My 300G Reef in Saudi Arabia

[syedjilani]

I don’t think so that I will stay and stick with this upgrade and will not upgrade some time in future. So the journey ahead should be fun…….


Well here, it goes...



Little Back Ground:

My name is Syed and I have been addicted by Life under the Sea. After 15 years of freshwater tanks I decided to take the plunge into saltwater in 2001 and built, my first reef Aquarium in Bangkok – Thailand.

When I move to Saudi Arabia in 2004, the addiction of Marine life was very strong, which forced me to start again a Reef Aquarium. So in August 2007 I started again 120 G Aquarium.

27th August 2007
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And after that :reading: and :reading: and :reading:

[syedjilani]

In January 2010 I decided to upgrade my 120G to 300G Starfire custom-made. My current tank is 145cm x 41cm x 52cm custom-made with internal overflow box including a lot of gurgle and vortex sound. Lol…, which I sort out last year with playing with Ball valve.

First two years I was completely fail to keep SPS and LPS. Only able to keep Leathers zoos and mushroom. Last November a friend of mine force me to start SPS again, maybe this time I will get good luck and will able to keep them survive. Staghorn and stylopora coral.


Re-aquascaping in left side of the aquarium to place them.


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[syedjilani]

I took some colonies of Bird Nest, Pocillopora, montipora, Purple and Green Acropora.

SPS on the place .

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[syedjilani]

My current system is very simple. No calcium reactor until today, and will not in future because I am too much happy with Randy Holmes Two Part recipe for dosing calcium and alkalinity. But I keep space in my sump for Calcium Reactor in case.

After six months, I realized that this time I got good luck and able to keep SPS.

April 2010 - Left side
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April 2010 - Right Side
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April 2010 - FTS
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Current Tank:

My current tank and equipment.
Lighting: 1 x 400W MH 10K.
2 X 150W MH 20k.
4 x Actanic Blue T5.
1 x Fuji Purple T5.
3 x VHO.
Protein Skimmer: Weipro SA2014 with Atman AT105.
Return Pump: Atman AT106.
Canister filter: ROWAphos 50grm - Activated Carbon 300grm.

and after that :reading:

[TiTAN]

Looks good.

[syedjilani]

Now, Here we go…..:

After much deliberation and research, I've decided The tank will go into the same room the first tank is in and to the right and left of the tank just past the light switches 110V & 220V. The stuff, which are from USA and other countries, are 110V and locally stuff are 220V.

The Room is approximately 10 X 12 and is cooled via 2 Ton (or 24000 BTU) air conditioner. Heating the room is not a big issue, because we have four beautiful season, summer (hottest) winter (Hot), Autumn (Also Hot) and spring (Hot again). My AC runs 20 Hours a day to control room temperature.

Because of the current use of the room and the available space that remains, the tank will be 72”L X 30”W X 24”H.

Thanks Andrew. Andrew from Hong Kong send me his Aquarium stand diagrams for my 300g.

I have made little changes. Instead of making the sliding doors I prefer to use clips for completely remove the doors from the stand. Color will be completely white. I have already ordered the stand, which I will receive by today evening. I’ll post more photos by tomorrow.

STAND

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And after that :reading: and :reading:

[syedjilani]

With Ahmed (A brilliant guy) suggestion I choose Starfire tempered Glass 10mm thickness.
This is known as Crystal glass as well.

I decided and designed two external 50cm overflow with 3 x 1.5” holes in each box. One for Regular drains one for Flood drain (in case) and one for return from the sump. I choose Herbie silent overflow for drain. Hope it will work well. ;) I’ll post more details as it goes together. Most probably, Glass will be ready by next week. According to the factory, it will take 5 to 6 days.

AQUARIUM

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and then after that :reading:

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[syedjilani]

My plan to make back wall like .......

AQUARIUM BACK WALL


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Need more :reading: and :reading:

[ziyaadb]

hi syed we cant see ur pics

[syedjilani]

hi syed we cant see ur pics

may be the server not suporting in S.A. Let me try some thig else. upload the pics on another server.

Anyone else face same problem ?????

[shullat]

No I can clearly see the algae on the back pane of glass... sorry about that :)
Did you pick up the stand or ot yet, what about the glass?
I can see in the near future that I may be going custom...
And I'll confirm on wednesday for the dive.
Good luck btw...

[syedjilani]

No I can clearly see the algae on the back pane of glass... sorry about that :)
Did you pick up the stand or ot yet, what about the glass?
I can see in the near future that I may be going custom...
And I'll confirm on wednesday for the dive.
Good luck btw...

:lmao::lolspin::lmao:

Nick, your eyes are very strong. Return all my Zoos back with Yellow Goby, which i gave you. lol
:lmao::lolspin::lmao:

It's ready. Stand guy Called me and confirm that i can take. So today :dance:

Once stand arrived on place. I'll get proper measurement for Glass length and width

I am with you. Hopw Ahmed As well.:thumbsup:

[syedjilani]

Looks good.

Thanks Bro.
;)

[syedjilani]

TANK MEASUREMENT

Length: 185cm = 72 inches = 6 feet
Weight: 76cm = 30 inches = 2.5 feet
Height: 60cm = 24 inches = 2 feet

Hope easy to understand for all kind of level. ;)

[Cooper Inc]

I cant see the pics, but sounds good Syed!

[romanr]

I see the pics. That stand is the best I've every seen! Can't wait to see the real thing.

[maroun.c]

Looking good.
how do you get SPS Corals in Saudi?

[r-balljunkie]

looks great. i might suggest adding leveling feet to the base of the stand, if not too late.

c

[shullat]

Syed, if possible, when you pick up the glass from the manufacturer could you ask how much it would cost for a tank of the following size 150*80*50 cm, starphire on 3 sides. If possible :)

[syedjilani]

I cant see the pics, but sounds good Syed!

Thanks cooper.

I'll try to use another server for upload the photos.

[syedjilani]

I see the pics. That stand is the best I've every seen! Can't wait to see the real thing.

Thanks romanr.

Real stand was complete yesterday, but there was little problem in the clips, the guy will change the clips. I will get it hopefully by today evening. :dance:

I'll post the pics

[syedjilani]

looks great. i might suggest adding leveling feet to the base of the stand, if not too late.

c

Thanks balljunkie.

Thanks for your suggestion. It was in my design earlier, but after get information from the guy who is making the stand, that leveling feet will not exist to hold the weight of glass with the stuff inside (Rocks, water, sand etc). Might be possible some time when your system run with everything it will fail to hold the wait and :eek:

Before removing from my plan, I check the floor it's 100% leveled. Btw my 120 gallon on same place since august 2007.

[syedjilani]

Syed, if possible, when you pick up the glass from the manufacturer could you ask how much it would cost for a tank of the following size 150*80*50 cm, starphire on 3 sides. If possible :)

I'll only aske when you give me beautiful seafan in any color except brown for my 300g:strange:

I will go for glass today. ll ask.

[Brando457]

I'm excited to see your journey, your beginning tanks look amazing!

[zaheda]

Exciting project you working on. I got back from Bangkok 2 weeks back, lots of reef equipment available at Chituchak. I got hold of some nice waveboxes for my new tank and also wave pumps. The equipment also very cheap.

[syedjilani]

I made three plans for sump. The existing aquarium will be converted as sump and existing sump will be frag tank.

Plan C is final until now from my side. (Suggestions are most well come) But the problem is only 2 cm bigger then table size. I have to make some amendment in Frag tank to fix under the stand.


SUMP
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And after that :reading:

and more
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[syedjilani]

Here we go SUMP plan B

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And after that more :reading:

and
more

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[syedjilani]

I'm excited to see your journey, your beginning tanks look amazing!

Thanks Brando.

[syedjilani]

Exciting project you working on. I got back from Bangkok 2 weeks back, lots of reef equipment available at Chituchak. I got hold of some nice waveboxes for my new tank and also wave pumps. The equipment also very cheap.

I tell you, my Saturday and completely day of Sunday used to be in Chituchak weekend market. Amazing place. You just think about anything you will find there.

Sea sun aquarium is good shop, Phoket Aquarium is also good shop.

Everything for this hobby is really cheap in this market. Corals and fishes you can find in just a couple of Baht. I really miss Bangkok but I am too much happy in Saudi Arabia.

[nanoedge]

Were did you get the design for the tank stand looks very similar to another tank build that was done here you may want to ask him how he got on with the sliding out sump.Ill try find the thread for ya.

[syedjilani]

SUMP Plan C

This is what I decided. What you say.......

guys:worried2:

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I think more :reading:

and more :reading:

[syedjilani]

Were did you get the design for the tank stand looks very similar to another tank build that was done here you may want to ask him how he got on with the sliding out sump.Ill try find the thread for ya.

The stand idea is from Andrew, living in Hong Kong. I mentioned in my early thread that Andrew send me the complete schematic drawings with dimensions to build similar like his stand.

I made little changes. Today evening I will get stand, ll post real stand photos by tomorrow. Stay tuned.

[syedjilani]

As I mentioned that existing, tank will be sump and sump will be Frag Tank. I made the plumbing plan to fulfill the requirement of Refugium and Frag tank. My plan not to release too much water direct from tank in mentioned area to avoid detritus to get stay and make water parameters unstable. (Ammonia, Nitrate, and Phosphate).

90% Drain from the tank will be in Protein skimmer Area and after that 100 micron Acrylic will filter total volume of water, which pass through bubble trap area. I change Acrylic every twice a week. Normally I just open this Acrylic barrier for 10 hours when I feed my coral.

PLUMBING

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And need more :reading:

:reading:

[syedjilani]

:bounce3: Got :bounce2: the :bounce1::rollface: stand.

:spin2::spin1: Last night.

I'll post the photos later today. I was not expecting, but excellent workmanship.

[v1...rotate]

Wow!!! Looking good so far S.J

Nice planning for the plumbing!! Glad I could help with the stand.

Andrew

[syedjilani]

Thanks Andrew.

Nice to see you here.;)

Really brother you are killing me to use your beautiful aquarium photo as RC avatar.

