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VtheMaestro
05/09/2010, 10:17 PM
I wanted to start this thread for all the Panorama fixture and stunner strip owners. Everybody isn't into DIY LED projects and some of us just want to buy something that works, so I went with Ecoxotic.

Post your pics, stories, experiences, and questions regarding your Ecoxotic lights.

I AM IN NO WAY AFFILIATED WITH ECOXOTIC :fun5:


I'll start it off...
I'm currently running a 23.5" Panorama fixture over a 36" 57g Illuminata. My Panorama has 2x 403nm UV stunner strips and 5x 453nm Blue stunner strips controlled by a RKE for 3 levels of independent control.

Light Schedule
403nm UV 24/7
453nm Blue 4pm - 10pm, 12am - 2am
Panorama 5pm - 12am

pics before my recent re-scape
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4031/4561209469_a9a84a1a90.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4056/4561839058_4fea73579d.jpg

builderguy
05/10/2010, 10:05 AM
These lights look pretty promising...wouldn't mind tagging along to see other's experience with them

VtheMaestro
05/10/2010, 10:20 AM
These lights look pretty promising...wouldn't mind tagging along to see other's experience with them

they're great. Virtually NO heat, low power consumption, and excellent penetration. I'm very glad I picked these over the mh/t5 combo unit i was considering

DivineStler
05/10/2010, 12:17 PM
looks good. you're getting alot of blue with all those stunners! i'll post some updated pics of mine in the next day or two.

jeffreylam1132
05/10/2010, 12:36 PM
Where do you guys buy these lights from?

DivineStler
05/10/2010, 12:45 PM
I picked mine up from Marine Depot.

GKill
05/10/2010, 12:56 PM
I am also in the hunt for some LED lighting. How long have you had this brand up and running? Any others? Upside/downside?

Reefobsession
05/10/2010, 01:06 PM
I thought these LEDs had a poor par rating. Something about using 1 W LEDs instead of 3 Watt?

Cichlids
05/10/2010, 02:40 PM
anybody have long term sps growth with leds?

DivineStler
05/10/2010, 04:03 PM
I thought these LEDs had a poor par rating. Something about using 1 W LEDs instead of 3 Watt?

They're 3 W LED's. They just underdrive them and have more in the array to keep heat down. If you really wanted to you could easily change out the drivers with Meanwell/Xitanium to dim/brighten. Also not sure where you read about the PAR ratings. Only PAR testing I've seen was done by EVILC66 on the smaller 17.5" (48w) unit over a 34G Solana. The light was mounted 10" over the water and still registered around 100 PAR on the sand bed. Not bad for a pretty deep tank with the light mounted so far above.

Also worth noting is 99% of people running the 3W CREEs or whatever run them at 50%. They get pretty hot and super super bright driven at 3W. It also cuts the lifetime of the light by quite a bit. Those 30W LED's on the MaxSpect are even crazier! I don't know many people with that fixture who even turn those 30's on.

anybody have long term sps growth with leds?

I've only had mine up for 2 months, but my buddy gave me a completely browned out piece of green acro and it has colored back up and showing new growth.

jchase1970
05/10/2010, 05:46 PM
LED is the only way to go anymore.

DivineStler
05/10/2010, 07:27 PM
Took a couple quick shots. Still can't get a decent picture with only the 453 Blue on! I'll get some macro shots on the tripod over the weekend.

Here's my build thread if anyone wants to see the other equipt and pics (http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1820149)

23.5 Panorama Fixture over a custom 24 x 24 x 12 cube. 2x 453nm Stunner Strips and 1 453nm 12W Module.

453nm Blue 1pm - 11pm
Panorama 2pm - 9pm

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3381/4597390770_8d762dd4c4.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3411/4596775931_10ba558da5.jpg

DivineStler
05/10/2010, 10:03 PM
I took a close up of my only acro a few minutes back to compare color/growth after about a month under the lights. so far so good I think. polyp extension and overall color is much brighter. going to grab a couple ORA frags in the next few weeks.

