STARS club logo

[strayvoltage]

If any of you fine people out there have any ideas on something you would like to see used for a club logo please post a drawing or pic of it or them here. I know Jaymait had a person working on something a while back and Ryan has some good ideas. This is open for one and all to help out with.
Thanks.

[ryan_paskadi]

Work has been slow so I had some time to make some logos. These are just black and white but can be printed in any color. Fonts, Colors, and artwork can be moved and tweaked. Please if you like these or have any ideas on how to make them better, I am all ears.

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee166/ryam_paskadi/stars.png

[jmait769]

Those look good Ryan!!! I like the lower right one the best! :) I would change the periods to stars like the one to left of it.

Jay

[nmnative]

I have to agree with Jay, I like the one in the lower left as well. Very nice work Ryan!

[The Juggernaut]

how about a starfish?? i don't know anything about designs but you could play with that don't you think?

[strayvoltage]

I like both the lower right and left. I like the way the STARS curves in the lower left one and the way the words fit under it better than the other one to the right. JMO they are both nice. Good work Ryan, thanks.

[Jay508]

Those are pretty cool. I agree with everyone else, lower right looks best but maybe use the fonts from lower left.

Thanks for the ideas Ryan. In the long run I think there will be many STARS logos so keep the images coming everyone...

[ryan_paskadi]

Thanks for all the input. I will make some new logos incorporating your ideas.

[strayvoltage]

Hey Jay I guess I don't see a point in having more than one STARS logo. If we set something up and stick with it then that is what becomes known as STARS and people are not cornfused everytime they see a different logo. JMO like always am willing to learn your thoughts my friend. I sure wish you would come take me golfing.

[Jay508]

Well my theory is different logos work for different things. Banners for example may contain elaborate multi color logos, logos for t-shirts may look different for logos for embroidered shirts, business cards, stickers, etc..

Also I have been in contact with a web developer from NMSU that took an interest in the tank and sought me out. I directed him to the club site and explained it is a works in progress. He displayed an interest in helping us develop the website further. In fact I just received another email today that said if we give him the go he will help us out and is anxious to do it. So maybe if we can hash out one of Ryan's logos here pretty quick I can work with Stephen to get us a nice looking site started.

Let me know what you guys think.

John- when I get back, we golf.....

[strayvoltage]

Jay, when you say a nice looking site I wonder what that means and what it will have on it. I think we already have a nice looking site going, not going to say it couldn't use some work but it is ok for a start. And we all very much than Daniel for all the work that he has put into it.

[Jay508]

Im not saying we don't and yes Daniel has done quite a bit for us and getting the site started, Im not discrediting him for that or anyone for that matter. I and others, including yourself, have showed an interest in developing the site further and making links and tabs to make everything more user friendly. We also need to make things easy, and assign a person, to keep the site updated with current club info. I am just trying to make these things happen and someone has offered their services. Just putting it out there.

[nmnative]

Ok, here is my two cents....I believe that we should have one main logo for the club. I agree that banners and other items would benefit from additional graphics and colors, but I think the main logo should be present at least. As for the website, I have received the email from Daniel containing the website file. Specific software is required just to open the file and of course they cost money. I am downloading a free trial of Corel Draw Graphics Suite XS, but I'm not even sure if I will be able to open the file from Daniel.

If I can get the file open, I would be delighted to have some help from someone like Jay's friend to work on getting the site updated. If this works out, this will be a temporary solution to updating the website and I agree that we need one person with the software/website knowledge and a back ground in the club/reef keeping to keep the site updated in the future.

[psuedopimp]

i think one standard logo that looks good black and white, embroidered, or what ever, but also could be colored to suit a fancy banner. not two logo's, just one that is black and white and one that is colored.

[ryan_paskadi]

Alright I did some different treatments based on your suggestions and I tried some color logos.
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee166/ryam_paskadi/Stars-2-1.png

[ryan_paskadi]

Please if you want to see any other color combinations let me know. If you have any ideas let me know. I have a thick skin and it is more beneficial for you to all say what you want then it is to spare my feelings.

My Votes are #1 for Black and white and #6 and #14 for Color.

Also, I believe you want one logo. You stick with one to create brand recognition. If you are doing a banner or a website you put the logo on it but small and supplement the graphics with pictures and design.

