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ceci1357
03/09/2010, 05:16 PM
How many people think filter socks do more harm than good, even if they are changed every 2-3 days?

krowleey
03/09/2010, 05:41 PM
i dont how they can cause a problem in that time frame. But i also feel they are a waste of time dealing with them.

ihavtats29
03/09/2010, 06:22 PM
i have a small sump removing the sock creates a ton of microbubbles in my tank, pluss they remove the larger particles in the water collum that the skimmer cannot grab

surfjeepzx
03/09/2010, 06:43 PM
Socks or any other type of filtering media are personal preference dictated by the tanks requirements. I use filter floss because a sock would be too difficult to deal with in my application. Just like any other aspect of the tank a sock will require attention. The plus side of filter media in the sump is that it helps prolong the major cleaning event of removing most floating debris and cleaning out the detritus as you catch a majority of it in the sock.

Your call.

qfrisco
03/11/2010, 03:58 PM
They're not bad as long as you clean them frequently. Doing so every 2-3 days shouldn't be a problem. I think the main problem will be the fact that they're a pain to clean that often. :-) I used to run one, and gave up after a few weeks. They would "fill-up" every couple days.

If you decide to use one, have several handy, so you can put one in while you wash the dirty one. Some folks will just soak them in bleach and wash them once they have several to fill up a load.

Haplochromine
03/12/2010, 06:06 AM
Without using a sock, the same amount of detritus would be still in the aquarium. With the sock, some of it is in the sock. I don't see where the additional nitrates are coming from?

qfrisco
03/12/2010, 06:08 AM
Without using a sock, the same amount of detritus would be still in the aquarium. With the sock, some of it is in the sock. I don't see where the additional nitrates are coming from?


Good point. But I guess theoretically, if they're in your tank, your clean-up crew is taking care of (at least some of) it, but no so in your sock.

workman
03/12/2010, 08:46 AM
I find that running the sock is an easy way to remove significant amounts of detritus. Very easy to change. Keep enough that you can wash several together. I rinse them with a hose, then drop in the washer with bleach. Let them dry for several days to evaporate any bleach.

Mounda
03/12/2010, 01:09 PM
You should be fine if you maintain it every 2-3 days, as mentioned above great dealing with micro bubbles, larger particles and I have a friend of mine that actually uses it to reduce the noise in his sump from his overflow.

JimmyK
03/12/2010, 01:35 PM
For me filter socks work great. I have a large sump with easy access takes 30 seconds for me to change out every few days. I keep a bucket with a lid when I have a full washer load I run them. I still have plenty remaining for cleaner crew corals etc... Another one of those personal opinion kind of questions. (I also make sure my wife is not home to see me putting all of this nasty in our wash machine).

ihavtats29
03/12/2010, 05:13 PM
lol when she finds out just remind her bleach kills all the nasty

btkrausen
03/12/2010, 05:17 PM
I started using socks, and they keep your sump super clean. I generally keep around 4-5 of them, keep one going, and then throw them in the washing machine, inside out, with some bleach. Worked great for me. Less cleaning the sump out and catches any extra food that floats and goes down the drain.

ceci1357
03/15/2010, 06:53 PM
Oxygenated water flowing over filter media forX# days equals nitrate.

PaxRoma
03/15/2010, 08:24 PM
After I remove the filter sock, life is just much simpler.

Beefer
03/15/2010, 08:48 PM
I tried using socks, but it became too much of a chore for me. My fault though... I didn't plan for them in my sump design.

funkoptimus
03/16/2010, 11:28 AM
Dont wash them in a washing machine. You often times have soap residue which is bad....here is an article on soap being left in machines etc.

http://customsites.yahoo.com/financiallyfit/finance/article-109082-4469-3-how-to-really-use-your-dishwasher-washing-machine?ywaad=ad0035

psykobowler
03/16/2010, 12:10 PM
I use socks and do not change them frequently. I use a pressurized garden hose to clean them once in a while. I have a remote deep sand bed in my system so I am not worried about nitrates.

My main sump is a 4x2x2 120 gallon tank without baffles so I need to contain the bubbles.

rgonzalez
03/16/2010, 12:15 PM
They're great for me. Have you seen a sock after 2 days in the tank? They're nasty and I don't want all that stuff floating around in my tank. If you're leaving for a trip, then just take the sock off so you don't worry about nitrates. I've left mine on for 4 days at a time and still have next to no nitrates. They also help remove microbubbles in my sump.

I do find random things inside the sock though. Last night I found a baby starfish and a few copepods. I just pluck them out and throw them back in the sump.

I like the look of my super clean water w/o microbubbles and I couldn't have that look on my system w/o a sock.

ceci1357
03/16/2010, 03:34 PM
Thanks everyonre for posting, I just had a friend who got rid of the socks and his nitrate as well. I've tried cleaning them all the ways ya'll (yep i'm southern) have mentioned. The way I do it is to bleach them in the wash by themselves, rinse in R/O water with declorinator, rinse again, and let dry.

rgonzalez
03/16/2010, 03:42 PM
Well in your equation you have to find out what X is and then make it <X in order to remove nitrates.

Change the socks every few days and you won't have nitrates. That's my math :)

Oxygenated water flowing over filter media forX# days equals nitrate.

reeftivo
03/16/2010, 04:54 PM
I alternate between two socks. I used to throw them in the wash but found that I get them much cleaner by laying them out on concrete and blasting them with a straight nozzle attached to my water hose (turn inside out and repeat). I also dont need to use bleach with the water hose. I find that changing the sock for a clean one then rinsing the dirty one right away when it's wet, gets it clean and is super easy. change out would depend on water quality and bioload, but for me I switch them twice a week and have O trates (tunze measuring box) and .02 PO4 (hanna meter). I have a medium load sps dominated reef with 4 fish .

Tivo