4/15/2010

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4059/4536306285_a407df4acf.jpg

5/10/2010

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1225/4597749046_7b1331b547.jpg

KrisC
05/11/2010, 01:29 AM
I just got 2 stunner strips 453 Blues and I am running them as supplemental light, 90 mins pre and post (dawn/dusk) MH. I love them they penetrate to the bottom of my tank 30". I measured the par and at the "bulbs" its around 100 for each strip. But because there is no optics or reflector to concentrate the light the par quickly dissipates. I knew this before I bought the strips thanks to my lfs who let me "test drive" one of there. These lights are great, they bring out great fluorescence colors in my corals. During my test drive I also tried the 403 Ultraviolet. The UV was much dimmer than the blue and didn't penetrate a deep. But it did bring out some interesting fluorescence colors in my SPS. I may get a set later on.

Once again these are not the Panorama, just the stunner strips. I believe Panorama hold their par better.

tidepool2
05/11/2010, 02:26 AM
Great thread! I have two Stunner Strips that bring out the color of my corals better than any of my other lights (250w MHs & 50/50 PCs). My actinic fixture in my display tank just broke and so today I ordered a Panorama 453nm to replace that actinic. I also ordered an 8000k/453nm Panorama for my frag tank. I've been very happy with Ecoxotic for all the reasons already mentioned. They're amazing LEDs.

greech
05/11/2010, 06:17 PM
I looked these up to price them and there seems to be a "stand mount" and a "wall mount" version which are also priced differently. Can someone tell me the which would be best to install on an existing tank? Will I need to drain and slide my tank out away from the wall to install these securely?

DivineStler
05/11/2010, 08:17 PM
I looked these up to price them and there seems to be a "stand mount" and a "wall mount" version which are also priced differently. Can someone tell me the which would be best to install on an existing tank? Will I need to drain and slide my tank out away from the wall to install these securely?

You wouldn't need to drain the tank to install with the wall mount, but it would be a pain in the butt I'd guess!

I think it would be pretty much impossible to mount using the stand without getting it off the wall. at the very least you would have to pull out the sump to be able to get inside the stand. you need to drill two l-bracket like pieces to the top and bottom supports of the stand. they need to be perfectly in the middle or it won't sit level. i'm sure you can find a picture of the mount at one of the online retailers.

greech
05/12/2010, 06:57 AM
I'll look for some pics on the install. Thanks for the info and for posting your feedback on these. Been interested in these fixtures for a few months.

VtheMaestro
05/12/2010, 10:40 AM
Where do you guys buy these lights from?

I got mine from a lfs, but many of the online retailers have them

I am also in the hunt for some LED lighting. How long have you had this brand up and running? Any others? Upside/downside?

I just heard about the brand last month while completing my build. I liked the price, the appearance, the heat output, the power comsumption, and the fact that I wouldn't be replacing expensive bulbs every 8 months. There are other brands, but this one gets my vote. There are downsides, but a simple retrofit fixed them.

I thought these LEDs had a poor par rating. Something about using 1 W LEDs instead of 3 Watt?

i don't know the technical stuff, but the light on my sand bed is amazing

anybody have long term sps growth with leds?

not long term, but my monti's look to be growing and my slimer opened up right away

LED is the only way to go anymore.

i agree

The UV was much dimmer than the blue and didn't penetrate a deep. But it did bring out some interesting fluorescence colors in my SPS. I may get a set later on.

the uv is a great addition to my lighting array. i highly recommend it

I looked these up to price them and there seems to be a "stand mount" and a "wall mount" version which are also priced differently. Can someone tell me the which would be best to install on an existing tank? Will I need to drain and slide my tank out away from the wall to install these securely?

i have the stand mount, the wall mount could be installed without draining; ecoxotic suggests a minimum 5 inches from the water surface, so u should be able to do it. Stand mount would be a pain tho

VtheMaestro
05/12/2010, 10:41 AM
My Ecoxotic Panorama (w/extras)
I'm still trying to figure out what the t5/mh equivalent of it is

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1251/4598677735_97438d5a27_o.jpg

Keiki Moana
05/13/2010, 03:06 PM
Tidepool2 - are you running the panorama module 8000K/453 as the only lights on your frag tank...is it a small tank?...I have a small 5 gal QT tank that I was thinking of using this module or one of evil's par38s...both are about the same price....

BTW...I just got a 36" reefbrite 50%-white/50%-blue for my 20L.....but I still think I could use a couple of 453 stunner strips to supplement for pop...