[Jay508]

Well, if we would like the help all we need to give stephen is FTP username and password (I'm not really sure what that is but maybe Daniel can help me), he said that is all he needs to work on the site.

Ryan- I think the graphics are perfect, maybe if you could email me the files in PDF format JPEG or whichever I can pass them on.

Attached is a link to website of a sample of Stephen's work for the Feral cat management program on campus. There is lots of links, places to sign up for more information, etc. I think this will be very beneficial to the club.


http://www.nmsu.edu/~fcamp/

I have also encouraged Stephen to join reefcentral and come to boards and check out our club.

jay

[thecoralreef915]

Im not saying we don't and yes Daniel has done quite a bit for us and getting the site started, Im not discrediting him for that or anyone for that matter. I and others, including yourself, have showed an interest in developing the site further and making links and tabs to make everything more user friendly. We also need to make things easy, and assign a person, to keep the site updated with current club info. I am just trying to make these things happen and someone has offered their services. Just putting it out there.
In regards to the web site , getting started is always the hard part typically after something is started evolution begins and that is where the real work starts , the web site that is up today is simply a space which gives the club visibility in the "virtual world' it was done using Microsoft Office Publishing and put together in about 30 minutes (in other words not much of a web site) but nonetheless it gives us web presence, I for one would endorse Jay's suggestion in regards to putting the site on the hands of a true web developer so that we can 'evolve' the site without having to learn how to do it, although it might be fun learning how to build the site it will require some time to be invested in it.

Audry the file opens with Microsoft Publishing.

[thecoralreef915]

Well, if we would like the help all we need to give stephen is FTP username and password (I'm not really sure what that is but maybe Daniel can help me), he said that is all he needs to work on the site.

Ryan- I think the graphics are perfect, maybe if you could email me the files in PDF format JPEG or whichever I can pass them on.

Attached is a link to website of a sample of Stephen's work for the Feral cat management program on campus. There is lots of links, places to sign up for more information, etc. I think this will be very beneficial to the club.


http://www.nmsu.edu/~fcamp/

I have also encouraged Stephen to join reefcentral and come to boards and check out our club.

jay

FTP stands for File Transfer Protocol , Ill have my IT folks create an account for Stephen and PM the user and password as soon as it is done

[Jay508]

Cool thanks Daniel, you are way more tech saavy than I....

I applaud you for that!

[ryan_paskadi]

Jay, if everyone can decide on a final logo I would be happy to send you high resolution .PDF, .ai, .eps, and .tif files.

[nmnative]

FTP stands for File Transfer Protocol , Ill have my IT folks create an account for Stephen and PM the user and password as soon as it is done

This is great, but who is the one that is going to provide the club specific information that is needed for the site? It makes sense to me that Stephen should be in direct contact with a STARS member while he is making changes to the site. Jay, is that going to be you?

[Jay508]

This is great, but who is the one that is going to provide the club specific information that is needed for the site? It makes sense to me that Stephen should be in direct contact with a STARS member while he is making changes to the site. Jay, is that going to be you?

Yes, I will take this on.

As Stephen has an interest in Reefkeeping, I am trying to recruit him as a member. I also think that once the website is further established it can be updated by just about anyone. The design is the part that I know nothing about.

[jmait769]

http://www.nmsu.edu/~fcamp/

I have also encouraged Stephen to join reefcentral and come to boards and check out our club.

jay

Jay – I really like the look and function of that website! If Stephan can help with ours that would be great. Honestly I just went to ours as I write this and Daniel, the website does look good!! You have done a great job. :thumbsup:

I did not bookmark our site (shame on me!!:crazy1:) so took some digging to get the address. Recommend we add that to the end of our name here on RC like OMAS has which is listed directly above us in the SouthWest Region-Reef Club Forums (http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=537) page. If they add that maybe they could also add parentheses () around the STARS at the end of the name like the other clubs. Or maybe just add a sticky (which would be our first!!) to our forum. Just some thoughts!

Also, Ryan, great job on the logos!! I too liked #1 and #6. One suggestion is to maybe add the STARS website address under our name?

Jay

[Jay508]

I too have had the same concerns about the lack of parenthesis in our title and also the fact that our website address is not a link like the other clubs. Our mini mission does say to visit us at the website, however the address is not a link rather it is just text. I think we should work on changing this.

