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bhammer
12/24/2009, 01:05 AM
What do you use?
What are your likes and dislikes?

Whatever I do, I will control with my Apex.

I saw the Ultrazone Series Ozone Generators online. Ever used them?
I have a 115 and currently cycling a 280. The both of them will ultimatley be connected and run as one system.

DaveMorris
12/24/2009, 10:07 AM
I am using an Enaly ozone generator with built in air pump. $35 and works excellent. Mine is controlled by my RKE and the ozone is injected straight into my MRC-3R Beckett skimmer.

uhuru
12/24/2009, 10:58 AM
Ozotech. All they do is ozone. Very high quality, made in USA.

bhammer
12/24/2009, 11:58 AM
Do either of you have the model number that you are using?

Rocco8
12/24/2009, 12:27 PM
A am using a Sanders Certizon C50 50 grams /hr. I need some device holding GAC to put on the discharge of the ASM G-1 protein skimmer to convert the hypobromous ion back to bromide.
My corals are not completely open since I started using ozone. I attribute this to the toxic hypobromous (ion) acid.

I use the default settings on the Apex unit on at 360 mv and off at 375.

I really like the Apex unit controlling this function.

The graph of ORP versus time is a saw tooth wave. When you add food ORP drops way down and then comes up.

Spend more time designing your Carbon unit before you get the Ozonizer.

Not sure how to add the GAC unit on the ASM G-1 protein skimmer. Any Thoughts?

bhammer
12/24/2009, 12:53 PM
I have heard mixed results of using carbon after the effluent. Some do, some don't. Some of the reading I do says that the carbon is spent after only a couple of hours and the fact that the output is so limited that you don;t need to worry about.

I guess that brings up another question. Who uses carbon with their unit?

Psychographic
12/24/2009, 12:56 PM
What do you use?

Originally an Enally with an unknown airdrier (reactor with dessicant beads) through a Coralife Reactor, Controlled by a Milwaukee ORP Controller.

The Coralife unit sucked, poorly made and a royal PITA to maintain. Enally's seem to be prone to failure and their customer service sucks. The Milwaukee is still working great and I bought this used.

My current setup is a modded China made O3 generator which has been in use for over a year and works flawless. I think it was $30 from E-bay. A modded Red Sea Berlin skimmer is now my reactor, and although the Milwaukee is working fine, I will be using an AC3 to control it soon.

Both the water and airbased effluents are run through carbon.


What are your likes and dislikes?

Likes, crystal clear water, a little less time between glass cleaning (less algea). I know there are more benefits to using it, but I'm no RHF, Boomer or the like, so I'll take their word on the chemical aspects of the benefits of O3

Dislikes, constantly having to clean the probe to get an accurate reading. not much of a dislike as it takes about 20 seconds to do it, but i find it's a daily chore. Recharging the dessicant beads!

Rocco8
12/24/2009, 02:16 PM
Do you have a photo of your carbon set up?

Psychographic
12/24/2009, 03:26 PM
Do you have a photo of your carbon set up?

Me?

Rocco8
12/24/2009, 03:43 PM
Yes, Psychographic

Psychographic
12/24/2009, 04:06 PM
I'll try to get pics up later. Neither are very impressive, I originally ran the effluent water through a reactor made from a Fluidized Bed Filter when I used the Coralife O3 reactor, I found it created too much back pressure and greatly reduced the amount of bubbles produced in the O3 reactor. I wound up just using a juice container that I drilled a bunch of drainholes in the bottom and made a "spraybar" on the PVC inlet. It's not pretty, but it works.

I would like to give it another try with the Berlin I modded, but I can't find an O-ring that fits the cap. I might try a TLF Phosban Reactor. The Berlin seems to be much more forgiving as far as back pressure.

The airborne effluent goes through a Crystal Light container with a single hole through the top that fits the airline and a bunch of holes in the bottom for drainage.

nivenethan
12/24/2009, 05:24 PM
I run RedSea. No carbon on either air or water effluent. Probably should though.

