus

there's only 1 other Angler in Curacao and its definitely not A. striatus :idea:

[chris.rivera3]

WOW!!! amazing looking fish

if i don't get back to this kevin knows the answer...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/joetbs/mini-DSC_0781.jpg

[smb2]

there's only 1 other Angler in Curacao and its definitely not A. striatus

I have never seen the Striated FF here. But I am told by a fairly good source that this is not A. multiocellatus.

[joetbs]

hmm...my next guess would be A. ocellatus. Only other Car. angler is A. bermudensis, but like Striatus its not even close...

[smb2]

Ocellatus is correct. It has a much shorter lure compared to multiocellatus. The spots are supposed to be different but I guess they can be pretty similar.

You are up.

[joetbs]

this one's pretty simple

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/joetbs/mini-DSC_0472.jpg

[Cantonesefish]

R. lunula?

[joetbs]

yup.

[Cantonesefish]

Ok! This one's also pretty straightforward

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/729/idthread.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/i/idthread.jpg/)

[myerst2]

Chaet. nippon

[myerst2]

about 98% sure on the above so......
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/b0155916_0361733.jpg

[Cantonesefish]

Yep you are 100% right

[myerst2]

Bump

[jazzman7838]

either P. randalli or P. pulcherrimus

[jazzman7838]

http://fishbase.mnhn.fr/images/species/Hadia_u0.jpg

[DFS]

Stars and Stripes snakelet (Haliophis diademus). These fishes are basically a type of eel blenny.

Known from Oman in the Western Indian Ocean and is one of four species in this genus. These guys are found hanging out in the spines of Diadema urchins.

I have never seen one available in the aquarium trade before.

Kevin

[jazzman7838]

Stars and Stripes snakelet (Haliophis diademus). These fishes are basically a type of eel blenny.

Known from Oman in the Western Indian Ocean and is one of four species in this genus. These guys are found hanging out in the spines of Diadema urchins.

I have never seen one available in the aquarium trade before.

Kevin

Go you KK. I was looking for Rusichthys explicitus but could not find a single picture online. Luiz, perhaps you could snag a few of these for the aquarium trade on your next trip to Oman? ;)

[jazzman7838]

http://www.oceanwideimages.com/images/6808/large/man-of-war-fish-40M1088-03.jpg

[SDguy]

Isn't that one of those man o war fish?

[jazzman7838]

Your turn Peter. :)

[LobsterOfJustice]

Looks like its been a couple years since we played this game...

Here's a fish that I have seen in a book, but had a very hard time finding a picture of online...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/LobsterOfJustice/fish_zpsitl6yjvv.png (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/LobsterOfJustice/media/fish_zpsitl6yjvv.png.html)