I saw a tank at That Pet Place in PA that had 2 of the Panorama Systems over it...it was absolutely out of this world! (yeah- I know...so is the cost! :()

Anythoughts on the above?

Doobze
05/13/2010, 04:26 PM
I've been super tempted to buy a system like this, but the only problem is my tank is the exact same as yours maestro, same dimensions, only it's peninsula style set up with one end up against a window and I can find absolutely no viable mounting options.

touhy
05/13/2010, 06:51 PM
there is an alternative method to do the stand mount without taking down the tank and moving the stand out. it's actually quite quick and simple and worked like a charm for me. you do have to remove stuff from the inside of the stand. but no need to drain tank.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ntX_NChYEM&feature=related

camaroracer214
05/13/2010, 07:11 PM
i did par testing and wrote a few articles regarding the stunner strips and the panorama module that i got from ecoxotic. i tried out one of each of the four stunner strips over a small cube-like aquarium and got decent numbers considering the lights used very little energy. i then tried a single panorama module and got about the same par output at lower depths that i saw with the four stunner strips.

i think the stunner strips should be used more for adding color to the tank (actinic lighting), while the panorama modules/fixtures are better for the main lighting scheme. i could definitely see how a panorama fixture would look stunning over a smaller aquarium and be able to fully support coral growth with a good color balance.

the numbers you see below are pretty much at the water's surface with the lights just a few inches above the water.

http://blog.aquanerd.com/2010/02/ecoxotic-panorama-module-par-numbers.html
http://blog.aquanerd.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Panorama-Module-PAR-Numbers-5.jpg

http://blog.aquanerd.com/2010/02/ecoxotic-stunner-strip-par-numbers.html
http://blog.aquanerd.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Stunner-Strip-PAR-Numbers-9.jpg

Orlandomedic
05/13/2010, 07:24 PM
I bought a small strip of all blue lights. As with other LED's I bought two strips to replace my old powerbrites. I actually had to bring one back. My 55 gl was so blue my neighbors asked if I had a nuclear reactor in my house.... these things are amazing!

greech
05/13/2010, 07:51 PM
there is an alternative method to do the stand mount without taking down the tank and moving the stand out. it's actually quite quick and simple and worked like a charm for me. you do have to remove stuff from the inside of the stand. but no need to drain tank.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ntX_NChYEM&feature=related

Thank you for posting this!!!

youtzssd
05/17/2010, 07:28 PM
I added 6 Panorama Modules to my 260 watts of PCs. I plan to go to 18 Panorama Modules and just buy them as I can afford them. I contacted Ecoxotic and they stated that they will be making a power supply that can handle several modules so I won't have so many plugs.

Check out the difference it make in my tank!

PCs Only
http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/35024432/viewmids/51710013.JPG

PCs and all 6 Modules
http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/35024432/viewmids/51710012.JPG

PC Actinic and all 6 Modules
http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/35024432/viewmids/517.510001.JPG

LED Modules Only
http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/35024432/viewmids/517.510002.JPG

lilmonster
05/18/2010, 03:29 AM
I just joined the club, just a small setup, 1 panarama 8k/453 blue, 1 UV stunner and 1 actinic stunner all in a DIY hood.

the build thread is located here http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=17119155&posted=1#post17119155

DivineStler
05/18/2010, 09:54 AM
I added 6 Panorama Modules to my 260 watts of PCs. I plan to go to 18 Panorama Modules and just buy them as I can afford them. I contacted Ecoxotic and they stated that they will be making a power supply that can handle several modules so I won't have so many plugs.

Check out the difference it make in my tank!

PCs Only
http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/35024432/viewmids/51710013.JPG

PCs and all 6 Modules
http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/35024432/viewmids/51710012.JPG

PC Actinic and all 6 Modules
http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/35024432/viewmids/517.510001.JPG

LED Modules Only
http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/35024432/viewmids/517.510002.JPG

Wow, look at how bright those 6 modules are on their own! Looking good man.

VtheMaestro
05/18/2010, 02:19 PM
I added 6 Panorama Modules to my 260 watts of PCs. I plan to go to 18 Panorama Modules and just buy them as I can afford them. I contacted Ecoxotic and they stated that they will be making a power supply that can handle several modules so I won't have so many plugs.

Check out the difference it make in my tank!

