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Reeftanks6
03/01/2010, 08:05 PM
Hello,

I recently posted a thread about an emperor and got the answer that it would be to small in a 90g. I have two people say a Majestic Angel but i wanted to see what you guys think about this in a 90g.

Its a poll but please right some info to. I did some research on them but there is always more to learn.

NJ_Reefkeeper
03/01/2010, 09:30 PM
Great fish, I have one around 6 inches in my softie 220. Great fish.

snorvich
03/02/2010, 05:57 AM
Superb in a 220, too large for a 90.

silverfly
03/02/2010, 06:14 AM
I'd have to agree you might enjoy a dwarf angel more in the 90g.
Have you had a look at the smaller angels yet-they are quite stunning.:)

rachenbrazil
03/02/2010, 07:52 AM
Majestic are more sensitive to changes and 90 is much less stable than larger tanks...
between both ... emperor would handle better the 90 ...

eyebedam
03/02/2010, 07:58 AM
Id think the Emperor would do better in the 90 untill it matured then you may have to find it a new home. Id be looking at 1 of the Dwarf angels, there are some with really stunning colors.

silverfly
03/02/2010, 08:16 AM
Do you guys reckon he could do a Regal?

LobsterOfJustice
03/02/2010, 09:12 AM
Nothing but a centropyge in a 90 IMO. Had a majestic in a 75 but gave him to someone with a larger tank.

silverfly
03/02/2010, 09:51 AM
Could it depend on the aquascape though?

Toddrtrex
03/02/2010, 10:09 AM
Could it depend on the aquascape though?

IMO, no it won't matter. It is just going to get too big for that tank. I had a blueface (( Pomacanthus/Euxiphipops xanthometopon )) which is very similar, in my 75. Raised it from a Juvi, but had to sell it --- was just getting too big.

silverfly
03/02/2010, 10:34 AM
Fair point. What would you recomend as a compromise fish for him? Is there a dwarf angel that has a similar look to some of the larger fish?

Reeftanks6
03/02/2010, 02:20 PM
Thanks for the very informational answers guys. looks like i will not be going with a blue face or an emperor. What are some other small angels like the dwarfs that would be a good inhabitant to the tank. That is more trust-worthy to be reef safe ever though i know its a hit or miss. I do love the coral beautys and flame angels.

silverfly
03/02/2010, 05:41 PM
I love the bicolor, potters and flameback. To me the bicolor has the shape and look of the larger species.
Also, i cant remember your other fish, but have you considered the chevron tang. Thats a lovely fish for a 90g

Sheol
03/02/2010, 06:13 PM
Bicolor I now own, myself. But they are FAR from a beginers fish ( this is actually the 2nd one, the first one faded away, like they often do). Awesome little girl, but one of the less Reef Safe Centropyge angels. Keyholes are cool, too. They can also get over 6 inches in size.
Don't EVER forget Flames, Coral beauties, Cherubs ( very aggressive & smaller probably than you might want though) Etc. Remember there are at least 30 different "Dwarf" angels to choose from.

Matthew
Positive note for C. bicolor- has more than a passing resemblence to both Queen angel & Rock beauty angel.

Toddrtrex
03/02/2010, 06:29 PM
Yea, I personally would stay away from a Bi-color -- for both there love of nipping at corals, and they can be difficult to keep alive.

I haven't had any issues from my Potter's, Multicolored and Flame, as far as being reef safe, though each fish will be different.

Sheol
03/02/2010, 07:06 PM
Normally, I would have, but I fell in love! Such an EVIL emotion!

Matthew
But its a High Maintnance relationship!

Reeftanks6
03/02/2010, 07:47 PM
Well i just got back from the fish store. Picked myself up a coral beauty. Always loved these fish. Saw one and had to have it. I will post some pictures tomorrow for you guys!

Reeftanks6
03/02/2010, 07:48 PM
I love the bicolor, potters and flameback. To me the bicolor has the shape and look of the larger species.
Also, i cant remember your other fish, but have you considered the chevron tang. Thats a lovely fish for a 90g

I have looked at them but i already have two tangs. Sailfin and Kole so i am pretty much stocked out on tangs.

silverfly
03/03/2010, 06:42 AM
Well done on the purchase!

Reeftanks6
03/03/2010, 01:48 PM
Well done on the purchase!

Thanks silverfly, hopefully I can get some pictures today

silverfly
03/03/2010, 02:17 PM
Looking forward to them!

boilermaker1
03/03/2010, 05:34 PM
CBs are great little fish. I had one for several years. One of the most amusing fish to watch I'd ever had. Lost him to some kind of swim bladder issue... still miss the little guy's antics.

Reeftanks6
03/03/2010, 06:05 PM
CBs are great little fish. I had one for several years. One of the most amusing fish to watch I'd ever had. Lost him to some kind of swim bladder issue... still miss the little guy's antics.

Yeah they are great little fish. This is my second one. Had on in my old tank. Sorry to hear about your lost boiler.

Reeftanks6
03/03/2010, 06:07 PM
Here is the best picture i could get. He goes in the rock as soon as i go to the tank.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/26476429@N07/4405304270/" title="DSC00339 by tdevlin06, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4013/4405304270_d167554f59.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="DSC00339" /></a>

Sheol
03/03/2010, 06:46 PM
Nice one, my LFS had one when I got the C. bicolor but it was so-so in coloring. I tried two of them during my Rookie year. Lost one to a Salinity problem. The other seemed fine, but died in 2 weeks, cause unkown. I think my tank was just not mature enough..
Actually, don't forget the Singapore Angel ( C. mesolucas). Not a dwarf angel, but pretty small & cute as a button!