[jmait769]

Our mini mission does say to visit us at the website, however the address is not a link rather it is just text. I must have beer goggles on too as I completely missed the address in the text!!!

Jay

[Jay508]

I guess we have more than a name in common!!

that is my point, the address does not stand out so I think we should contact RC about making it a link rather than just text.

[Jay508]

Oh yea and for the logo I vote #1 and #6 also. 6 is pretty cool looking with the two tone background.

Great job Ryan on the graphics. I love the native pin-striping on the tang, creative!

[ryan_paskadi]

Here are the final renditions. Jay pm me your emial and I can send you a copy. As long as work is slow I would be happy to work on any other design projects the club needs done. Just let me know soon before business picks up.

As for the colors I am still split on which I like better. I like the earthtone one because it is symbolic of nature and the southwest. I also like the blue/orange one becuase it pops. Which ever you like I have done them in spot colors and you can consider those colors part of the brand. They can be used in the website or any club advertising.


http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee166/ryam_paskadi/StarsLogoFinal.jpg

[psuedopimp]

i like both colored ones also, but the earth toned one seems more complete, or subtle. whereas the orange one seems like a color is missing from the starfish or something, i just can't pinpoint it. i really like the faded black background on the second one.

[strayvoltage]

jay508, I think maybe you have not been to the website as of late, it does have working links and the things you mention, not that it is a big deal if you have seen it or not. I am game for allowing some one else to work on it as long as Daniel is, as it was his baby. From what Daniel has to say I see he is okay with exactly that. I would like to ask, what is this work going to cost the club to have done?

I think it is important to get a logo for the club and couldn't agree more about having only one logo, it can be a black and white one and then one that has a set color to it.
When you use it on something that you want to fancy up, you fancy the item up not the logo and you don't use a different logo for different application. This is all JMO and as we all know I am good at giving my JMO lol

Maybe we need a second logo and I think it can be a rooster. LOL Jay you do know I am teasing you of course.

Do we really want the few of us that are taking part in this thread to pick a logo or do we want to take it to a meeting and bring it up and have a vote on it so more people have a say about it? I think we can do it either way, because all the people or at least the biggest % of people that attend meetings also come here and read these threads. If they read it and don't say anything then they really probably didn't care one way or the other.

Ryan, please allow me to thank you for the time and effort you have put into this. I did leave it open for anyone who wanted to give it a shot to do so but we have nothing else yet.

I hope to hear from all of you as to if you want to vote this here or hold it at meeting. As President I think I can make the call to do it here if that is what the majority wants. I could be all full of it too and can't do that. Wait let me ask our treasurer, he will know. Hey Justin Mr. Treasurer, can I or we do it like this?

Okay now it is official as soon as Mr. Treasurer answers Mr. President and tells him if he can do it like this, we will all ignore him if the says we can't and do it anyhow. We will call this one of them behind closed doors on the open public forum kind of special meetings that is talked about in the STARS bylaws. For any of you that didn't know we had that in the bylaws, go to www.starsreefclub.com and re-read the bylaws and you will find it some place under special meetings.

Seriously I think in the best interest of the club we do pick a logo here and we submit it to Jay and if we are all in agreement to allow some other person to work on the website then we allow that to happen as well.
I do think the person that works on the website does need to be in contact with an officer of the club and be kept informed as to what we want on the site. I feel like if that person can be in contact with Audrey it would help a great deal, she after all is the secretary and does take the minutes and has the meeting "rooster" (well really I have the drain bamaged meeting rooster here with me at my house) but we all know Madam Secretary does her part and I feel like she needs and should be kept in the loop when it comes to what is going to be updated on the website in these areas.


Wow did I really write all of that?

[deehz]

I think that the logo IMHO represents the club. When new or old members see it, they recognize the logo instantly w/o having to know the name. It speaks for itself. It should be kept simple, one logo and not multiple ones. At least this is JMO.

I like the work that Ryan put forth. :thumbsup: I like both of the colored logos; either one would represent the club very well. The banners for the club would look fantastic. In reality if a logo was put to a vote, the vote should be one of the logos that Ryan presented then put to a vote the original STARS logo on the website (great logo by the way) and Ryans.