Thanks for the assistance you gave me. Your suggestion in my journey will help me a lot.


:thumbsup:

[maroun.c]

Lokking good so far.
What I would think about:
-Why have hte frag tank as separate part of the sump? you're loosing the space in between the frag and sump and that space you could use for a set of additional frags with the same lighting and filtration... I have the same design currently and wish the sump contained the frag tank this way I only loose the glass thinckness compared to what you loose here. the tubing in between the tanks will need to have a quick disconnect and locks to allow for stopping waterflow in case yo uneed to take the frag tank off when treating corals in it... so those will consume space.
- are you going to light the frag with T5s or MH? in case it's MH then you need to make sure you have 8-12 inches from the lower side of the reflector to water or else you'll have a hard time light acclimating the corals and dealing with the heat as I have in my setup.
-Skimmer partition in you plan is 37 cm so most probably you'll need to elevate your skimmer around 12 cm as most skimmers work best between 18-25 cm in water. so add that to your skimmer length and allow 1-2 inches for easy removal of the collection cup and make sure your stand is high enough. I had made my calculations but the stand came with horizontal support of the top part positioned vertically on the metal which consummed 3 inches more and made it very difficult to position the skimmer.

Good luck with the build.

[syedjilani]

Hi bro.
Thanks and nice you are here with me

Lokking good so far.
What I would think about:
-Why have hte frag tank as separate part of the sump? you're loosing the space in between the frag and sump and that space you could use for a set of additional frags with the same lighting and filtration... I have the same design currently and wish the sump contained the frag tank this way I only loose the glass thinckness compared to what you loose here. the tubing in between the tanks will need to have a quick disconnect and locks to allow for stopping waterflow in case yo uneed to take the frag tank off when treating corals in it... so those will consume space.

As I mentioned that existing sump will be Frag tank. So this the only way that I can joint the frag tank with sump.
Yes, exactly the both joint of Frag tank to the main sump will have gates to completely block the water circulation in case of any treatment of corals. That is why I made only 5% drain from the tank in frag tank. This is what I planned.

As I mentioned that I have to open my sump again and adjust the measurements according the space remaining. Sump and frag tank is only 2 cm longer then stand.

- are you going to light the frag with T5s or MH? in case it's MH then you need to make sure you have 8-12 inches from the lower side of the reflector to water or else you'll have a hard time light acclimating the corals and dealing with the heat as I have in my setup.

Yes of course, it will have three different wattage of T5 with one Actinic Blue and one 150 watt MH. The reason is to installing 3 different wattage of T5 for proper acclimation of the coral with PAR. I’ll increase light gradually instead of putting them under 150W MH directly. This is what I will do.

-Skimmer partition in you plan is 37 cm so most probably you'll need to elevate your skimmer around 12 cm as most skimmers work best between 18-25 cm in water. so add that to your skimmer length and allow 1-2 inches for easy removal of the collection cup and make sure your stand is high enough. I had made my calculations but the stand came with horizontal support of the top part positioned vertically on the metal which consummed 3 inches more and made it very difficult to position the skimmer.

Yes, exactly what you wrote down above is correct. All has been done with proper planning. Hope whatever I have done will not give me any hard time.

In three years, I made uncountable experiments :reading:with my existing aquarium sump and all other stuff. .

Good luck with the build.

Thanks again for your valuable suggestions.:thumbsup:

[Johnny C]

Looks great! Are you far from Bahrain? My friend just returned from there after 6 months. He loved it! :)

[syedjilani]

Looks great! Are you far from Bahrain? My friend just returned from there after 6 months. He loved it! :)

Thanks Johnny

Not to much far. Distance is 1275 kilometers or 792 miles or 688 nautical miles from Jeddah to Bahrain. ;)

[shullat]

I'll only aske when you give me beautiful seafan in any color except brown for my 300g:strange:

I will go for glass today. ll ask.

Dont know what you are talking about, maybe you had asked someone else :lol2:

[syedjilani]

Syed, if possible, when you pick up the glass from the manufacturer could you ask how much it would cost for a tank of the following size 150*80*50 cm, starphire on 3 sides. If possible :)

Dont know what you are talking about, maybe you had asked someone else :lol2:

I have asked 150*80*50* cm Starphire on 3 sides is SR -----????? :lmao: :wildone:.

Now you under stand what I am talking about. :bum: lol


I will go today evening for Glass order.
But colorful Sea Fan.......still need from you.:D

[A.G]

Very nice man,

where is the stand photos ??????
Lots of planes and drawings I need the real thing !!

best of luck

[syedjilani]

Very nice man,

where is the stand photos ??????
Lots of planes and drawings I need the real thing !!

best of luck


Thanks Ahmed.

Sorry for delay. Of course the stand picture will be soon here. Be patience and stay tuned.

This is a Love story, not action movie start with guns and bullets. Thrill will come soon. :beachbum:

[syedjilani]

Yes, Yes and YES :dance: Stand on board. Thrill get start. Movie get more interesting.
:bounce3:

UPDATE

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[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Doors on it place. I keep every thing white. :dance:

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[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Doors Clips. Doors can remove completely for cleaning sump.

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[fihsboy]

Awesome build! I cant wait to watch this one through. :)

[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Starfire (Crystal Glass) and Normal Glass comparison.

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By tomorrow morning Glass will be ready :dance: and go for Temperd, polishing and Granding. ;)

[shaggss]

Great looking stand!! I think I may have seen it before somewhere?

[syedjilani]

Awesome build! I cant wait to watch this one through. :)

Thank you Fishsboy for your looking on the thread.

Stay tuned. More Thrill is on the way soon. :thumbsup:

[syedjilani]

Great looking stand!! I think I may have seen it before somewhere?

Thanks Shaggss. Yes, you are right. The stand is from Hongkong (Andrew) I made similar stand what Andrew has done for his beautiful reef tank.

:thumbsup:

[shaggss]

hahaha yes I was giving you a hard time!! I too have stolen a lot of ideas from Andrew.......lucky me he only lives 3 minutes walk from me!

Keep up the good work!

[syedjilani]

hahaha yes I was giving you a hard time!! I too have stolen a lot of ideas from Andrew.......lucky me he only lives 3 minutes walk from me!

Keep up the good work!

:lolspin: :lol:

No, There is a difference, I send PM to Andrew for Stand Digrams, and I really appreciated that he send me complete details from A to Z .

Thank you Andrew once again. :thumbsup:

[shullat]

now that you have some "high quality" pics of your current tank, how about posting some?

[syedjilani]

now that you have some "high quality" pics of your current tank, how about posting some?

Nick, :hmm3:

As you know that, I am beginner :sad1: in photography and ended up with new Nikon D5000 :dance:.

Very difficult for me to get the quality photos like what you people can get. Let me try. :sad1:

[shullat]

Nick, :hmm3:

As you know that, I am beginner :sad1: in photography and ended up with new Nikon D5000 :dance:.

Very difficult for me to get the quality photos like what you people can get. Let me try. :sad1:

Hummm, we already adjusted the white balance... now all yo have to do is point and shoot, play with the f-stops, if you need to, and revisit the shots in photoshop if absolutely needed. I dont see what the problem is.... ahhhhh I got it the fish won't hold still :hmm3:

[syedjilani]

Here we go :artist:

Some new shots with New Nikon D5000. Sorry for bad pics.:hmm3:

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[syedjilani]

I did exactly what you told me. I think need :reading:
and :reading:

more :reading:

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[shullat]

white balance still needs to be adjusted :) hummm
the birdsnest is really off in temrs of color on the picture.... such a shame.
so whats the status with the assembly?
I was working on the design of the stand for my tank yesterday on sketchup but got so bored of tinkering with it I gave up... havent used that program in ages...
tchalo tchale abhi.... put it all together quickly :)

[syedjilani]

Some More.

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Tried to get close-ups.

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[A.G]

Is the tank ready yet ?????

[James404]

You have some amazing tanks, I am truely envious. :)

[nlandgraf]

Thanks for the pics, keep posting updates. It's going to be beautiful!

[syedjilani]

Is the tank ready yet ?????

Yesterday I was in the factory. The Glass guy called me and informed that glass is ready (Cutting, Grinding and polishing). It's really big.:eek2:

:dance:

He needs to cut down the back glass for overflow. I gave him measurements. Hope fully By this Thursday I will receive the glass :dance:

[syedjilani]

You have some amazing tanks, I am truely envious. :)

Thanks James. :thumbsup:

If you were in Saudi Arabia, :sad1: then I only able to send you whatever you like from my aquarium. Even all the stuff, which is making you envious.

I gave a lot of beautiful corals and other stuff to my friends from my tank. :strange:

[syedjilani]

Thanks for the pics, keep posting updates. It's going to be beautiful!

Thanks nlandgraf.

Yes i'll, just stay tuned. :thumbsup:

[syedjilani]

A Friend of mine gave me a beautiful Saddleback Clown :crazy1:.

I love this fish:fish1: , See what clown is doing with my Clams. :eek: .. :mad2: .. :furious:
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but the same time I love my blue maxima clam. :sad1:


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It did not reach to Squamosa Clam-Tridacna squamosa.

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I have to choose one, either Clown or my lovely clams.
What you guys say?

:rolleyes:

[v1...rotate]

Hi SJ,

Glad to see the stand arrived. It looks great... Will you use the roll out sump concept? If so, how?

Congrats on the new camera, the pictures and video look great.

I would keep the clam. It may catch the clown too :crazy1:

[syedjilani]

Hi SJ,

Glad to see the stand arrived. It looks great... Will you use the roll out sump concept? If so, how?

Congrats on the new camera, the pictures and video look great.

I would keep the clam. It may catch the clown too :crazy1:


Oh Yes, :dance: Really happy to see your post again. Well come brother.

The rollup sump concept, I did not integrate with the stand but in the same time I keep the concept as it was. I'll see if I need this in future. I already design my plumbing, which will not case hassle when you roll out the sump. You can see the stand in photos, the wheel place I keep as it is for future expansion.

