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L98-Z
12/11/2009, 07:10 AM
How do you keep the sand in an agressive tank clean? Snails, crabs, and starfish will typically be killed by the more agressive fish.

kirkaz
12/11/2009, 08:31 AM
Clean up crews are overrated, I don't have one, I don't have sand either. I have a combo of somewhat coarse aragonite, and crushed coral, specifically so I can vacuum the substrate when I do water changes.

If you don't have corals, you can keep really big hermit crabs with most predators. They get as big as a baseball and can readily defend themselves from Wrasses and Triggers, I wouldn't keep them with small fish or coral though, but they are great scavengers.

namxas
12/11/2009, 09:26 AM
i use #3 aragonite in most of my setups. it "lays down" better than finer grade sand, but doesn't catch all of the junk that CC does.

as for those large hermits, i had a large, mean Dardanus sp. (the size of a baseball) that my 2' snowflake eel had no trouble eating (i thought it'd be a good fit for cleaning up as well). i guess it depends on what fish you keep, but i can attest to them not being safe with Echidna sp. eels.

L98-Z
12/11/2009, 09:27 AM
I hadn't thought of the larger hermit crabs. I don't plan to have any corals or small fish, but I did want a zebra eel.

Stuart60611
12/11/2009, 12:20 PM
I have no clean up crew and keep an arganite sandbed. I think the key is keeping the sandbed very shallow. Mine is about 1/4 inch in depth.

LisaD
12/11/2009, 12:34 PM
I have about 5 large stripe legged hermit crabs I collected on the North Carolina coast several years ago. They are in a 210 with a zebra moray and other fish. My sand bed is very clean, and my tank is pretty heavily stocked. The crabs have never bothered anything in this tank.

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sportyrox
12/11/2009, 02:54 PM
Large hermits just don't get anything so big it'll try to attack the fish.

jmccown
12/11/2009, 04:58 PM
I've always had good luck with zebra hermits. I bout 20 about 3 years ago for my 8 foot tank and have about five left today. I just ordered 100 of them this morning for my 11 foot tank that I am setting up. Keeps the fish occupied as well as keeping the tank clean.