PCs Only
http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/35024432/viewmids/51710013.JPG

LED Modules Only
http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/35024432/viewmids/517.510002.JPG
looks like you could ditch the pc's and go all led!

VtheMaestro
05/18/2010, 02:24 PM
I just joined the club, just a small setup, 1 panarama 8k/453 blue, 1 UV stunner and 1 actinic stunner all in a DIY hood.

the build thread is located here http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=17119155&posted=1#post17119155

awesome diy man! I might do something similar to light a frag tank i'm considering

http://www.lmtcg.com/images/forumpics/tank/10glnled/p1020171.jpg
^^Sweet^^

VtheMaestro
05/18/2010, 02:31 PM
I bought a small strip of all blue lights. As with other LED's I bought two strips to replace my old powerbrites. I actually had to bring one back. My 55 gl was so blue my neighbors asked if I had a nuclear reactor in my house.... these things are amazing!

my neighbors asked about the blue coming from my window too - it looks crazy at night lol :eek1:

timdam
05/18/2010, 02:47 PM
i'm not a big baller. but i bought mine cuz i think the price is decent, even though alot of people say it's expensive. considering u don't even have to change bulbs and worry about heating or alot of electricity... i think it saves u money than going with MH.

youtzssd
05/18/2010, 05:22 PM
looks like you could ditch the pc's and go all led!

I have some SPS that would likely be unhappy if I removed the PC's. I had the PC's only and it lost a lot of color. The Grape Monte is just finally turning purple again and the polyps are coming out. I hope with the 18 modules and keeping it high in the tank it will remain happy. When I get the other 12 modules I will remove the PC's and see what happens.

My frogspawn was in the bottom 6" of the tank and it would open some and looked OK. I broke some off by accident and placed it about 6" from the top. It now opens 3X larger than before. I purchased a toadstool leather and it was unhappy 6" from the bottom. I placed it toward the top with the frogspawn and now the polyps come out and it seems happy.

youtzssd
05/18/2010, 05:50 PM
Here are a few more pics of how I mounted the modules. I used a 2x4 cut to length and placed in flush with the top of my canopy. I then mounted the Modules 3 across and 2 deep. I just screwed them to the canopy and used wire ties to keep them all together. I still need to paint the 2x4 black to match.

twiggyb
05/18/2010, 06:12 PM
I own two 17.5 for my 65

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac292/twiggybrown/tank%20shots/DSCF1950.jpg
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac292/twiggybrown/tank%20shots/3-23-10009.jpg
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac292/twiggybrown/sps%20shots/DSCF1907.jpg



With the blue stunners. I have four strips
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac292/twiggybrown/zoas%20and%20palys%20shots/3-21-10002.jpg

twiggyb
05/18/2010, 06:13 PM
Excuse the cyano, it just started. I've been overfeeding for the sea fan

youtzssd
05/18/2010, 07:00 PM
How long have you had them?

fishreef1
05/18/2010, 07:18 PM
Is there any way you can ditch the stand mounts all together and suspend these over a tank?

twiggyb
05/18/2010, 07:35 PM
I've had them since the end of march, here's my thread when I got them. Some before and after pics are on there. http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1819031

wrestle1952
05/18/2010, 08:32 PM
I'm interested to see if anyone is using LED's on larger SPS tanks such as 100 gallons plus. Show your pics. I want to convert but have not seen LED's used on big tanks.

Ston3
05/19/2010, 02:16 PM
Hello everyone, I'm thinking about joining the club too so I'm glad this thread was started. I have a 37 g (22" tall) fowlr which I will be slowly converting into a reef tank. I know I need to upgrade the lighting so I am strongly considering some LEDs.

I want to keep softies, lps, and maybe a few sps near the top. I was planning on placing two of the strip modules on each side (4 total) plus one white and one blue stunner strip on each side.

I wanted to mount it on a diy canopy and have it maybe 5" from the water. What do you guys think?

Thanks

VtheMaestro
05/20/2010, 11:24 AM
I want to keep softies, lps, and maybe a few sps near the top. I was planning on placing two of the strip modules on each side (4 total) plus one white and one blue stunner strip on each side.

I wanted to mount it on a diy canopy and have it maybe 5" from the water. What do you guys think?