Thanks.
I'll post, what came with Nikon D5000. I am not good in photography. I got first section from Nick. (One hour Class) .. :lol:

Both Blue Maxima looks injured. I don’t think, if I keep clown with clamps they will survive. I think Clown is strong enough. ... :uzi: .... :fish1:

[Greenmaster]

This looks awesome. I'll be watching.


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If you don't like what you are looking at you are looking at it the wrong way.
My 320g build/experiment http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1840581

[syedjilani]

This looks awesome. I'll be watching.

__________________
If you don't like what you are looking at you are looking at it the wrong way.
My 320g build/experiment http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1840581

Thanks Greenmaster for looking. Stay tuned. :thumbsup:

[syedjilani]

UPDATE:

I ended up with Nikon D5000 !!! I'm really pleased with this purchase so far. Everything is brand new!!!

Of course this is new addition in my 300G Reef.

Tripod, Nikon D5000 and Temron (AF70-300mm F/4-5.6 Di LD MACRO 1:2).

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I love the bag more than my new Nikon……:lol:

Battery been charged and already in the camera. Good thing was, the sales man gave me 8GB memory card instead of 4GB.


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Need how to get 100% benefit with this new machine.
Nikon user’s Manual . :reading:

Information from net :reading:


and


more . :reading:

[maroun.c]

Concerning the Clams Clown issue I would say get the clams away from his Anemone. He could be thinking it's a threat to his anemone as it's a bit close...
If he continues to follow and attack the clam like this definitly take him out.
Those are two very nice clams you got there.
If the second one is far and still getting attacked then your clown must have an apetite for clams and I would definitly chose a clam over a clown.
Congrats on the camera buy. the 70-300 I'm not really familiar with but I would say is not the ideal range for tank shots. what is the other lense in the pictures? is that the 18-50 Nikon?
could be a bit better than the 70-300 as it would focus a bit closer which will allow you to rest the camera on the glass when not on tripod... On great and cheap lense I found is the Tamron 17-50 2.8 it is faster than other lense as it's a fixed 2.8 and reasonably good quality even wide open and still costs only 3-400 Usd. most of my shots are taken with it.
What tripod is that? make sure it's good quality and stable enough to support your camera with the big lense wide open.

[syedjilani]

?Question here...

I Planed to put 1 inch of white styrofoam under my tank.

Q: should i go for 1.5 or 2 inches?

and I'm wondering how much it will compress after the tank is filled? There will be 1 to 2 inches compression in plumbing for adjusting the weight of tank. I'm thinking it couldn't possibly compress more than a 1/4 of an inch. My guess is it will compress by a couple of millimeters. Any thoughts or experiences? :confused:

[syedjilani]

Concerning the Clams Clown issue I would say get the clams away from his Anemone. He could be thinking it's a threat to his anemone as it's a bit close...
If he continues to follow and attack the clam like this definitly take him out.
Those are two very nice clams you got there.
If the second one is far and still getting attacked then your clown must have an apetite for clams and I would definitly chose a clam over a clown.
Congrats on the camera buy. the 70-300 I'm not really familiar with but I would say is not the ideal range for tank shots. what is the other lense in the pictures? is that the 18-50 Nikon?
could be a bit better than the 70-300 as it would focus a bit closer which will allow you to rest the camera on the glass when not on tripod... On great and cheap lense I found is the Tamron 17-50 2.8 it is faster than other lense as it's a fixed 2.8 and reasonably good quality even wide open and still costs only 3-400 Usd. most of my shots are taken with it.
What tripod is that? make sure it's good quality and stable enough to support your camera with the big lense wide open.

Seddalback really damaged the calm.... :mad2: . .. :furious:
The Exhalant aperture it’s been totally eaten and damaged. Mantles are damaged and eaten. Hope it will recover, but the beauty of Mantles are gone.

I took the clown out before it kill or completely damage my all clams.:uzi::fish1::hammer:

Thanks for appreciation. The 70-300 is not for tank shots, it is for out door use. The other one in the picture is Nikon DX (AF-S NIKKOR 18-55mm 1:3.5-5.6G VR).

Yes of course I will buy the lens what you recommended previously, I think it was Tamron 15-50 2.8 or maybe I will buy (Nikon 105mm f/2.8G ED-IF AF-S VR Micro-Nikkor Lens)

I don’t know exactly about tripod. I just like and bought it. For exact specification, I have to go through user’s manual, which I did not open until now. It looks strong enough.

:pOf course I need long classes from you to learn how to take good quality shots.:thumbsup:

[Greenmaster]

If you are going to put styrofoam under your tank do not use the white stuff. Use the blue/pink stuff that is very dense. I did a quick Google and found this http://www.aquariumadvice.com/forums/f12/should-i-use-styrofoam-under-my-tank-52809.html or http://ovas.ca/index.php?topic=22639.msg157340 I think it should answer your questions.

[mluz]

Awesome build!!

To my knowledge the use of Styrofoam panels under the tank is for acrylic tanks. Yours is a glass tank and i believe it is not recommended.

If you want to add some support to the bottom of the tank i would suggest plywood or something similar.

[Greenmaster]

Your tank is going to be custom made right? most tanks the glass bottom panel is raised but a custom one might not be. I am getting one that isn't raised and am going to be using styrofoam underneath mine. (at the recommendation of the tank builder)

[Mounda]

Hey Syed,

Just saw the build thread and it's looking great bro. Can't wait to see more progress and more pics.

[syedjilani]

If you are going to put styrofoam under your tank do not use the white stuff. Use the blue/pink stuff that is very dense. I did a quick Google and found this http://www.aquariumadvice.com/forums/f12/should-i-use-styrofoam-under-my-tank-52809.html or http://ovas.ca/index.php?topic=22639.msg157340 I think it should answer your questions.

Thanks Greenmaster.

I go through the whole thread. :reading: The Pink and Blue stuff is very difficult to find here. :sad1: I am trying to get some proper stuff from Naval complax....

BTW under my 120G tank I used 2 inches white Styrofoam. Nothing happen. I will try my best to find out some good stuff to put under 300G. :thumbsup:

[syedjilani]

Awesome build!!

To my knowledge the use of Styrofoam panels under the tank is for acrylic tanks. Yours is a glass tank and i believe it is not recommended.

If you want to add some support to the bottom of the tank i would suggest plywood or something similar.

Thank you mluz.

As you know that, Styrofoam is normally use to cover very miner gaps in between to surface. Of course, it can be used under acrylic or glass made tanks.

If I directly put my aquarium on plywood or something similar it would immediately leak, because, if there is any gap between glass and the surface under tank will take more pressure of water and get :eek1:

[syedjilani]

Your tank is going to be custom made right? most tanks the glass bottom panel is raised but a custom one might not be. I am getting one that isn't raised and am going to be using styrofoam underneath mine. (at the recommendation of the tank builder)

Yes, the tank is custom made. Shortly you will see some update photos of glass. Stay tuned.
:thumbsup:

[syedjilani]

Hey Syed,

Just saw the build thread and it's looking great bro. Can't wait to see more progress and more pics.


Thank you Mounda.

Yes, shortly you will see some more update. Stay tuned. :thumbsup:

[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Yes, Yes and yes :dance: .. .. :dance: . ...

:dance: Glass arrived yesterday.
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Back Glass in not in the photo. Back wall of tank will finish today.

[syedjilani]

UPDATE

One more shot of starphire and normal glass.
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[syedjilani]

I am waiting melev (Marc) reply for sump. I need his specialties in reef hobby.

It will be great support if anyone can help me to reach him????


Melev please wake up :mad:........ I have to final the sump. Please heeeeeelppp...

[shullat]

I am waiting melev (Marc) reply for sump. I need his specialties in reef hobby.

It will be great support if anyone can help me to reach him????


Melev please wake up :mad:........ I have to final the sump. Please heeeeeelppp...

Can't help you reach Melev, but if you are in dire need and can't wait anymore, I'll gladly relieve you of the glass and have the tank setup at my house, in exchange you get my gorgonian :) think about it. tempting tempting...

[syedjilani]

Can't help you reach Melev, but if you are in dire need and can't wait anymore, I'll gladly relieve you of the glass and have the tank setup at my house, in exchange you get my gorgonian :) think about it. tempting tempting...

I was thinking same, really want to relieve and give you my glass and setup the tank to your house, but the problem is, I just heard that government announced the Raw glass cannot moved from one place to another. Final exit is the penalty of this crime…. I want to stay more. :bum:

Now I am imagining, how beautiful look my aquarium IN MY HOUSE without YOUR gorgonian… :wildone:...... I changed my mind…... :lol: lol: . ... :lolspin:

[doakota1]

sent you a pm

[syedjilani]

sent you a pm

Thanks doakota1.

I will send him e-mail.:thumbsup:

[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Back Glass Back ground..... :dance: . In the panter shop.

Black Color on the base.
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He has done great job on Black. I was too much excited what will come out when finish all of this.



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UPDATE

He started Dark blue. More excitement...... .:worried:

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His Boss was standing beside us giving him instructions, at last he could not stay, came and start painting...:eek2: . . . :eek2:. Boss is always great.

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[Greenmaster]

That's exactly the way I was going to do the background of my tank... then I decided that I'm not going to have a background.

[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Final Product... :dance:... From the back. Look great ...:spin3:..... They have done beautiful job.

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Until now I don't know how the front looks like.. :worried:

[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Beautiful, :bounce1: . Beautiful, :bounce3: . :dance:.. ... Well Done Guys. :thumbdown: . oh, I think thumb should be up . . :thumbsup:

At my home.


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[syedjilani]

That's exactly the way I was going to do the background of my tank... then I decided that I'm not going to have a background.

Any reason that you decided not to have color background. It looks good.

[Greenmaster]

It's going in a big window and I still want to be able to peak outside... as well as see the tank from the other side. :D

[A.G]

sweet back ground !!

very god job you have done so far.

[maroun.c]

so external overflow...
Will you have an internal overflow box fromt he inside or just the screens on the groves and then an external box?

[syedjilani]

It's going in a big window and I still want to be able to peak outside... as well as see the tank from the other side. :D

Good idea, but i think direct light from outside will case a lot of unnecessary algae in the tank.

I thing you have to concentrate a lot on tank lighting.