HndMafia
12/24/2009, 05:40 PM
Ozotech Poseidon Jr. with an air pump feeding into a tee on the air intake of one pump on my msx300. RKL for a controller. Have used a couple of reactors and a couple of different carbon effluent contraptions in the past, but now I just inject it into the skimmer and dont worry about it.

HndMafia
12/24/2009, 05:42 PM
I like the ozotech equipment because they are well built and you will be hard pressed to find someone complaining about one of their units. The other mfg stuff looks/feels like a toy compared to Ozotech

dipan
12/24/2009, 06:07 PM
I would go with the 360mg/hr Ultra Zone. A major benefit of this over the plasma arc type ozonizers like the Ozotech is that you have to change bulbs once every 2 years (continuous use) or so, but you don't have to recharge dessicant beads all the time. The Ultra Zone doesn't require dry air to work. It's bulb is rated for 18000 hours.

Odd thing is I have both, but used neither. I'm still in early setup phase, but will use the Ultra Zone.

Daniel Reef
12/24/2009, 07:29 PM
Has anyone connected an air filter to a Life Reef Skimmer when using ozone?

SDguy
12/25/2009, 09:10 AM
I use an Enaly. Can't beat the price. Has been working great. I PM'ed several people about the unit prior to buying it. No one had a bad thing to say about it.

pimpman75
12/25/2009, 09:16 AM
I have a Red Sea Aquazone that I bought for 350. it had a digital readout and controller built in. I use a 500 air dryer. with ozone reactor. it works perfect! very clear water!!

slief
12/25/2009, 09:57 AM
I have a Red Sea Aquazone plus 200. Its not currently hooked up but seemed to work well on my 480G when it was in use. Since switching to a fish only system it has been disconnected but I am thinking about hooking it up again.
I am surprised more people are not using the red sea units..

I had a box made that attaches to my sump via a bulk head.The box had carbon in it and the skimmer water would drain through the box and back into the sump. I also had dryer attached to the inlet between the air pump and red sea unit. The vent on the top of my old skimmer also had a some carbon filtration that I added to eliminate any ozone orders.

bvoss
12/25/2009, 04:56 PM
+1 Enaly. Love mine.

Daniel Reef
12/25/2009, 06:10 PM
Is Enaly better than Ozotech?

bvoss
12/26/2009, 06:51 AM
Don't know if they are better, but they are good and incredibly cheap. I also like the integrated air pump. So many wires in an automated SPS setup, it is nice to get rid of another black box.

DaveMorris
12/26/2009, 07:26 AM
Before I set up my Enaly, I was using a Red Sea unit. I went through two of them and was never satisfied with it. The internal fuse kept popping and Tech support offered up no possible reasons for it. Haven't had any issues with the Enaly and it is hooked up the same way.

Daniel Reef
12/26/2009, 07:48 AM
I couldn't find where the Enaly website said that the air pump is included in the unit.

Mako
12/26/2009, 08:19 AM
I like the Ozotech units and use the Poseidon with a reactor on my large system and am quite pleased with the units operation. Made in America, Yreka CA, and beats anything I have seen from Sanders, Rea Sea, or Enaly in terms of quality, performance, or operation. Enaly is a Chinese manf. BTW and I really try to stay away from the far east imports anymore.

I use carbon on both water and air discharge back to my tank. Carbon lasts a long time in this role and does not need to be of a superior grade to get the results you want. (removal of OPO's)

I love the increase in water clarity provided by ozone. Primary reason I use it. Film algae on the glass is also noticeably less when the unit is in operation.

RHF has some really good articles on the use of ozone in reef tanks and I recommend taking the time to read all three.

Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part I (http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-03/rhf/index.php)
Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part II (http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-04/rhf/index.php)
Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part III (http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-05/rhf/index.php)

bhammer
12/26/2009, 09:32 AM
I couldn't find where the Enaly website said that the air pump is included in the unit.

They are listed in the specifications section for the unit. Such as
Internal Air Pump Output 1-2L/Min; 50~60Hz

bhammer
12/26/2009, 09:37 AM
I use carbon on both water and air discharge back to my tank. Carbon lasts a long time in this role and does not need to be of a superior grade to get the results you want. (removal of OPO's)

Thanks... Do you have a diagram or pictures? I understand the water discharge, but are you saying that you run the ozone airline through carbon and then that into the reactor, or does the reactor have an air discharge as well?


