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rennne39
06/24/2010, 11:02 PM
First are bristleworms suppose to get this big and if they are a danger this big
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg100/PASWED/IMG_2381.jpg

Second I have had this calm about 4 days and he keeps turning on his side I have him on the bottom of the tank. Can someone tell me why he keeps turning on his side?
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg100/PASWED/IMG_2383.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg100/PASWED/IMG_2373.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg100/PASWED/IMG_2372.jpg

Third I have coral and top part of it opens up and the ones on the bottom or sides will not open can someone tell me what to do ?
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg100/PASWED/IMG_2387.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg100/PASWED/IMG_2386.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg100/PASWED/IMG_2385.jpg

ludnix
06/24/2010, 11:55 PM
Bristle worms should be fine, Clams often roll over when closing rapidly, I would just put a small rock rubble next to it to keep it upright. The smaller heads on the coral might not be getting enough light if there isn't something physically irritating them. If you've had the coral a long time and it's been doing this for a while you may consider fragging some of the heads to relocate them to a brighter spot.

kaimarkhirst
06/25/2010, 03:28 AM
firstly, the clam. Ive noticed that youve got it on an oyster shell which is good, but to guarantee the safety of the clam id use aquatic epoxy to stick it down and ensure its safety from any polycheat worms that you may or may not have, also bristleworms have been known to eat clams from th inside out, but can bore into shell such as the oyster shell its placed on. D and D do a good epoxy and would urge you to use it.....

Next, the coral...

Thats a flower coral and is huge!!! Lovely specimen but it has overgrown slightly and some of the polyps are not getting enough light. Either frag it or get somebody to do this and this should sort this out....

Finally, the worms.. They can be a pain in that quantity and that size simply because they can rip open anemon bases to get at its stomach, can bore into calcarious coral skeletons causing damage as they spread. Taking them out is a problem as you end up demolishing your tank however, generally they arent a problem given enough food, but will replicate if well kept. Catch 22.... What i have to counteract these are couple of sea slugs that eat these worms... And a hawkfish that nips at them when they are visible....

Hope this helps

Kai

Cozmo4
06/25/2010, 04:40 AM
firstly, the clam. Ive noticed that youve got it on an oyster shell which is good, but to guarantee the safety of the clam id use aquatic epoxy to stick it down and ensure its safety from any polycheat worms that you may or may not have, also bristleworms have been known to eat clams from th inside out, but can bore into shell such as the oyster shell its placed on. D and D do a good epoxy and would urge you to use it.....

Next, the coral...

Thats a flower coral and is huge!!! Lovely specimen but it has overgrown slightly and some of the polyps are not getting enough light. Either frag it or get somebody to do this and this should sort this out....

Finally, the worms.. They can be a pain in that quantity and that size simply because they can rip open anemon bases to get at its stomach, can bore into calcarious coral skeletons causing damage as they spread. Taking them out is a problem as you end up demolishing your tank however, generally they arent a problem given enough food, but will replicate if well kept. Catch 22.... What i have to counteract these are couple of sea slugs that eat these worms... And a hawkfish that nips at them when they are visible....

Hope this helps

Kai

:confused: Sorry for disagreeing with this given that it's your first post, but I think there's some bad advice here that should be corrected.

- First, never epoxy or glue a clam. If they are in a spot they like, they will attach with their foot on their own. Using epoxy can interfere with it's natural ability to open and close and will force it into a location that may force it into its ultimate demise. If a clam isn't happy where it is, you want to allow it to push itself off and you can then try another location. Frequently they won't attach and will push themselves off of a location where there's too much flow.

- Bristle worms will not eat a healthy clam or anemone. They are a safe and desirable member of a clean-up crew. You may be talking about other types of worms that are rarely seen in our tanks, but not bristle worms.

- It's not a flower coral - it's a Euphyllia of some type. Tough to tell from the picture, but it looks like a frogspawn. A flower coral is what some people call Acropa cervicornis (sp?). OP: Are the heads that aren't opening new, as in recently split off from older heads? If so, they may just be smaller and will grow and expand more in time. If they are established heads, it could be a flow issue. Frogspawn likes medium flow. If the flow is too strong, the polyps will retract some. I've seen this with all Euphyllia. BTW, have you seen these in the wild? It hasn't overgrown. It's a fraction of the size that you typically see these in the wild. OP: Frag if you wish, but the size of the coral is not the cause of the issue.

rennne39
06/25/2010, 06:43 AM
it is something the frogspawn just started those head use to open all the time I dont know why will try to move the flow and see what happens

Cozmo4
06/25/2010, 12:58 PM
Do you see and vermitid snails around the base of the frog? These can irritate it and keep it from fully expanding. Can you get a closer picture?