[syedjilani]

sweet back ground !!

very god job you have done so far.

Thanks Ahmed. BTW, where are you?

I am doing my best. Whatever is going on, it is summary of my experience, but still need suggestions from you people. :(



Today Glass will be :dance: . . . :dance: .

[syedjilani]

so external overflow...
Will you have an internal overflow box from the inside or just the screens on the groves and then an external box?


Yes Bro, external overflow….

Overflow boxes will be totally out. The water level is adjusted as 5 cm inside the tank, and will drain from 40 x 2 sided Routed teeth in acrylic (You will see how it will be congregate with overflow), and will drain in the boxes. Herbie super silent overflow drain I used in the boxes. (UPDATE will come soon)

My planned is to use 100% area inside the tank for better flow and aquascaping.

:thumbsup:

[A.G]

Hey sayed,

work is killing me !

The zoos are doing great.... Have you had the chance to frag that bird nest yet?

When are you going to silicon the tank?

[Mounda]

Syed,

If you are going to use an external glass overflow box shouldn't you silicone it to the back panel before spray painting it because of adhesion issues ? Or are you going to use a ready made overflow box ?

[syedjilani]

Syed,
If you are going to use an external glass overflow box shouldn't you silicone it to the back panel before spray painting it because of adhesion issues ? Or are you going to use a ready made overflow box ?

Sorry for late reply guys.
Mounda,
.. You are right.


I realized after beck panel get painted....:confused: Coloring the back glass with external overfloe is my first esperience. That adhesion issue will be there when overflow boxes going to be silicon on the back glass.

The person who silicone the tank, got the solution. I will post the photos when it’s glued on coming Thursday.
:thumbsup:

Any suggestion from anyone???? :confused:

[syedjilani]

Hey sayed,

work is killing me !

The zoos are doing great.... Have you had the chance to frag that bird nest yet?

When are you going to silicon the tank?

Did not get any chance to frag the bird Nest, even the glass of existing tank is too much dirty, no time for cleaning and maintenence. Even no water changes this week. :(

Just concentrating new tank. :reading:

You know how difficult this is.

Anyway, I got god quality of Plastic Elastomer Foam to put under the tank. Quite good stuff.


The Tank has been silicone this Thursday. Shortly you will see the update.
;)

[syedjilani]

UPDATE

:dance: . . Tank on it's way. . :dance:

The Guys line up the paper tape for silicon.
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[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Front Glass . . . :dance: be careful guys . :eek2: . . It's expensive one, Star fire....lol
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[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Back Glass. . . :dance: . . Love the paint. . . :cool:
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[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Silicone . . :dance: . .

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They Start their work. . :dance: . .

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[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Yes, Yes and Yes . :dance: :dance: .. Here we go.... tank ready . :spin3:

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[skinnywater]

Cool, love the paint job.

[A.G]

finally some action

[syedjilani]

Cool, love the paint job.

Thanks Skinnywater.

[syedjilani]

finally some action

Yes Ahmed, a lot of new things on the way.....;)

[syedjilani]

SUMP PLAN D

Guys any suggestion?
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[syedjilani]

PLUMBING

I changed plumbing according to Sump Plan D. :spin3: Any suggestion???

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[kkil4life]

dude, u stopped posting on MASUAE come back
:)
its got a new address now www.masuae.org

and about ur setup, GO BIGGER on the return or else u'll end up topping of everyday
also the skimmer, think about the octopus extreme or the super reef octopus both of which are better than the needlewheel octo
go with either the sicce pump or the bubble blaster, the bubble blasters are beasts and perfect for ur tank, the sicce is what I have and I love it, but I've only got a 75g

[kkil4life]

oh and lastly, for the plumbing look at the durso for reducing noise from the overflow
the way u have it (straight pipes) makes a lot of noise.
otherwise u can just use two 90degree elbows to make a durso which is also good (not sure if this works 100%)
u have lots of space so rather than TWO overflows, go with one coast to coast, look it up here on RC and you will see what I mean

[syedjilani]

dude, u stopped posting on MASUAE come back
:)
its got a new address now www.masuae.org

and about ur setup, GO BIGGER on the return or else u'll end up topping of everyday
also the skimmer, think about the octopus extreme or the super reef octopus both of which are better than the needlewheel octo go with either the sicce pump or the bubble blaster, the bubble blasters are beasts and perfect for ur tank, the sicce is what I have and I love it, but I've only got a 75g

Hi KKil4life,
Thanks you for your posting and valuable suggestions. I am facing problem to login in MASUAE. Couple of days before I send a request to Moderator, until today I didn’t receive any reply so no posting.

I want to start my 300G thread on MASUAS as well but cannot login.

:lmao:LOL….. here YOU NEED just little understanding that, whatever the volume of water will return by the pump in the main tank the same volume will drain in the sump….. lol:lolspin:.

BTW I already ordered Tunze top off (3155.000 Osmolator Universal) Hope it will work according Manufacturer promises.:bum:

Lol :lmao:again….. In my existing 120G tank, I am using Weipro 2014 with successful result. What about DNWB-200 needle wheel, it will not work…… lol. Nothing is perfect for any system. My understanding is installing an expensive equipment is not the key of success, you just have to understand that what you are doing.

Stay Tune. You will see more update. :thumbsup:

[syedjilani]

oh and lastly, for the plumbing look at the durso for reducing noise from the overflow
the way u have it (straight pipes) makes a lot of noise.
otherwise u can just use two 90degree elbows to make a durso which is also good (not sure if this works 100%)
u have lots of space so rather than TWO overflows, go with one coast to coast, look it up here on RC and you will see what I mean


The plumbing Diagram is showing the route of water. I will defiantly post all the photos of equipment, which I will use in any step.

I am using Herbie super silent overflow drain. . . :cool: .. :reading: . After long observation and research, me, A.G. (Ahmed) and Nick came on conclusion to use Herbie super silent overflow, which is 100% safe and no voice at all.

Regarding Overflow, See the reefbum thread or his article http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/...e-success.html

I got excellent information on his post.

My HAT is down for ReefBum (Keith)
:thumbsup:

[syedjilani]

More update on the way. I'll post the photos today night. Stay Tuned.....:)

[The Reef Expert]

هل من الصعب شراء حوض السمك الماشية هناك في المملكة العربية السعودية؟

[kkil4life]

regarding MASUAE, the old forum no longer works.
you need to REGISTER again at the new site www.masuae.org, we moved from a free site to a paid site so all information was lost and you need to make a new user name and password
come back to us.....lol

[kkil4life]

as for the herbie, its an awesome system to use

what I meant about using ONE coast to coast rather than two overflows was not for the turnover of water, it has more to do with surface skimming. I might be wrong but have a read thru this
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1310585
you can still do the plumbing your way, but you just make the overflow box coast to coast
this was u get a larger area for surface skimming

[syedjilani]

regarding MASUAE, the old forum no longer works.
you need to REGISTER again at the new site www.masuae.org, we moved from a free site to a paid site so all information was lost and you need to make a new user name and password
come back to us.....lol

Thanks for information. Of couse I will start my 300G thread on MASUAE.

Stay Tuned.....

Thanks

[A.G]

هل من الصعب شراء حوض السمك الماشية هناك في المملكة العربية السعودية؟

LOL whats kinda translator did you use?

[syedjilani]

هل من الصعب شراء حوض السمك الماشية هناك في المملكة العربية السعودية؟

هنا في المملكة العربية السعودية جميع الامور الخاصة بالاحواض المائية متوفرة ولكن يجب عليك العمل بجهد كبير لايجادها ، جميع اغراضي الخاصة بالاسماك مستوردة من امريكا وبريطانيا وسنغفورة وماليزيا ، لان الاسعار هناك رخيصة مقارنة بالاسعار داخل المملكة العربية السعودية .

شكرا على مشاركتك

تحية وسلام عليكم

:thumbsup:

[Allmost]

Nice Tank Habibi :)

love the paint job.

[syedjilani]

LOL whats kinda translator did you use?

:lmao::lmao: Ahmed It was you. . :lol: . . :lolspin:

:lolspin: . I asked my collegue that some one send me message in Arabic, I don't know what is this. He translate and wrote what ever he know about my system.... . :lol: . . :lolspin:

[syedjilani]

Nice Tank Habibi :)

love the paint job.


WOW.....!!
:lmao: . . SUKRAN HABABI KALBI . . :)

Thanks for lovely words from beautiful Canada.

Stay tuned......:thumbsup:

[syedjilani]

as for the herbie, its an awesome system to use

what I meant about using ONE coast to coast rather than two overflows was not for the turnover of water, it has more to do with surface skimming. I might be wrong but have a read thru this
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1310585
you can still do the plumbing your way, but you just make the overflow box coast to coast
this was u get a larger area for surface skimming

You are right and I am 100% agree with you to skimming the surface of tank as much as possible. Infect before starting anything, I made poll of overflow for 300G tanks, that what will fit for my tank. What I got, result is front of you guys.

Yes, I have been gone through BeanAnimal Silent overflow. But the problem is, it can only be used in the tanks with sump room beside it, not in my case. It requires more space to the back of the tank.

[syedjilani]

Guys any suggestion on SUMP PLAN D

:reading:

SUMP PLAN D

Guys any suggestion?
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[Greenmaster]

It looks really good to me... but I am one who likes redundancy so I would go with 2 pumps at half the strength rather then just one pump... that way if one fails you still have circulation and if you happen to be away your fish don't die.

[Cablemike]

that painted backgroung is stunning.. cant wait to see how dramatic of an effect it makes when filled.

[syedjilani]

It looks really good to me... but I am one who likes redundancy so I would go with 2 pumps at half the strength rather then just one pump... that way if one fails you still have circulation and if you happen to be away your fish don't die.

Thanks you Gteenmaster.

Good idea, I would thing about it. :reading: But i think two pumps will case more heat compare to single pump.

Of course, if aquarium has optimal water condition the fish will not dead immediately. whenever I go for snorkeling and catch fishes. In the bucket, they survive 4 hours without having any stress. 300G is a huge volume if the circulation pump fails.