Matthew

Reeftanks6
03/03/2010, 06:48 PM
Nice one, my LFS had one when I got the C. bicolor but it was so-so in coloring. I tried two of them during my Rookie year. Lost one to a Salinity problem. The other seemed fine, but died in 2 weeks, cause unkown. I think my tank was just not mature enough..
Actually, don't forget the Singapore Angel ( C. mesolucas). Not a dwarf angel, but pretty small & cute as a button!

Matthew

Thanks Sheol, Yeah i lost my first one for some odd reason about a year ago. Never new the cause. But yeah the singapore's are really nice to.

wooden_reefer
03/03/2010, 07:16 PM
Majestic in a 90 gal tank is a borderline situation that is hard to have a strong opinion.

Majestic grow rather slowly, likely slower than the blueface even.

The blueface is not a fast growing angel.

Reeftanks6
03/03/2010, 07:21 PM
Majestic in a 90 gal tank is a borderline situation that is hard to have a strong opinion.

Majestic grow rather slowly, likely slower than the blueface even.

The blueface is not a fast growing angel.

Thanks for the response wooden reefer. Yeah it might have been an option. But when i went to the fish store they had one that was already pretty big so said no way know i can go with that fish.

Sheol
03/04/2010, 07:23 PM
If I had a 90 gallon SPS tank, I'd look for a juvenile Regal Angel. My dream fish. Yeah, eventually it would need a larger tank. Not like I'd have an ulterior motive there or anything <g>

Matthew

Reeftanks6
03/04/2010, 08:47 PM
Sheol, Yeah they are beautiful fish to have in a reef I bet. But from what I have seen they are hard to come by. If you do come by one I have heard that it is hard to get a healthy one. Just a beautiful fish though. Would love to have one to.

silverfly
03/05/2010, 12:55 PM
I would say a regal in a 90 was doable

Sheol
03/05/2010, 01:17 PM
It would also depend upon your experience with SW angelfish, for keepin a Regal. Which is why I'm trying my C. bicolor, learning how to acclimate the more difficult angels. Well, not every thing I do is practice for the future, but this is.
Regal is one of my ultimate goals!

Matthew

Reeftanks6
03/05/2010, 01:47 PM
I would say a regal in a 90 was doable

Yeah I could of done that maybe. But wasnt sure if I was going to be able to take that big risk of that fish? But it will always be in the back of my head.

Reeftanks6
03/05/2010, 01:48 PM
It would also depend upon your experience with SW angelfish, for keepin a Regal. Which is why I'm trying my C. bicolor, learning how to acclimate the more difficult angels. Well, not every thing I do is practice for the future, but this is.
Regal is one of my ultimate goals!

Matthew

Yes would have to 100% agree with Sheol

wolf reef
03/05/2010, 04:17 PM
to big for a 90 had a friend with one in a 225 that was beatuiful

Sheol
03/05/2010, 06:53 PM
I meant short-term for a juvi under 3.0 inches. Good excuse for your BIG tank, right?

Matthew

Reeftanks6
03/05/2010, 10:10 PM
to big for a 90 had a friend with one in a 225 that was beatuiful

Yeah i bet in a 225 gallon tank that fish was beautiful!

silverfly
03/06/2010, 02:21 AM
Wow , this threads still going.lol
No, i dont think they need as much space as some angels.

Korrine
03/06/2010, 10:00 AM
IMO, no it won't matter. It is just going to get too big for that tank. I had a blueface (( Pomacanthus/Euxiphipops xanthometopon )) which is very similar, in my 75. Raised it from a Juvi, but had to sell it --- was just getting too big.

What size did you sell it at?

reefergeorge
03/06/2010, 06:11 PM
Good choice with the CB. They are fun to watch. Mine stays in the rock work most of the time, but he finds every little space to swim through.

Sheol
03/06/2010, 06:21 PM
I went back & looked at Scott Michaels' Butterfly & Angelfish book.
Some other choices could be made, though I noticed many were VERY expensive fish. There are a few Genicanthus angels, also some of the Singapores cousins, like Scribbleds might work. Blueline would be doable but would probably get aggressive in a 90 gallon. Others in the Genus there are smaller than Pomacanthus, thus you aren't stuck with Centropyge ONLY.
But in a 90 gallon you don't just have to keep one Centropyge species, if you are careful. If I had your tank, I'd have the CB & probably a Flame.

Matthew

Reeftanks6
03/06/2010, 08:34 PM
Good choice with the CB. They are fun to watch. Mine stays in the rock work most of the time, but he finds every little space to swim through.

Thanks reefergeorge. Yeah they are great fish!

Reeftanks6
03/06/2010, 08:36 PM
I went back & looked at Scott Michaels' Butterfly & Angelfish book.
Some other choices could be made, though I noticed many were VERY expensive fish. There are a few Genicanthus angels, also some of the Singapores cousins, like Scribbleds might work. Blueline would be doable but would probably get aggressive in a 90 gallon. Others in the Genus there are smaller than Pomacanthus, thus you aren't stuck with Centropyge ONLY.
But in a 90 gallon you don't just have to keep one Centropyge species, if you are careful. If I had your tank, I'd have the CB & probably a Flame.

Matthew

Thanks Matt. Yeah the Cb and the flame would be really nice. But i ll see how things go with the CB and maybe that could be a choice. I had a flame and he jumped out of my tank about 3 months ago. Was a great fish!