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coolwaves
08/07/2010, 10:26 PM
there appears to be a coming surge of hulafish into the market... lots of coming soons in the stock lists. this is an interesting little fish (a handful of species) from eastern-southern australia and tasmania. they are temperate fishes, but unfortunately the major online retailers tend to list "ideal" temperatures in their care sheets that are actually far higher than ideal (one very large supplier lists 72-80F!!). you see this happen with other temperate/coldwater fishes all the time (garibaldi, catalina gobies, etc.). why even provide care sheets if they are so grossly inaccurate? are the people at these businesses that incompetent or are they actually fixing the numbers to increase sales to trusting tropical fish keepers? or am i possibly mentally unbalanced for caring about seeing this so often?

glextank
08/07/2010, 11:05 PM
I know what you mean, it bums me out everytime I see a catalina goby in a tank. Just knowing the poor things probably in there sweating his you knowwhats off makes me sad.

Grandreef 2
08/08/2010, 05:21 AM
Sorry the budge in but I'm in the progress of making a list of different fish species and their requirements (minimum tank size, temperature requirements, diet) and the cold water species are extremely hard to find info on because they are labeled as pure tropical fish. Are you guys/or do you know anybody that keeps temperate aquariums?

826 moto
08/08/2010, 07:11 AM
i know a few people i live in the Puget sound and am planing on doing one as soon a i get a chiller i have always wanted one as every thing will be free. jest have to watch the rules and get a license so you don't get in trouble

coolwaves
08/18/2010, 11:29 PM
Sorry the budge in but I'm in the progress of making a list of different fish species and their requirements (minimum tank size, temperature requirements, diet) and the cold water species are extremely hard to find info on because they are labeled as pure tropical fish. Are you guys/or do you know anybody that keeps temperate aquariums?

sorry about the late reply, try these links:
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2009/3/aquarium
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2009/4/howto
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2009/5/short
http://oregonreef.com/sub_coldwater.htm

JHemdal
08/21/2010, 10:03 AM
The Eastern hulafish does pretty well at normal/low reef aquarium temperatures (I've kept them up to 81 derees F. with no problem). The other three species are more temperate in their habits. Here is an excerpt from my Advanced Marine Aquarium Techniques book:

Eastern hulafish
Trachinops taeniatus
Maximum size: 7 cm
Habitat: Open water in front of caves in temperate and tropical reefs
Range: New South Wales, Australia.
A very peaceful, schooling species, it will accept any small meaty seafood; brine shrimp, small krill, mysid shrimp, etc. It is a perfect miniature reef fish, as it stays out in the open for much of the day and never bothers any invertebrates. Only its relatively high cost keeps this fish from being more popular with aquarists.

Jay Hemdal

skibum9884
08/27/2010, 09:56 AM
Seems they're somewhat similar to firefish. Are they jumpers as well? They certainly look like it, and swimming at a 45 degree angle (head up) seems like it would increase the chances that much more.