[syedjilani]

that painted backgroung is stunning.. cant wait to see how dramatic of an effect it makes when filled.

Thanks Cablemike.

Thank you for looking on my thread and curiosity....

Stay tuned .... there is a lot of update on the way.... :thumbsup:

[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Some stuff (Bulkhead) for over flow.

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[syedjilani]

UPDATE

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[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Overflow boxes are ready. :dance: :bum:
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UPDATE

silicone the boxes. . . :dance: . .

:dance:


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[syedjilani]

After a month, I made water change 30%. An hour later, my clams get Horney and start spawning, see how they were doing . . . … ..

You can see small eggs. spreading all over the tank. I think good food for Corals.
Clam Spawning

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[rpjaws74]

very nice

[syedjilani]

very nice

Thank you rpjaws....

[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Euro Bracing ready..... . :dance: ....

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[Greenmaster]

Looking good.

[mr.wilson]

A 24" tall tank should have 13mm/1/2" glass, but your 10mm is tempered so you should be okay. Keep in mind, the thickness isn't just to limit panel flex, it also creates a larger bond at the seam. The aquarium is only as good as its weakest link.

The related issue is the flex of the thinner panels putting more stress on the seams. Your eurobrace is undersized for this task as it is a structural element like the panels of the tank itself. I recommend adding a 13mm eurobrace under the one you have already siliconed in place. This will give you more security in keeping the tank from bowing/flexing and putting stress on the corner seams.

Cutting channels in the back panel for an external overflow weakens the panel. For this reason, the back panel is usually thicker or tempered. The overflow channels are stronger if a hole saw is used to round the corners of the cut-out. Usually two parallel holes are drilled and a diamond saw is used to join the two holes. The sharp 90 degree angles of your overflow channels are another weak link. A strip of glass siliconed perpendicular (90 degree angle) along the back wall will act as a brace. The overfow boxes themselves are traditionally used as a form of bracing, but in your case the glass looks too thin to be structural. It is stronger to make one longer glass box rather than two smaller ones. If the panel wasn't tempered you could drill two new holes and cut one long "coast-to-coast" overflow for better surface skimming. The way you have it now may allow particles and surfactants to be trapped on the surface between the two boxes.

I would also add a 3" x 13mm eurobrace at the bottom of the tank along the front and back only. This will strengthen the joint by decreasing deflection and offering a much bigger bond area.

I like the paint effect. Stephen Spotte's book http://books.google.ca/books?id=tMeuQ4v_m0YC&dq=stephen+spotte+aquarium+book&printsec=frontcover&source=in&hl=en&ei=XYUXTNLeDIOBlAfj27DBCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=12&ved=0CEIQ6AEwCw#v=onepage&q=stephen%20spotte%20aquarium%20book&f=false lists the exact colour codes used by public aquariums to match the look of the sea in a similar gradient style to your paint job.

[DreamMachine]

Nice, I wish I have overflows like that!

[syedjilani]

Looking good.

Thank you Greenmaster.

[syedjilani]

A 24" tall tank should have 13mm/1/2" glass, but your 10mm is tempered so you should be okay. Keep in mind, the thickness isn't just to limit panel flex, it also creates a larger bond at the seam. The aquarium is only as good as its weakest link.

The related issue is the flex of the thinner panels putting more stress on the seams. Your eurobrace is undersized for this task as it is a structural element like the panels of the tank itself. I recommend adding a 13mm eurobrace under the one you have already siliconed in place. This will give you more security in keeping the tank from bowing/flexing and putting stress on the corner seams.

Cutting channels in the back panel for an external overflow weakens the panel. For this reason, the back panel is usually thicker or tempered. The overflow channels are stronger if a hole saw is used to round the corners of the cut-out. Usually two parallel holes are drilled and a diamond saw is used to join the two holes. The sharp 90 degree angles of your overflow channels are another weak link. A strip of glass siliconed perpendicular (90 degree angle) along the back wall will act as a brace. The overfow boxes themselves are traditionally used as a form of bracing, but in your case the glass looks too thin to be structural. It is stronger to make one longer glass box rather than two smaller ones. If the panel wasn't tempered you could drill two new holes and cut one long "coast-to-coast" overflow for better surface skimming. The way you have it now may allow particles and surfactants to be trapped on the surface between the two boxes.

I would also add a 3" x 13mm eurobrace at the bottom of the tank along the front and back only. This will strengthen the joint by decreasing deflection and offering a much bigger bond area.

I like the paint effect. Stephen Spotte's book http://books.google.ca/books?id=tMeuQ4v_m0YC&dq=stephen+spotte+aquarium+book&printsec=frontcover&source=in&hl=en&ei=XYUXTNLeDIOBlAfj27DBCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=12&ved=0CEIQ6AEwCw#v=onepage&q=stephen%20spotte%20aquarium%20book&f=false lists the exact colour codes used by public aquariums to match the look of the sea in a similar gradient style to your paint job.

Thank you mr. Wilson,

As you can see in the photo 12mm bracing is ready, which is going to be silicon on the bottom of the tank.

I used all tampered Glass. The bracing which is beside the tank will silicon in the bottom of tank. I think I have to add more bracing as you said under the one I have already silicone in place, it will give more security.

The back panel is tempered and the overflow channels made with two parallel holes in the corners to make them round for more security. Of course, the corners of overflow boxes are not sharp as 90 degree; these are round.

The coast-to-coast overflow is out of the topic, because of tempered glass.:( In my 120 gallon tank, there is only 4 x 4 inches overflow box, I didn,t find any problem to skimming the surface.
Good suggestion, I will add 2 more 12 or 13mm eurobrac at the bottom of the tank from front to back only.

Thanks for likeness of paint effect.

Thank you for your valuable suggestions. :)

Stay tuned.......

[syedjilani]

Nice, I wish I have overflows like that!

Thank you dream machine.

[Mounda]

A 24" tall tank should have 13mm/1/2" glass, but your 10mm is tempered so you should be okay. Keep in mind, the thickness isn't just to limit panel flex, it also creates a larger bond at the seam. The aquarium is only as good as its weakest link.

The related issue is the flex of the thinner panels putting more stress on the seams. Your eurobrace is undersized for this task as it is a structural element like the panels of the tank itself. I recommend adding a 13mm eurobrace under the one you have already siliconed in place. This will give you more security in keeping the tank from bowing/flexing and putting stress on the corner seams.

Cutting channels in the back panel for an external overflow weakens the panel. For this reason, the back panel is usually thicker or tempered. The overflow channels are stronger if a hole saw is used to round the corners of the cut-out. Usually two parallel holes are drilled and a diamond saw is used to join the two holes. The sharp 90 degree angles of your overflow channels are another weak link. A strip of glass siliconed perpendicular (90 degree angle) along the back wall will act as a brace. The overfow boxes themselves are traditionally used as a form of bracing, but in your case the glass looks too thin to be structural. It is stronger to make one longer glass box rather than two smaller ones. If the panel wasn't tempered you could drill two new holes and cut one long "coast-to-coast" overflow for better surface skimming. The way you have it now may allow particles and surfactants to be trapped on the surface between the two boxes.

I would also add a 3" x 13mm eurobrace at the bottom of the tank along the front and back only. This will strengthen the joint by decreasing deflection and offering a much bigger bond area.

I like the paint effect. Stephen Spotte's book http://books.google.ca/books?id=tMeuQ4v_m0YC&dq=stephen+spotte+aquarium+book&printsec=frontcover&source=in&hl=en&ei=XYUXTNLeDIOBlAfj27DBCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=12&ved=0CEIQ6AEwCw#v=onepage&q=stephen%20spotte%20aquarium%20book&f=false lists the exact colour codes used by public aquariums to match the look of the sea in a similar gradient style to your paint job.

Tempered glass increases the strength of the glass, it does not reduce bowing. Providing you have adequate bracing on the top and bottom your 10mm is ok. I have 2 metal rims on my tank and it is 26" deep. The length of the tank is another factor when determining the thickness of the glass.

How thick are the overflow boxes ? I would silicone the gaskets to the glass just to make sure everything is sealed tight. I noticed that the glass worker removed some paint off the upper edges to provide a clean surface for the overflow box to hang onto the back, clever idea but why didn't he remove the edges to increase the surface area of the joint ?

Looking good Syed, you could start cycling in a week or 2.

[syedjilani]

Thank you Mounda,

What kind of metal you used for your tank rims. Is it iron or aluminum? I made a rim only for bottom of the tank. Planning to have another rim for the top of tank, but after water test, if it needs.

I am bit confuse here that, if I use Iron for top rim, after time it will definitely get rust, and I don’t think so that aluminum will able to hold the pressure of glass and will help to reduce bowing.

I already have many brace on the top and bottom; I hope which will support to reduce bowing.

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I used 8mm thickness glass for back wall of overflow, which attached with tank back wall which is 10mm. Base glass is 8mm as well, all other glasses i.e. both sides, and front glasses are 4mm to reduce the weight of overflow.

Infect I removed the color from the top of the back panel, but it was just spoiling the paintwork, nothing else. The overflow boxes attached quite well on painted surface, and looking much stronger. I put a lot of force to check that they can hold water weight and will able to stick in future on the painted background.

It will spoil the whole look of background if he removes the surface area of the joint. Everything is quite fine and strong.

I have to wait until silicon dry properly. Most probably coming Monday or Tuesday I will test water.

[Greenmaster]

I'm no expert but your euro bracing looks good to me... I think it will be fine. (but it's in your house so it's your call)

[mr.wilson]

Thank you Mounda,

What kind of metal you used for your tank rims. Is it iron or aluminum? I made a rim only for bottom of the tank. Planning to have another rim for the top of tank, but after water test, if it needs.

I am bit confuse here that, if I use Iron for top rim, after time it will definitely get rust, and I don’t think so that aluminum will able to hold the pressure of glass and will help to reduce bowing.

I already have many brace on the top and bottom; I hope which will support to reduce bowing.

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I used 8mm thickness glass for back wall of overflow, which attached with tank back wall which is 10mm. Base glass is 8mm as well, all other glasses i.e. both sides, and front glasses are 4mm to reduce the weight of overflow.