[strayvoltage]

thanks for the input deehz. if another member put something up for a logo we would give it a look and see what everyone thought about it, but right now we have the ones Ryan posted andI am liking them. I had something different going on and totally different. I liked what I had but they were just quick ones and never anything complete. I wil still have to agree a logo should be only one and that is it. We don't nee ddifferent logos for different applications.

[Jay508]

Well if we can come to terms here we should do it so that we can get the ball rolling.

In all actuality, what is being said here is that we all (at least those that have chimed in) like Ryan's logo. It really doesn't matter what color it is as what I am reading into these posts is that the logo can be colored to fit any application we need. I think the logo is great and sure I understand everyone's point about keeping one logo (KISS). So I would like to adopt the logo and move forward if no one opposes.

[deehz]

Hey Mr. John and Jay,

I like the logos that Ryan put forth as well. He did a fantastic job on them and the time he took to make them. Many thanks to him. Not saying that the original logo on the web site is bad, it is just that either logo would represent the club great. And if another member decides to submit another logo, maybe put in a time frame of when logo's can be submitted? Then put a couple of them for a vote here on the forum or at the July/August meeting?

[ryan_paskadi]

Thank you for the nice comments. I'm glad you guys like the logo. I think it turned out well.

I think the officers should take everyones comments into consideration and then make an executive decision together. Its quicker and its the point of having officers in the first place.

Personally I think when you incorporate color into a logo those colors are as much a part of the identity of the brand as the logo. I really do not think you should have more than one color logo.

Go to the homedepot website. You will see that the orange in the logo is used throughout the website. Could you imagine seeing that logo in blue? It wouldnt work.

I like the brown logo best and think that the solid black logo would be good for 1-color printing options. It can be black against a light background or white against a dark background.

[Jay508]

Ok, good points and I agree. I too like the brown logo and solid black logo.

Fellow officers, can I make a motion here to adopt Ryan's brown logo for a two color graphic and the black logo for a one color graphic?

[strayvoltage]

Ryan, how is the text going to work for printing cards and the such? The way you have it in three rows and also the website below it seems like it may end up having to be pretty small. I think it may work better the way you had the text at first as single line and then have the website under it. Can you put it to scale and see how it would fit on say the size of a business card. Of course the logo can be bigger or smaller to fit whatever it is put on but if the text won't fit some applications, it is going to end up being used different ways for different things. So that is the same as having two or more different logos rather than one. To me I think it should be kept the same way everytime.

The brown is ok but the blue is like water.

Jay I think we can make this happen here and get it in the works and not have to wait until the meeting to do it. We can at anytime have a meeting by phone if called for. I see no reason we can't do the same here.

Ryan it is true we do have officers for things like this, but I still stick very much to what I have said from the start of STARS when I first contacted the people who are now the other officers and asked them to meet with me to make STARS and that is that, I want it to be as much member run as possible and that all members should have a say in all matters if they want to. I believe that anybody that wants a say in this matter has the chance to have it here and we can go ahead and make this happen. I say this knowing that all the members come here for the most part and do read these threads.

:beer: :wave:
Thanks

[jmait769]

I vote for the brown logo and solid black logo too!!

Jay

[psuedopimp]

i second the motion.


i believe in our bylaws it states that this is the main form of communication. if we proceed like an official meeting i see no prob with voting here. now that a motion is presented and seconded, i will also call question and ask to go straight to vote, based on the fact that we have already discussed this.

so now John can repost the motion with the two options, and call for vote and the only posts after this shall be only yay or nay. to make sure all votes are counted

the only problem i have is how long to proceed with voting 2 days? state that in the post with the motion so everyone will know and i think we will be good.

[strayvoltage]

It has Been moved and seconded that, STARS adopt and use the black background and the brown colored logo's created for STARS by Ryan Paskadi. Last question has been called by Justin, under last question there will be no further discussion of the matter. All in favor of adopting and using these logos say Yay, any opposed, say Nay. The voting for this will end, Wednesday, July, 07, 2010 at 10 AM.

[TimGentry]

Yay

[psuedopimp]

yay

[ryan_paskadi]

Yay

[deehz]

Yay

[Jay508]

Yay

[strayvoltage]

Motion carries. STARS will use the two mentioned logo's for any and all advertising. These will be the official logo for STARS . Thanks for the interest on this matter, we now have an official logo.