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michael_cb_125
03/04/2010, 11:33 AM
http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/201003/04/61/a0162261_21101039.jpg

Is this just one of the many color forms of this species, or a hybrid?

The barring almost looks like C. ferrugata.

~Michael

AquaticFins
03/04/2010, 12:00 PM
I would agree. Either C. bispinosa x C. sheppardi or x C. ferrugata.

Colouring looks a bit more like C. sheppardi to me, but it could easily be either.

I've certainly seen high-orange Coral Beauties, but not with anything like that colouration - particularly the edging on the dorsal and anal fins...the caudal too.

copps
03/04/2010, 12:17 PM
Wow... what a fish! That is probably a Centropyge bispinosa/ C. ferrugata hybrid. C. bispinosa/ C. shepardi hybrids are documented from Guam, but there are no current exports from there and coral beauties there are EXCEPTIONALLY rare... I've seen just ONE in months of diving there... and I was excited about it! It was kind of funny as I chased a coral beauty that whole dive amidst many C. shepardi (which are rather common there)... :)

Was there any info on this fish Michael where you pulled that image from?

michael_cb_125
03/04/2010, 12:45 PM
Hey John!!

You have a PM.

~Michael

glassbox-design
03/04/2010, 12:51 PM
John--this guy landed in Japan and got snatched up by B-Box.

Yuriyakko mystery fish...

copps
03/04/2010, 01:05 PM
That fish has got to be from the Philippines... my guess exported out of Cebu... we'll see... :)

Copps

tcmfish
03/04/2010, 01:11 PM
Interesting how there is such an abrupt line down the middle of the fish, its like someone cut half a deepwater coral beauty and half a rusty and glued them together.

copps
03/04/2010, 04:15 PM
Rusties seem to be a promiscuous bunch for the small range they have... just this past year I've received both a rusty/shepardi hybrid (arrived dead) and a rusty/flame... :)

tcmfish
03/04/2010, 06:35 PM
Rusties seem to be a promiscuous bunch for the small range they have... just this past year I've received both a rusty/shepardi hybrid (arrived dead) and a rusty/flame... :)

They don't get much attention from hobbyists so they have to find it else where :lmao:

Sheol
03/04/2010, 07:17 PM
LOL! Maybe.
But couldn't it just be a very pale Coral Beauty? Some lack much color.
I also vote Rusty if its a hybrid.
Seems Centropyge are not too discriminating, if you know what I mean ( Cough )..

Matthew

copps
03/04/2010, 08:04 PM
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But couldn't it just be a very pale Coral Beauty? Some lack much color.


Even if you take color aside, looking at only morphology you could see the input from ferrugata... there are many aberrant bispinosa, but this guy's a hybrid... :)

Sheol
03/05/2010, 01:28 PM
I tried, John. But he's at a bad angle so I cannot get a very good look at his true form.
But your probably right, having seen many more hybrids than I ever have.

Matt
PS. OK, I see the Rusty resemblence now