Infect I removed the color from the top of the back panel, but it was just spoiling the paintwork, nothing else. The overflow boxes attached quite well on painted surface, and looking much stronger. I put a lot of force to check that they can hold water weight and will able to stick in future on the painted background.

It will spoil the whole look of background if he removes the surface area of the joint. Everything is quite fine and strong.

I have to wait until silicon dry properly. Most probably coming Monday or Tuesday I will test water.

I didn't realize that some of the glass was thicker (8mm), I only saw the thin stuff (4mm). This is good.

Metal braces/frame should be epoxy coated, galvanized, or stainless steel. I recently worked on a 1000 gallon tank that had broken due to a metal frame that had rusted and expanded to break the front glass which was 5 layers of 1/4" (6.35mm) laminated and tempered safety glass. The total thickness was 1 1/4" or 31.75 mm tempered & laminated. Yes, aluminum has too much flex unless it is a profile (channel, I beam, or cross like 80/20). You should also use a layer of neoprene foam or EPDM rubber to cushion the contact between the metal and glass.

Yes, you can silicone directly onto the painted surface for the overflow box. It will not let go.

[syedjilani]

I'm no expert but your euro bracing looks good to me... I think it will be fine. (but it's in your house so it's your call)

Thank you Greenmaster.:cool:

Stay tuned...... ;)

[syedjilani]

I didn't realize that some of the glass was thicker (8mm), I only saw the thin stuff (4mm). This is good.

Metal braces/frame should be epoxy coated, galvanized, or stainless steel. I recently worked on a 1000 gallon tank that had broken due to a metal frame that had rusted and expanded to break the front glass which was 5 layers of 1/4" (6.35mm) laminated and tempered safety glass. The total thickness was 1 1/4" or 31.75 mm tempered & laminated. Yes, aluminum has too much flex unless it is a profile (channel, I beam, or cross like 80/20). You should also use a layer of neoprene foam or EPDM rubber to cushion the contact between the metal and glass.

Yes, you can silicone directly onto the painted surface for the overflow box. It will not let go.

Thank you mr.wilson,

I am trying to get stainless frame.

I was too much worry about overflow boxes, . :confused: . how it will silicone on painted surface, but after silicone the boxes it looks very strong and release my tension. . :rollface: . .


Stay tuned and please always add your valuable suggestion in all the way. . :)

[syedjilani]

LIGHTING PLAN

Here it goes......

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[Greenmaster]

Wow looks nice. Like the rest of your build :-)

[maroun.c]

Looks good for the lights Syed.
Are you planning to have SE or DE bulbs as in this area SE bulbs are harder to find.
Might consider the bulbs before purchasing the ballasts as you might need to shift to DE bulbs in case yo udon't want to ship each time. In that case the Lumenbright doesn't come in DE large it only comes as a pendant for DE so not a reflector and comes in only one one size the mini which is 16.5x16.5 x7 and needs to be on a different level from the water. So check all those before you finalize the plans of your canopy...
Also try to get decent ballasts at the same time (IceCaps...)or at least check that those match the best with the bulbs you plan to run)'ll have a lot more power with the LB and dimming makes acclimating a bit easier...
Best to get the dimmable ones if your reef was running on regular reflectors we use here as you
Then expect to pay around 4-500 USD more in shipping and add to that a bit more for customs. Been through all that for some time to get my ligthing and the best way for me was to go with the Groupbuy they organized from Dubai and that saved me a bit in shipping....

[Mounda]

I didn't realize that some of the glass was thicker (8mm), I only saw the thin stuff (4mm). This is good.

Metal braces/frame should be epoxy coated, galvanized, or stainless steel. I recently worked on a 1000 gallon tank that had broken due to a metal frame that had rusted and expanded to break the front glass which was 5 layers of 1/4" (6.35mm) laminated and tempered safety glass. The total thickness was 1 1/4" or 31.75 mm tempered & laminated. Yes, aluminum has too much flex unless it is a profile (channel, I beam, or cross like 80/20). You should also use a layer of neoprene foam or EPDM rubber to cushion the contact between the metal and glass.

Yes, you can silicone directly onto the painted surface for the overflow box. It will not let go.

The whole idea of using the metal frame on top is to have more space on top since the brace will be on the outside perimeter instead of being across.

Stainless steel is the way to go but even that will rust with time. We are talking about salt water. You could powder coat your rims to provide an extra layer of safety.

Instead of using foam or neoprene to cushion the metal frame to the glass I used silicone, it fills the gaps and is slightly compressible.

[Mounda]

Thank you mr.wilson,

I am trying to get stainless frame.

I was too much worry about overflow boxes, . :confused: . how it will silicone on painted surface, but after silicone the boxes it looks very strong and release my tension. . :rollface: . .


Stay tuned and please always add your valuable suggestion in all the way. . :)

The problem regarding the overflow is not a short term one but instead it is a long term issue. The silicone has adhered to the paint, the problem will arise if the paint chips. Since you got this done professionally then I doubt you will experience this issue any time soon. Another point to consider is the adherence of the silicone to the overflow box and the vertical pressure exerted by the water, if the paint is not hard enough and the silicone has adhered well to the paint then the overflow box's weight might pull the paint off. However again, you adhered the back of the overflow box to a very large surface area increasing the weight load on a larger area of paint so the pressure per inch has been reduced drastically.

You could have used some rock work to cover up any paint that was removed for silicone to adhere :)

Just some point to take into consideration.

[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Bottom braces silicone last Thursday. I was waiting to get completely dry. . :dance:


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Time is very near to be WET ... WET...:dance:

[syedjilani]

UPDATE

First water Test... :spin1: . :dance:

WET .... WET ... :dance: .

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[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Half Tank filled. With out ..... :worried:

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[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Full tank fillllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll lled.. . :eek2: :spin2:

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Filled some water in over flow boxes for test leackage ... :(

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[syedjilani]

UPDATE

No bow at all in front and back Glass. ... :spin3: :spin1: :dance:

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[syedjilani]

Looks good for the lights Syed.
Are you planning to have SE or DE bulbs as in this area SE bulbs are harder to find.
Might consider the bulbs before purchasing the ballasts as you might need to shift to DE bulbs in case yo udon't want to ship each time. In that case the Lumenbright doesn't come in DE large it only comes as a pendant for DE so not a reflector and comes in only one one size the mini which is 16.5x16.5 x7 and needs to be on a different level from the water. So check all those before you finalize the plans of your canopy...
Also try to get decent ballasts at the same time (IceCaps...)or at least check that those match the best with the bulbs you plan to run)'ll have a lot more power with the LB and dimming makes acclimating a bit easier...
Best to get the dimmable ones if your reef was running on regular reflectors we use here as you
Then expect to pay around 4-500 USD more in shipping and add to that a bit more for customs. Been through all that for some time to get my ligthing and the best way for me was to go with the Groupbuy they organized from Dubai and that saved me a bit in shipping....

Thanks maroun.

I will use SE bulbs. My understanding about MH is that, DE has less PAR and more UV radiations, which promote to burn corals head. .

Here we have quite a big verity of SE available in the market. I am trying to make pendant for SE here locally. I have already talked with the factory that can make Lumen bright according my specifications and same as what they are selling in USA. I will update once I got something good in my hand or if not I will purchase from Premium Aquatic.

Currently I am using German Made Vossloh Schwabe Ballast and too much happy with it.

[syedjilani]

The problem regarding the overflow is not a short term one but instead it is a long term issue. The silicone has adhered to the paint, the problem will arise if the paint chips. Since you got this done professionally then I doubt you will experience this issue any time soon. Another point to consider is the adherence of the silicone to the overflow box and the vertical pressure exerted by the water, if the paint is not hard enough and the silicone has adhered well to the paint then the overflow box's weight might pull the paint off. However again, you adhered the back of the overflow box to a very large surface area increasing the weight load on a larger area of paint so the pressure per inch has been reduced drastically.

You could have used some rock work to cover up any paint that was removed for silicone to adhere :)

Just some point to take into consideration.



Thank you Mounda,

My understanding is water base paint get chips; I have never seen oil base paint get chips at the temperature of 26C.

lol.... Let see what will come up in future. Just stay tune.....;)

[Greenmaster]

Looks Great can't wait to see it all plumbed in.

[syedjilani]

Looks Great can't wait to see it all plumbed in.

Thank you Greenmaster,

Stay tune...;)

[v1...rotate]

Looking good SJ!! You must be excited. I certainly was when I was at your stage.

Hope the other info helps too!

[Mounda]

You can make your own Lumenarc reflector from stainless steel sheets.

This is what it cost:

0.4mm stainless steel sheet, enough to make 2 reflectors $10
Stainless steel cutter $4
Ceramic mogul socket $3

DIY works like a charm in this part of the world.

What kind of SE bulbs are available in ksa ? Any radiums or reeflux ?

[mr.wilson]

Thank you Mounda,

My understanding is water base paint get chips; I have never seen oil base paint get chips at the temperature of 26C.

lol.... Let see what will come up in future. Just stay tune.....;)

Your oil base paint will last forever as long as you don't fill the tank with cold water. I have seen oil base paint peel, bubble and chip many times when cold water is added for the initial test fill. The cold water causes condensation on the glass beneath the paint. As you have stated your paint will be safe at 26 degrees... even with 50 degree Jeddah weather :)

[mr.wilson]

Thank you Mounda,

My understanding is water base paint get chips; I have never seen oil base paint get chips at the temperature of 26C.

lol.... Let see what will come up in future. Just stay tune.....;)

Water based acrylic paint actually sticks better than oil or polyurethane paint. It is also more tolerant to condensation as it can "breathe" better. I have taken paint off of hundreds of tanks and oil is easier than acrylic. Removing acrylic paint works best when you soak the tank in a vat of warm water then use a raiser blade. Oil paint can be removed by razor blade, but once you get started it peels off in sheets without water. Your tank will have good adhesion because it was painted with a sprayer in thin layers. The biggest mistake with oil paint is doing it in one thick coat. It takes three coats with any kind of paint.