Thanks
sounds good to me

I'm interested to see if anyone is using LED's on larger SPS tanks such as 100 gallons plus. Show your pics. I want to convert but have not seen LED's used on big tanks.
i got my panorama after seeing 3 of them end to end on an sps tank. It looked great

Is there any way you can ditch the stand mounts all together and suspend these over a tank?
it would have to be a diy setup

Excuse the cyano, it just started. I've been overfeeding for the sea fan
looks good. how do you like your coral colors during your daylight cycles?

twiggyb
05/20/2010, 03:05 PM
I didn't like how white it was compared to my MH was, but now I like it because it's not drowned out it blue until I turn off the main lights and leave the stunners on. Everything looks good IMO. Some corals may not pop like they did during the daylight hours like my halide, but the evening viewing is spectacular and I usually don't get to enjoy my tank in the day anyway because of work. Overall I'm happy with the lights and not having to change the bulbs each year

youtzssd
05/23/2010, 10:03 PM
Did you see the newest product from Ecoxotic? Fits a standard socket!! Very cool product. Check it out at http://www.ecoxotic.com/catalog/product/view/id/78/s/ecoxotic-par38-aquarium-led-lights/category/3/

jcarenz
05/27/2010, 09:31 AM
I currently have 4 of the Panorama modules, 2 of the 8000K/453nm and 2 of the full 453nm. These are mounted in a DIY canopy over my 55 gallon and are my sole source of daytime lighting. I also have an LED rope light I have run around the inside of the canopy for dusk to dawn lighting. I replaced 216watts of T5s with these. From a visual observation, I would say the PAR is lower but the PUR is about as good, if not better. I have all softies and LPS, and they are doing incredibly well since I switched over to these lights.

what I really like about the iondividual modules is the abilty to cutomize and add more light as needed. Also, for about the cost of 2 years of T5 bulb replacements, I have a lighting system that uses 1/4 the electricity and should last me at least 5 years with no bulb replacements.

VtheMaestro
05/27/2010, 09:38 AM
I currently have 4 of the Panorama modules, 2 of the 8000K/453nm and 2 of the full 453nm. These are mounted in a DIY canopy over my 55 gallon and are my sole source of daytime lighting. I also have an LED rope light I have run around the inside of the canopy for dusk to dawn lighting. I replaced 216watts of T5s with these. From a visual observation, I would say the PAR is lower but the PUR is about as good, if not better. I have all softies and LPS, and they are doing incredibly well since I switched over to these lights.

what I really like about the iondividual modules is the abilty to cutomize and add more light as needed. Also, for about the cost of 2 years of T5 bulb replacements, I have a lighting system that uses 1/4 the electricity and should last me at least 5 years with no bulb replacements.

welcome to the club. post some pics!

BruceW
05/30/2010, 06:53 PM
I am getting the 23.5" Panorama fixture for my new 60 gallon cube tank. This will be a macro/seagrass tank so i will go with mostly white lights. It should be interesting to see how this fixture does with marine plants.

I was fortunate to be able to see all the Ecoxotic products in person when I visited their offices for the Socalaquascapers meeting. I am totally sold on these fixtures after seeing them in action and can't wait to try them.

BruceW

youtzssd
05/31/2010, 08:05 AM
I am getting the 23.5" Panorama fixture for my new 60 gallon cube tank. This will be a macro/seagrass tank so i will go with mostly white lights. It should be interesting to see how this fixture does with marine plants.

I was fortunate to be able to see all the Ecoxotic products in person when I visited their offices for the Socalaquascapers meeting. I am totally sold on these fixtures after seeing them in action and can't wait to try them.

BruceW

I do know that several types of algea grow very well under mine. I would say better than when I had MH or PCs.

DivineStler
05/31/2010, 08:26 PM
snapped a couple pics after the water change yesterday.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4015/4657941227_1e1743ba4b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1266/4658562578_98abf3d709.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4016/4654820843_aca3d2315c.jpg

Animadverto
06/22/2010, 10:23 AM
I'm thinking about getting the 17.5" Ecoxotic Panorama for my 50g Cadlights 24"x24"x20. All the pictures that I've seen in this thread look amazing. I'm wondering if anyone has had long term success in sustaining and growing both SPS and LPS under this light fixture since the 3w Cree chips are only driven at 1w. Any info is greatly appreciated.

heaton
06/22/2010, 10:35 AM
Can't wait to make the switch.

