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Flyboy450r
08/01/2010, 03:13 PM
Hi Iím pretty new to the hobby but I just received some live rock from a online dealer and I opened the box and found a little ping pong ball sized octopus. I believe it to be a dwarf but am not sure. Iím needing a little advice my tank just got done cycling so its not establish to well and Iím very new to salt water tanks. I have a 29 gallon acrylic tank with a 10 gallon sump, skimmer, and power heads so lots of flow. Any suggestions. Would to much flow be a issue? What temp do they prefer. How about salinity. How much room do they need. I have 45 pounds of live rock as of now with a dsb. How much light is ok. I know they are night time animals? So lots of questions any help would be appreciated. I do have a tightly sealed aquarium so I think it wont escape.

bluesub
08/01/2010, 04:04 PM
How lucky! You should go to Tonmo.com and look at their articles for some more information. Octopus are very sensitive to water conditions, so you are going to have to keep an eye on your ammonia, nitrate and nitrites. They prefer live food like shrimp and crabs, although some octopus will take raw seafood.

Arizonah13
08/01/2010, 06:11 PM
+1 on TONMO - they definitely know there stuff over there! Personally, since your tank is so new, and because of how sensitive cephs are, combined with the fact that you most likely wouldn't be able to keep any other fish or inverts with him, AND because they are escape artists.... I'd suggest seeing if anyone you know WANTS one and can take him or else take him to a very reputable LFS.

Just my opinion.

Or just ask the folks at TONMO - they'll know what to do. :)

Flyboy450r
08/01/2010, 06:49 PM
I agree with you guys. Id love to keep him and after playing around with him for a while Im a new found fan of them but for the time being Im going to tank him to my local fs. I need to get my tank established and do some more reading up before I take one on. My ignorance is not fair to the octopus. I dont mind single animals I keep piranha to and love the aggressive and more difficult fish but I like to do things the right way. But in other words im starting to build my tank toward keeping one some day. First question will a 29 really be big enough for a dwarf when he gets bigger.

Flyboy450r
08/01/2010, 06:51 PM
My girlfriend just dropped him by the local fs he is a mimic i guess?? Glad im not a scientist lol

ogiler
08/01/2010, 06:54 PM
It will escape.
It will die in a new tank.
It will eat other fishes shrimps etc.
It will kill you if it is a blue ringed octopus.

Flyboy450r
08/01/2010, 07:12 PM
Thats why its now at the lfs. I don't think mimics are deadly are they. But he told me he'd give me 50 so i guess it will pay for something. Thanks for all the help

ogiler
08/01/2010, 07:26 PM
mimics wont kill you but i dont think it will survive i d sell it.

bluesub
08/01/2010, 08:21 PM
Thanks for being so responsible about the octopus. I'd be pretty amazed if you had a mimic crawl out of your live rock - but $50 is a pretty good price for a hitchhiker.

flawedexistence
08/02/2010, 05:06 AM
Amazing story.....correct me if wrong, but don't octopi have very short life spans?

ogiler
08/02/2010, 05:52 AM
Yes species that we have in aquarium have 1 or 2 year life span pigme ones have a life span about 6 months.

ddeneve
08/11/2010, 09:23 PM
It will escape.
It will die in a new tank.
It will eat other fishes shrimps etc.
It will kill you if it is a blue ringed octopus.

Never knew octopuses were such bad arses

Gill_bucket
08/11/2010, 09:47 PM
Wow!!! mimics are super cool check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygh1-ul6E94

VacavilleFC3S
08/12/2010, 12:36 AM
where did you purchase the rock from?

Pylon
08/12/2010, 09:14 AM
Never knew octopuses were such bad arses

Chuck Norris is really an blue ringed octopus in disguise.

L8 2 RISE
08/14/2010, 12:29 AM
wait!? It was ping pong sized? And it had stripes so looked like a mimic?? Are you sure it wasn't an O. chierchiae? Where did the rock come from? If it is an O. chierchiae, there are a few people who would kill for it... (Thales comes to mind). Here's pics of wunderpus and mimics http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/wunderpusvsmimic.html

here's a pic of chierchiae. http://stickycricket.com/cuttle/photos/DSC_9081.jpg

Trumpetytrump
08/17/2010, 07:53 AM
Wow nice find.

blasterman789
08/19/2010, 03:15 PM
Wow!!! mimics are super cool check this out

That was cool. My favorite was the running rock-fish immitation.

It's needs to add 'BP blow-out preventor' to it's list of morphs. That will scare everything away.

Flyboy450r
08/22/2010, 06:53 PM
Hey guys just wanted to touch base. The octopus is still alive and thriving. Hes in a large tank at my lfs. I do not believe he is a mimic. He really is a blast to watch I wish I could have kept him. But just wanted to let you all know how it was going. The rock was from drs foster and smith. Thanks for all your help mike

calamityjane
12/29/2010, 09:11 PM
what species live the longest ?

nbsdsailor
12/30/2010, 12:15 AM
Totally cool Mike. The reef gods are smiling on you :)

deathy17
05/15/2011, 06:24 PM
do the except foods like silversides?

asid61
05/16/2011, 05:46 PM
Yes, but they usually have to be weaned onto frozen first, and crustaceans are what make up the bulk of their diet in the wild. Live saltwater feeder shrimp would be a better bet.

jmadden
06/05/2011, 10:47 PM
do the except foods like silversides?

When mine was really small I would hand feed it small pieces of raw shrimp. I would have to wave it in front of him to entice him to eat, just dropping the food in wouldn't work. I've got access to a limitless amount of striped shoreline crabs that he loves to hunt. Sometimes I put a crab in a small jar with a hole to small for the crab to get out of and let the octopus work the lid off to get at his meal. I feel like live food gives my octopus more enrichment .

KoralKeith
06/08/2011, 03:06 AM
Good move

asid61
06/11/2011, 11:18 PM
what species live the longest ?

Giant Pacific Octopuses and Arctic Octopuses can live six years, maybe longer.