Don't worry, you have a lot of surface area so the paint is not the weak link.

[mr.wilson]

You can make your own Lumenarc reflector from stainless steel sheets.

This is what it cost:

0.4mm stainless steel sheet, enough to make 2 reflectors $10
Stainless steel cutter $4
Ceramic mogul socket $3

DIY works like a charm in this part of the world.

What kind of SE bulbs are available in ksa ? Any radiums or reeflux ?

Yes, not much to it. Some of the DIY threads were removed due to patent infringement, but this one is still active. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=12983988

[syedjilani]

Yes, not much to it. Some of the DIY threads were removed due to patent infringement, but this one is still active. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=12983988


Thank you mr.wilson,

I found a good DIY lumenarc thread, :( . :sad1: . but the problem is how to get BP drawings or AutoCAD drawings. below is one of the best link for DIT reflectors:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1343381&page=2

:( If anyone can provide AutoCAD drawings, then...................................

[syedjilani]

I solve the problem.:beachbum:

If anyone is interested..... Here it goes....:cool:
14" Lumenarc

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[Mounda]

Don't forget to print it to scale and to wear industrial gloves when cutting the metal sheet if you do it yourself.

[syedjilani]

You can make your own Lumenarc reflector from stainless steel sheets.

This is what it cost:

0.4mm stainless steel sheet, enough to make 2 reflectors $10
Stainless steel cutter $4
Ceramic mogul socket $3

DIY works like a charm in this part of the world.

What kind of SE bulbs are available in ksa ? Any radiums or reeflux ?


You are absolutely right "DIY works like a charm in this part of the world", I just want to enjoy my 300g build, DIY Lumenarc reflector is an idea, if I did not get anything look good after production then I will order from premium aquatic.

0.5mm Glass finished stainless steel sheet is costing me 67$.
Workman ship is not included. My expectation is 120$ for three pieces.

As I told you that 250 watt SE and DE is very difficult to find here. 150w and 400w are available here. Of course, radium and reeflux is diffecult to find. I will use 10 K 400 watt XM.

[syedjilani]

Don't forget to print it to scale and to wear industrial gloves when cutting the metal sheet if you do it yourself.

Hahahahah....... ya, hope fully I will not forget to print that out to scale lol... .

I have to take care of my hands too and keep them safe until I reach rockwork. Salt water will ...k my hands, if something happen while cutting the sheet..;)

[syedjilani]

UPDATE

In normal conditions 5 liters of water I lost every day (evaporation) from 120g, adding 5 liters was not a big issue since I started 120g, but when Nick told me that 9 liters :eek2: of water evaporate every day from his 210G, then I decided to kill the problem and at last before starting tank installed 5 stages Reverse Osmosis Systems with the help of Nick:beachbum:. Deionizer will be installed later along with UV sterilizer.

Thanks Nick for suggestion, purchasing and specially installation.

Here it goes.......

5 stages Reverse Osmosis Systems

The Box.

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[syedjilani]

what was inside the box.

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[syedjilani]

It was quite hard to open, thank to Nick.

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Installation of RO system.

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[syedjilani]

At last some thing wet come out from the pipe....:eek2:


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[syedjilani]

This guy has been kicked out from beautiful Radianthus Malu, staying beside of it.:(

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The reason is new addition of a pair of clown.:)

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[Greenmaster]

I like the guy who lost his home... if you lived closer I would say I would give it a home :D

[syedjilani]

This guy messed up my DSB. Tons of sand move every day....:uzi:

I don't think so that it will go in my 300G.. :hammer:...

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[syedjilani]

I like the guy who lost his home... if you lived closer I would say I would give it a home :D

Hahahahaha....... if you got a better home for him, take it...... :lmao:

[Greenmaster]

My tank isn't ready yet and it would probably die in transit.

[Mounda]

UPDATE

In normal conditions 5 liters of water I lost every day (evaporation) from 120g, adding 5 liters was not a big issue since I started 120g, but when Nick told me that 9 liters :eek2: of water evaporate every day from his 210G, then I decided to kill the problem and at last before starting tank installed 5 stages Reverse Osmosis Systems with the help of Nick:beachbum:. Deionizer will be installed later along with UV sterilizer.

Thanks Nick for suggestion, purchasing and specially installation.

Here it goes.......

5 stages Reverse Osmosis Systems

The Box.

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Syed,

Congrats on the new RO system. Just want to point out something.

The RO systems available around here are mainly for drinking water meaning that the stage after the RO membrane is a post membrane cartridge that converts the water into palatable water for drinking. The 5th stage usually adds minerals to the water so you want to check that out.

If your system is like mine you can modify the RO/DI system to give dual outputs. A DI water faucet and a drinking water one (RO+post membrane cartridge). So it's good for the fish and could be good for your health if you use normal tap water.

[Fire_KA]

Great looking build, I hope all is going well.

Greetings RC!

Another hobbiest in Saudi Arabia (Riyadh)

[syedjilani]

Great looking build, I hope all is going well.

Greetings RC!

Another hobbiest in Saudi Arabia (Riyadh)

Well come on board and nice to have one more reefer in K.S.A....,

Thank you for your interest bro....

Stay tune, a lot more update is on the way.... :thumbsup:

[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Sump Glass arrived. :dance: . .8mm thickness. Initially my plan was to convert existing aquarium as sump and existing sump as frag tank, but do not want to disturb my corals. I will transfer old tank stuff once 300G get mature.

SUMP GLASS with Protein skimmer (Reef Octopus DNWB200)


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[syedjilani]

UPDATE

They started to silicone the Sump . . :dance:

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While I was draining test water from the tank,, today we have to put tank on the stand....:dance: ... and sump on it's place........:dance:

[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Sump is ready....:dance: . .

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[mr.wilson]

Good thing you have a very well designed aquarium stand. The sump will fit in easily. Some stand designs don't allow for easy installation and removal if something goes wrong.

Keep up the good work.

[Greenmaster]

Looks good... I wish my tank got built that fast... but I got mine today too! :D Your sump looks very well done. It's coming along nicely.

[peter1]

Good plans, good job and great ideas!
I send a mail for your question.
Good luck,

Peter

This is the thread:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1434493&highlight=diy+lumenarc+reflector&page=2

[syedjilani]

Looks good... I wish my tank got built that fast... but I got mine today too! :D Your sump looks very well done. It's coming along nicely.

Thanks Greenmaster. we are on the same boat.......

[syedjilani]

Good plans, good job and great ideas!
I send a mail for your question.
Good luck,

Peter



Thanks a lot peter1. Thanks for the e-mail, but it's little late. I solved my problem, Pendent are already made three days before. I will post update shot.

Thanks again.

Stay tuned... I will need more suggestions from you guys....:thumbsup:

[syedjilani]

Good thing you have a very well designed aquarium stand. The sump will fit in easily. Some stand designs don't allow for easy installation and removal if something goes wrong.

Keep up the good work.

Thanks mr.wilson,

Yes of course, from the front sump cannot go inside, I made sump length 140cm to insert from the left side of the stand. Shortly you will see the shot sump is on it’s place.
Stay tuned and always post your valuable suggestions.

[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Protien skimmer in the Sump for testing ....

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[syedjilani]

UPDATE

They are cutting styrofoam, preparing stand to place tank on it.....:worried:

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[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Tank on stand.....:worried:....

Its look gr8....:dance: filled test water.... no worries.........:dance:

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[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Sump inside.... :dance:

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[syedjilani]

So, next is plumbing.....

Stay tune....:thumbsup:

[salali]

Great Job want to see you tank after you get done.

From where can you buy corals and fish in Saudi Arabia?

[maroun.c]

Looking good.
Got me more tempted in assembling my sump mself...
Waht is this skimmer rated for? I was told that my reefoctopus Hurricone Cat 1 won't eb enough for my 340 and might sell it and upgrade to one of the Super skimmer 500 Series with Bubble blaster. are yo usure this skimmer cna handle your tank.

[kylesmoney]

Nice clean looking set up so far. Looks great!

[mr.wilson]

UPDATE

Sump inside.... :dance:

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I see you changed the stand design. The right side was supposed to have a slide out base for the sump like in the drawing. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=17114004&postcount=6 Now you have the slide out frame on the left with rigid/permanent panels on top of it and the sump on the right (wrong side). Am I missing something?

[syedjilani]

Great Job want to see you tank after you get done.

From where can you buy corals and fish in Saudi Arabia?


Thanks salali.

We have two shops where we can buy corals and fishes.

[syedjilani]

Looking good.
Got me more tempted in assembling my sump mself...
Waht is this skimmer rated for? I was told that my reefoctopus Hurricone Cat 1 won't eb enough for my 340 and might sell it and upgrade to one of the Super skimmer 500 Series with Bubble blaster. are yo usure this skimmer cna handle your tank.

I am using Reef Octopus DNWB-200 Recirculating Protein Skimmer. People who told you as what you said, do that have bad result from Hurricone CAT-1Internal Protein Skimmer? Of course Supper skimmer 5000 Series with Bubble blaster is better than Hurricone Cat-1, but if you already bought it, then better to use, i am sure that you can have optimal result with this toy according what manufacturer clamed.

Reef Octopus DNWB-200 Recirculating Protein Skimmer is best for 300 Gallon, hope it will handle the bio load of tank.
:)

[syedjilani]

Nice clean looking set up so far. Looks great!

Thank you kylesmoney.

Stay tuned ..... a lot more update is on the way....;)

[syedjilani]

I see you changed the stand design. The right side was supposed to have a slide out base for the sump like in the drawing.

Now you have the slide out frame on the left with rigid/permanent panels on top of it and the sump on the right (wrong side). Am I missing something?

Yes, what you noted exactly right, from initially i postpone to have slide design. In the future if I made slide for the sump I will change little sitting of plumbing and the placement of sump.

[skidrow52]

Congratulations Syed on your new project, looks wonderful I went through all your posts today, waiting to see it Live now :)

[syedjilani]

Congratulations Syed on your new project, looks wonderful I went through all your posts today, waiting to see it Live now :)

Thanks skidrow52,
Well Come board.