DivineStler
06/24/2010, 10:40 PM
Growth of the Green Acro under my fixture (Top photo is mid April, bottom mid June)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1033/4732252322_38727dcc27_b.jpg

jwingate
06/24/2010, 10:54 PM
very cool thread.. I love LED's and use them in my canopy for supplemental lighting (blues mostly)

ganjero
06/26/2010, 03:38 PM
A friend gave me a blue panorama module and told me if I like it and can keep it for $70. SO I built a bracket to put it on my sunpod, I still need to hide the cables and I'm not sure if I should keep i yet.

I was also thinking in getting rid of the 70w sunpod and using this blue panorama module and add a white one but Im not sure if that enough light for lps, and some sps.

I'm also interested in knowing if the blue leds of this panoramas produce the same PAR as the white ones.

Here are some pics:

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m277/ganjero/DSCF0376.jpg
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m277/ganjero/DSCF0374.jpg

twiggyb
06/26/2010, 04:15 PM
The stunner strip is just for aesthetics, you'd need to buy an actual panorama strip for growth. I don't believe the blue stunners are $70 a pop. Around $30 I think. The actual panorama strips are more around that price if not more, I can't remember off hand.

ganjero
06/26/2010, 09:07 PM
The stunner strip is just for aesthetics, you'd need to buy an actual panorama strip for growth. I don't believe the blue stunners are $70 a pop. Around $30 I think. The actual panorama strips are more around that price if not more, I can't remember off hand.
If you are replying to my post Im not sure if you read it carefully.

greech
06/26/2010, 09:28 PM
ganjero, I assume the MH isn't on in that pic? How does it look when both lights are on?

twiggyb
06/26/2010, 10:44 PM
If you are replying to my post Im not sure if you read it carefully.

I've re-read it and from what I'm understanding is you want to get rid of the sunpod and just use a blue stunner and a white stunner am I correct?

ganjero
06/27/2010, 07:03 AM
ganjero, I assume the MH isn't on in that pic? How does it look when both lights are on?
That's just the LEDs I can take a pic with both on and post it.

I've re-read it and from what I'm understanding is you want to get rid of the sunpod and just use a blue stunner and a white stunner am I correct?


No man, that's just funny. I'm not sure where are you reading the word "stunner". You are telling me that I need a panorama strip for growth, and my first sentence said that I have a panorama module (BTW they are $94 +taxes and shipping) That's why I was asking too if the blue LED on the panoramas have the same PAR as the white ones (I know for PAR38 lights thats the case, but I'm not sure if that applies to all LEDs)

twiggyb
06/27/2010, 07:35 AM
My bad, didn't know they made all blue ones now. Oops lol

DivineStler
06/27/2010, 09:46 AM
That's just the LEDs I can take a pic with both on and post it.




No man, that's just funny. I'm not sure where are you reading the word "stunner". You are telling me that I need a panorama strip for growth, and my first sentence said that I have a panorama module (BTW they are $94 +taxes and shipping) That's why I was asking too if the blue LED on the panoramas have the same PAR as the white ones (I know for PAR38 lights thats the case, but I'm not sure if that applies to all LEDs)

My understanding is the blue stunner strips get the same PAR as the white. I haven't seen any testing of one panorama module vs. another though. I assume it would be about the same.

I think the larger thing to note is the individual panorama modules aren't the same as the modules in the fixture. The modules in the fixture are in a smaller housing, with reflectors and individual drivers. The panorama modules use just a standard power plug and don't have the same reflectors as the oens in the fixture. For that reason I think the panorama modules (no matter how many you have) would be best used for supplemental lighting. The fixtures would be the way to go for you main lighting.

ganjero
06/28/2010, 12:05 PM
My understanding is the blue stunner strips get the same PAR as the white. I haven't seen any testing of one panorama module vs. another though. I assume it would be about the same.

I think the larger thing to note is the individual panorama modules aren't the same as the modules in the fixture. The modules in the fixture are in a smaller housing, with reflectors and individual drivers. The panorama modules use just a standard power plug and don't have the same reflectors as the oens in the fixture. For that reason I think the panorama modules (no matter how many you have) would be best used for supplemental lighting. The fixtures would be the way to go for you main lighting.