RHF has some really good articles on the use of ozone in reef tanks and I recommend taking the time to read all three.

Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part I (http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-03/rhf/index.php)
Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part II (http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-04/rhf/index.php)
Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part III (http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-05/rhf/index.php)

Yup, have read through those. They are very informative.

Daniel Reef
12/26/2009, 11:31 AM
They are listed in the specifications section for the unit. Such as
Internal Air Pump Output 1-2L/Min; 50~60Hz

I couldn't find that reference in any of these websites:

http://www.enaly.com/ozac.html

http://www.enaly.com/ozacplus.html

Daniel Reef
12/26/2009, 11:52 AM
Thanks... Do you have a diagram or pictures? I understand the water discharge, but are you saying that you run the ozone airline through carbon and then that into the reactor, or does the reactor have an air discharge as well?

I would like to see a picture or diagram too. I intend on injecting ozone into a Skimmer. I am still confused as to how to connect a carbon filter for the air discharge. Any help would be appreciated. TIA

SDguy
12/26/2009, 12:27 PM
I would like to see a picture or diagram too. I intend on injecting ozone into a Skimmer. I am still confused as to how to connect a carbon filter for the air discharge. Any help would be appreciated. TIA


Just put a bag of carbon on the air vent (either on the collection cup, or in my case, the waste collector vent).

BTW, I bought my enaly through ebay. Not sure if there is another way to buy direct. Mine was a unit without the airpump, since I already had the air pump.

Daniel Reef
12/26/2009, 12:44 PM
Just put a bag of carbon on the air vent (either on the collection cup, or in my case, the waste collector vent).

BTW, I bought my enaly through ebay. Not sure if there is another way to buy direct. Mine was a unit without the airpump, since I already had the air pump.

Thanks for the tip. I didn't realize that it was that simple. I saw some threads about Carbon Air Filters sold by Marine Technical and couldn't figure out how it would work with a skimmer.

http://www.marinetechnical.com/page17.html

bvoss
12/26/2009, 12:47 PM
I tend to shy away from the Chinese imports as well, but this was just to good to try out:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ENALY-Ozone-Generator-Water-purifer-OZX-300U-Air-Dryer_W0QQitemZ360215973976QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item53de8b9058

SDguy
12/26/2009, 12:50 PM
Thanks for the tip. I didn't realize that it was that simple. I saw some threads about Carbon Air Filters sold by Marine Technical and couldn't figure out how it would work with a skimmer.

http://www.marinetechnical.com/page17.html

Hmmm, not sure what that is for, but I don't think it is designed for skimmer air venting; at least not from a practical standpoint.

BRG
12/26/2009, 01:07 PM
I like the ozotech equipment because they are well built and you will be hard pressed to find someone complaining about one of their units. The other mfg stuff looks/feels like a toy compared to Ozotech

Hi HndMafia,

can you tell me who sells ozotech units online

thanks
bg

Daniel Reef
12/26/2009, 02:11 PM
Hi HndMafia,

can you tell me who sells ozotech units online

thanks
bg

Aquarium Specialty.

Wrench
12/26/2009, 02:17 PM
Bulk Reef Supply has the Ozotech units as well as the Enaly controllable unti.

bhammer
12/26/2009, 09:26 PM
I couldn't find that reference in any of these websites:

http://www.enaly.com/ozac.html

http://www.enaly.com/ozacplus.html

Browse around a bit, it's in there. I found this real quick: http://www.enaly.com/ozx-300at.html

Don't think it is for the machines they are talking about here, but their specs are on the web.

bhammer
12/26/2009, 09:27 PM
[QUOTE=SDguy;16270959]Just put a bag of carbon on the air vent (either on the collection cup, or in my case, the waste collector vent).QUOTE]

that won't work for my GSA skimmer as the lid has holes in it for vents. Thinking about a DIY reator though and should be able to go that route.

thereefaquarist
12/26/2009, 10:51 PM
ozotech and sanders have always been great qualty units for me never heard of this enaly but people seem to like them.