I am very much happy that I am able to know more reefers in kingdom through this forum.

Special thanks to Reef Central and all who spend their time to read my thread, appreciate it and posting their valuable suggestion…..:)

Stay tuned a lot more is on the way. :thumbsup:

[syedjilani]

UPDATE

PLUMBING

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[syedjilani]

UPDATE

I keep all plumbing in bathtub for one night to wash out the smell of PVC cement.

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[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Plumbing washed out two nights in fresh water, and on it's place. filling first test water in sump.:(

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[Greenmaster]

UPDATE

Plumbing washed out two nights in fresh water, and on it's place. filling first test water in sump.:(

Right on... why are you sad about it? or did you just do the wrong button :D

[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Thrill in love story..... :beer:

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Everything is working properly. no leakage at all.....:beer:

[Greenmaster]

YAY! it's looks even better with water running through it! Can't wait to see some rocks and sand.

[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Some more of Sump in progress.

Right Side
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Left side
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Return Pump
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[syedjilani]

UPDATE

I don't think that I will need more circulation pumps inside the tank. Return pump has very strong flow. it just need to use some Modular Pipe - Lockline to divert the flow.

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Overflow box.
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[Greenmaster]

... The bubbles in the pump tank doesn't look good... that last part just before the pump is supposed to be a bubble wall... you seem to have really high flow from the one side and not much to the other... do you have a plan to fix the bubbles?

[syedjilani]

Right on... why are you sad about it? or did you just do the wrong button :D

No, I press the right button, I am sad .. :sad1: . because of fresh water. I need more patience until it fill with Salty.

[syedjilani]

... The bubbles in the pump tank doesn't look good... that last part just before the pump is supposed to be a bubble wall... you seem to have really high flow from the one side and not much to the other... do you have a plan to fix the bubbles?

Yes, of course, there will be no bubble at all in whole system except what protein skimmer creates.

I have already planned to kill the bubbles wherever it will appear. :uzi: . . :hammer:

Stay tuned, you will see no single bubble in whole system except inside the skimmer.

[Mounda]

I am using Reef Octopus DNWB-200 Recirculating Protein Skimmer. People who told you as what you said, do that have bad result from Hurricone CAT-1Internal Protein Skimmer? Of course Supper skimmer 5000 Series with Bubble blaster is better than Hurricone Cat-1, but if you already bought it, then better to use, i am sure that you can have optimal result with this toy according what manufacturer clamed.

Reef Octopus DNWB-200 Recirculating Protein Skimmer is best for 300 Gallon, hope it will handle the bio load of tank.
:)

The DNWB-200 is a pretty small skimmer for a 300gallon tank however since people have been getting away with skimmerless tanks I guess only time will tell how good it will perform on your tank. You have been able to run a large tank on a Weipro so in comparison your new Octopus will work wonders :)

The hurricone is the same build but with a laguna askoll pump on it opposed to the bubble blaster. I think the huricone will be ok on that size Maroun, the new XP series with bubble blasters are pretty cool though, got one myself and loving it.

Syed, what kind of return pump are you running and what is the output ? You might need a couple of powerheads at the ends to eliminate dead spots and create a wide flow. Loc-lines nozzles provide a more linear flow compared to the powerheads such as tunze, vortechs or koralias.

[mr.wilson]

From my experience, lockline can leak and cavitate (suck air in a venturi fashion) when used above the water level. Also make sure that you have a siphon break hole(s) so that your deeper nozzle in the tank doesn'y back siphon when the pump is shut off. I like flare nozzles for distribution across the surface.

Are you sure your sump is big enough to hold all the water that overflows and drains from the pipes when the return pump is off. Even the skimmer shutting off raises the water level in the sump when a bit as it drains.

I assume your drain is a siphon & gravity (vented standpipe) overflow?

[syedjilani]

From my experience, lockline can leak and cavitate (suck air in a venturi fashion) when used above the water level. Also make sure that you have a siphon break hole(s) so that your deeper nozzle in the tank doesn'y back siphon when the pump is shut off. I like flare nozzles for distribution across the surface.

Are you sure your sump is big enough to hold all the water that overflows and drains from the pipes when the return pump is off. Even the skimmer shutting off raises the water level in the sump when a bit as it drains.

I assume your drain is a siphon & gravity (vented standpipe) overflow?

Good information, I have never used lockline and flare nozzzles, so no experience of what it actually does. I will see what will suitable to divert flow from return. I also like flare nozzles, because of shape and I think it can through water longer than other stuff. Any suggestion?

I made single hole in both returns for break siphon.

I checked sump backup capacity, it has much more capacity once all the pumps (Return and skimmer) off.

Initially my plan to use Herbie super silent drain system, but I will change vented standpipes with HGB (Hofer Gurgle Buster) In overflow.

[zaheda]

Looking good, just needs some fine tuning. If you going to replace the skimmer rather go for Bekkett skimmer, they good.

[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Splash was a problem in overflow boxes. I made little addition of 2mm thickness glass to reduce splash and noise of water falling. See the photo taken before made little changes. Instead of water falling and make noise, now it smoothly slide down without any splash and noise..
Overflow before thin glass

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Overflow After thin glass

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Over flow After thin Glass water sliding

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[syedjilani]

Looking good, just needs some fine tuning. If you going to replace the skimmer rather go for Bekkett skimmer, they good.

Thanks zaheda,

Of course, I will use Reef octopus DNWB200 skimmer. I don’t think so that I need to replace it with something else, I always say that success is not in expensive equipments; one should know what he is doing........

You are right just need little tuning.

Stay tuned, you will see the result come out from skimmer.... lol...

[syedjilani]

The DNWB-200 is a pretty small skimmer for a 300gallon tank however since people have been getting away with skimmerless tanks I guess only time will tell how good it will perform on your tank. You have been able to run a large tank on a Weipro so in comparison your new Octopus will work wonders :)

The hurricone is the same build but with a laguna askoll pump on it opposed to the bubble blaster. I think the huricone will be ok on that size Maroun, the new XP series with bubble blasters are pretty cool though, got one myself and loving it.

Syed, what kind of return pump are you running and what is the output ? You might need a couple of powerheads at the ends to eliminate dead spots and create a wide flow. Loc-lines nozzles provide a more linear flow compared to the powerheads such as tunze, vortechs or koralias.


Pretty small mean small in capacity or small in size….:lol:

Manufacturer recommendation for DNWB 200 skimmer is 300G with heavy load. If I do not consider manufacturer what he is claiming, than I will not able to finalize to buy anything for 300g.
As I mentioned earlier that when I was using weipro with successful result how will not be able to get good result from RO.

Just stay tuned, you will see what will come out from Reef octopus.

Atman MP 8500 is for return. Again, I bought it because I trust what manufacturer claim, 8650L/H at the height of 5.8 meters. Which is 7.3 times of total volume, I think this is more the enough.

I agree with you to get good circulation of flow at each spot, need power heads. Planned to buy 2 VorTech MP40w ES Propeller Pump. Hope it will full enough for time being.

[syedjilani]

Some new addition. I love Red Star.

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[syedjilani]

People, who bought Reef octopus and getting miss conception about rating and product, please go through this thread, useful information.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1638272&highlight=reef+octopus+dnwb

or direct e-mail to CoralVue at support@coralvue.com.

[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Time to be salty.

NSW (Natural Sea Water) arrived . . :dance: .. . I got couple of 20 liters Bottles, to get water from Sea.

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576 liters Natural sea Water is here. :beer:

[syedjilani]

UPDATE

In the same time, I made 120 gallon tank water changes with 15gallon and put this 15 gallon in my new tank .

Old water from 120G Tank.

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[shullat]

Some new addition. I love Red Star.

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Nice creepy crawly... sorry about yesterday obviously i passed out again... up till 6 a.m. after that in pain... ouch.

[syedjilani]

UPDATE

It is really pain to fill this new monster with (NSW). I had choice to use syntactic salt, which is not bad, but I am doing the same what I have done in last three years.

152 Gallon filled. I have to fill this maximum by today evening.

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[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Some rocks, which is already cured in existing sump, put it in the tank.

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[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Since tank is not fill until overflow, and no water in Sump, so no circulation and protein skimmer is working now.

For safe side I put both sides small power heads attached with air intake for oxygen and for little circulation.

Hope NES will not lose it optimal condition, as there is no protein skimmer and circulation in the tank.


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[Greenmaster]

Looks good, Bet you wish you lived right on the ocean.

[syedjilani]

Looks good, Bet you wish you lived right on the ocean.

Thanks Greenmaster,

I wish, what you said, it happens in real one day.:rolleyes:

[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Salinity 38ppt - Specific Gravity 1.028+

To reduce untill 1.026 i have to fill my sump with RO/DI water......:lol:

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[syedjilani]

UPDATE

Tank Filled by yesterday. I put some more cured live rock. Since there is no substrate at the bottom, I can see small creature is finding their food on the bottom glass and swimming around. I am sure this is an indication that the water is still healthy. Everything is going fine; otherwise, all the creature may die.

An Accident:

I felt that I am strong enough :artist: and will able to place sump inside the stand, while I was trying to be strong and tried to put sump inside the stand it hit the corner of bottom glass of sump to floor and a piece of glass came out. . :hmm2: . . :furious:… , i called the guy who made the sump, confirm him to fix the problem as soon as possible.

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Immediately called the factory and ordered new 10mm Glass instead of 8mm thickness, I arrange new bottom glass and picked the guy at the night to open the entire sump and replace the bottom of sump with new glass. … :cool:…

It took four hours but at last, we ended up with new another sump early in the morning.:fun4:

With the help of that guy I placed the sump inside the stand and filled fresh water and start circulation (inside the sump only). Isn’t it funny tank is full of Salt water and sump is full of fresh water.

[Greenmaster]

Wow if I chipped my tank it would be 2-4 weeks to get a repair/replacement... where is the pic of the life in your tank :D

[syedjilani]

UPDATE

New Sump dried up, broken 8mm thickness bottom replace with 10mm glass. water tested for almost two days. (sorry for bad quality pics)

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Now every thing is ready for completely fill with salt water.