I didnt know they were that much different from the fixtures.

Thrashie
07/10/2010, 03:16 PM
has anyone tried the reflectors for the stunner strips yet?
curious to see the difference.

http://www.ecoxotic.com/products/modular-led-lighting/modular-led-accessories.html

DivineStler
07/19/2010, 11:37 AM
I went to the EcoXotic showroom with SCMAS this weekend. They had some really nice tanks set-up. They also showed us a preview of a new fixture w/ a remote ballast for use inside existing canopies. It was a 9 x 9 inch'ish square that had mounting brackets to screw into a canopy. It was super bright! reef builders blog has some pictures of it, if anyone is interested.

I didn't have my camera on me, but I'll post some pics if anyone else from the club posts some.

Thrashie
07/19/2010, 01:29 PM
i have 2 stunners (453nm) and 2 panorama modules (which both make for an awesome sunup/sunrise/moonlight before the halides/actinics kick on) but i am curious how many i would need to totally replace my dual 150w halides and get the same/similar/better performance.....or is it just not possible with these lights? they would be going on a 90g mixed reef

curious to see this new ballast as well!

mikeyVR4
12/12/2012, 03:27 PM
I know its a old thread but figured its still relevant.

I have a 48" Panorama Marine LED System from Ecoxotic and noticed my Xenia has been kinda a drag ever since I got it. At first it was waving... but now it shrunk and seems to just be stagnant. I know the white on the system is about 12K and the blue actinic is about 445nm.

Any ideas or suggestions? :(

I am currently leaving the blue actinics on dim throughout the night and using the white/blue mixture for most of the day...

mikeyVR4
12/12/2012, 08:40 PM
Can anyone give me some advice ^^^

I am curious if I should ditch this setup or if I need to add some stunner strips. Anyone with expertise with these lights please help.

Orlandomedic
12/12/2012, 08:42 PM
How far are the lights from the surface of the water? How deep is your tank?

mikeyVR4
12/12/2012, 09:35 PM
How far are the lights from the surface of the water? How deep is your tank?

The tank is a 75 gallon with dimension of (48-1/2"L x 18-1/2"W x 21-1/8"H)

To answer your question the depth of the tank is 21-1/8". I moved the Xenia from the lower half of the tank to on top of my live rock which is roughly 8" away from the light. I have added a powerhead for additional flow.

mikeyVR4
12/12/2012, 09:43 PM
On the left is what is looks like now....the second picture is what it used to look like :(. It was happy back then.
The Xenia no longer waives and has shriveled.

rtparty
12/13/2012, 12:36 AM
The tank is a 75 gallon with dimension of (48-1/2"L x 18-1/2"W x 21-1/8"H)

To answer your question the depth of the tank is 21-1/8". I moved the Xenia from the lower half of the tank to on top of my live rock which is roughly 8" away from the light. I have added a powerhead for additional flow.

What was your old lighting? You will need at least two strips and don't leave the blues on all night. Corals need a period of complete darkness for resting.

Also, Xenia is known to just die for no reason.

mikeyVR4
12/14/2012, 02:09 PM
What was your old lighting? You will need at least two strips and don't leave the blues on all night. Corals need a period of complete darkness for resting.

Also, Xenia is known to just die for no reason.

Sorry just saw your post.

Thanks for posting!!! I just started my tank so this is my first lighting kit. How many stunner strips did you go with? I am thinking of ditching this setup and going with T5 lighting...

SantaMonica
01/27/2013, 05:17 PM
Ecoxotic Panorama Marine

Just got a 48" one myself. Probably going to get a second.

reeferman100
02/20/2016, 02:17 PM
Anyone know where I can find mounting bracket for Panorama pro 24 in led. My cat decided to jump on top of it and broke it. I can't find anything online. Thanks

moondoggy4
02/20/2016, 04:39 PM
Have you tried the company? Also try Aquatic Warehouse in Kearny Mesa San Diego all of their tanks are lit by the Ecoxotic Cannons so they know the rep.

davocean
02/20/2016, 04:52 PM
You would probably have best luck contacting ecoxotic, they are usually very good about CS and getting things like that handled.

I have 2 panorama pro strips on my tank, supplemental lighting to my Geisemann T5's, good for supplemental lighting, would not use them for full blown sps tank myself.